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Topic: How do you know when relationship karma is paid?
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twinflame1914
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posted November 25, 2013 08:21 PM
  
It's a long story (isn't it always!). There is someone I have strong feelings for and because of external circumstances we cannot be together (this person is currently in another relationship)I had our charts analyzed and was told that we had a past life connection where we were in a committed relationship and he was taken away from me. His natal pluto opposes his sun and my natal pluto conjucts my natal venus, so we both have personal work to do. There are indications that a potential relationship could manifest between us. Because of all the serendipitous events leading us to this point, and our charts and what they say, I feel as though we have been specifically brought together because we have karmic issues to work through (regardless if we end up together or not). How does one resolve karma with another person in this situation, and how does one know when it is complete? Thanks IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 26, 2013 03:45 PM
When you can forgive the other person, it is complete.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted November 26, 2013 05:34 PM
^ Randall 
It's very hard to forgive sometimes, though.
And sometimes things are just very complex and hard to understand. Sometimes we just don't know why things happen the way they do.
Still, acceptance and forgiveness are key.
Dang, I need to work on myself...
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twinflame1914
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posted November 26, 2013 05:49 PM
So us having a relationship together and having it work wouldn't be balancing karma?
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Doux Rêve
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posted November 26, 2013 06:04 PM
Depends on how the relationship evolves, I suppose.
If it becomes unhealthy and leads to negative feelings, that'd probably mean you need to get out of it and then forgive and do the healing away from each other.
If it works out, you can heal and help each other grow, in a positive way.
Eh, what do I know.
Karma is a bit of a fuzzy concept.
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bumblebee
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posted November 27, 2013 08:40 AM
I wouldn't look only to tropical synastry - chec draconic too. Look for conjunctions and opposition within 1 degree orb between your tropical planets and his draconic and vice versa.I've read that karma of a relationship could be eliminated every time transiting nodes make an aspect to the tr. node of the time the relationship is formed. Nodes are about relationship - it's a relationship between sun and moon, right? IP: Logged |
twinflame1914
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posted November 27, 2013 10:05 PM
Thanks for your responses. I am really new to astrology so I have no idea what any of what you said means. I am so confused about the whole situation as I keep getting different responses from everyone  IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted November 27, 2013 10:27 PM
Maybe the "karma" is about accepting it is the way it is and letting to and moving forward... Once that happens then the karma could be resolved..
Sometimes karma can pertain to "not " being in a relationship...
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twinflame1914
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posted November 27, 2013 10:44 PM
I am feeling almost obsessive about this....I don't feel like the karma is resolved yet and I just want it done IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted November 27, 2013 10:57 PM
I get it..l trust me, been there... Going through it myself... Finding ways to truly let go, is difficult but not impossible.
Keeping your head busy, and focusing on just you helps.
But that's why karma's a ***** ... Lol IP: Logged |
twinflame1914
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posted November 27, 2013 11:01 PM
It really is. I just cannot stop analyzing this situation. Can a progressive chart indicate if we will get together? can a progressive chart indicate a seperation from a partner? IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted November 27, 2013 11:09 PM
I'll be really honest here, trying to understand it won't work...
It leads to more obsession, not that I'm one to talk...
I've spent way to much time researching, which made me more crazy...
Astrology can sometimes add to the obsession.
It gives more energy into thinking about it... Once I changed the direction of my mind, it got way clearer...
I concentrated on just me...
Now he's come back asking for another chance, and I'm telling him no, I just don't want to go through it again... IP: Logged |
twinflame1914
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posted November 27, 2013 11:18 PM
Astrology totally adds to the obsession! So many different opinions had made me more confused.
Isn't that always how it goes? My ex contacted me yesterday telling me how much he missed me.I don't know much about astrology but I get the feeling that perhaps there are missing pieces to the astrology puzzle we don't have yet? IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted November 27, 2013 11:35 PM
Astrology is more matter if fact... The actually human factor and upbringing / back ground can alter any situation... It's a tool to see how the energy can play out, but human factor is very complicated... Nothing is set in stone when it comes to us crazy humans.  IP: Logged |
MsPrism
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posted November 28, 2013 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
When you can forgive the other person, it is complete.
I second this wholeheartedly! IP: Logged |
twinflame1914
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posted November 28, 2013 09:40 AM
Thanks for the responses.
An astrologersaid that in his porgressive chart there was indication of a separation with his partner (something about natal moon opposing natal sun) - are certain events already predestined?IP: Logged |
iliketurtles
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posted November 28, 2013 06:35 PM
when you can both walk away from it, totally at peace with one another. no anger, no bitterness, no resentment just be at peace with each other and (most importantly) within yourself. i think when there is no negative residual energy floating around even when the love is gone.IP: Logged |
iliketurtles
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posted November 28, 2013 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by twinflame1914:
Thanks for the responses.
An astrologersaid that in his porgressive chart there was indication of a separation with his partner (something about natal moon opposing natal sun) - are certain events already predestined?
i think they are just "indications" but nothing is ever set in stone. there may be a transit approaching that appear to indicate communications difficulties or conflict. predictve astrology such as transits and progressions i think is like reading the weather, potential difficulties might be indicated 99% there is usually a solution. imo most potential difficulties in the weather can be avoided or counteracted (aside from the odd freak tornado or being struck by lightnening....) there has to be a solution.
if theres a chance of rain - shelter yourself? if theres a chance of not understanding your partner for period of time - make an effort to speak clearly and be calm with each other during that time! perhaps its a sign you should be doing that all the time yanno? if you run into diffulties you have to make an effort to be constructive and fix whatever is going wrong. communication is key its something i think we all have to master at some point, but we get dragged into it first. IP: Logged |
twinflame1914
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posted November 28, 2013 09:19 PM
Thanks for the responses.
An astrologersaid that in his porgressive chart there was indication of a separation with his partner (something about natal moon opposing natal sun) - are certain events already predestined?IP: Logged |
andstuff
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posted December 04, 2013 02:53 PM
Hi twinflame1914 and everyoneSomehow this thread caught my eye and frankly I have always found it unfair that some of us have these stories that make us sad and whatnot. Being denied the closeness of the only person in the world who feels right, being offered piles of random nobodies apparently to compensate and sending them walking and whatnot. And if truth be told more often than not we are better than those who don't have these experiences. We deserve this less than those who face no such things. And frankly I just don't feel like anything could possibly justify these nightmares we are exposed to. The outcome is never positive. There are always memories of failure that feel like a label visible to everyone. Some label of some kind of failure that feels like belonging to a second rate category perhaps. It is just not right. It's just impossible to believe this experience was well deserved and beneficial. I can't see how you people bring yourselves to believe so. Am I really wrong? IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted December 04, 2013 05:58 PM
What is the karma??If you loved him deeply in the past life and he was taken away from you the love you gave should've been repaid in that life or this one. Karmically speaking, there shouldn't be any pain in this life for love given in a past one. The karma for love is love. Unless...in a life previous to the past one you denied someone a true love. Then in the life after that you were made to pay by having your truest love snatch away. From where I sit, it appears the karma is already paid. You get to start this life with a clean slate in the relationship sphere. IP: Logged |
SparklingSag
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posted December 11, 2013 08:48 PM
I too had a karmic relationship with my aries ex. My astrologer said it was past life connection. This time it was a toxic hard relationship...he broke me but taught me so much in the process and I learnt self love and how to come through that.It wasn't over for two years or more and even came back for me this year! Even though we ended in 2011. I didn't let him in for third time and went on to meet Mr Pisces who was amazing, loving and complete opposite. Learn to come to terms with this relationship and let it go, know your worth, Sparkling IP: Logged |
MorpHnStorM
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posted December 18, 2013 05:08 AM
Random question, twinflame1914: what does the "1914" in your ID stand for/mean?
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LucieLemonade
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posted December 18, 2013 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by twinflame1914:
So us having a relationship together and having it work wouldn't be balancing karma?
Not if it means you are taking him away from his current relationship. Wouldn't you just be repeating what happened in the past, but opposite? IP: Logged |
AriesLilith
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posted December 20, 2013 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by iliketurtles:
when you can both walk away from it, totally at peace with one another. no anger, no bitterness, no resentment just be at peace with each other and (most importantly) within yourself. i think when there is no negative residual energy floating around even when the love is gone.
This is what I feel too, when I saw this topic.  Also, karmic ties might not always translate to relationships, but they can be there for us to learn important lessons. And as my astrology teacher said, we are meant to, after overcoming all the karma and lessons, love each other unconditionally, free from desires and only hoping the best for each other. Also, she said that ties are never severed even thought relationships could end. Everyone we know in our lives can be tied to us even thought our relationships with them can vary in nature, through different lives. Personally, I feel that we are all souls in journeys in this world we all are, all together in this "ocean". We learn with each other, form ties together, and pile up karma or love/positive feelings towards each other. We desire to be with each other coz we don't want to be alone, as we can't see how we are all connected actually (and it is so hard sometimes, to see this, since we are all humans). Fear is the oppositve of love, but when we are capable to acknowledge that love is more than relationships and the desire of them, we can find greater acceptance. IP: Logged |
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