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Leolady82
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posted December 23, 2013 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW.

I can't believe it was less than two months ago that I first posted this thread and here I am: madly in love and he's just as in love with me!

My ex has moved out and I'm moving into a smaller studio. Miraculously I managed to broker my friend's jewelry (nothing to do with my ex) and made enough to support myself for a few months, with prospects of making more in the near future! S has said he's very proud of me. I had to congratulate him as well; he's doing extremely well on his side of the business. We're still in secret, but things are so serious that he's taking into consideration my opinion on the new house he's having built on his property. He promised me he'll never cheat on me like my ex (without grilling me or giving me a hard time about my transition). He makes me feel loved and appreciated and still showers me with genuine compliments every time I see him. Then again, so do I, for him. He and I THINK alike. Our conversations are interesting and intriguing. He's opened up to me about his difficult relationship with his father. We're both excited to meet each other's families when we get time and feel safe doing so with this all being a secret from his business partner/my ex. Although he hasn't felt comfortable enough to say to me "I love you," I have not held back and I have on several occasions, declared my love for him with him in my arms, kissing him and clinging to him and he hasn't seemed happier. I think he said, "Aww, babe...I'm not so free-flowing with my emotions, but I FEEL it." I have told him "don't worry; I just want you to know how I feel, I'm not trying to get you to say or feel anything. I just don't want to hold back." It's pretty much like a fairy tale romance. When we have time to go out to dinner, I dress up really nicely (my previous relationship allowed me to acquire a gorgeous wardrobe over time. Believe me I worked for it!) and he's all complimentary and his face just clearly shows how attracted to me and how much he cares about me. The sex is still intense and spiritual, but lately he's calmed down and shown a truly cuddly side and even has admitted when he was worn out and not feeling well from working where it was snowing; so I brought him soup and made him tea, and sat in his lap and hand-fed him Satsuma slices and he couldn't really stop raving about how good I am to him....

I am SO in love!!!

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posted December 23, 2013 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for acousticbob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeoLady! You should get into writing short stories!

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posted December 24, 2013 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG.

I just can't with this.

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posted December 29, 2013 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotus_flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I would REALLY like to see a synastry/composite chart with this couple.....

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Leolady82
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posted December 30, 2013 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soooooo so far so good with my sextupul Scorpio man.


I'm getting him breakfast now in a cafe around the corner. He had insisted I stay at his apartment although I completely offered to sublet a room to stay out of his way, or get a smaller studio. We've spent a significant amount of time together, in which he's had the flu, had a business associate lose money on the East Coast, and me being harassed via text by my ex who claims I "crushed" him by leaving him.

It's been emotional! Gaddamn!!

But we got along! We're sweet to each other it's just, he's SOOOOOOOOOO textbook Scorpio that it's amusing. It's also amazing. The night before last we both woke up too early and I was distraught, and he comforted me like...with near FATHERLY love I couldn't believe how soothing he was. It's true: evolved Scorpios can handle ANY emotions and they enjoy the experience! He stroked my hair and held me and it was incredible. Most men would freak out at their girl being sad and needy.

Just...then it was his turn and he was SO broody yesterday. And stressed and then ****** at his other business partner. I stuck through it and was just sweet and pleasant and tried to be quiet when I thought he might need quiet time. Well it worked out; he thanked me for being so nurturing as he called it, and he said he liked having me around. So the need for extreme closeness from him has been confirmed. I'm just waiting for when he needs alone time because I'm more than willing to take off and hang out with friends. He doesn't appear to want me to. So far he's still extremely affectionate.

Ok his bfast is going to get cold...

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posted December 30, 2013 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok here's a Composite Chart:


Sun Libra in house 10

Moon Capricorn in house 2

Mercury Virgo in house 10

Venus Virgo in house 10

Mars Scorpio in house 12

Jupiter Capricorn in house 2

Saturn Virgo in house 9

Uranus Scorpio in house 12

Neptune Sagittarius in house 1

Pluto Libra in house 11

True Node Virgo in house 10

Ascendent: Scorpio

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Leolady82
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posted December 30, 2013 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SO yeah, I'm deeply in love with this man. I've told him: he acts like he loves me too, but he won't say the three little words and I don't care. He's an English Literature BA graduate, he HAS a great vocabulary and I find him extremely romantic even though he is surprised when I bring it up because he didn't view himself as such. He's said ALL SORTS of very sweet, romantic, loving things just not the actual phrase. He does not seem annoyed when I say it, actually he gets a big smile and usually hugs me tight and kisses me.

Only things are, there are a few things that I find to be forewarnings:
a) He's SUCH a good businessman, but he STRESSES! I guess he didn't get to be where he's at by being lax! I have been lax and I'm NOT rolling in dough so there you go. I told him I admire him and and aiming to be more like he is as far as financial responsibility. Mind you, he's almost 40 and I am just in the beginning of my 30s so YEAH! I'm listening and paying close attention to him. I also do my best to soothe him and relax him and he appreciates it. I literally witnessed him get angry about a business partner f-cking up over there in the state he's from, and fume and brood and complain for a good hour before I managed to see the anger wear off. He did NOT take it out on me. I can feel already the "typical Leo woman Scorpio man" pattern of him being broody, and me wondering WTF (why SO broody?) but managing to soothe him with my sunny optimism. I actually had to say, "WELL at least you can know you're loved and I'm here for you," before he visibly relaxed. Still, I don't blame him. The circumstances were reasonable enough. I just rarely stay mad at something bad happening for very long. Might be the Aquarius Moon or Sagittarius rising I don't know.

b) He revealed to me that my ex complained to him that I am "bad with money" and "spoiled." He asked me if these were true and I just said yeah pretty much but I'm about to make a lot MORE money and I'm finna be better about it. He looked uneasy, but said, "Well it's Ok because I'm good with numbers." I don't know what that means, but I can tell he's going to watch me like a hawk in my own business ventures and probably be both guiding and critical. I'm totally ready for this test! I'm def going to prove to him that I can manage myself on my own with what I have going. I even offered to pay rent with him and he seemed a bit relieved. This was AFTER I had expressed the option of renting a room somewhere in a house and he looked almost panicked, and said I could do whatever but I could also stay with him since he's rarely here at the apartment. His apartment is ridiculously expensive for the size but that's San Francisco for you. Esp his neighborhood. Anyway, my prospects look good and I'm not going to have him pay for ANYTHING that isn't totally 100% fair. I don't want anything but LOVE from him. And he needs to know that and trust me. I'm so lucky the future is bright for me financially. Mind you, this was AFTER his business partner on the other side claims to have been robbed of 12 racks of S'S money! SO he was dealing with a loss, and worrying that the guy was lying to him and also worrying that the guy would pay him back or not. He also stated a couple times that he "hates worrying about things" AS he was worrying. I found this amusing but acted like, totally supportive and compassionate and sh-t.

c) Leading the to next one....AH the infamous jealousy and possessiveness. SO he's been SO SO SO textbook Scorpio, to the point where I've been creeped out a little as he's shown me he can have a rather DARK sense of humor. But his emotional control is pretty on-point and I haven't really seen him act possessive with me or jealous. Well except in regards to my ex. He's already starting to hate him the more he hears about how dirty he's done me over the years, but we both agreed he's not going to hold my ex's personal life against his business sense. And S admires my ex's hard work ethic and such, so it's all good so far. Still, the more S listens to my plans to be an aerial dancer and to possibly expand my business, he actually showed concern and asked if I was going to make a bunch of money, did I still want to OH YEAH I forgot! He wants to do business with me, open another branch and have me in charge. I agreed, but I have something else going on. He was OK with me doing both but then asked if i did well enough with my current endeavors, would I still want to do business with him? I assured him yes, because he's offering me a wonderful opportunity. It's a lot of hard work, though, and I want to tackle it and show him I'm not as lazy and spoiled as I was made out to be by my ex. Still, I have this HUGE unease that he wants me in a position where he controls me entirely and has me to himself. All signs point to YES but he's not overt, so maybe I am wrong. EVEN MY EX claims that if I had been making enough money, I would have been like "F-CK YOU!" and dipped out on my own. This is not true: love is most important. I just usually would want to flee during a heated fight to re-group. My ex saw this as running away from him but hey! He was being a d-ck. I just have this uneasy feeling that I will get into another situation where I am dependent somehow and controlled. I'm making it clear to S that I will be successful and responsible enough so that I won't NEED him, per se, except for love and romance. Honestly, I don't know if he likes that. He actually, for all his emotional control, acted SCARED I would dance off into the sunset and leave our newly budding relationship. I could be wrong. I probably am wrong. I don't know, just seems like he wants to make sure I am responsible yet available to him. I'm a double fire sign woman: of COURSE I want to feel wanted and to an extent, yes, POSSESSED, but I really don't know how much personal freedom I'm going to require and how much he feels comfortable giving. Because he's rather serious and very hard-working. I feel like I can be, but I also feel like more of a sunny clown than him. THAT is for SURE!

Ok so I'm about to clean his apartment a bit. This morning we hung out together, until 9:30 when I went to Aerial Conditioning and he actually expressed concern that I was "leaving already?" But I told him I'd be right back after class. Still, HE is leaving for the work site and will return tomorrow. I'm alone in his apartment and free to do whatever. So I'm making myself useful :-) Right before he left I sat in his lap and we kissed and then I told him I was horny, so we had hot sex, a quickie. I liked that, again, it felt so good I could barely stand it, and he just kind of watched me and smiled licentiously at my expression and reactions and kind of said, like an evil villain: "Yessss. Yesss." There's always something perverted and dirty about us making love. ALMOST always. A few times it has been just sweet. We just REALLY are attracted to each other and very into it. I am pretty sure he enjoys my flexibility ;-)

OK! To work.

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Leolady82
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posted December 31, 2013 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW!

There are some DAMN good aspects in our composite charts. I went ahead and paid the cost to astro.com to get the full report and it was amazing! Even the negative aspects weren't considered "fatal" to the relationship. In a nutshell, there are 3+ aspects that say we will be good friends even in a love relationship; there are many indications business between us will be lucrative; and there are more aspects that indicate we have a good understanding of each other than the aspects that say we're going to suffer disillusionment.

Here are my favorites!

"Jupiter Trine Saturn

The trine of Jupiter and Saturn in the composite chart gives your relationship a steady quality that is quite enviable. You go on from day to day, avoiding most extremes of mood. You can depend on each other always being there. Both of you have the ability to accept each other for what you are and tolerate each other's foibles. The demands you make of each other are enough so that you work to satisy them, but not so great as to be impossible to
satisfy. As a couple, your expectations are well tempered by your understanding of the way things are. You are very patient with each other and willing to give your problems time to work themselves out. Since you do not act impulsively, you avoid some of the difficulties that other couples experience when they act on the impulse of a bad mood and damage their relationship.
When you have to plan together for the future, you are equally careful without being overcautious. You act only after weighing all the factors, and you usually act at the right time, for your sense of timing together is excellent. Regardless of the original goals of your relationship, if you take advantage of these abilities, you should be better able to ride out the difficult times than many other couples."

Sounds pretty good for a Leo and a Scorpio, eh?

"Jupiter in the Second House

Jupiter in the second house of the composite chart is excellent for all matters relating to property and possessions within the relationship. It does not necessarily indicate that the two of you will be wealthy, but it does indicate that you will have enough of whatever you want. In other words, resources are not likely to be a source of insecurity with you. Business associations are especially favored by this position of Jupiter."

Oh yeah!!

Here's one of my favorites:

"Mars Sextile Jupiter

Mars sextile Jupiter in the composite chart is a good indication that your ego-drives are
harmoniously related within the relationship. That is, each of you can do what you want and be what you want without getting in the way of your relationship. In fact, this aspect usually signifies that being together helps you both to be yourselves and do what you want. The symbolism of the Mars-Jupiter combination is fortunate action. You work well together, think well together, and have the happy facility of wanting the same things at the same time or of seeking objectives that you can pursue together. And all these activities cement your relationship. If you are friends, this aspect will help you to be good friends. If you are lovers, you will also be friends, which is quite unusual in a love affair. This aspect confers a rare quality of optimism on a relationship. You expect things to work, and that expectation somehow makes it happen. As a couple you will set high goals for yourselves, and they will be within your grasp. Sometimes the effort you expend, although real, will not even be apparent. It simply comes so easily that you are not aware of the effort at the time. This aspect can be instrumental in making a relationship successful, regardless of its purpose."

"Venus Sextile Ascendant

The sextile of composite Venus and Ascendant is an excellent aspect for a personal
relationship. First of all, it is a sign of loving friendship, whether you are lovers or simply friends. It is easy for each of you to indicate your feelings to the other, without the hesitancy or shyness about revealing emotions that can make a relationship difficult from time to time. You always feel comfortable and easy with each other. When stressful times occur, you both are primarily concerned about the survival of your relationship, so you willingly make the necessary compromises to ensure it. The only problem to watch for is that the energy of Venus may be so accommodating that one partner will give way when he or she should take a stand in order to save self-esteem and respect. Fortunately, however, you both are inclined to do this, so at least it is not always the same person who gives way. Even so, don't allow your desire for a smooth relationship to make you hold back tensions and energies that should be expressed, even if they cause some trouble. This problem becomes more severe if there are other indications of trouble in the chart. This relationship may possibly become associated with some artistic or aesthetic activity involving music or the arts or a branch of the entertainment industry. Certainly the two of you will be attracted to such activities, especially if you had an interest in them before you came together."

That one is cute because he really has been pushing for us to find time to visit an art gallery. We just have been extremely busy and stressed, and he's been sick.

THIS ONE IS FOR ALL THE HATERS:

"Moon Trine Saturn

The trine of composite Moon and Saturn produces a highly stable and consistent relationship. In a love relationship, this aspect makes your love for each other steady and sober. If this is a friendship, it will be an enduring one. What you won't have with this aspect is the wildly romantic, unstable kind of love that many people seek out. This is an indicator of a serious relationship, one that is only for those who are tired of playing around and want something real and enduring. This aspect neither creates nor denies affection and love. It simply makes whatever feelings there are steady and solid. You are likely to share the attitude that although you both have emotional needs, they must always be governed by a realistic, pragmatic approach to life. You accept what you have and do not make excessive demands upon the other. As a couple, you take seriously what the relationship offers. The two of you are also probably quite reflective about the nature of your relationship and quite self-critical. It is as if you are constantly asking, "What are we together, really?" While it is beneficial to reflect on the real nature of a relationship, do not overdo the criticism. You have solid virtues working for you with this aspect. Do not negate them with pessimism."

Here's probably why we like to f-ck so much:

"Sun Square Moon

Sometimes, for reasons that are not entirely clear, the Sun-Moon square can create a
rather strong mutual fascination. It is as if each of you sees in the other something you want very much, even though you cannot handle it very well. In fact, the energy may be so strong that you are unable to relax into the casualness that is desirable in a long-term relationship. A Sun-Moon square is quite likely to be found in the composite chart of an intense love affair."

And another one:

"Moon Sextile Mars

The sextile of the composite Moon and composite Mars indicates that your relationship is based on feelings. There is a great deal of emotional energy here that makes it difficult for you to ignore what the other person does or says. Fortunately, however, the energy is not especially negative. In fact, in a sexual relationship this aspect is a positive indication for success, because Mars rules certain portions of the energy complex that makes up sexual energy. The Moon, of course, rules the feelings. The result is that this aspect arouses the energies needed for a positive sexual relationship. Except for sexual contact, this combination of Mars and the Moon is not especially physical in its expression. But physical activity provides a good outlet for the energies it generates. Consequently you should not sit around together but should try to be active in all possible ways. If there is work to be done, the energy of this aspect can help."

AND HERE'S ONE I HAVE FELT FROM THE FIRST TIME WE HUNG OUT:

"Moon Conjunct Jupiter

The conjunction of the Moon and Jupiter in a composite chart is a very favorable indication for any kind of personal relationship. Its symbolism can be described in general as good feelings; that is, the two of you feel good together. You feel warm toward each other, and you can express your feelings easily and with enthusiasm. If one of you is sad or depressed, the other person will cheer you up. At the same time, you respect each other's emotions. You feel quite protective of your partner and try to keep him or her from being emotionally hurt by others. It may even get to the point of mothering each other; however, this will be experienced as supportive rather than oppressive. In fact, the effects of this aspect are quite far removed from the kind of mothering that may be better described as smothering, for you have a great deal of respect for each other's freedom and individual rights. When disputes do arise, you will try to deal with them in a very high-minded manner, not allowing yourselves to be petty or small. You will discuss the issues openly and try to resolve them in a way that is fair to both of you. A Moon-Jupiter conjunction in a composite horoscope is often an indication that the two of you will be quite prosperous in a material way if you have the kind of relationship in which you own possessions in common."

So yeah, there is a lot of good in our relationship! I'm extremely happy to be with him and feel very, very lucky.

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posted December 31, 2013 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been reluctant to comment any further on this situation since several people took what I said as being judgmental or self righteous. Everything that I said to you is exactly what I would say to a friend. From the start your situation has my alarm bells ringing, and I cannot ignore that nagging feeling when that happens. I'm not a hater, and trust me Leolady, I don't envy you or your circumstances.

You should research your individual natal charts and synastry before looking at the composite, since the natals show your approach to relationships. You are Sagittarius rising, so he puts all those Scorpio planets in your 12 th house. Yikes! This is some heavy Karma you're dealing with. Not to mention your Leo sun and Aquarius moon squaring his Scorpio stellium. If he is a Scorpio or late Libra rising that could put his stellium in his first house. If that's the case it's all about him, and this could explain why at nearly 40 he has not had a meaningful romantic relationship. You said he had nothing but bad things to say about his exes, to me that's not a good sign, seeing as how he's the common denominator there. You referred to yourself as naive several times, but you seem to be noticing the many red flags already. Enjoy it while it lasts, but be very careful about confusing great sex with love. Scorpios have earned the reputation as being great lovers for a reason You have mentioned ovulating several times and have expressed wanting to have his children, for your own sake you might want to slow down a bit. The fact is that you barely know this man, and so far this relationship is mostly sexual. Once the initial excitement has worn off, you will most likely see that you were so caught up in the passion that you ignored the clear warning signs. I know it's not what you want to hear, but this fledgling relationship has some major obstacles from the start. That is not being judgmental or negative, it's stating the blatantly obvious. I'm sorry to say that because now your heart is in it(which I think it always was), and now you have put yourself in a situation where you can get hurt.

I would encourage you to pursue your Aerial acrobatics and focus on your own ambitions. It's not just about money and financial independence, it's following your dreams. If you become his "professional girlfriend", it once again makes you dependent on a man. Even married women should not rely solely on their husbands in my opinion cause sh*t happens. I believe everyone should have a sense of autonomy, and it makes for a more balanced relationship. If I were you, I'd try to room with a friend and have a sense of your own life before getting overly involved with this guy. I believe that's the only way this relationship has any chance of growing into a loving relationship. I get the feeling it will fizzle out and end as abruptly as it started, and I don't think it will be pretty.

Once again, take it or leave it, but please do not misconstrue what I said as trying to rain on your parade. I am in no way a negative person. From the first time I read your story I felt compelled to warn you, and my feelings have not changed.

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posted January 08, 2014 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blue: I appreciate your comments! I have some retorts, but not rude ones. Let me see if my password works first; I had a difficult time posting a min ago...

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posted January 08, 2014 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, so as a quick update we are currently living together in Lower Pacific Heights (kinda white-upper-middle-class/college neighborhood) and it's going perfectly.

I've NEVER been in a relationship THIS easy or THIS enjoyable and he agrees and concurs. We spend almost every minute of every day having intellectual conversations (he's SO smart), complimenting each other, kissing and hugging, or cuddling and having sex. Actually, the sex has diminished from 3xs a day to more like once or twice with and oral session. This is ok to me; he's almost always touching me sweetly and kissing me so it's like constant foreplay and I want it a lot more, but I don't want to pressure him so I just enjoy our intimacy.

He has stated superlative things like: "I've never been so fulfilled; you're the BEST!; please don't ever change; I'm so lucky; I'm not normally like this, YOU make me how I
am;" etc. It's ALMOST overwhelming but I just eat it up, I love it

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posted January 08, 2014 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bluejay:
I have been reluctant to comment any further on this situation since several people took what I said as being judgmental or self righteous. Everything that I said to you is exactly what I would say to a friend. From the start your situation has my alarm bells ringing, and I cannot ignore that nagging feeling when that happens. I'm not a hater, and trust me Leolady, I don't envy you or your circumstances.

You should research your individual natal charts and synastry before looking at the composite, since the natals show your approach to relationships. You are Sagittarius rising, so he puts all those Scorpio planets in your 12 th house. Yikes! This is some heavy Karma you're dealing with. Not to mention your Leo sun and Aquarius moon squaring his Scorpio stellium. If he is a Scorpio or late Libra rising that could put his stellium in his first house. If that's the case it's all about him, and this could explain why at nearly 40 he has not had a meaningful romantic relationship. You said he had nothing but bad things to say about his exes, to me that's not a good sign, seeing as how he's the common denominator there. You referred to yourself as naive several times, but you seem to be noticing the many red flags already. Enjoy it while it lasts, but be very careful about confusing great sex with love. Scorpios have earned the reputation as being great lovers for a reason You have mentioned ovulating several times and have expressed wanting to have his children, for your own sake you might want to slow down a bit. The fact is that you barely know this man, and so far this relationship is mostly sexual. Once the initial excitement has worn off, you will most likely see that you were so caught up in the passion that you ignored the clear warning signs. I know it's not what you want to hear, but this fledgling relationship has some major obstacles from the start. That is not being judgmental or negative, it's stating the blatantly obvious. I'm sorry to say that because now your heart is in it(which I think it always was), and now you have put yourself in a situation where you can get hurt.

I would encourage you to pursue your Aerial acrobatics and focus on your own ambitions. It's not just about money and financial independence, it's following your dreams. If you become his "professional girlfriend", it once again makes you dependent on a man. Even married women should not rely solely on their husbands in my opinion cause sh*t happens. I believe everyone should have a sense of autonomy, and it makes for a more balanced relationship. If I were you, I'd try to room with a friend and have a sense of your own life before getting overly involved with this guy. I believe that's the only way this relationship has any chance of growing into a loving relationship. I get the feeling it will fizzle out and end as abruptly as it started, and I don't think it will be pretty.

Once again, take it or leave it, but please do not misconstrue what I said as trying to rain on your parade. I am in no way a negative person. From the first time I read your story I felt compelled to warn you, and my feelings have not changed.



The guy sounds sketchy to me as well.

But there's just something very off here, i feel like im reading a work of fiction. My immediate reaction to the initial story was BS. I'm sorry if the op is telling the truth but the whole story sounds fabricated to me.

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posted January 09, 2014 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^LMAO! Truth is stranger than fiction at times. HAHAHA! I do NOT have time to make up stories and put them on the internet. I barely have time to post up on here. At first it was venting, but now it's purely for pleasure.

Anyway, S left yesterday afternoon and last night I wore his soft, button up flannel long-sleeved shirt to sleep in for comfort. He sent me a text "I LOVE YOU" out of nowhere, I was so pleased. He hadn't said it up to this point, even though he's been saying things more creative and endearing in my opinion. We're both lovesick and we're kinda disgusting to the more PDA-inhibited person. We will randomly share a passionate kiss in public, like on New Year's Day we walked through Japan Town to the Safeway on Webster to get some groceries, and we made out on the Webster-Geary pedestrian bridge over traffic (granted, there wasn't much traffic at all. I don't even recall Geary Blvd being that empty). It was so hot! Two days ago he took me to breakfast, then to lunch (Dim Sum in the outer Richmond at a wonderful place called Ton Kiang), and while we were getting ready to leave the restaurant I said, "Thank you so much honey for breakfast AND lunch!" and he said "It's the least I can do for a princess like you."

I like, blushed and couldn't stand up and was speechless for a few seconds. He is SO SWEET! It really IS almost unbelievable. I don't blame anyone for not being about to think this **** is credible, I would hardly believe it myself if I wasn't actually hearing and seeing it with my own ears and eyes. Ok I am going to address some concerns...

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posted January 09, 2014 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bluejay:

You should research your individual natal charts and synastry before looking at the composite, since the natals show your approach to relationships. You are Sagittarius rising, so he puts all those Scorpio planets in your 12 th house. Yikes! This is some heavy Karma you're dealing with.

Ok, thanks, I have taken a look but honestly I am not sure how you mean, in regards to him putting all the Scorpio planets in my 12th house. In our composite chart, Mars and Uranus are in the 12th in Scorpio, if that's what you mean?

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If he is a Scorpio or late Libra rising that could put his stellium in his first house. If that's the case it's all about him, and this could explain why at nearly 40 he has not had a meaningful romantic relationship.

First off, seems like the longest relationship he's been in was 3 years but he didn't talk about it and I didn't ask. I told him about my previous LTRs (my longest one was 5 years) but he seemed slightly uncomfortable when I spoke of them. HAHA! Interested yet uncomfortable. In fact, he tries not to talk about the previous girls in his life, out of respect for me, I think.

Yes, he is a Scorpio rising and he has a 1st house stellium, with Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars. I don't HAVE a stellium but almost: I have three signs in the 8th House and 3 signs in the 10th House. Sex, power and other people's money! LOL

I read about 1st House stelliums and apparently all he has to do to balance out his obsession with himself (a trait I have NOT seen in him, really; he is extremely thoughtful and caring of others, mostly of me) is to concentrate on 7th House matters, such as partnership. And he has, Oh he has! I read this: "A partner or other people, such as clients, can balance the personality by drawing the energy, the focus, away from the individual’s own personality." This is already happening.

On another note, when I read about 10th house stelliums: "With a stellium in the 10th House, there are problems with the professional choice and dealing with authority figures. The professional life should be connected with the home and one’s own property (hotel, day care or just being a house wife) or working out of one’s own home or property. Being one’s own boss takes the pressure off of authority figure confrontations with every minor transit that afflicts the 10th House" This is extremely true about me! I can only work for myself at this point. And being a sort of house-wife is extremely fulfilling to me for some reason. Then again, I only have three planets in the 10th: Mars, Saturn and Pluto


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Originally posted by Bluejay:
Enjoy it while it lasts, but be very careful about confusing great sex with love. Scorpios have earned the reputation as being great lovers for a reason You have mentioned ovulating several times and have expressed wanting to have his children, for your own sake you might want to slow down a bit. The fact is that you barely know this man, and so far this relationship is mostly sexual.

This was definitely true at first! Since the end of December, we have experienced together: me going through an extreme break up and us deepening what we have; me moving in with him; him being extremely ill with the flu; two holidays; business complications and a robbery of 12 grand back in Pittsburgh; my ex freaking out on me; my ex dissolving the partnership and asking S to buy him out slowly over time; S having to take over the Northern CA segment alone (and being extremely pleased about it).

My ex does NOT know about us still, and we're still pretty much in secret although he has told his other business partner for the East Bay segment yesterday (the guy is smart and guessed). I told my close friend yesterday who lives in the same building as my ex, although that was sketchy, he promises not to say anything to my ex.

Anyway, EACH day out relationship deepens. It's rather sickening. HAHA! HE sure doesn't think so, and I don't emphasize it, but YEAH talk about emotional. HE IS TEXTBOOK SCORPIO in that he's afraid of NO emotions. Ok, get this, so he's 6' tall and skinny, right? Tall guys usually have back issues if they don't exercise and stretch regularly. He goes to his gym, I'm still a Circus and Yoga aficionado, so on NYE I busted out my Yoga mat and taught him some Yoga. He had NEVER done Yoga is his life but he was SO open to it...he was so good! I'm surprised at how flexible he is. He LOVED IT! So I laid him on his back and stretched him out and twisted him and made his spine and hips feel great. HE WAS SO GRATEFUL he emphasized that I had no idea how much helping him like that meant to him. It was extremely fun for me, too, because I want to be a Yoga teacher someday. Anyway when we were at lunch having Dim Sum two days ago, the stretching was brought up and I said, "Well, looks like I will have to stretch you out EVERY day, then."

HE TEARED UP. He literally almost CRIED in the restaurant!!!! Duuuude, it was endearing but I had a moment of panic where I was like, trying to stop him from crying. He managed to take it down, but my Aquarius Moon couldn't handle that. LMAO!!! I definitely played down my mortification so as not to embarrass him and went on to describe the little things that make ME tear up, like animal rescue adoption ads and such (true! But usually around my period, only). At any rate, this was the first time I had seen him near-tears and it was all because he was so happy that I was willing to stretch him out every day and make him feel good. YEAH! I'm shaking my head, I don't quite understand it, either, but it's very sweet and I'm extremely happy that he is so happy with me.

Ok I have to go to a training session at the gym....more later

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posted January 09, 2014 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the consideration of our relationship, I have found these to be important:

1. I am an Eight House Sun (and Venus...and Jupiter). This holds more significance than the fact that my Sun and Moon square almost everything about him, LOL
http://scorpioland.org/scorpios-8th-house-sun/

Copying is disabled on this website, but the article mentions 8th house Sun sign people are extremely attracted and attracTIVE to Sun sign Scorpios. It also says we "control everyone, including Scorpios," we "joyously embrace things that repulse others" and "others find us repulsive on occasion" (this is so true I laughed and laughed over it), and "people assume evil" about us and "project their own faults" onto us, just as with Sun sign Scorpios.

As an Eighth House Sun person, especially with Venus and Jupiter also being in that house, I simply CANNOT GET AWAY from the fact that my luck and money is going to come from my partners, inheritance, or generally from other people. This bothers me because I consider myself very independent. But it has been proven true, time and time again. Also, my life is supposed to fall apart and be regenerated, and I am never emotionally down for the count. This is also true. S is already spoiling me although I make sure to spoil him back. He's promising to take me on trips and vacations and it makes me as happy as it makes me nervous. My practical Gemini Sun Taurus Moon best friend has stressed to me that the second I accept something from someone else, they can hold it over my head. I am most definitely aware that S is supposed to be THE most controlling type out there, being a Sextuple Scorpio, a Scorpio in the Third Decante, and born on November 14th, of which CONTROLLING is like, emphasized as a weakness or negative quality. So yes I am slightly afraid that if I allow him to spoil me, I will be basically obliged to obey him completely. Still, ALL of his suggestions so far just seem like good ideas to me, and when he plans our day he always "asks" me first and he listens to my own suggestions. SO FAR. I have no desire to dominate and I told him that. I also don't mind when he plans our day, because I enjoy when someone else takes the reins. I have a Neptune in the 1st house, a Venus in Cancer and a Sag rising; all of these qualities make me susceptible to acquiescing to a more dominant personality. But if it's unjust?? Oh, you will never see a person MORE stubborn or adverse to the perpetrator. My ex was extremely unfair at times and I stood up to him and fought tooth and nail. HE called ME "dominant." HA! I really don't mind a King in my life, so long as he's a wise and fair one.

2. The whole idea about Scorpios and them being MORE attracted to the other Fixed signs than the supposedly perfectly-matched other Water signs or Earth signs.
http://scorpioland.org/scorpios-other-fixed-signs/

This article proposes that Aquarius and Leo are like "Kryptonite" to Scorpios and I have found this to be quite true. I did an internet search on Scorpios and relationships and I read more than one account in which a Pisces woman was in love with a Scorpio man who "would not leave his Leo girlfriend" for her. THIS was as sad as it was hilarious to me! I know, I'm twisted. Blame it on my 8th House Sun. The article about Scorpios and other fixed signs states that "strength respects strength, power respects power, and stubbornness respects stubbornness." THIS IS SO TRUE of me. I really have snide for wishy-washyness. I LOVE my Pisces-Sun Gemini-Moon girl friend but on more than once I've been frustrated by her indecisiveness and such. BUT I adore her anyway! <3

The article insists that Leos, Acquari, and Taureans will NOT be puppets to Scorpios, nor will they be mindless followers and Scorpios know that and LOVE it. It also claims that Scorpios enjoy opposition and struggle in a relationship. So far, S and I have NONE. Seriously? We spend a lot of time wrapped in each other's arms. When we chill on the couch, he puts his hand on my leg and strokes me lovingly. We hug and kiss spontaneously in the apartment and compliment each other. AT night, we cuddle until we're too tired and then I wiggle to my side of the bed because I notice WHEN HE SLEEPS he'd rather be left alone, which I can handle! Haha. But first thing in the morning? He says "Good morning, Beautiful," and we hug and kiss (yes, even with morning breath) and cuddle. SO reading that article made me rest-assured that IF we start to suffer any friction or conflict, it'll probably just excite him. Being an Eighth House Sun, I enjoy occasional violent sex. HAHA, wow that seems really bad, um, well, let me put it this way: he never REALLY hurts me but he does satisfy this desire occasionally. I am hesitant to explore S&M (I used to be WAY into it with a Gemini-Sun Aries Moon ex boyfriend back in my early 20s) with him just because I don't want us to do anything that doesn't feel inauthentic. Or repeated. So I'm just going to enjoy what unfolds naturally between us. Seems like the best manner with him.

3. Finally, "The Secret Language of Relationships" book says that Leo IIs and Scorpio IIIs have a "Good Humor" reltionship in which Friendship is the best, Work is the worst (because they are so much at ease with each other). I liked "Their relationship stays fresh and new over the years." Also "together they can open up emotionally to an astonishing degree."

So far, it's in the stars, baby

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I don't have much to say but just that I'm glad things have turned out to be ok for you. Hope it will stay that way. I have a friend who's in a similar situation and things haven't been good for her.

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posted January 10, 2014 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Muddy! Hmm I'm curious now

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posted January 10, 2014 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Muddy! Hmm I'm curious now

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i worked things out with my hubby. i wasnt sure if open relationship would work or how he felt about it. i met another scorpio like myself and i guess he felt we were soulmates. but i have only one soulmate my hubby. but my hubby is a hippie and i fell in love with a hippie. and there were two other men i told my hubby about and he knew about but we were still working out if we wanted an open relationship with other people. and we decided to leave it as friends with the other two one who is aries and the other scorpio as they both thought i was their soulmate. but i know i only have one soulmate my hubby. but we wont be having an open relationship. i love my hubby too much to continue with aries and scorpio as more than good friends. my hubby is happy. and i love and care about my hubby alot. after a thousand years funny funny then my husband will decide our next adventure. i am going to give him the time of his life. we are going to have a thousand years of fun. so much fun he deserves to be happy and have so much fun so much love and friends all around the world. ((((((hugs))))) my sweetheart. i love you so much my hubby and soulmate tristan from colorado. please pray for my husband to come home to his soulmate twinn soul saronna safely to australia from the military in colorado. thanks

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We are SO in love.

I can't even write all of the things we've said and done. There's no other man more perfect than him. We haven't had a single fight or argument. Every day is like a day in paradise. Yeah, there is a drought in California and it sucks, but every day is 70 degrees (or nearly) and sunny and perfect in San Francisco, and we spend most of the day together, hugging and kissing and whispering sweet nothings. NO ONE here would even believe it. He constantly says he has to pinch himself to make sure he's not dreaming, and I feel the same.

EVERYONE WAS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLY WRONG when they advised against, dissed and hated on our attraction. He is the most romantic, intelligent, sensitive, loving, caring and affectionate man I've ever known and I feel like a Disney princess. We are DISGUSTING we're so all over each other and we declare our love for each other several times a day (YES he is now finally saying "I love you so much, Baby"). Our work is going so well that we don't even have to put much time into working and we're making a very nice profit. He used to be a workaholic, but now he doesn't really have to put a whole lot of time into working and focusing all of his time on me, on us

I can't believe I stayed with my horrible ex as long as I did, because he barely did ANYTHING for me other than cheat and try to make up for it by buying me things. S does little things for me everyday that show his love, he SAYS his love, and he compliments me all day every day. I do the same; I cannot believe he is even a Scorpio sometimes: he exhibits almost NONE of the negative qualities and he says he trusts me completely.

I am certain we're going to get married soon. I've never felt so in love or so close to a man before. I've never felt so secure and adored like this. Just today on the street we kissed and hugged (he has NO problem with Public Displays of Affection) and he held me and said, "I am so lucky. And I'm going to tell you that every day." He HAS been saying that every day! More than once a day!

My ex and I have cut all financial ties and he had been begging for me back (I have no idea why; he didn't even act like he LIKED me that much during our relationship), then sending me mean texts, and then FINALLY just today he sent me an extremely immature and asinine text about NEVER texting him again and he never wants to hear from me or see me again. He must be on an Ecstasy crash is all I can reckon! S and I make fun of and laugh about him all the time. As far as we know he still doesn't know I'm living with S in the City just a few districts away, happily and madly in love! Serves him right for cheating on me with three or more different women, I mean, having drawn-out AFFAIRS in front of our mutual friends and having the arrogance to think it wouldn't get back to me.

Hmmmm...there is only just ONE thing. My darling S, the love of my life, my sextuple Scorpio man whom I adore, HAS been showing some serious jealousy lately. NOT resentment or anger at me, oh no! He hasn't taken ONE ****** mood out on me. Even at his worst he still will smile through his brooding at me. And I bring him out of any of his funky moods after a while. He also soothes me when I erupt in frustration over whatever is annoying me. We just make each other so happy! But the only snag is, uh, a couple days ago I mentioned a MALE friend who might make a good salesman for his jewelry, and talked to him and the guy said yes. I tried to talk him up and carefully made a point to mention this guy has a GIRLFRIEND and I know them both and have for 3 years. S just looked not happy about talking to him and little weird about me visiting him to talk business. Then he apologized and admitted that he thinks I am "such a great catch" that he could hardly believe that I hadn't made a significant connection with another man in this City, and that there are probably lots of guys out there "in love with me." I assured him no one had really caught my fancy (true), and that even though my ex C and I were always on and off, I usually pretended to our acquaintances that we were "on" more than off to avoid being hit on. S relaxed, and I took him to meet my guy and they agreed to some business together without issue. THEN, just today we went to have lunch. S was very hungry and we tried out some Peruvian place in our hood. When we walked through the door there were several tables filled with mostly men but I wasn't paying attention. We sat down and everything was cool, we weren't close to anyone else, really. We had some small talk but I noticed he got a little distracted and quiet, and then he started dissing a couple roughnecks in baseball caps at the table across the room by the door. I know that hats at the table in a restaurant is a pet peeve of his (he used to be server at many fine restaurants for years and years in D.C.). I also has stupidly mentioned that hats can be sexy on guys, me and a girlfriend of mine think so. THIS was a while ago and meant nothing. These particular guys were not attractive. And I was half-joking when I had mentioned this. Anyway today, after he made fun of them to me, he said with a lot of snide and disgust, "I saw them checking you out when we came in...I guess I just have to get used to having a hot girlfriend." I was STUNNED. Flattered and stunned. I smiled and was like, "Oh, Honey!" and wasn't exactly sure what to say because he got VISIBLY physically disturbed at the table, and then said, "I just hope I can control my jealousies. I'm sure I can..." and I hurriedly assured him that I found it very sweet, and it didn't bother me if he was a little jealous, but that I would probably freak out if he did something crazy like punch someone for doing NOTHING. He laughed, I laughed, the mood changed and he said, "Have I told you how awesome you are, yet, today?" and the rest of lunch was very enjoyable.

I just got a little feeling of dread. These dudes just LOOKED at me (apparently, I did NOT notice) from their table and he got very primal. In fact, the second we got home he grabbed me by the top of my leggings and threw me on the bed roughly. I laughed and then he turned me on my back and pulled my leggings and panties off and gave me some of the BEST head of my life! Then he undressed, climbed on top of me and made love to me while kissing me and looking into my eyes and telling me I was "so beautiful." JESUS!!! Oh man, I was like, still trembling from pleasure and joy for like 40 minutes afterwards!!! He is SO F-CKING HOTTTTT!!!!

But yeah, this steamy afternoon aside, for these past three weeks I've spent ALL my time with him, catering to him and giving him whatever he wants, whenever he wants, showering him with affection and treating him like a king. Granted, he's been doing the exact same thing to ME. We are BOTH totally whipped but eventually I will probably want to hang out with friends, possibly some of them being male. I am, quite honestly, afraid. I REALLY do not think it will go over well. So I'm avoiding it. F-ck 'em, he's worth being sensitive to and spending all my time with for the time being. We're still bonding and getting to know each other. Still...I am humble. I don't consider myself as beautiful and sexy as he or anyone else tells me, but YEAH I get stared at, catcalls, and guys falling over themselves to try to talk to me quite often. It is a BIG City and I am out and about a lot. I really hope my devotion and sweetness to him when we're out in public soothes any issues he has with male attention being paid to me. Aside from this afternoon, so far it's been fine. I just have no idea why he acts insecure sometimes. He is literally SMOKING HOT and girls notice and look at him (servers and other women who have to talk to us seem to be overly nice to ME for some reason, but I'm sunny and warm par usual), and guys seem to immediately act insecure and disturbed in his presence. Literally, I have never seen a guy have such a negative effect on all other men. It's amusing as all hell!!

S likes to call us a "Power Couple," which is sweet and amusing to me. I GUESS, I dunno, life is great. I'm so grateful to have such a wonderful boyfriend. So far, this Scorpio man is the most perfect lover I've ever known.

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