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kaleidoscope Knowflake Posts: 32 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 21, 2012 02:44 PM
Thanks for explaining the 12th house for me. I would like to read the article you wrote for this placement, do you have a link?IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1118 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 21, 2012 05:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Chiron in the 1st--were you bullied, badly? If not. what "wound" do you feel you wear on your sleeve?
I've never heard of this one. I have chiron in first house and definately was not bullied. I see it as the mark of a healer, great at healing others, but not great at healing myself... http://www.moonsweb.com/ast/chiron.shtml http://www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat01.html http://www.astrotherapy.eu/Chiron.htm http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/chiron21.5.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/chiron.html http://www.martinlass.com/chiron.htm http://www.zanestein.com/chiron_a.htm http://www.pathwaytoascension.com/astrology/lesson6.html http://books.google.com/books?id=4rnvfxrc4LwC&pg=PT1&dq=astrology+chiron&lr=lang_en&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_brr=0&ei=wMfUSoj-HI6MNdHKzYcO# v=onepage&q=astrology%20chiron&f=false------------------ I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1118 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 21, 2012 05:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by kaleidoscope: No, I wasn't bullied. I'd have to say the wound I have is not feeling acknowledged as a child. My parents are divorced and my dad was an alcoholic and wasn't affectionate and we weren't close.
sun square Neptune shows me you are not a typical Aries,much more softer like pisces/neptune. Uranus in 7th house IS a divorce aspect as is moon square Uranus. I too have both these aspects and have been married 3x now... Moon quincunx mars shows the bossiest mother alive... Moon Quincunx Mars “Learning to be emotionally consistent is harder for you than for most people because your feelings and desires cover such a wide range of possible expression. Your manner of self expression can inadvertently add weight and encouragement to components of your personality that you actually wish to minimize or even transform. It takes much experimentation with relationships in order to have emotions that serve your higher needs rather than just running amuck on their own mission of blind, disconnected expression. Either artistic or idealistic goals are necessary to achieve satisfaction” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html “shows that you lack self control in expressing your feelings. You tend to misjudge people and to form binding alliances with individuals who take advantage of your indulgence. Even when others abuse and misuse you, you never raise a hand to defend yourself. You feel powerless to oppose the oppressive demands that people make of your talents, and when they exploit you, you are bitter and disappointed. Your greatest problem is to resolve the conflict between your desire to be useful to people and their expectations that you will make up for their deficiencies.” From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag Mercury Quincunx Mars “General circumstances as well as other people encourage your reach to exceed way beyond your grasp. Anger and impulsiveness carries you way beyond your resources. Left in a highly overextended position, you can end up wasting immense amounts of energy trying to do what you said you would do, or running away from situations you created through lack of forethought. Recognition that your ideals are different from the actual circumstances sets you in the right direction.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html Now ruler of 7th in 6th shows where you should meet a partner and this suggests via work environment... ------------------ I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 27279 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 21, 2012 05:29 PM
Saggie In my many readings, Chiron in the 1st, or conj the ASC, seems to have been bullied, quite often. Of course, one can not make a doctrine or it, nor am I.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 1118 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 21, 2012 05:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I, always, start with 12th house planets. You have a 12th house Aries Sun. Understanding this one thing will free you.
Just playing devils advocat here, but why not try using Equal house system as this moves your sun to 11th house I use Equal House system (where each cusp is same as Ascendant) and am a modern astrologer. Lots of newcomers come into Astrology/forums and get a free chart from astro and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few others if you wish to experiment….. Within the mainstream are placidus/equal houses (the default on astro is placidus) only difference being some planets may move from one house to another thereby altering it's interpretation and it's 'only' with research will you find which /planets 'fit you' in which houses. So my advice, do two charts, research any planets that move houses and see which you identity with - simple Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAwGtMWl4z4 Are friendships important to you? do you like group work? Sun in the 11th House "Your personal fulfillment is reinforced by expressing your own uniqueness. Chances are you will find yourself having to work cooperatively within the framework of a group of people. The life challenge here is to work cooperatively while maintaining a certain amount of your own autonomy" http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/planetsunhouse.htm#hs11
------------------ I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 27279 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 21, 2012 05:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by kaleidoscope: Thanks for explaining the 12th house for me. I would like to read the article you wrote for this placement, do you have a link?
Yes, http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 27279 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 21, 2012 05:35 PM
Chiron in 1st sextile NN You will get to your goal by using your Chiron. Do you feel this? You may be a counselor or just someone to whom people can unburden themselves. Are you?------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 27279 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 21, 2012 05:38 PM
Chiron sextile mercury. You can talk about your pain. You can do it in groups. Your moon/heart is close to your mind/mercury Do people come to you for healing in a group setting, as of now, even? If not, would you like to have this role in a group?------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2299 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 21, 2012 05:38 PM
Saggie,Uranus in the 7th doesn't mean divorce nor does moon square uranus.....it means she needs lots of space and a partner that will not try to dominate her and control her put respect her individuality and she will do the same for him. Ofcourse it can manifest in divorce too I am sure or in long distance relationships or in breaking up and getting back together cycle. In your case it has manifested in divorce but is different for everyone. Also saturn conjuncts her 7th house ruler so she probably takes marriage extremely seriously so if she does get married will probably work hard to make it work. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 27279 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 21, 2012 05:41 PM
Chiron quincunx Saturn in the 6th in Libra. You want to serve others. You may feel you are not worthy of it. Is this true? You may feel to insecure to try, to believe you have something to offer.Does your stress from Chiron in the 1st issues give rise to any health issues which seem persistent and hard to get rid of? ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 27279 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 21, 2012 05:41 PM
I will leave that for your consideration and be back!------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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kaleidoscope Knowflake Posts: 32 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 21, 2012 09:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by SaggiMC: Just playing devils advocat here, but why not try using Equal house system as this moves your sun to 11th houseI use Equal House system (where each cusp is same as Ascendant) and am a modern astrologer. Lots of newcomers come into Astrology/forums and get a free chart from astro and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few others if you wish to experiment….. Within the mainstream are placidus/equal houses (the default on astro is placidus) only difference being some planets may move from one house to another thereby altering it's interpretation and it's 'only' with research will you find which /planets 'fit you' in which houses. So my advice, do two charts, research any planets that move houses and see which you identity with - simple Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAwGtMWl4z4 Are friendships important to you? do you like group work? Sun in the 11th House "Your personal fulfillment is reinforced by expressing your own uniqueness. Chances are you will find yourself having to work cooperatively within the framework of a group of people. The life challenge here is to work cooperatively while maintaining a certain amount of your own autonomy" http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/planetsunhouse.htm#hs11
Thanks Saggie, I'll have to do that. As for friendships being important to me... Yes, they are but unfortunately I don't have many friends and I don't mind working in a group, but I'm more of a loner. IP: Logged |
kaleidoscope Knowflake Posts: 32 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 21, 2012 09:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Chiron in 1st sextile NN You will get to your goal by using your Chiron. Do you feel this? You may be a counselor or just someone to whom people can unburden themselves. Are you?
I'm not sure. I'm not a counselor but people do tend to tell me their problems and want to talk to me about them. I like to be able to help. IP: Logged |
kaleidoscope Knowflake Posts: 32 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 21, 2012 09:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Chiron sextile mercury. You can talk about your pain. You can do it in groups. Your moon/heart is close to your mind/mercury Do people come to you for healing in a group setting, as of now, even? If not, would you like to have this role in a group?
I don't think that people come to me for healing, but I am very empathetic. I don't think I would like to have this role in a group unless they were people I knew and were comfortable with because I have a little social anxiety. IP: Logged |
kaleidoscope Knowflake Posts: 32 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 21, 2012 09:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Chiron quincunx Saturn in the 6th in Libra. You want to serve others. You may feel you are not worthy of it. Is this true? You may feel to insecure to try, to believe you have something to offer.Does your stress from Chiron in the 1st issues give rise to any health issues which seem persistent and hard to get rid of?
Yes, that is very true. I have issues with my insecurities, worthiness and self esteem. I do want to help others. I suffer from depression all of my life and it's been very hard to get rid of. IP: Logged |
kaleidoscope Knowflake Posts: 32 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 21, 2012 09:53 PM
Btw Ami, I checked out your web site and you have a lot of interesting articles!IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 27279 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 21, 2012 09:54 PM
Well, we will go step by step and you should see, as I am, that things are not your "fault". We were given these things from Someone Bigger, however you view Him. It eases a great deal, when we can look at it this way.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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kaleidoscope Knowflake Posts: 32 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 22, 2012 01:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Well, we will go step by step and you should see, as I am, that things are not your "fault". We were given these things from Someone Bigger, however you view Him. It eases a great deal, when we can look at it this way.
Ok, thanks! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 27279 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 22, 2012 02:36 PM
Dear Kal Can I call you that lol Well, I am not averse to moving planets to different houses, if a house does not fit. Usually, that will become evident, as the reading progresses, though.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 27279 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 22, 2012 02:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by kaleidoscope: Btw Ami, I checked out your web site and you have a lot of interesting articles!
Thank you so much! I am glad you liked it. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 27279 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 22, 2012 02:41 PM
Where did we leave off? Do you want to talk about anything we did and discuss anything? Are you a super beginner? ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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RegardesPlatero Knowflake Posts: 1713 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011
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posted January 22, 2012 03:55 PM
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kaleidoscope Knowflake Posts: 32 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 22, 2012 03:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Where did we leave off? Do you want to talk about anything we did and discuss anything? Are you a super beginner?
Yeah, you can call me Kal Well we left off on chiron and we touched on the 12th house. I looked through your articles, but didnt find a specific article relating to just sun in 12th. I saw that it did mention that would make one insecure about shining one’s light, standing out and standing up for one’s unique identity. I think thats true for me and yes I'm an extreme beginner. IP: Logged |
kaleidoscope Knowflake Posts: 32 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 22, 2012 04:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by RegardesPlatero: --Platero
Gracias!! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 27279 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 22, 2012 04:30 PM
Ok You are just a baby newbie in Astrology. I am gonna write some things about Sun in the 12th, as that will help and be a place to start!------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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