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posted September 16, 2011 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Pluto in the 3rd
Are you outspoken?


Yeah I most definitely can be
I used to be extremely secretive and kept my strong opinions to myself. I think I've bottled them up so much that every time I got something to say I just say it without much tact or diplomacy. I think the difference with this now is in my natal I have Libra on the 3rd but by I think age 6 or 7 it progressed into Scorpio and now I'm really starting to become more decisiveness and say what's true rather than what will keep the peace.
People get annoyed with my bluntness but they usually respect me for my honesty and get over my sometimes harsh words after a while.
I never mean it out of malice. I do not try to hurt others, but I need to tell them the truth or else it eats away at me and I don't want that anymore. I also don't want to be taken advantage of because of my natural naivety and faith in others. Pluto here is making me be straightforward and to cut through the crap

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posted September 16, 2011 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
R of 11 in 6
Your group activity will be of a service oriented nature and it will be practical such as building houses for people or working in a soup kitchen. Have you ever done this type of work?
If you are to be in a group,perhaps the best one would be a service type of one.


I never have but it is definitely something I would do. During free time I do like to help people and I am quite service oriented.
I could see myself one day spending my days off doing charity work or one thing I've always thought of was having a big vegetable garden and to give away fresh vegetables and fruit to loved ones and others who can't afford to eat well.

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posted September 16, 2011 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No offense taken, Ami

Yeah I have always been ashamed of them only because I hated the fact that someone would view me this way. I always thought that people would focus on negative things rather than the positive things and I couldn't bare the thought of someone defining me by my flaws. But I'm starting to realize that not all people are this way, I know I don't define others by their faults and anyone who does this to me they are not a great friend.
Besides, no matter what you do you're going to face criticism so it's important to come to terms with it then move on.


Brilliant point on your part. It helps to see the reason under i cuz my mother drove me crazy cuz she could never have real flaws.

I had to be perfect,too,as a result lol

Grrr
Want to put that behind me now.

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posted September 16, 2011 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OK
For the 5th house, I would say that you could be a player. You do not have some of my fave player things with your 5th house, though lol

This part of life is super important to you. Your goal is to have that fun, creative part of your personality come forward.
You may want flings rather than a serious relationship.
Your service could be of a fun nature like playing with kids etc.

Saturn,here, makes it hard to access the 5th house energy.
This would mitigate against a player.

Tell me about your 5th house and how it works in your life.

I will be back after you answer those.


A player? Nooo not me
I do love to have fun and pride myself on it. I think all of my hobbies are strongly affected by Uranus and Neptune. I love technology, astronomy, and astrology. I spend a lot of time doing things relating to spirituality. I love the arts; like paintings, photography, and plays. I love anything with a surreal look and feel.

Right now I am in a serious and quite happy relationship. We both allow eachother freedom of expression and ability to live our own individual lifes so I don't feel quite as stifled as I normally would being tied down. I don't thnk I could feel contentment with anyone else so yes I would normally prefer the single life wherre I could go out and have fun.
Capricorn and Saturn kind of stunt this creative expression but it also helps to add practicality and stability to all of my passions and relationships.

I do love children but I'm not too worried about becoming a mother. I befriend kids and most of them love being around me and find me fun. I think it would be really interesting to own a day care or to work as a kindergarden teacher. Or eventeach art to children. But I am bad when it comes to discplining them so that's something I would have to work on for sure. You would think with Saturn here I would discipline children easily but not so much.

My mom has Saturn in the 5th house and the one way I know this brings her and I together is the fact that we both have had inhibiting situations surrounding us that makes it hard to have fun and also makes it difficult to express out fun sides.
My mom also lost her first child and I worry this may be from Saturn in the 5th.

I have Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune here and I've always wondered if maybe it could contribute to either not being able to have children of having a child with special mental and/or physical needs.
I'm not saying this WILL cause that but I wonder if it's possible.

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posted September 16, 2011 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Brilliant point on your part. It helps to see the reason under i cuz my mother drove me crazy cuz she could never have real flaws.

I had to be perfect,too,as a result lol

Grrr
Want to put that behind me now.


That is so terrible I'm so sorry you went through that. I couldn't imagine because my parents are both so accepting and were quite the opposite--they were proud of our unique traits and bragged about them to their friends.

I would never expect my children (if I ever have any) to be perfect. Your mom must have some other influence rather than Aqua. How many Aqua planets does she have? I guess the fear of having base emotions or not fitting in might be also directed at her children too so I guess that could be why she wanted you to be perfect.

I think it is important lifelesson for you. It was hard to go through that with a parent but I'm certain that it has helped you being so understanding and accepting of others. It probably had made you a great person. So please try to learn from it and better your life and the lives of others.
Let it influence you for the better not the worse

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posted September 16, 2011 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ruler of the 5th ins the 12th shows loss of a child.
That is interesting about Saturn there, about that it is hard to let loose. That makes perfect sense.

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posted September 16, 2011 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will do aspects,next. Did you ever check asteroids.If you do, put them on a separate chart and a separate thread, too,please.

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posted September 16, 2011 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will be back, later.

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posted September 16, 2011 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ruler of the 5th ins the 12th shows loss of a child.
That is interesting about Saturn there, about that it is hard to let loose. That makes perfect sense.

Yeah that makes sense (ruler of the 5th in 12th) do yo know of any other placements? My moms fifth is in the 2nd. But that's steering off topic here lol...

I am going to think on that for a while.

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posted September 16, 2011 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I will do aspects,next. Did you ever check asteroids.If you do, put them on a separate chart and a separate thread, too,please.

Okay I will do that. Which asteroids would you prefer?

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posted September 16, 2011 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well start with the "normal" ones which AStrodient uses. Then add Child, Chaos, Wisdom, Nessus, Dejanaria, any names which are important to you(this is wild when you find it)
Eros, Sappho, Cassanova, Eris
If things don't touch,they don't matter.

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posted September 16, 2011 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to finish your natal,first.I will look on a separate thread for asteroids,though.

I will link the way to look for them and guidelines

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posted September 16, 2011 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 16, 2011 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have an almost Fire Void. Are you attracted to strong Fire men?

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posted September 16, 2011 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are low in water, too. When I see low in water, I feel sad. I love water. To me ,the hardest void would be water.

What is your relationship with water/feelings/crying /emotions
I have an earth void.This is the easiest,I think.
It still is a little freaky cuz I don't feel very grounded.

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posted September 16, 2011 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tomorrow, I will do aspects.

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posted September 17, 2011 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will do hard aspects, first. Then,easy. Then, quincunx's, the aspects of transformation.

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posted September 17, 2011 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in 12th square Pluto in 2nd

Your venus is prolly your hardest part of your chart. We discussed this before. It makes you very raw and feeling the desire to hide under the bed ,rather than deal with how raw you can feel in love relationships. Is this summarized ,right?

Pluto in the 2nd shows lots of ups and downs in life, materially.

I would put these together to say that perhaps material deprivations have made it scarier for you to be real and open with your loving nature.

Also,do you feel you have to choose between money and love?
I would pose that as being what the square may represent.Do you feel you cannot have both.
Does life seem to polarize you that way?

You and I are BOTH learning about houses,so this is a great way to do it.

That would be my supposition. You feel you cannot have love and money,at the same time.Somehow, this division arises,again and again.

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posted September 17, 2011 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jup in 12th oppose the moon in 6 in Aqua.

This may be your philosophy of life is hard to grasp. You are TOO mystical and not practical enough with your spiritual and philosophical ways of viewing life.
Does this fit?

Your moon is a frozen moon at 29 degrees. Your emotions can seem frozen in place, not fluid to feel as emotions do.
Do you feel very stuck,inside?

So, your philosophy may be too other worldly. You want to be of service, to do things for people outside your small world but you feel frozen.

That is how I would describe this.

What do you think?

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posted September 17, 2011 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in the 2nd squares your 5th house planets. I will get to that, next. Those are your squares.
I think the best way for both of us to learn is to take each thing the person said and try to thoughtfully answer.
Do you agree?

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posted September 17, 2011 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I screwed up. You have Pluto in the 3rd. Forget that about the 2nd. I will leave it cuz it was an interesting way to look at the houses but I need to change it,of course.

You struggle with being outspoken and being "loving".
That seems to fit, from what you say. Does it?

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posted September 17, 2011 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You got a bunch of stuff going on from Mars in the 2nd to planets in the 5th. This seems like it would be the struggle between practical and fun.
Is this a huge struggle? Do you feel like you MUST be practical before you can have fun, but you want to have fun.

I think you mentioned the not saving money but spending it all on "fun".

These house placements would show that struggle, I think.

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posted September 17, 2011 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those are your squares. Lets talk about those,before we go on to the trines and sextiles.

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posted September 17, 2011 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You have an almost Fire Void. Are you attracted to strong Fire men?

Well I find men who are descisive and independent attractive. Someone who takes charge and can take care of themselves and their significant other.

But that's it, I am definitely not into big muscle heads or anything hahaha. I like them smart and funny, someone I can talk with and relate too.

But the energy that fire men project is definitely attractive for sure.

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posted September 17, 2011 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am mixing myself up. I am writing to you on two threads lol

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