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seeker3030
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posted November 10, 2011 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
This is me and my partner - just wondered if anyone has any insight/thoughts on this synastry. We're going through a possible seperation (due to reasons of relocation for work rather than any disagreements) so it's a bit of a tough time. Any thoughts/observations gratefully received

He's on the outside.

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posted November 10, 2011 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by seeker3030:
Hi,
This is me and my partner - just wondered if anyone has any insight/thoughts on this synastry. We're going through a possible seperation (due to reasons of relocation for work rather than any disagreements) so it's a bit of a tough time. Any thoughts/observations gratefully received


Is he the one relocating?
Btw, could you give me the date, time & location of birth of you two. Hard to see aspects and orbs with just this chart.
Also want to test it with equal house as well

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posted November 10, 2011 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very strong synastry judging by a quick look.
He seems to need you the most.
I don't see you guys separating for ever.
Are there any alternative scenarios?
You seem to be a little challenged by his Pluto; hope you're past any control tendencies. This relationship has great potential IMO.

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posted November 10, 2011 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much for your replies!!

yuting yes it's him who's relocating and our details are as follows:
Mine: 4th Oct 1973 11.45pm Ashford, Kent, England
Him: 14th May 1976 1am Southampton, England.

His birth time is approximate but as accurate as we can be.

anongirl10 yeah it feels like a really strong but 'easy' connection between us. The thing I'm worried about is that since the weekend when all this came out about him possibly having to go/say goodbye he's gone quiet on me. I suppose he's just trying to come to terms with it in his own way. We could try long distance for a while and then I could see if me and my son could move nearer but it would involve my son not seeing his dad so much and that bothers me because I feel it's unfair of me to be selfish.

Don't feel too challenged by him in a direct way re the Pluto contact, however he does tend to get his own way One to watch.

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posted November 10, 2011 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I believe synastry should be read in the context of the two individuals involved. Synastry indicates the dynamics and characteristics, it is neither a yes or a no. Depending on the individual's perspectives, a yes for one can easily be no for another (e.g. excitement - some love it, some find it stressful, so is travelling and moving)

That is why I would have a quick look at your natals first to find the context.

How approximate is his birthtime, within how many hours +/-? I think houses can tell a lot if we can find them.
To check houses, has he 1) moved around a bit in his work or encountered quite a bit of up and down or
2) moved around quick a bit in terms of where he lived as well as short travels and maybe lived in foreign place before?


With that I'd also like to check which house system to use.
Will you say you are 1) a quick-witted person, like to communicate/talk or
2) close ties to home/family/heritage, but there you have encountered many changes?

Sorry to ask so many questions before I can offer any interpretation. Just want to do it in the right context

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posted November 11, 2011 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Yuting
No problem at all for asking questions! I'm just so grateful for your help!

Now unfortunately his birth time is rather approximate because he doesn't know anything other than 'early hours' and his mum can't remember the exact time - it was a very traumatic birth apparently and both of them 'died' and had to be resuscitated so the details are sketchy. The reason I've gone with 1am is that a Cap asc is the closest 'fit' I can find to the way he behaves alongside his Taurus sun etc. In answer to your question re his moving around it's a bit of a mix of both 1 and 2 however I'd go more for number 2 because of the fact he was moved around the country as a child quite a bit and lived in England, Wales and Scotland - bit of a nomadic life in many ways. He's also had quite a bit of up and down too though. So sorry not to be able to be completely certain and I realise that affects anyone's ability to give an accurate appraisal of the chart. His mum thinks 1am sounds right from what she can remember.

Re me, I'd go for 2. I tend to be very much a product of my 4th house! ;D I do like to talk but of the two, the home/family/heritage plays a very large part in my life.

Thanks so much once again and if the vagueness surrounding his birth time is too great I totally understand if it's not possible to look at this properly. I suppose I'm just trying to see if there's a chance for us to make this work - not goverened by synastry alone I know, but in these situations you tend to look at everything for guidance don't you?! Thank you x

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posted November 11, 2011 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by seeker3030:
Hi Yuting

Now unfortunately his birth time is rather approximate because he doesn't know anything other than 'early hours' and his mum can't remember the exact time - it was a very traumatic birth apparently and both of them 'died' and had to be resuscitated so the details are sketchy. The reason I've gone with 1am is that a Cap asc is the closest 'fit' I can find to the way he behaves alongside his Taurus sun etc.


In that case I would use his chart houses only in the planets are not near cusps and would not interpret aspects with his Asc/Dsc/MC/IC for both natal and synastry

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posted November 11, 2011 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by seeker3030:

In answer to your question re his moving around it's a bit of a mix of both 1 and 2 however I'd go more for number 2 because of the fact he was moved around the country as a child quite a bit and lived in England, Wales and Scotland - bit of a nomadic life in many ways. He's also had quite a bit of up and down too though. So sorry not to be able to be completely certain and I realise that affects anyone's ability to give an accurate appraisal of the chart. His mum thinks 1am sounds right from what she can remember.

Re me, I'd go for 2. I tend to be very much a product of my 4th house! ;D I do like to talk but of the two, the home/family/heritage plays a very large part in my life.


Just to clarify, for 1) the up and down refers mainly to career.

In any case, looks like Placidus will work for you both and I will use that

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posted November 11, 2011 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by seeker3030:

I suppose I'm just trying to see if there's a chance for us to make this work - not goverened by synastry alone I know, but in these situations you tend to look at everything for guidance don't you?! Thank you x


I will try to share my observations on characteristics etc, but I encourage you to synthesize yourself to come up with your decisions.

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posted November 11, 2011 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remember the 1st question I asked was whether he's the one relocating?

It's because I see a very strong 3H-9H axis for him, the axis of travel and foreign land. That means he's bound to have opportunities. He might strongly prefer short travel (Sun & Venus in 3H conjuncting SN) and live in the same neighbourhood, but it might not be his choice (Uranus in 9H) that he suddenly has to move for longer term. His NN is in 9H, that means while short travel might be his preference, possible goal and lesson for him in this live could be to be able to adapt to the changing 9H environment.

If this is the case, likely for his own development, relocating for him is good, albeit reluctant.

So if you stay with him, this is something you have to know and support, and this might not be the only relocation you two will face in future.

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posted November 11, 2011 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remember the 1st question I asked was whether he's the one relocating?

It's because I see a very strong 3H-9H axis for him, the axis of travel and foreign land. That means he's bound to have opportunities. He might strongly prefer short travel (Sun & Venus in 3H conjuncting SN) and live in the same neighbourhood, but it might not be his choice (Uranus in 9H) that he suddenly has to move for longer term. His NN is in 9H, that means while short travel might be his preference, possible goal and lesson for him in this live could be to be able to adapt to the changing 9H environment.

If this is the case, likely for his own development, relocating for him is good, albeit reluctant.

So if you stay with him, this is something you have to know and support, and this might not be the only relocation you two will face in future.

As this interpretation is house sensitive, it's why I asked extensive questions before giving it.

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posted November 11, 2011 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For you, you have venus/pallas conjunct in 5H, so likely you show love and wisdom to your child. Your venus/pallas grand trine AC and MC. Am I close if I say you identify strongly with your relationship with your child both internally as well as in front of the public (eg like sharing your relating with your child with others)?

You have uranus in your 4H, so changes in your home? If yes, you probably felt a lot of stress from them (t-square Asc and Moon).

So not hard to see why you are stressed with his relocation, which will affect your home life if you maintain the relationship

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posted November 11, 2011 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! I think that's spot on based on everything he's said and that's happened/is happening!

Completely agree re making own decisions without basing anything on synastry. It appears that he's decided to try and 'move on' in his way... he's gone completely silent on me. So I think perhaps the best thing for me is to assume it's done and draw a line under it with love. Thank you so much for taking the time to interpret this for me - really appreciate it! x

Just read your last msg and absolutely spot on with everything you say there too!! Totally correct with what you say about my child, sharing him with his father/grandparents and the stress I feel at the prospect of having to move because of disrupting that. Looks like it's been taken off the table so to speak however with his silence so ho hum. There've been constant changes in my home since I was 18 and in fact I feel as if I've been looking for 'home' ever since. I tend to make people my home so when a relationship ends it really shakes me because it's like being made homeless (in some cases quite literally) all over again. Need to see home as something within myself I think and something more fluid perhaps than I view it as now.

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posted November 11, 2011 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then going to the synastry.
You dont need me to tell you your relationship is quite harmonious. You have mostly soft aspects. Sun-Moon, Sun-Asc, are in soft aspects. Moon-Venus and Venus-Mars are both double whammy in a good way. Attraction, empathy, sexual compatibility should all ber there.

Venus/Saturn trine (plus his Saturn in 7H) probably provide for consistency in these feelings over time too.

Relating to question on hand, his Sun opp your venus in 5H, but since venus is a benevolent planet, working with strong sun attraction, it looks more like an issue of balancing him and your love of your child, rather than outright conflict. With his moon conj your venus, that might be additional emotional support for you in the balancing act.

Just noticed, his uranus is on your 5H cusp, square your Jupiter in 7H. Does seem to reflect relationship with him will bring about changes in your relationship with your child,and brings stress to your partnership (or at least optimism in partnership).

But then changes can be both good and bad. Need a synastry reading for him and your child? (oops, lets focus here first)

And you have t-sqs and plutonic energy in your chart, so probably you could handle a bit of challenge? esp when your relationship is otherwise so smooth

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posted November 11, 2011 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes to all again! Wow you're uncanny! ;D
It's always felt easy, fulfilling and (at the risk of flogging my pattern!) like coming home. In terms of the consistency (and with his Taurean Sun/Venus) I suppose I'm hoping his silence doesn't mean he's changed his mind about us. But if that's the case I'll just have to be a big brave girl and face that one head on.

Yes I think there is a definite issue around balancing him and my child in my life - I know he understands that my son has to be put first but I want to ultimately (if things continue) find a way to blend both relationships... so yep, synastry between them would be the next step! ;D

With regard to handling challenges... it's in my core programming haha! ;D Yes even though I love the placid, dreamy, peaceful quality of our relationship I admit I almost relish the opportunity to meet a challenge and find a solution with all of this.

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posted November 11, 2011 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Finally, look at your composite.

Wow! I admit I am jealous. One rectangle of all personal planets within close orb, and a grand trine!

The rectangle is with Mars2H/mer4H/Moon8H/Ven10H
That would likely give your relationship the ability to creatively and harmoniously balance the energy of these 4 planets as well as of those houses' concerns.


Moon in 8H is intense emotion and transformation of that emotion. But it is supported by Venus and Mercury and the moon is in Sagittarius, so maybe more enlightening than traumatic?

Quoting astrodienst, for moon in 8H, "explore the new and constantly changing features of your life together, and welcome such changes instead of fearing them."

Mer in 4H, communication about your deepest feeling and concerns could help the balancing.

Your composite sun is also in 4H, seems like this relationship would bring about desire to nest together.

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posted November 11, 2011 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, that's all I could see as main theme from my limited experience reading charts. Hope that echoes in at least some areas and hope you find it useful.

Please share with me your experience and thoughts. I am hoping to learn from this experience too.

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posted November 11, 2011 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! I didn't realise we had a grand trine! I know I've got to be mindful of the fact that his birth time is possibly not 100% accurate which changes some of this, but all you've said so far rings so true!

Totally agree and accept the advice re exploring/welcoming the constantly changing features. I have to say, had we not had this 'goodbye' I believe we would have plodded on for a while without expressing our true feelings for each other. It was only once we realised the gravity of the situation that barriers of shyness and fear were broken down and the whole truth came out so as such, I'm grateful for this change

Yes I would say we would definitely look to set up home together if things are rescued form this silence and continue. He always comments how 'perfect' my home is... not from a design/neatness aspect but it really is a home and feels like one to him. One of the other reasons he's wanting to leave his present set up is because he hates where he lives. Calls it a 'box' and doesn't want to spend any time there. Yet when he's here he can quite happily spend hours snuggled up on the sofa or helping me cook in the kitchen etc. He's home when he's here.

Yuting you have really been amazing and I want to thank you so very much for all your insight and help! I don't know what will happen but I do know that through your interpretations of our charts you've confirmed to me what we feel so it can't all be in my head! ;D If you would like a tarot reading in return I'd be so happy to do that. Please let me know and thanks so much once again x

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posted November 11, 2011 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by seeker3030:
Wow! I didn't realise we had a grand trine!

Oops! Just realized for the grand trine I used the AC/MC, which is only correct if his time is quite correct

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posted November 11, 2011 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by seeker3030:
I believe we would have plodded on for a while without expressing our true feelings for each other. It was only once we realised the gravity of the situation that barriers of shyness and fear were broken down and the whole truth came out so as such, I'm grateful for this change


He's probably preoccupied with the relocation itself. And you, your natal is much more challenged than the synastry, so you might focus more on your natal lessons than on the relationship normally and become complacent in the relationship.

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posted November 11, 2011 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by seeker3030:

Yes I would say we would definitely look to set up home together if things are rescued form this silence and continue. He always comments how 'perfect' my home is... not from a design/neatness aspect but it really is a home and feels like one to him. One of the other reasons he's wanting to leave his present set up is because he hates where he lives. Calls it a 'box' and doesn't want to spend any time there. Yet when he's here he can quite happily spend hours snuggled up on the sofa or helping me cook in the kitchen etc. He's home when he's here.

x



Both his natal Sun and the composite sun are in 4H, so likely he is "at home" in the relationship

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posted November 11, 2011 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by seeker3030:

If you would like a tarot reading in return I'd be so happy to do that. Please let me know and thanks so much once again x

Aaaaaw! So nice of you to offer. I do have a relationship question bugging me, and actually I have posted up the charts for others to help read. Very obviously, we do not have the kind of charts you and yours have, else I would have have my current question.

I met a guy online last summer. He seemed to be interested. We met up, then suddenly he seemed to have cold feet (he was divorced, and seemed he might still bear the torch for his ex-wife). Anyway, I thought things would drop off, but whenever I stopped, he would revive the interaction via SMS. Recent months, we have met up a few more times and exchange SMS on daily basis.

It has been over a year since meeting and I still have no idea if he is interested in developing something more serious with me. Could you help me read that?

I am contemplating whether to give it more time or not.

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posted November 12, 2011 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem at all, it'll be my pleasure! Can you give me a description of him and his initials so that I can tune in a bit?

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posted November 12, 2011 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No problem at all, it'll be my pleasure! Can you give me a description of him and his initials so that I can tune in a bit?

If you have email, I can send you a pic.
His name is Wing (Chinese name), family name starts with Y

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posted November 12, 2011 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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