posted March 04, 2014 02:58 PM            

This thread is inspired by what I heard about my mother.

My sister and I were conversing and she loosely mentioned how my Mom had gotten her heart broken by a guy before meeting my father.

Now it is true that my Dad was not my Mom's first choice(even we can see that), but it made me wonder.

She has her Venus in Capricorn conjunct Saturn and Mars in emotional Cancer opposing Saturn.

Also, she has her Moon in Taurus trine Venus, sextile Mars and trine Saturn.

Now with Capricorn, nothing seems easy and with Venus there, love can feel like a mountain that one must climb.And the marriage to my father has been anything but paradise.

Thing is, I can't believe that after all these years she still has her candle burning for the guy. That was over 30 years ago. Must be the mix of Taurus and Mars in Cancer I guess.

I think I know that , in her case, she didn't marry someone with whom she was madly in love with. She may have married my father for companionship and little else.

I am infatuated with someone currently that is lukewarm when responding. But i haven't felt that earth-shattering, ground breaking love yet.(Venus in Scorpio, Moon in Cancer and Mars in Libra)

posted March 05, 2014 03:02 PM            

Those who wait for "true love" might grow old waiting and if the true love isn't enlightened enough to see past the physical, they may pass likes ships in the night. Students of astrology understand that we can have many different combinations of strong connections with many different types of people and there are many soul mate relationships.

I know my daughter is certainly the truest love I have found thus far in this world. I still want to spend my life with an adult male companion who is also a best friend... someone who inspires me and gains inspiration from me as well. I will keep looking for the right fit... and exploring relationships gently as friends. I know what I want now. I'm not going to try to change anyone.

So, my answer to your question is this...

The longer you wait and the more you Know Thyself and understand what you really want in a companion, and the more "whole" you are as a person (because you have had so many experiences with so many people in life and have read and learned and spent time in meditation with your Highest Self) the closer you will get to knowing the right combination of energies for you. Whether that person is available or not remains to be seen, so do your best to be the best version of you as well so you can attract the quality person you seek.

I'm reasonably wise and intelligent, with both conventional and occult knowledge, and have over 40 years on this Earth so far this incarnation and that's my perspective. I look forward to additional perspectives as well.

posted March 13, 2014 06:36 PM            

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Sometimes I think that is "the million dollar question" because too many people don't wait to find out, for one reason or another.

People are so scared to be alone that they hurry up and marry. Humans are so geared toward reproduction/animal instinct that they must create "pair bonds" and mate in their youth and then remain together due to socially accepted norms and fear of the unknown.

Family is also a very nice thing... so even if you haven't found your "true love" in a man, you may stay because you love each other and you are a family.

Those who wait for "true love" might grow old waiting and if the true love isn't enlightened enough to see past the physical, they may pass likes ships in the night.

Students of astrology understand that we can have many different combinations of strong connections with many different types of people and there are many soul mate relationships.

I know my daughter is certainly the truest love I have found thus far in this world. I still want to spend my life with an adult male companion who is also a best friend... someone who inspires me and gains inspiration from me as well.

I will keep looking for the right fit... and exploring relationships gently as friends. I know what I want now. I'm not going to try to change anyone.

So, my answer to your question is this...

The longer you wait and the more you Know Thyself and understand what you really want in a companion, and the more "whole" you are as a person (because you have had so many experiences with so many people in life and have read and learned and spent time in meditation with your Highest Self) the closer you will get to knowing the right combination of energies for you.

Whether that person is available or not remains to be seen, so do your best to be the best version of you as well so you can attract the quality person you seek.

I'm reasonably wise and intelligent, with both conventional and occult knowledge, and have over 40 years on this Earth so far this incarnation and that's my perspective. I look forward to additional perspectives as well.

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Very well said I must add. Really!!

I think that the "rush" to find someone(and in some cases "anyone") to get married to and have babies with is, as you put, some kind of human clock wired into our system that tells us that "we have no time".

That youth, virility and beauty can dissipate like dust on a windy day.So we do our very best to take advantage of the opportunity sprung upon us whilst we can. Albeit being ill experienced and not really knowing ourselves enough to ever know how to love another.

When we are young, our bodies are physically immature and supple( we term that "beauty") and we tend to have no clue whatsoever about ourselves, others as well as what we are "supposed" to do on earth.

But still, in this confusing time of self-discovery and adventure, we are expected to have gotten it "right" by the time that we are 20 years of age(sometimes even younger).

So we then settle into relationships that may be borne out of infatuation, idealism or, to be rash, practical consideration of the biological clock within and how life must be kept "moving" and must get "done".

But as we age and our true selves come to the surface, we start to realize the trickery of being young.

Though many of us would love to assume the envelope of youth, it is less likely that the same number of us would abandon whom we've come to be at the expense of it.

As I turned 30 myself, the story of my mother fascinated me. Why is it so important for one to find a true romantic love?

Shouldn't love, as you put it, come in various forms that are less absolute? Does that make it less "true"/incomplete if one does not have a romantic inclination towards the one they profess to love?

Knowing myself now, I have come to realize that marriage at my age is unlikely. I'll have a better chance when I turn 40 as I am just not sold on the options I currently have at my disposal.

posted March 17, 2014 04:49 PM            

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I think I know that, in her case, she didn't marry someone with whom she was madly in love with. She may have married my father for companionship and little else.

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I see A LOT of this. I think the people who marry the person they are deeply in love with, someone who touches their very soul and actually make it work and last, are very lucky.. and rare.

posted April 06, 2014 01:58 PM            

I think a lot of people aren't married to their true love, some are. Some people reunite with lost loves later in life and it either works or it's disappointing. Some have the courage to leave their marriages for their true love, some don't want to risk it in case it doesn't work out.

It would be awesome if circumstances and/or timing permitted that, and even MORE awesome if one met their true love in the first place.

posted April 14, 2014 07:46 AM            

I believe what happens is similar to what happens even to best friends. My ex best friends all ended up with people who they never argue with because there was just never enough intensity between them for one or both to care enough to get jealous, to want to change the other person's self-destructive behavior, or to get too clingy...etc the list pretty much goes on. Same thing with me, all my current best friends are people I barely care about, but I barely argue with because I just dont CARE enough to bother with arguing. Do I ever get jealous? Absolutely not! There is nothing to be jealous about...if they want to leave, go ahead! Baha, doesnt make me nervous in the least because I rly just dont care enough.

And my ex-best friends and I definitely all had soulmate level chemistry and attachment but they also ended up with best friends who it's much more bland with (who they would even Complain! To me about. And i ended up with people who i would complain to Them about lolol). And when I check their astrology I see that too, they just dont care as much about each other.

It's tough. And I can say it's one of the most frustrating things about life in a way. For some reason ppl who rly care about each other always find a way to argue, while with someome there's less fire with, there's just nothing to light a spark with, little less an argument.

posted April 18, 2014 04:58 PM            

But really, do we see how those characters lived after walking away into the sunlight or catching plane to somewhere exotic?

Why? Because real life is boring. Real life has kids that need feeding, a dog that wants to be walked, laundry to be done and bills to be paid. There is no romance in that.

I'm not one who believes in fairytale endings (Venus conjunct Saturn) but I sometimes think that the "mystery" and "wonder" or what could have been, is far more enticing an idea than what we have to deal with.

Marry someone you will always like. Because love is passion and passion does end. And "like" can always be revisited and renewed.

Give me someone whom challenges me to love them unconditionally by being so "out of the box" from what my "list" says that I should be drawn to -yet nevertheless drawn. And I am going to give it a chance.

Soul mates don't always come with feelings of butterflies, but many times a feeling that everything will be okay...

There are no "mistakes" , not unless you count making them as a part of your journey.

So "correction" of those "mistakes", in essence, is then what you set out to do in the 1st place and that makes those "mistakes" all the more enriching and wonderful when discovered right? Because they bring joy and happiness when complete.

posted April 30, 2014 03:29 PM            

Personally, I don't believe in true love and stuff. I feel we are conditioned to believe in such things and that our ultimate aim is to reproduce (physically) and find out why we are here followed by other questions like where's our next stop, etc (spiritually). Relationships can be either distractions or guide you in your journey. In today's world, they are 99% of the time distractions.

posted April 30, 2014 10:10 PM            

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Relationships can be either distractions or guide you in your journey. In today's world, they are 99% of the time distractions.

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posted May 01, 2014 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by depth:
My mom has Venus in Capricorn trine Moon in Taurus trine Pluto in Virgo and she fell in love twice and married both the guys. She's always married up so I sometimes wonder if she married out of convenience. But then, when I see my parents together, I assume she married out of love. They have been together for 35+ years.

Personally, I don't believe in true love and stuff. I feel we are conditioned to believe in such things and that our ultimate aim is to reproduce (physically) and find out why we are here followed by other questions like where's our next stop, etc (spiritually). Relationships can be either distractions or guide you in your journey. In today's world, they are 99% of the time distractions.

That doesn't stop me from seeing guys. I need companionship because that's how most human beings are brought up. I'm afraid of spending the rest of my life alone so I will marry. I'm afraid I would get bored in an ashram so I don't want to follow the ascetic's path. There are other ways of finding answers and I want to do it the fun way while living my life.

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Oh my goodness. Really????

I value your interesting point of view, but I guess I'm still too much of a romantic at heart to believe that people that I love are "distractions".

The question of "Why am I here?" and "who am I really?" have been asked for aeons and will continue to be debated long after I am done being buried.

I watch the flowers bloom and lions playfully wrestle and I honestly do wonder, "Is it not for the better that we leave such questions well enough alone?"

Why I am here? To have FUN. That is all.

posted May 03, 2014 12:36 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Since I don't intend to reproduce my luv will be real and pure if I ever love someone romantically

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Yes, I agree with you.

I think once your "intention" for love is to reproduce, you have missed the story altogether.

The reason that children are part of the 5th house is because they are tangible statements of "joy", "ease" and "splendor".

And they are supposed to bring that part of us for a good many years- before we have squeezed it out of them with restrictions of conditional love(amongst other things).

But I guess, with society the way it is, they have taken on the Saturnine role;big "burdens", big "responsibility" and a "contract" you enter into for life etc. And sometimes, these innocent creatures, are seen as a "nuisance"(think about that)