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posted June 29, 2013 09:45 AM            

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Well theres this girl I was into about 6 months ago. we really liked each other, and we went on a few dates and I eventually had her over my house. She came over and, although we didn't have sex (or anything much really) we just made out and it was super intense. It was very hard for her to get to even this step. Then she just all of a sudden kinda walks out of my life, I can tell she still has feelings for me and I still have feelings for her. The reason she uses is that she is super religious and I am not, and I don't want to wait till I'm married to have sex with her. I believe that if there's love in the relationship than it needs to be expressed sexually. Anyways, this is a question for all you guys and girls out there. Should I start talking to her again? I already texted her last night and said "Hi. I miss you! lets get together soon." and her response was "We will go on an adventure " heres the synastry.
Her:
Sun-Scorpio
Moon-Scorpio
Venus-Scorpio
Mercury-Scorpio
Mars-Saggitarius
Jupiter-Scorpio
Saturn-Aquarius
Uranus-Capricorn
Neptune-Capricorn
Pluto-Scorpio

Me:
Sun-Aries
Moon-Pisces
Venus-Pisces
Mercury-Aries
Mars-Pisces
Jupiter-Virgo
Saturn-Aquarius
Uranus-Capricorn
Neptune-Capricorn
Pluto-Scorpio

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Sun Aries Moon Pisces
Mars Pisces Venus Pisces
Mercury Aries Jupiter in Virgo
Saturn in Aquarius Pluto in Scorpio
Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn
Ascendant Libra

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posted June 29, 2013 10:20 AM            

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Well I see the attraction (lots of square and trine). I've never seen a natal so strong in Scorpio though. Being that it is, and its sexually fixed Scorpio, she's not likely to change her views on sex or marriage. Since she relates marriage to religion and scorp takes the occult/religious matters very seriously. I really don't think it will change. So you'll have to decide if you can live with that.

I understand your views, and I understand her being rational in the sense that the two of you don't share them in common. If I wasn't thinking about it astrologically, I would just see what her views are on sex without intercourse. And if you are willing to compramise down the road.

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posted June 29, 2013 10:38 AM            

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thanks, i think im going to try and compromise. i just feel like something happened to her in her past and now shes afraid of physical intimacy so she uses religion as a cover. and i really dont want to offend her or anything. i know she WANTS to...its just getting her to trust me thats going to take time i hope.

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Sun Aries Moon Pisces
Mars Pisces Venus Pisces
Mercury Aries Jupiter in Virgo
Saturn in Aquarius Pluto in Scorpio
Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn
Ascendant Libra

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posted June 29, 2013 12:55 PM            

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Try posting this in Personal Readings also for some Astrological opinions.

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posted July 04, 2013 01:06 AM            

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Nope. The two of you are on different paths. Leave her to her chosen path.

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posted July 04, 2013 01:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Mystic Melody:
Nope. The two of you are on different paths. Leave her to her chosen path.

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how do you know?
how would she know what path she wants if i left her alone, therefore closing a possible door she might be happy in?
weve been talking and things have been going well. i have another thread in personal readings that goes more in depth if you want to look at it. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/007527.html

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Sun Aries Moon Pisces
Mars Pisces Venus Pisces
Mercury Aries Jupiter in Virgo
Saturn in Aquarius Pluto in Scorpio
Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn
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posted July 05, 2013 09:31 PM            

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I know because you WROTE IT. You said she was very religious and it was extremely important to her to wait to have sex until she was married and instead of respecting that you say you DON'T want to wait until marriage to have sex with her. It is just fine for you to not wait to have sex YOURSELF if you find a willing partner, but it IS NOT ok for you to attempt to manipulate HER into changing her deeply held views because you think "if there's love in the relationship than it needs to be expressed sexually".

That's DATE RAPIST TALK. I was being diplomatic with my first post, but since you asked....

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posted July 05, 2013 09:49 PM            

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also, fyi, I have a ten year old daughter.

I'll be in the next room cleaning my rifle.

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posted July 05, 2013 09:59 PM            

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Also, are you ready for marriage and to be a parent and to create a home for a child and to work your entire life to provide for a child? Are you ready to give up everything YOU want for another person? Oh wait, no, you aren't even ready to give up instant sexual gratification for another person who you claim to have "love" for in a relationship in order to respect her current views.

Ok, Mom is done. Probably.

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posted July 06, 2013 12:42 AM            

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did you check out my other thread? lol i even linked it.
i never even said i have love for her. instant sexual gratification? hah, you dont even know me. im still a virgin because im so strict with myself. she wouldnt even be interested if i didnt have such a high ethical and moral code, that i indeed suffer for. im the one denying myself my needs for the sake of everybody else; and in the meantime geting chewed out by people on an internet site because they dont understand. i constantly take the bullets for my friends and family. because im strong. and occasionally i reach out for help. im glad you are so amped about this but clearly, you dont understand.
hell no im not ready for parenthood and to create a home for a child and to work my life for him/her. i dont think anybody my age really is, im 21 years old and shes 19 hahaha to do that would be extremely naive. so maybe in a way, im showing love for an unborn child because i actually want to bring it into this world right.
read my other thread and comment there.
and FYI, i would NEVER EVER even try to guilt anybody into having sex with me. get real. just because i have an opinion doesnt mean i cant compromise, or that it will change because thats what people do. they are constantly evolving and changing with deep human experience.
and i do know a little bit about sacrifice, mom. you live the first twenty years of your life without a real father figure? have you had to be that person in the family that always has to protect everybody? are you the one whos the first to get all the **** thrown at them and then take it with a smile, because you know you have to? or rather....maybe its some sort of disease i have where i just dont think i deserve anything. happiness? i dont want it...or need it...im in search of something deeper.
i hope the best for you and your daughter.

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Sun Aries Moon Pisces
Mars Pisces Venus Pisces
Mercury Aries Jupiter in Virgo
Saturn in Aquarius Pluto in Scorpio
Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn
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posted July 06, 2013 01:13 AM            

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and you said i didnt respect that she wants to wait...i do respect it, we were discussing that BECAUSE eventually it was going to be an issue.
would you have rather me lied to her and said "yeah i wanna wait till marriage." and then have a relationship based around a lie? no...i straight up told her that because its the truth and we are very open and honest with each other and we respect each other for it. however, if we were dating and then i fell for her (which i can do without sex btw...) then yeah, id wait. and if it got too much then we would have to part ways but at least we would have tried to make it work.
you ever talked to a moon in pisces person about sex before? because for me, sex is so tied up with the amount of love i can give. sex isnt just sex for me. sex is an act of physical and spiritual transcendence. in fact id feel like a sleazeball if i had sex with somebody i didnt feel anything for so you can bet yourself id never do that.

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Mars Pisces Venus Pisces
Mercury Aries Jupiter in Virgo
Saturn in Aquarius Pluto in Scorpio
Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn
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posted July 11, 2013 10:23 PM            

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I've been a single mom for ten ("and a half" <-- said in my daughter's voice) years and um yeah, I know what it's like to be responsible for everything. lol I can see you have a good heart but if you aren't ready for a child, don't have sex. Duh. Right? **** happens.

I didn't have time to read your other thread, you are the first person I've bothered to have a back and forth conversation with here at LL in many years, kiddo. You engaged me, so I responded to you with my truth.
I think it must have been something you needed to hear.

Wait until you love someone and are ready to put them first. Learn everything you can from books about the differences between the sexes (or male/female energies to be more accurate, since gender is sort of irrelevant these days) and then wait until you've established a friendship and love relationship so you actually ARE having intimate spiritual sex, and not just Neptunian delusional masturbation with an "other" you are projecting a fantasy onto.

I was a little Mom-Annoyed during my second post up there, but I like you now, and trust in your good sense and decent heart, so this is all "nagging with love" here. See you around on the threads.

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posted July 11, 2013 11:19 PM            

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haha im honored
and im also glad you werent "nice" about it either. that gets to me better.
oh and update with this girl; we saw each other a few days ago. must have been fated by pluto or somethin cuz we bumped into each other in public lol.
when we were talking i realized i was obsessing over old feelings over her. and she as well. we both realized that it was pointless to start something again as it wouldnt be as it was the last time. we just "knew" it wasnt supposed to work out. sad, but very healing for the both of us.

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Mars Pisces Venus Pisces
Mercury Aries Jupiter in Virgo
Saturn in Aquarius Pluto in Scorpio
Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn
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posted July 11, 2013 11:20 PM            

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Originally posted by CatMote:
haha im honored
and im also glad you werent "nice" about it either. that gets to me better.
oh and update with this girl; we saw each other a few days ago. must have been fated by pluto or somethin cuz we bumped into each other in public lol.
when we were talking i realized i was obsessing over old feelings over her. and she as well. we both realized that it was pointless to start something again as it wouldnt be as it was the last time. we just "knew" it wasnt supposed to work out. sad, but very healing for the both of us.

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Mercury Aries Jupiter in Virgo
Saturn in Aquarius Pluto in Scorpio
Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn
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posted July 12, 2013 12:45 PM            

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You are neat. Glad to have argued with you.

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