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Metid Knowflake Posts: 265 From: Between the realms of insanity! Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 26, 2011 12:16 PM
Hi Hera,Don't know if you saw my question. Will my daughter get in touch with me.. does she think about me? ------------------ You are never lost!...You are just in a place you've never expected to be! IP: Logged |
yuting Knowflake Posts: 473 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 26, 2011 12:21 PM
Geez, having wacky connection. For every 5min connection I managed to get, it's followed by 15min broken connection  Here is the remaining feedback to the reading: quote: 4. Your current experience in this relationship Major Arcana � The MasterThe master welcomes the disciples not because he wants to lead them, but because he has so much to share. Together, they create an energy field that supports each unique individual in finding his or her own light. This card is suggesting that at present you are at peace with yourself, you are aware of who you are and what you want out of this relationship and can serve as a guide to him, who is still a bit in the dark about his true feelings for you. I think you taking action and telling him how you feel and what you want out of this relationship was a good thing. You let your guard down and remained approachable, like a true master. It took a lot of courage to take this step and I think you will soon see the results. 5. His current experience in this relationship Major Arcana XIII � Transformation This is a time for a deep let-go. Allow any pain, sorrow, or difficulty just to be there, accepting its "facticity". I think your action of sending him the email triggered something deep in him¡He is coming to the conclusion that he needs to leave the past behind once and for all, in order to move on and start something new with you. This is a time of endings and of letting go for him. is not an easy thing, but he is getting there, he is becoming internally ready to do it.
Not sure I am really the Master, but I feel I can only do work on myself, to control my impulses and to have patience to give him the time. I understand he has to overcome himself. I just need to manage my own expectations and to let him know I am receptive if he is willing. Maybe not just the email itself triggering. The email to me is only one of the means I have been leveraging on in the past months to follow this path. quote: 6. The relationship at present 3 of Water � CelebrationWhen you choose this card, it indicates that you are becoming more and more available and open to the many opportunities that are to celebrate in life, and to spread this by contagion to others. As you can see from this card, your relationship has/will soon take a turn for the better. You will receive news from him that will bring the joy back to your heart and give you hope for the future.
Would be nice to have a fun break even if there are still more challenges to come. quote: 7. Your future experience in this relationship Ace of Rainbows � MaturityWhen you draw this card, know well this moment carries a gift--for hard work well done. Your base is solid now and success and good fortune are yours for they are the outcome of what has already been experienced within. In the future you will become even more centered and self-aware and you will harvest the fruits of your courage for stating out how you really feel¡You will grow a lot through this relationship 8. His future experience in this relationship Major Arcana XII - New Vision Now you are presented with an opportunity to see life in all its dimensions, from the depths to the heights. They exist together, and when we come to know from experience that the dark and the difficult are needed as much as the light and easy, then we begin to have a very different perspective on the world. By allowing all of life's colors to penetrate us, we become more integrated. As you can see, with you help and guidance, he will see the new dawn of hope that you bring into his life. He will be reborn through this relationship, he will leave all his past hurts and preconditionings behind him and visualize a whole new dimension of life. He will become whole, through you and your relationship.
The readings so far all fell in line with our synastry: tons of Saturn to personal planet aspects (his Saturn tri my sun/ven, conj my moon, sextile my MC, my saturn sq his moon), my chiron hits his sun/jup/saturn. Strange though, in most cases the saturn person should be the more mature person, but in my case, I feel I am more emotionally mature than he. Maybe it is the karma to help him & the perseverance required to do so is that Saturn (not him per se). I see I am going to need a lot of maturity to handle this IP: Logged |
yuting Knowflake Posts: 473 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 26, 2011 12:22 PM
quote: The future of the relationship Major Arcana XIV - Integration The card of integration is the symbol of self-creation, new life, and mystical union; otherwise known as alchemy. ¡K it suggests the blending of two opposite forces � day and night, fire and water, man and woman. A mystical union, as the description says. Your relationship will become balanced and secure. 10. The outcome Personally, this last position confuses me, because up until now all the cards arranged themselves in such a way that they tell a story, but with this last card, it seems you will not be out of the woods just yet. 4 of Clouds � Postponement There is still too much 'what-if?' activity in her mind. The one and only result of postponing things is a dull and depressing feeling of incompletion and 'stuck-ness' today. The relief and expansiveness you will feel once you put aside all the dithering thoughts that are preventing you from acting now will make you wonder why you ever waited so long. It seems like he will take a step back again somewhere along your mutual development. ... He seems to have quite a bit of issues with commitment and deep involvement in relationships, after the burn he suffered with his ex-wife. So I think sometime in the future, he will become indecisive again and take a step back. You seem to be the more emotionally mature and spiritually evolved out of the two of you and it will be your job to get him through this confusing period¡K I think he will be hesitant to make a full, official commitment to you, after the failure of his marriage and you will have to show him he has nothing to worry about, because what you two have is worth taking this risk.
Confusing indeed. But on the otherhand, the outcome card ¡§Postponement¡¨ is in line with the Saturn theme of our relationship. Maybe it is teaching us to appreciate the journey, the learning process, and the outcome would not come until we have learnt what we need to (ie achieve the necessary integration). Then maybe one day, when we ask when he¡¦d make a decision, we¡¦d suddenly realize the decision had already been there for a while, and we just couldn¡¦t see it which ¡§makes us wonder why we ever waited so long¡¨ Hehe, guess I am forever the optimist  Would it be too much to ask for you to help me do a short reading on whether my understanding/synthesis of the last 2 cards are in the right direction? Btw, I know you are a horary/event reading guru. Our 1st meeting chart is literally combusting with Sun/Moon/Venus all in via combusta. What does that imply? Thanks so much for this deep reading and for your encouragement.  I see a tough road ahead, but a worthwhile fruit in the end. Regardless of outcome, it will help me evolve.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 15040 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 26, 2011 01:42 PM
Hera, thank you for the extra time you put in here. I have to say, that deck is stunning!------------------ "The stars which shone over Babylon and the stable in Bethlehem still shine as brightly over the Empire State Building and your front yard today. They perform their cycles with the same mathematical precision, and they will continue to affect each thing on earth, including man, as long as the earth exists." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
Venia Knowflake Posts: 346 From: Germany Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 27, 2011 08:10 AM
My dear Hera!THANK YOU soooooo much for this lovely reading and for your beautiful wishes!  I deeply appreciate your time and effort! This deck is amazing and has deep spiritual messages. I will have to study the reading once more, but it did rang true about everything. I wish I could return the favor! You are truly charismatic!  IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 27, 2011 08:18 AM
You guys are making me blush here...  Unfortunately, today and tomorrow I will be unable to do readings. Today I am on call at the hospital with a tone of paperwork and tomorrow I have a big meeting at work and cannot miss it, and it will take me all afternoon. So hopefully on Tuesday I will be able to do some more, though my new boyfriend wants to spend time with me too... But I'll sqeeze a few readings in between, I don't want to keep you guys waiting for me. Lots of love to everyone!! IP: Logged |
yuting Knowflake Posts: 473 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 27, 2011 08:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hera: You guys are making me blush here...  ...So hopefully on Tuesday I will be able to do some more, though my new boyfriend wants to spend time with me too... Lots of love to everyone!!
Love is in the air  Enjoy! IP: Logged |
Junethird Knowflake Posts: 74 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 27, 2011 02:10 PM
Hi Hera Thanks for leading me to your post...My question is about my relationship with Kyle. We met on october 15, 2010 and altho we had some good times, its been rough. I want to know Where are we going? How are we going to end the year? Will we conceive another baby? Sorry for the repost... U have two post and wasnt sure which one to post to and also last few days My Internet crapped out on me  IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 28, 2011 12:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Junethird: Hi Hera Thanks for leading me to your post...My question is about my relationship with Kyle. We met on october 15, 2010 and altho we had some good times, its been rough. I want to know Where are we going? How are we going to end the year? Will we conceive another baby? Sorry for the repost... U have two post and wasnt sure which one to post to and also last few days My Internet crapped out on me 
It's alright, June, on whatever thread you post, your request has been noted, but I do need to warn you it might take a little bit until I get to you . IP: Logged |
Junethird Knowflake Posts: 74 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 28, 2011 03:20 PM
No worries. Take all the time you need. Busy with work, so I can't check or reply right away... Congrats on the new boyfriend  IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 29, 2011 08:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by yuting: Confusing indeed. But on the otherhand, the outcome card ¡§Postponement¡¨ is in line with the Saturn theme of our relationship. Maybe it is teaching us to appreciate the journey, the learning process, and the outcome would not come until we have learnt what we need to (ie achieve the necessary integration). Then maybe one day, when we ask when he¡¦d make a decision, we¡¦d suddenly realize the decision had already been there for a while, and we just couldn¡¦t see it which ¡§makes us wonder why we ever waited so long¡¨ Hehe, guess I am forever the optimist  Would it be too much to ask for you to help me do a short reading on whether my understanding/synthesis of the last 2 cards are in the right direction? Btw, I know you are a horary/event reading guru. Our 1st meeting chart is literally combusting with Sun/Moon/Venus all in via combusta. What does that imply? Thanks so much for this deep reading and for your encouragement.  I see a tough road ahead, but a worthwhile fruit in the end. Regardless of outcome, it will help me evolve.
Thank you for the feedback, Yuting! Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you on this, I was a bit scattered emotionally and needed a break to stabilize myself. I think your understanding of the last two cards is correct - after all, like Ceri said, most of the times, it is the querent's reactions to the reading that are the correct ones. I work with symbols and sometimes can follow a wrong path (given that I am not personally involved and don't have all the details, sometimes it's just guessing and intuition). I am not really an expert in event charts, but I do alright with horary, because it has puzzled me (I didn't get it at all in the beginning lol and didn't stop until I learned it right). In horary having that combustion in Via combusta would be kind of tricky, but not sure if that applies to event charts. Via combusta shows there are hidden issues, behind the curtain sort of things, unspoken, though sometimes it can mean deception (because of the secrets). Combustion usually means blindness - the planets are so close to the Sun they are "blinded" or burned. But as I said, I don't think it applies to event charts. I'd say a Sun-Moon-Venus conjunction is a wonderful aspect configuration in a FM chart. It is practically a New Moon conjunct Venus - what could be more wonderful? Is it in Libra or in Scorpio? What house does it fall into? What houses do Sun, Moon and Venus rule in the FMC? Perhaps you can post it on a separate thread and I will take a look. IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 29, 2011 08:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Metid: Hi Hera,Don't know if you saw my question. Will my daughter get in touch with me.. does she think about me?
I saw your question, I have thought of a spread for you already, just been swamped with my own emotional stuff and unable to center myself. Hopefully I will get to you soon! IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 29, 2011 08:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Hera, thank you for the extra time you put in here. I have to say, that deck is stunning!
It is my pleasure, Randall! It was time to give back a little to this wonderful community. You are welcome to leave a question if you want to, I'd love to give you a reading with this deck! IP: Logged |
Metid Knowflake Posts: 265 From: Between the realms of insanity! Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 29, 2011 08:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hera: I saw your question, I have thought of a spread for you already, just been swamped with my own emotional stuff and unable to center myself. Hopefully I will get to you soon!
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Hera Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 29, 2011 08:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by enchantress: Hi Hera, thanks for the kind offer. I'd like to ask how he feels towards me now that we're away from each other. Is there still hope? He's a friend of mine who is deeply close to me, but we don't see each other anymore due to some issues. Please take your time, i'm not really in a hurry to get my reading 
You're next on my list, Enchantress! Hope you're around, I will try to do a few readings today. IP: Logged |
enchantress Knowflake Posts: 47 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted November 29, 2011 09:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hera: You're next on my list, Enchantress! Hope you're around, I will try to do a few readings today.
yay yay yay! looking forward to it!  IP: Logged |
yuting Knowflake Posts: 473 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 29, 2011 09:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hera: Thank you for the feedback, Yuting! Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you on this, I was a bit scattered emotionally and needed a break to stabilize myself.
Happy scatteredness is good  quote: I work with symbols and sometimes can follow a wrong path (...sometimes it's just guessing and intuition).
We are all guessing anyway. If a positive guess makes me happier, why not?  quote: I am not really an expert in event charts, but I do alright with horary, because it has puzzled me
Expect quite a bit of similarity, except horary is for planning ahead, event is for post mortem. Prolly event were analyzed by our predecessors to enable horary. quote: Via combusta shows there are hidden issues, behind the curtain sort of things, unspoken,...usually means blindness
I won't be surprised there are some secretive and foggy elements in the relationship. Thanks for offering to look at the FMC. Will be posting it in a separate thread, attn to you IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 29, 2011 09:26 AM
Oki, Yuting, just be patient with me, I will get back to you when I can (got a lot of stuff to get done). IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 29, 2011 10:26 AM
READING FOR ENCHANTRESS1. You at present 10 of Water – Harmony quote: The experience of resting in the heart in meditation is not something that can be grasped or forced. It comes naturally, as we grow more and more in tune with the rhythms of our own inner silences. The figure on this card reflects the sweetness and delicacy of this experience. The dolphins that emerge from the heart and make an arc towards the third eye reflect the playfulness and intelligence that comes when we are able to connect with the heart and move into the world from there.Let yourself be softer and more receptive now, because an inexpressible joy is waiting for you just around the corner. Nobody else can point it out to you, and when you find it you won't be able to find the words to express it to others. But it's there, deep within your heart, ripe and ready to be discovered.
It seems your heart is filled with compassion and understanding, you are at a peaceful time emotionally, very in tune with your inner feelings and confident enough to reach out to others for help or for assisting them with their problems. 2. Him at present Page of Rainbows - Adventure quote: When we are truly in a spirit of adventure, we are moving just like this child. Full of trust, out of the darkness of the forest into the rainbow of the light, we go step by step, drawn by our sense of wonder into the unknown. Adventure really has nothing to do with plans and maps and programs and organization. The Page of Rainbows represents a quality that can come to us anywhere--at home or in the office, in the wilderness or in the city, in a creative project or in our relationships with others. Whenever we move into the new and unknown with the trusting spirit of a child, innocent and open and vulnerable, even the smallest things of life can become the greatest adventures.
He is entering a new territory, perhaps related to a new work place, a new location or a new relationship. He is facing the unknown with curiosity and excitement, seeing this new beginning as an adventure, an opportunity for self-development and growth.
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Hera Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 29, 2011 10:26 AM
3. How he feels about youMajor Arcana IV – The rebel quote: The powerful and authoritative figure in this card is clearly the master of his own destiny. On his shoulder is an emblem of the sun, and the torch he holds in his right hand symbolizes the light of his own hard-won truth. Whether he is wealthy or poor, the Rebel is really an emperor because he has broken the chains of society's repressive conditioning and opinions. He has formed himself by embracing all the colors of the rainbow, emerging from the dark and formless roots of his unconscious past and growing wings to fly into the sky. His very way of being is rebellious--not because he is fighting against anybody or anything, but because he has discovered his own true nature and is determined to live in accordance with it. The eagle is his spirit animal, a messenger between earth and sky. The Rebel challenges us to be courageous enough to take responsibility for who we are and to live our truth.
The rebel is the master of his own domain. I think there are a couple of possibilities here. Either he sees you as being part of his “domain”, his kinship, feeling responsible for you and your well-being, or he is acting rebellious against some factors between you that he felt were constricting him and were not in agreement with his inner self (you said there were some issues that lead to this separation). 4. How he thinks of you Major Arcana XIV - Integration quote: The image of integration is the union mystica, the fusion of opposites. This is a time of communication between the previously experienced dualities of life. Rather than night opposing day, dark suppressing light, they work together to create a unified whole, turning endlessly one into the other, each containing in its deepest core the seed of the opposite. The eagle and the swan are both beings of flight and majesty. The eagle is the embodiment of power and aloneness. The swan is the embodiment of space and purity, gently floating and diving upon and within the element of the emotions, entirely content and complete within her perfection and beauty. We are the union of eagle and swan: male and female, fire and water, life and death. The card of integration is the symbol of self-creation, new life, and mystical union; otherwise known as alchemy.
It seems like he thinks you are two opposite forces that were brought together. Integration sometimes takes time and effort. If it is reached, it allows for a feeling of completion, wholeness and harmony. I believe he thinks he received those through your relationship.
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Hera Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 29, 2011 10:27 AM
5. What is he keeping from you8 of Water – Letting go quote: In this image of lotus leaves in the early morning, we can see in the rippling of the water that one drop has just fallen. It is a precious moment, and one that is full of poignancy. In surrendering to gravity and slipping off the leaf, the drop loses its previous identity and joins the vastness of the water below. We can imagine that it must have trembled before it fell, just on the edge between the known and the unknowable.To choose this card is a recognition that something is finished, something is completing. Whatever it is--a job, a relationship, a home you have loved, anything that might have helped you to define who you are--it is time to let go of it, allowing any sadness but not trying to hold on. Something greater is awaiting you, new dimensions are there to be discovered. You are past the point of no return now, and gravity is doing its work. Go with it--it represents liberation.
From this card, it would appear that, though he hasn’t said it upfront, he has moved on… He detached from his past, going forward into the future enthusiastically (Page of Rainbows). There is something that he is leaving behind, I do not know if this is you specifically or his previous life style. 6. What he reveals to you Major Arcana XXI – Completion quote: Here the last piece of a jigsaw puzzle is being put into its place, the position of the third eye, the place of inner perception. Even in the ever-changing flow of life there are moments in which we come to a point of completion. In these moments we are able to perceive the whole picture, the composite of all the small pieces that have occupied our attention for so long. In the finishing, we can either be in despair because we don't want the situation to come to an end, or we can be grateful and accepting of the fact that life is full of endings and new beginnings. Whatever has been absorbing your time and energy is now coming to an end. In completing it, you will be clearing the space for something new to begin. Use this interval to celebrate both--the end of the old and the coming of the new.
The theme of endings and new beginnings is also present in this card. It seems like this is something he is going through at present – leaving something behind, something he feels has come full circle to its natural ending (in his view) in order to start something new somewhere else (with someone else)…
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 15040 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 29, 2011 10:27 AM
Thanks, Hera. I will have to think of a question.------------------ "The stars which shone over Babylon and the stable in Bethlehem still shine as brightly over the Empire State Building and your front yard today. They perform their cycles with the same mathematical precision, and they will continue to affect each thing on earth, including man, as long as the earth exists." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 29, 2011 10:28 AM
7. What he wants from this relationship5 of Clouds – Comparison quote: Who ever told you that the bamboo is more beautiful than the oak, or the oak more valuable than the bamboo? Do you think the oak wishes it had a hollow trunk like this bamboo? Does the bamboo feel jealous of the oak because it is bigger and its leaves change color in the fall? The very idea of the two trees comparing themselves to each other seems ridiculous, but we humans seem to find this habit very hard to break. Let's face it, there is always going to be somebody who is more beautiful, more talented, stronger, more intelligent, or apparently happier than you are. And conversely, there will always be those who are less than you in all these ways. The way to find out who you are is not by comparing yourself with others, but by looking to see whether you are fulfilling your own potential in the best way you know how.
This card also speaks about differences between you two, or at least his perception of them. Whatever issues are there between you two, he at present seems to think they are unsolvable. He is comparing your different views regarding the issues you had or your relationship. I hope he can see a reconciliation of your opposite natures/attitudes, though with the 8 of Water I drew previously, I am more inclined to think he might not… 8. The outcome 2 of Rainbows – Moment to moment quote: As this figure moves across the stones, he steps lightly and non-seriously, and at the same time absolutely balanced and alert. Behind the swirling, ever-changing waters we can see the shapes of buildings; there appears to be a city in the background. The man is in the marketplace but at the same time outside of it, maintaining his balance and able to watch it from above.This card challenges us to move away from our preoccupations with other spaces and other times, and stay alert to what is happening in the here and now. Life is a great ocean in which you can play if you drop all your judgments, your preferences and the attachment to the details of your long-term plans. Be available to what comes your way, as it comes. And don't worry if you stumble or fall; just pick yourself up, dust yourself off, have a good laugh, and carry on.
One of the meanings of this card is balance – between different/opposite forces, which I hope shall be restored between you two. Another meaning is detachment from your concerns and desires and remaining flexible and accepting of whatever comes. It does seem like you cannot do anything about it but give him space and time for now. He might have separated from you (and I think he is quite set in his mind about it for now), but hopefully it will not be for too long. Right now he feels the need to explore other paths/opportunities and leave the old behind. You cannot stop him or prevent him from doing that because he will respond with the Rebel inside who doesn’t want any constrictions imposed on him. I think for now the best course of action is to let him be… accept his decision and focus on other things. Perhaps after that he will come back, realizing that the issues between you were not really that unsolvable. I’m sorry I didn’t deliver more positive news to you… But if the bond between you was truly strong, he will see past those differences and comparisons and return to you. Perhaps this is a test on your relationship with him. Big hug and wishing you all the best! 
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Hera Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: the OR Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 29, 2011 10:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by Metid: Hi Ana,Seeing as you need truely meaningful q's may I ask; How does my daughter feel about me.. Will she get in contact with me soon?
It's your turn next, Ian. I hope I will be able to do your reading today, but I have some things I need to take care of also... Since tomorrow I'm on duty at the hospital, I will be able to do readings again on Thursday, but hopefully I'll manage to sqeeze in a few more today. IP: Logged |
Metid Knowflake Posts: 265 From: Between the realms of insanity! Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 29, 2011 10:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hera: It's your turn next, Ian. I hope I will be able to do your reading today, but I have some things I need to take care of also... Since tomorrow I'm on duty at the hospital, I will be able to do readings again on Thursday, but hopefully I'll manage to sqeeze in a few more today.
Thank you Ana... Do whatever you need to 
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