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Unmoved
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posted July 29, 2008 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Hello.

For background, there are those who know me well on this forum who know my 'capabilities' if I may call them that but because of the country of my birth, I refused to get myself trained to truly get to the depths of the other realm.

For years I have been speaking to this orb of blue light and it says it is my child. Now, this may sound strange to some but it is not if you can detect energies. At first it didn't come to me often but lately the light has been telling me not to worry, that it is going to be made manifest into flesh soon. But it says it can't do so until I can see because it is meant to come not only for me but for me and someone else through me.

It just came now to surround me with love and told me without words that it will be with me soon.

I am not maternal. I am single. I am not in a state where I want a child. It makes me afraid to be a mother but my unborn child, who by the way is older and wiser than me tells me that I should not be afraid. Apparently there is a triad that needs to come together for the light to be flesh.

I've always thought that I would adopt. Children scare me senseless. Anyway, it told me to wait and not leave yet because it, my child, is my brother. It is a male energy.

does any of this make sense to anyone? Has anyone had this experience.

LEXX, PeaceAngel, anyone!

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posted July 30, 2008 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiLover75     Edit/Delete Message
No I haven't had this experience but I believe it is entirely possible. I got the idea myself a few months ago when I feared that there was a possibility I could be on the brink of conceiving when I didn't yet feel ready to. The 'easy' answer would have been to get the mornng after pill, but I don't like messing with my hormones. So instead I felt like I could easily connect with my future child if I wanted to, therefore I meditated and then asked my future baby if he/she would please wait until I am ready... right after I did that, I felt that I would not be pregnant. And I wasn't. But now I'm vaguely worried that I might lose my chance to have a child somehow... so, I don't know, maybe I feel like talking to the unborn child again...

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posted July 30, 2008 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for sharing your experience. I suppose we know better to deem it impossible to speak to our unborn children, right? I find your experience similar to mine in a way. I am just curious to know why the energy comes often now. I'm also not ready to have children. I feel that I have too much to learn for such responsibility. I'm just wondering if it really my child or some importer to be honest. Thank you once again.

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posted July 30, 2008 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
In my opinion and experience one's unborn can talk to one, but only after being conceived.
A deja vu of seeing your child is fine.
But....I do not like the sound of this "thing" you are experiencing. Again in my experience/opinion if it were a good thing, it would not be glamouring you with promises, and acting older and wiser, and also talking as it is doing of triads and brother and all.
Sorry dear but something just does not feel right to me here. Why isn't he in the "holding place"? A spirit waiting to incarnate has no business hanging around in this fashion. If you had said you had just heard it, felt it, whatever, and not been talking to it for years, I'd be less concerned. This spirit has obviously not been
where it should have been between lifetimes and has not been in the learning place, but has been Earthbound. The "blue" orb manifestation is not a standard way for one awaiting incarnation to be appearing.
Are you still not getting enough sleep?
And do you remember what was happening in your life and how you felt when this "thing" first appeared?
What brings in the manifestation?
When?
Had anyone you knew died at the time you began experiencing this?
And I mean friend, family, or foe.

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posted July 30, 2008 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
OK...some questions and observations based on what you said:

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It just came now to surround me with love and told me without words that it will be with me soon.

Did it radiate love or was that your emotion? How do you know it was love and not a desire? How did it actually feel?
Also you said it spoke without words.
Yest later seem to say that it actually speaks, rather in depth I'd say...which further leaves me not feeling good about its presence.

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the light has been telling me not to worry,
Seems rather pompous and assuming for a spirit wanting to incarnate, for your good to be saying. Indications there of let me into your body and everything will be fine! Not a good sign in my opinion. Sounds like subtle bribery to me. Wonder what is its true agenda?
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that it is going to be made manifest into flesh soon.
The last time I heard a line like that, and the following:
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But it says it can't do so until I can see because it is meant to come not only for me but for me and someone else through me.
[ Was a spirit trying to get in by any means to be born, including rape, and not for the best interest of the "chosen" mother to host it.
Did it actually say those things to you in words?

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but my unborn child, who by the way is older and wiser than me tells me that I should not be afraid.
What makes you feel it is firstly...YOUR unborn child, when you are not carrying one yet? Why do you say it is older and wiser than you? Why do you feel it will fix your troubles and not to worry or be afraid? Beware of "things" which tell you that you are chosen, tell you to trust them, let on that they are older and wiser, and insist they will be made flesh soon despite YOUR life plans.
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Apparently there is a triad that needs to come together for the light to be flesh.
A triad? Only one soul per body. What is this triad? Did it tell you this?

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it told me to wait and not leave yet because it, my child, is my brother. It is a male energy.
Do not leave because it is best you stay or you will have to repeat lessons not learned in this lifetime. As for not leaving for its sake....because you think or have been told he is your brother, just does not add up.
What about you and your life and plans? This thing seems to not be thinking of what is best for you.
Its insistence that it is going to made flesh soon despite your wishes just sounds way too sinister to me.
Sorry if my replies are not what you want to hear.
Does it ever appear when you are not tired or suffering from sleep deprivation? Does it ever appear when things are going good in your life? Under what circumstances does it show up?
I highly suggest you interrogate it.
Do not assume anything with it.


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posted July 30, 2008 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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I'm also not ready to have children. I feel that I have too much to learn for such responsibility. I'm just wondering if it really my child or some imposter to be honest.

Now think that over very carefully....and also consider why something supposedly older and wiser would be trying to beguile you againt your better judgment?
And more you said:
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I've always thought that I would adopt. Children scare me senseless.

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I am not maternal. I am single. I am not in a state where I want a child. It makes me afraid to be a mother

I do not have a good feeling about this "thing" trying. pressuring, cajoling, promising, making bold statement and all....

This is not right in my opinion.
Not for you.
It cares only about what it wants but tries to glamour you into thinking you should become the vessel for its rather urgent manifestation into the physical.
A truly evolved soul would find a vessel more suited to being ready and naturally willing. No bribery, or trying so hard would be needed for it to be let in.
I quoted you as saying "imposter" not "importer" as you had typed.
Which did you mean?
What changes did you notice in your life once it first appeared?
And is this when you began having trouble sleeping? Have any other male entities made contact with you during this same time span?
Have any or all felt familar?

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posted July 30, 2008 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Additionally...
Again from my experiences with discarnates...

One of the tricks imposters use is to make their target unsure and suicidal, and depressed or afraid etcetera.
Then they appear all nice nice and pretend to be the one to make their target be not afraid, telling that person to not be afraid, making bold statements and implying..if you let me in and I know you will because I told you so....you are chosen...everything will be wonderful......all your fears and worries will end....when I come into you.....
Yet on the flip side are also the same being who caused all the fear, worry, lack of sleep, anxiety, indecision, etcetera, whilst appearing in dreams and visions often as a man to a woman, and a woman to a man. Quite often they are usually very charismatic, whether acting sweet, kind, or even sinister somehow.
If that act fails, the next step is trying the baby angle....during or after such encounters.
This is one of the oldest tricks in the books for a spirit up to no good to do.
And whether the mother vessel survives giving them physical life matters not one whit to such entities.
BTW..the blue orb or blue light is a common vehicle for these types of self serving entities.
True Human babies do not use that method.
The future mother has deja vus before conception, like seeing them older playing.
The real child can do gentle dream messages after conception..after the 3rd. month of gestation.

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posted July 30, 2008 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry to have gone on so much.
But I am very concerned about your life and well being.

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posted July 30, 2008 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you LEXX. I asked for you specifically because I was not looking for romance but for truth.

After my rape I did conceive a child remember, but it did not live. It begun showing itself, this thing one evening when I was feeling guilty for letting adults decide for me to abort the child even though the father was one of the rapists. I was in pain, at 16, when I didn't understand that there was no guilt to feel for what had happened, feeling like a murderer when it appeared during my fasts.

it came around the same time I began having trouble sleeping.

this entity speaks to me in a way that is clear but not with words nor visuals but in a way that leaves me understanding it.

the triad is 3 adults, a male and 2 women including myself. I am suspicious of it but because I am not trained but I see things, i don't know about waiting places and such. I just feel and see things.

Now it comes whenever. I was having a good day yesterday and was about to sleep. I was naturally feeling sleepy without drugs which is rare. It came, gave me a weird hug, told me it was coming soon and left me smiling.

of course because I do not trust too much in things that appear to me because I don't know them, I knew that I had to ask or speak about it before some sinister thing sucks me in.

also, during It's appearance lately, I have been having a recurring dream for the last 3 weeks about two guys. One I went to school with, and it is someone I never took note of. I had to look through my things to remember his name. The other man is a buddhist man, powerful and respected who I seldom speak to but who communicates casually with me once in a while to say our greetings and visa versa.

other than my dark thoughts, I have been better than you are used to me being LEXX. I have taken every step to make sure that this is not the effects of sleep deprivation.

all I can think of is that this is sinister. I'd rather go there for safety of my being.

i'm typing from my mobile so I will answer your questions as I reread.

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posted July 30, 2008 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved

i've read everything you and LEXX have said here.

i think the first thing that you need to do is clarify for yourself the intentions of this being - for certain. it's natural to fear something you don't understand, especially when you are very tired and don't have the clarity that good sleep provides. my suggestion is to surround yourself with white light - for protection and also will make any negativity go away and repel it. also surround your surroundings, room, home, etc - whatever makes you feel safe. then ask your spirit guides/angels to keep all negativity away from you and also to protect you if you want. and just outright say - that you do not accept any negativity near you or into your life in any way.

i'm also heeding what LEXX is saying to you because - you called out to us both and he was brought to you first - so i believe that was by divine guidance.

the brother and triad information doesn't make sense to me. just something doesn't ring right about it - at all. and as LEXX said - imposing itself upon you - you have free will and do not have to be "told". we all have guides that gently and lovingly guide us. but it's a totally different energy.

you need to trust your own intuition with the energy of it and the truth in what it says. if it doesn't seem right to you then it's not. anything that comes to you that is good and positive will feel that way. it will not impose itself upon you - instead will only guide you without judgement or its own will. and you have free will. so you can choose not to experience this or have this around you. if you do see this presence again - you will notice it's light dims - each time. tell it you do not accept it. it will vanish - if you don't believe in it or validate it it has no life force. but i think it will cease now.

also you said you have these capabilities but are not trained. i learnt through my loving guides and also through the human ones they met me up with along the way. there are people here and at other sites and many other resources that can help guide you if you want to, when you're ready.

the only negative beings i have experienced are the ones that were afraid and the energy of fear i thought at the time was mine, was actually theirs. this happened when i was really little and didn't understand and couldn't discern. and also because i was very tired because i wouldn't let myself sleep. the only blue lights i have personally experienced have been loving spirit guides (mother mary when i was ill one night, has a very light blue orb) or angels.

really do try to get more sleep. it's so important and it will help you - even if it doesn't feel like it.

i do feel that this will stop now. but you need to protect yourself so that you feel safe inside yourself. please sleep. and surround yourself with love because that's what you need to be attracting to you because that's what you deserve.

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posted July 30, 2008 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I even asked the buddhist guy why I was dreaming of him everyday. He hasn't responded. I can't ask the other guy because I haven't seen him since high school. They are always together in the dreams but I know that they do not know each other because they are not in the same circles.

Back to the matter at hand, I have been experiencin a sinking feeling for a while now. Whenever I feel this feeling, i fear that someone is in danger. If I have this feeling with a dream, without fail that person is usually in physical or spiritual pain and I always make contact. And always, the person always asks how I knew and I tell them that it was a dream.

Now, I'm having this entity around me, the dreams and the sinking feeling all at once and I am overwhelmed. I can't make sense of any of it. It never happens at once. I am not fasting. I'm not healthy for it. I am on a medical sleeping regime so I sleep but not naturally. And soon after posting this, I had a visitation from an antagonistic entity, after the visit from my loving baby. Which makes me feel uneasy.

I have been taking actions to get rid of these things, and maybe, again, they are angry about it. The angry one came to me at a friend's place because they can't step onto my own property easily lately due to the work I have been doing. And this all started when I left my place and came to the city, where I am now.

the paralysis occured as you know it does but it was more like irritating me that harming me. Getting my energy through the shock factor as they always do. I am telling you this for you to get the whole picture.

my house at the coast has become a bit of a fortress and now I'm out of there and I think I'm vulnerable. I meant Imposter not importer. I know they come in all costumes hence I asked for an eye clearer than mine. Hence I posted. I have been taking medication so I know I can't discern what is what.

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posted July 30, 2008 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you PeaceAngel. That's all I did last night, get a visit, wake up, reinforce my energy field. I slept in 2 hour stints because each time, I would surround myself with the light and love shield, sleep and then a few hours later I was being suffocated. There was a point where I refused to sleep at night but since a few months ago I decided to sleep like normal people. It is just so tiring to deal with this rubbish every night. So, i became nocturnal until recently because these things were ruling my routine.

I am sleeping but under medication which just feels like my body is sleeping and not my entire being. Which helps a little but it makes my reserves low to be medicated.

anyway, I'm prepared. I'm going to sleep at night. I'm going to talk back today if I get visited. They do go away when confronted but I'd like to know what I'm talking to.

it said, it will become manifest into flesh when the 3 people me this woman and man see each other. I didn't get a weird threesome vibe. It was more like, this baby will get born when I meet a certain couple. I'm actually tired now so I'm going to lighten my heart. My guitar attracts good beings so I'll play my guitar and meditate to emergize because last night was draining.

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posted July 30, 2008 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
I shall respond more when I get a mnoment to re read all of this.
As to blue being good...or angels...
most know my feelings on that issue. Only evil entities posing as love, light, and good have I encountered as being blue, and a Mary imposter of which is one of the most common imposters folks experience.
They want it so much that they believe and never interrogate or question these "blue" manifestations, and or Marys.
I did...and was attacked (with witnesses) some years back when I was told by a Mary and blue orbs and blue/gold angels that I was chosen, and would bear twins...
I was like..yeah...something not right here.
I tranced out and confronted them all. My body temperature dropped to 89 degrees and I had seizures...they were VERY upset I did not believe them...and discovered what they really were. Not human, not from here and more even sinister things. That is why I say angels that are blue/gold and or Biblical like are evil, and the so called light...and blue specifically...electric or glowing, or soft neon. Never trust any entity or presence that seems very lovely loving and wants you to trust and love them...automatically without them giving rational explanations and allowing you to completely and thoroughly interrogate them!

GOOD and God do not mind questions...but trickster evil does not like it one bit!

BTW, I used to love angelic things, and blue orbs until I learned otherwise!
Oh the narrow bad paths those ones led me down. BTW I blessedly miscarried the "promised" twins at 11 1/2 weeks. I experienced horrific nighmares whilst pregnant with them. One was that they kept saying I would die to give them life but be with the angels then and become an angel too.
Bullsh!t was my first reaction.
I know what a true God experience is and none of the bluey/goldies/beautiful/glamouring/light/bright ones are of the true God.
God needs no such flash and show to speak with us and us with God.
Beware of those who do need to put on a pretty show all light and lovely!
Humans have been tricked into thinking ugly or dark in color is bad, and light and beautiful is good. Not so, and what better way for evil to gain hold then to be exactly what humans want them to be...angelic and lovely or posing as some holy figure (said to be holy by human law not God's law and choice!)
If I sound nuts to some..oh well, I know what I have experienced.
I f I have offend or upset anyone..sorry...I can only speak from my own personal experiences and what I have observed happening to others who experienced very similar encounters with false good.

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posted July 30, 2008 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
As for guides, angels and so forth..my advice is speak only to God. Unless one is an adept and sure of their own self identity, one can be tricked by things posing as guides or good angelic things. Usually it is just dead humans
on an ego trip existing in a self delusion, thinking they are guides etcetera..and are often fairly harmless, like talking to a neighbor. But their advice is nothing one cannot get just by posting on a board or talking with good friends. But their are also non human entities who are out for what is good for them, not humans.
Funny thing is the 3 movie series Prophecy came a tiny bit to how it is, but screwed up the names of who was good and who was evil. So did Constatine.
Talk with God..that is the best thing in my opinion.
Kinda like Neal Donald Walsch did in Conversations with God.
It is my opinion he was talking to that part within himself, that doorway to God from within.

Interestingly the following are ANAGRAMS of each other!

GOD WITHIN

HI GOD TWIN

Food for though!


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posted July 30, 2008 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Being untrained I would rather not call upon entities because I might just be deceived. So, yes, I will go to the source God. I will not call a Lord, or any name but God. I will use what I know that which has kept me alive thus far.

I'm too aware of things wanting to use my body and now they got bored with that and they want me to spawn for them.

so, Yes. It got to me unprepared yesterday. Today, if I get a visit, we talk because I'm sick of this. LEXX I know what you mean. They get angry when asked for truth if they are visiting for their own benefit.

I just hope that there is no human involved in this because I'm am not sure if it is right but i'm sending things back where they came from. I'm not ready for it, good or bad.

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posted July 30, 2008 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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I will not call a Lord, or any name but God.
Very wise dear Lady! God does not need a title such as LORD or Sire, or Almighty, whatever.
GOD IS SIMPLY GOD.
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I just hope that there is no human involved in this because I'm am not sure if it is right but i'm sending things back where they came from. I'm not ready for it, good or bad.
It is never wrong to do a "return to sender" so to speak. If it is bad they will get what they deserve for trying to do you wrong.
If it is good, the opportunity will come forth at the proper time. This is not the proper time and your logic and wisdom and yes God, has let you know that. So by that token I sincerely feel it was not for your good.
Other agendas were at play.
Real Love and True Blessings and Protection to you dear Unmoved!
Love
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posted July 30, 2008 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you LEXX. My rock you always are. Many blessings to you.

There is also someone else I have been dreaming of who isn't buddhist to my knowledge but I think it is because he is unwell so I understand why I am dreaming of him. His dreams are also not suspect.

This buddhist guy I'm talking of is the one who told me that aliens want to make contact with me. I am aware that dreaming of him could be my fears at work so all things are considered.

Anyways, I feel stronger now. I was ambushed last night and I think that made me lose my cool. Or I am feeling your thoughts with me, all that have helped with this issue. I thank you all from my deepest place of love for taking time to help.

I did get my chi higher and have been doing so all day. I decided to lay off some of the medication for better clarity. Now I am about to go into my constant prayer, getting more energy, sending some out to those that are unwell and sending the bugs back. I was thinking of sending it back tenfold but if it is something bad i'm returning, i would be hurting someone if a human is involved so I'll return it as is with thanks because I feel that I do not need or recognize the gift if it is a gift. This means, as you said LEXX, that it was not time.

what a day. Maybe on another day I will expand more but I think the next process is now between me and them. Thank you for your guidance.

Namaste

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posted July 30, 2008 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
LEXX

i'm sorry that you feel that way and that you experience things that way. i believe that we experience what we believe. i don't personally believe in evil entities and don't experience them. but i can see when others do they do, so........

the lights (of all colours) and beings and energies that i experience are only of love.

love and peace to you.

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posted July 30, 2008 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm... Personally, I'm not going to judge any entity but I'm obviously not ready to communicate with them or it, if they can make me so defensive.

yes, I fear that which I don't know. Not often but when it comes to such I do. Although I am a logical person, I have been allowed to see and experience things that aren't logical. I haven't learned to make peace with both sides. Maybe I am in the middle of the process.

i also know that my mind is incredibly powerful. I have the ability to manifest things very well so this could be my fears manifested but... I dunno. I seriously do not know.

And my logic which is black and white sometimes finds it hard to deal with the gray paradox of reality.

Am I nuts? As far as earth standards are concerned, I am very sane. Why do I see the things I see? Is it because my mind wanted to? Well, I saw a friend on Monday, did I manifest her too? Manifesting a friend is fine. Manifesting things I know not of makes no sense. How do I manifest something of which I don't have a concept?

ok. I know I'm throwing my toys and feelin sorry for myself right now. I am looking for answers that are in me and that angers me because it brings me back to a point of the pointlessness of life. Which makes me wonder about the point of surrounding myself with love when every thing is love.

i have just become confused again. So I know what that means to me. It means that I am low in energy again. So, right now I simply do not care about this thing. Maybe after I sleep I'll care. Blue, red or no light entities are all the same to me right now. It's a matter of point of view. Thing is, I see all kinds even ugly ones but I'm not talking to any of them for now. I am ignoring all. All or nothing. And I choose nothing. I am simply tired of dreaming of people in pain, seeing things and all that. What the heck do they want? Maybe if 1 of these dreams were clear or 1 of these things spoke instead of being mysterious, I wouldnt feel like this.

let me apologise now for my rant. Sorry.

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posted July 30, 2008 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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Namaste

Umdali akubusise (zulu for "may the creator bless you all")



Beautiful Unmoved!
And no apologies needed! Rant on as needed!

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posted July 30, 2008 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Oh boy. I just know that I'm going to feel stupid about this when I wake up. I won't erase what I wrote because someone may learn from it but I already regret speaking about this. I never talk about this publically but something said I must. Hopefully there is a greater good to all this. As for how I know things that I shouldn't know, I'll just blame it all on temporary insanity.

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posted July 30, 2008 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
PeaceAngel
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i'm sorry that you feel that way and that you experience things that way. i believe that we experience what we believe.


Oh hold on there dear!
First off I believed in good angels!
I had angel checks, angel t-shirts, angel scarves, curtains, bumper stickers, ball pens, shower curtain, bedding, bells, caledars, you name it! Angels angels angels!!!!!!!!!!
Then one day in the presence of witnesses I went into deep immersion trance to seek them out. They had always come to me. I followed their advice without question and believed them.
I found them. They were not happy and I was beyond shocked that they were not as I had been led to believe. My body temperature dropped, my blood pressure dropped...lights in the room went crazy! There was much more.
So I must disagree with you! I LOVED ANGELS BEFORE I WENT TO FIND THEM AND THEY SHOWED WHAT THEY REALLY WERE! Believe me I did not expect that which I experienced!
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i don't personally believe in evil entities and don't experience them. but i can see when others do they do, so........
I do not believe in evil spirits but spirits who would harm others or use them for their own agendas. And until that event believed angels to be good and for the well being of humanity. I hope you get lucky and never have your cozy belief in no evil and all angel things are good challenged by an experience you did not expect because you believe in good as I once did.
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the lights (of all colours) and beings and energies that i experience are only of love.
Again, good luck to you. I once felt exactly as you do until I encountered them in their "hive or spider web of crystal light and stars".
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love and peace to you.
Love and Peace to you too and may you never encounter
"them".

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posted July 30, 2008 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
unmoved

you are amongst compassionate people who want to help you. there is no judgement here - not from anyone.

even going by what LEXX said about god - bypass all spirits then and go straight to god. ask god for direct intervention and help. with everything - keeping negativity away from you, getting sleep, healing from the past, and love for yourself. and also to stop seeing and experiencing the things you do if you want to. you can shut that down if you want to.

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posted July 30, 2008 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
The True God is All

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posted July 30, 2008 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
LEXX

everything that i have read from you has always been loving and of the highest wisdom and compassion, with a desire to bring good and love to the lives of those you touch. and that's how i see you. so it is easy to respect your expressions even if i don't personally agree or relate to them. we have had different experiences (and also some the same) which lead us to think, believe, expect and create differently.

i too hope that i don't ever experience any of the negative beings you have. i always live by the policy that you never know and anything is possible. one thing i do believe for certain is that the power of love is far greater than any fear.

EDIT: i just wanted to add that because you have experienced something differently doesn't negate the experiences that others have had. if god is all then the beings of love that are created by god are part of that all. i see that god is love, therefore, his creations must also be of love. or evolving towards, at the very least. but even still, the are made of it even if they are not yet aware of it. all spirits - including ones incarnated in the flesh for now.

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