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JoJo
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posted February 06, 2012 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shocker!!! I have fallen in love (completely, in my soul), and he has fallen in love just as deeply. I think I know why this relationship feels so blessed and healing for both of us, but can you guys tell me what you see (I'm on the inside)?

Afterward, I'll give more details so we can compare notes.

(Just for fun, I threw in our name asteroids - I'm Jody and he's McCon on the chart.

Thanks!!

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posted February 06, 2012 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see it? all you guys have are mutual sun-moon aspects, venus trine pluto, venus trine moon, moon sextile mars, sun opposite mars...those are the only significant aspects I see. That composite is mega scattered and the synastry doesnt show anything special other than the mutual sun-moon aspects and venus trine pluto. Seems like it would be just a passing fling.

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posted February 06, 2012 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is scattered true but the moon does have a lot of aspects including moon square pluto and NN conjuncts sun/chiron so the relationship feels fated and feelings run high bc of the moon aspects. My feeling is that it will last a while but not that long, there is a lesson to be learned that will result in pain or healing and then the relationship will conclude.

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posted February 06, 2012 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like...
Sun trine Saturn
Sun conjunct Valentine-Lust
Saturn conjunct NN
Venus-Aphrodite conjunct Chiron
Great aspects.

However, the Venus-Mercury opposite Neptune is something to watch out for :/

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posted February 06, 2012 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has a Taurus Sun conjunct his Saturn... and you are a Pisces - sextiling this conjunction... Plus your NN is there on his Saturn... It's actually very unlikely that he will end this relationship.
So if you do have your heart set on him and you want this to last - it will last as long as you want it to. It's also very easy for you to get just about *anything* out of him. If you happen to have your eye on an expensive watch or piece of jewelry... he *will* buy it (so feel free to *hint* lol)

But - I do agree with RunAround and Amelia that it's a bit scattered... You could easily feel like you need to get out of this relationship, in the future. It might become too serious for you and not passionate enough overall.
The decision will be yours as to whether you want this or not in the end. He would never take the initiative to break this off imo

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JoJo
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posted February 07, 2012 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting thoughts everyone.

Betty, I was most surprised by your take on it considering you and I are both Pisces with Cappy moons. You know how much respect and loyalty means... It's almost a love language for me.

I'm also surprised no one has mentioned the DW NN-Sun conjunction or the heavy Chiron connections.

Thoughts?

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posted February 07, 2012 02:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
please repost the syn bi wheel and reduce the orb ratio down to 40%to bring in line with mainstream views. max orb between planets is 3'

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
when you get this chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left should be *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up the aspect grid –at a glance planet to planet. Post the whole PDF file, what we are looking for if scroll down to ‘partner comparison’ aspect grid

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posted February 08, 2012 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have mutual sun-moon aspects which makes people drawn to each other like magnets. I love grupovenus.com's description of that Double Whammy. You should try their compatibility for lovers report. It's free. Then, you have moon trine venus and some nice jupiter and mars aspects for fun and sexual attraction, on top you have venus trine pluto which is basically what is causing your strong feelings for each other. The other nice synastry aspects certainly help though. However because the composite is so scattered, and honestly, rather bad...moon square pluto almost always leads a relationship to end eventually after you have "outgrown" each other because one or both of you feels suffocated.....I dont think the relationship would last as long as you might want. But, crazier things have happened, and venus trine pluto is a great aspect....so keep your hopes up, though . There is still a chance in my opinion

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posted February 21, 2012 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I apologize for not getting back to this sooner. It's been a little hectic lately but I am very interested in your thoughts.

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JoJo
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posted February 21, 2012 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry Chart at 40%

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posted February 22, 2012 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The composite does look rather scattered. Composite chart ruler conjunct NN would be significant if it was well aspected. Same for venus.

That being said, you should look at declinations because those hidden connections are powerful. Use 1 degree.

I once saw a composite chart that was very, very scattered, absolutely nothing to look at. Hardly any sun and moon aspects, venus badly aspected. Yet in declinations, the sun, mercury, mars, jupiter, chiron were all parallel exactly. Saturn, uranus, neptune were exactly parallel each other and parallel the other parallel group within 1 degree. Venus parallel NN 1 degree.

In synastry, their junos were exactly parallel and her saturn exactly parallel his venus.

They have been together for 2 and a half years and seem to be doing well for now

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posted February 22, 2012 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yuting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you would like to see the asteroid to asteroid aspects in the grid, please check option "aspect lines to all"

I do not really agree with a scattered composite. Your composite has a reasonably tight grand trine in Fire, involving 1H and MC. And while Sun is not part of the grand trine, it is also in Fire and conjuncting NN. This would probably mean a very flowing fire energy in your relationship. With cardinal houses being involved, it would probably be a dynamic relationship as well. Leo Asc, MC and Mars in 1H as part of the grand trine, your relationship would likely have a strong presence (ie hard not to notice you two are a couple and you two probably make a glamor couple) and as a couple, you could have strong impact on other people. Strong 9H as well, the impact could be you two wanting to share your knowledge/insight with others and helping others expand their views.

Actually I quite like the composite. Looks purposeful to me (esp with Sun conj NN and in same element as grand trine)

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posted February 23, 2012 05:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
apologies for delay in responding, unfortunately this forum doesn't send email alerts when you make posts, only to you IF you start one. This means that I have to go back manually to find threads where I made a post/comment....

well done for posting the chart AND aspect grid..

If I just focus on the poss challenges, ie: conjunctions with malific ie: from saturn, uranus,neptune and pluto.
So conj, opp, squares, as for the sextiles and trines I'll leave for you to research.

sun square moon
moon square mercury
uranus square moon

out of the above three I only see uranus square moon as problematic..

there are 3 saturn contacts which are needed as he tends to act as cement for good OR bad here..

If you want to research more into synastry try here http://cafeastrology.com/astrology_of_relationships.html http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/interchartaspects.html http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry_house_overlays.html http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastry-houses.html http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastryaspects.html http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/astrology-marriage.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17513 http://www.astrotheme.com/synastry_advice.php http://www.astrology-x-files.com/synastry/ascendant.html http://astrologyfiles.com/free-horoscope-matching/ http://www.skyviewzone.com/lovematch/sunsynastryhouse.htm
Communications in synastry is very important, and this article discussed the elements involved ie: fire, earth air and water http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/synastrymercury.html

When the Moon in one person's chart forms an aspect to another person's Uranus

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When the Moon is conjunct, square, quincunx, or opposition Uranus in synastry, the initial attraction can be exciting in an unconventional way. The Moon person feels a little off-center around the Uranus person, generally in a good way, but it depends greatly on the temperament of the Moon person. The Uranus person somehow enters into the Moon person's life suddenly, and feelings that are stirred and aroused in Moon can be powerful.

Uranus interchart aspects create an electric chemistry that feels exciting and fascinating, and seem to promise a great time when there is an attraction in place. However, there can be a very unsettled feeling between the two people, and marked periods of vacillation between emotional closeness and emotional distance. The Moon person might complain that when he or she is feeling needy or simply desiring closeness, the Uranus person is absent (either physically or emotionally). The Uranus person might complain that the Moon person is too conservative, too domestic, or too somber at times. If the couple lives together, living arrangements are bound to be unusual, and there can be a marked lack of routine that is most unsettling to the Moon person. Even if this is the only hard aspect of Uranus in synastry, or if the couple has an overall sense of stability with one another, the presence of this aspect in their synastry will show up as a tendency to argue over domestic arrangements and routines, as well as a rollercoaster ride on an emotional level. Rebelliousness, especially on the part of the Uranus individual, with regards to conventional routines or domestic arrangements, as well as emotional intimacy, is a theme in this relationship. If hard interaspects of Uranus with personal planets appear elsewhere, the relationship probably started suddenly and developed quickly. This unexpected or erratic quality re-surfaces throughout the relationship as intermittent periods of nervousness and periodic disruptions. http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/moon_uranus_aspects.html


as synastries go this isn't too bad at all

You could have the best synastry in the world, but unless you have good communications, are honest with each other about your needs, wishes and desires and 'both' of you want the same things...........then nothing will happen. It cannot make anyone change, or love you more. Some challenging squares, oppositions in synastry can be healthy, and may require one or both of you to grow in some way. Astrological natal charts cannot explain environmental factors, financial handicaps/ restraints and what position you hold in society, neither can it tell you if you are of ‘Royalty’ or beggar.

I am of the belief that people come in and out of our lives for a reason, either we have to teach them something or we have to learn something from them. There is Always an exchange, good or bad.

Good luck with your journey

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JoJo
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posted February 23, 2012 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Saggi. That description of Moon/Uranus is pretty right on (if I dare to take an honest look). It's been something that we can talk about so far, but I wonder how soon one or both of us will get tired of the back and forth that it brings...

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posted February 24, 2012 02:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
He has a Taurus Sun conjunct his Saturn... and you are a Pisces - sextiling this conjunction... Plus your NN is there on his Saturn... It's actually very unlikely that he will end this relationship.
So if you do have your heart set on him and you want this to last - it will last as long as you want it to. It's also very easy for you to get just about *anything* out of him. If you happen to have your eye on an expensive watch or piece of jewelry... he *will* buy it (so feel free to *hint* lol)

But - I do agree with RunAround and Amelia that it's a bit scattered... You could easily feel like you need to get out of this relationship, in the future. It might become too serious for you and not passionate enough overall.
The decision will be yours as to whether you want this or not in the end. He would never take the initiative to break this off imo


Really? I see saturn sextile sun as positive aspect..

Sun sextile Saturn in synastry:

"There is a deep sense of mutual commitment and dedication that keeps the two of you together, even when you face difficult times. Saturn is very dedicated and loyal to Sun, sincerely interested in being responsible to Sun, and willing to make sacrifices when necessary. The two of you work well together on practical matters and business affairs. If you marry, you will find that you can rely on each other to be helpful and responsible." http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/sun_saturn_aspects.html

You need saturn contacts (6 valid ones in this case) in a relationship as they can act as cement for good OR bad..

Now looking at challenges ie: squares sun square moon may be quite challenging..

"The square between the Sun and the Moon in synastry is challenging, and is compounded by the fact that attraction between the two is quite possible. The Moon person eventually finds the Sun person overbearing, too rational, self-involved, and insensitive--even if the Sun person is not generally thought to possess these traits. The Sun person eventually finds the Moon person too dependent, temperamental, emotional, and sensitive. The Moon person, in his or her attempts to support the Sun person, can feel resentful. Disagreements on how to spend shared finances, how to raise children if there are any offspring, and how to spend leisure time are all strong possibilities. Even if both individuals work towards the same goals in their partnership, the method by which they go about getting there clashes with their partner's "style". Bickering, nagging, and general discontent can plague this relationship. Both parties must consciously work on avoiding putting each other in the position where they feel the need to defend their habits, opinions, and individual identities. Much energy can be wasted in little battles that are generally a reflection of each person's inner battles. Competitiveness may be stimulating for awhile, but it can also be very draining, especially if the individuals share a lot of time and space with each other. http://www.cafeastrology.com/synas

saturn sextile venus
saturn sextile mars
saturn trine neptune
saturn sextile mercury
venus trine moon
mercury trine pluto
jupiter sextile venus
venus trine uranus
mars sextile saturn
North Node conj Sun is very very important and karmic and suggests a Learning Lesson for both
North Node conj mercury another excellent indicator of karmic link
Both Node and Saturn are both very karmic features in this synastry.

I may not have got all the aspect but the majority are soft easy aspects. So good luck

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posted October 11, 2012 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Betty Boop:
He has a Taurus Sun conjunct his Saturn... and you are a Pisces - sextiling this conjunction... Plus your NN is there on his Saturn... It's actually very unlikely that he will end this relationship.
So if you do have your heart set on him and you want this to last - it will last as long as you want it to. It's also very easy for you to get just about *anything* out of him. If you happen to have your eye on an expensive watch or piece of jewelry... he *will* buy it (so feel free to *hint* lol)

But - I do agree with RunAround and Amelia that it's a bit scattered... You could easily feel like you need to get out of this relationship, in the future. It might become too serious for you and not passionate enough overall.
The decision will be yours as to whether you want this or not in the end. He would never take the initiative to break this off imo


Wow... I didn't believe it at the time, but you girls were right. Things got...obsessive. It got to a point where I felt like I couldn't breathe anymore. I had three men friends in three separate conversations of their own volition express their concerns for my safety. Needless to say, that got my radar up and I wondered what I was missing.

Long story short, I ended things last night and he went bat sh*t crazy on me. I need to play nice until I can get him to move out, but I'm really dreading the drama waiting for me when I get home tonight.

I was caught flat footed because I never expected him to become so obsessive/possesive with me. It got down right creepy, and that's when I knew I had to get out. I just hope he goes away and doesn't become a stalker. I don't need that in my life right now...

Guess you never know how things are going to turn out.

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posted October 11, 2012 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karmic Soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi JoJo -

Wow! Sorry to see this didn't work out for you, and yes - better safe than sorry. Listen to your intuition and take care of yourself.

I do think it's very cool that you came back and updated everyone about your situation. Personally, I like to see update--it connects people, I think. It also allows for the opportunity to improve their chart reading skills.

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posted October 13, 2012 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm also happy to see you came back and gave feedback!

Be safe and keep an eye out for composites with no substance to them, esp mostly afflictions, like this one. It means the relationship will not be healthy. Some realize this sooner than others and it becomes just a passing thing, but that's terrible when you realize it later.

Amazing how Betty Boop was right about the Taurus sun not wanting to end the relationship, though.

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posted October 15, 2012 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG!!!! You guys are not going to believe this. I'm still shocked and trying to process this twisted turn of events.

As you all know, his behavior coupled with my gut instinct to get away from him ASAP finally overruled my attempts to align my heart with my head and I broke it off with him. He had been crying and begging me not to end things and kick him out so much that I felt super guilty and my resolve began to waiver. I started second guessing myself because he had never done a thing wrong to me. All he ever did was love me and dote on me (okay and obsess over me).

Imagine my surprise when I received an email yesterday filled with the most vile, disgusying, X-rated texts he had been sending to this woman. There were also images of him naked that were taken in my home. Turns out he started seeing her back in 2009 and has been in and out of her life ever since. I cross checked the texts with our cell phone bill and there were hundreds of texts back and forth between them. I also found the same texting patterns with two other women as well.

I never saw this coming and never thought for one second he would be a cheater. We had our issues but we always got along to well and up until the end, were close and affectionate. I felt awful because I had no justifiable reason to break up with him. I just followed my instincts (and felt guilty for it because he had never done a thing to deserve me leaving him). I felt like such a bad person for breaking his heart like that. He was so sad and pathetic that I began to wonder what was wrong with me.

The email I received with all those texts and images confirmed that my intuition was dead on and I was right to end things. It felt so good to confront him and throw him out of my home last night. The only time my instincts have ever been wrong is when I ignored them; and you can bet ill never do that again.

I'm so angry that it's going to take me a very long time to process this. But I'm curious - was this indicated anywhere in our synastry or composite?

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posted October 19, 2012 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe Uranus square moon in synastry and Neptune square Mars in composite.

Sorry to hear you're hurting just glad you found out now and not years after wasted time.

He probably didn't want to let go because the composite Venus is conjunct his Sun.

Take care hun.

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posted October 22, 2012 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I posted this in the Asteroid forum http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001465.html , but check out the crazy Lie/Swindle asteroid contacts...

It turned out he was carrying on sexual texting affairs with 12 (yes twelve!) women total.

I'm really kinda freaked out about astrology right now...

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