posted February 24, 2012 06:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Also, Sun-Moon-square in composite is nothing to be scared of. Simply increases the emotional intensity in a relationship.

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posted February 24, 2012 09:15 AM            

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posted February 24, 2012 10:56 AM            

I've looked up most of the aspects and have made myself dizzy with interpretations and impressions.

It's always so much better to have somebody else look at your stuff!

posted February 24, 2012 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Yin:
Nudge, nudge.

I've looked up most of the aspects and have made myself dizzy with interpretations and impressions.

It's always so much better to have somebody else look at your stuff!

Please?

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problem here is you have not reduced the orb ratio down to 40% as max mainstream orbs are no more than 3' between planets..

But good point is you have posted the aspect grid and you can visibly see the aspects over 3'
I would discount semi squares, sesiquadrates or quintiles. I don't use them in natal charts and certainly wouldn't bother using in synastry...

If you don't have a definate TOB for him, you cannot rely on Asc or moon aspects?

Aquarius and Virgo are quincunx signs 150' away from each other

Virgo is mutable and earth. Now Virgo is very similar to Scorpio insomuch as they are both extremely analytical, but Virgo is ‘born worrier’ same as Cancer, these two signs can really worry for the rest of us. They do keep churning things over and over and this can cause mental stress. Can be quite, sit at the back of classroom, wants to go unnoticed, power behind the throne. You find a lot of Virgo’s in banking/finance or complimentary therapies. Do have a thing about health and hygiene, most are very clean but some are complete opposites. Can nitpit and sometimes pay too much attention to small details and not look at broader bigger picture. Can be sarcastic, critical and very restless, cos it’s a ‘mutable sign’ and all the mutable signs are restless! There is nothing restless about Aries, can make decisions in snap instant and really wouldn’t appreciate nit picking. Aries wants to start lots projects, have a go at allsorts and Virgo does not want to scatter its energies, it focused and practical. Virgo probably wouldn’t appreciate the direct approach cos it wants to look deeply into things first, weigh up pros and cons

Aquarius tends to talk to lots of people but can be rather private sign as well. Very humanitarian will always fight the cause for the underdog. Good with computers, electronics doesn’t do hospitals or sick people. Very talkative and this is the only sign I have found that tries and wants to stay friends with the ex. Friendship is first thing they look for in relationships, second they want the mental connection and rappor and certainly want their minds stimulating before their bodies (sorry Aries, Taurus and Scorpio). Well maybe if you talk dirty to them then……. Virgo wants details, information, depth and practicalities while Aquarians want freedom, independence and to talk about allsorts with lots different people. Virgo nitpicking may become a problem cos Aquarius is really humanitarian, fights the cause for underdog. Virgo may think Aquarians are all talk and no action here……

next, sun in cancer and sun in Saggi again both quincunx signs..

Cancer is cardinal and water sign. All water signs play on peoples feelings and probably Scorpio is worst for doing this. All four cardinal signs want to start, initiate projects ie: get things moving, not always great at finishing though. Cancer is like Capricorn shrewd in business and good with money and hanging onto it. Very sensitive, moody (all water signs are) and nostalgic. Very strongly attached to family members, home roots and home and emotional security very important to them. You find a lot of cancerians and water signs in the caring professions, nursing, caring for elderly etc. Like food and cooking.

Aquarius and Sagittarius belong to group of three signs, Aries last one that will always want and need lots of freedom and independence and freedom of movement in particular within relationships. Cancer will never understand this requirement, they will feel that family should be enough for anyone cos it is for them. Both these signs want a social life and social contact with people and Cancer may feel bit left out and of course moody and oversensitive with it.

Sagittarius is fire and mutable sign, therefore restless wants lots freedom and independence and movement within relationships. Sagittarius the sign of born careerist, teacher and traveller. Very philosophical, broad minded free thinking and duplicitous. ALL the mutable signs can be duplicitous, do as I say but not do as I do! Sagittarius doesn’t usually like being stuck at home doing nurturing it wants to be out having social life and social contact (and drink….) with people and independence.

All fire signs tend to act first and think later. Some Sagg can be bit of thrill of chase me merchants or catch me if you can, cos they like to play the field first and usually quite late for settling down. Cancer family is everything to Sag it is not, there is whole wide world out there……

Next, Fabulous moons in air and TRINE to each other exact degree

Pluto square sun is not great at all http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/sun_pluto_aspects.html

"Sun to Pluto. Obsession and jealousy. There can be a powerful attraction and a strong drive to succeed together. But Pluto can be controlling and compulsive. If positive: has the ability to make great changes in their lives and others.’" http://www.astrologyfiles.com/free-horoscope-matching/

sun conj neptune is not great and someone is overidealising....

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Hard aspects between the Sun and Neptune in synastry can be rather tricky, but certainly not unmanageable. In a very few cases, outright deception is involved with this aspect. However, in most relationships with this energy, conscious deception is not an issue. What can happen, however, is that the relationship starts off with a mystical and decidedly romantic air to it. You may have felt that you met "the one", and the Sun person, in particular, may project too many qualities (often unrealistically wonderful ones!) onto the Neptune person. The Neptune person will likely be charmed by the attention, and may be inclined at times to feed the Sun person's imagination in order to keep his or her devotion levels high. This is not a conscious attempt to deceive the Sun person!

As I have mentioned elsewhere, Neptune in synastry has often been associated with one person trying to deceive another person, but in reality, this happens much less frequently than the following, more probable scenario: the Neptune person tends to "play along" with the personal planet person's image, and the intention is not to hurt that person. What can happen is that the Neptune person ends up promising more than he or she can give. If the Neptune person eventually backs out, or slips away slowly, the Sun person can feel saddened and even slighted, feeling that Neptune was misleading. Misunderstandings can be the result, and every attempt should be made to keep the dreams and visions of the relationship not only realistic, but also clear and defined. In most cases, Neptune does not want to hurt Sun, and this may be the motivating factor behind Neptune's tendency to avoid bursting Sun's bubble. The Sun person should attempt to avoid putting the Neptune person on a pedestal as well. Both of you should consciously try to avoid offering each other unrealistic hopes. http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/sun_neptune_aspects.html

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posted February 24, 2012 01:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Yin:
Hmm, I just realized that my Sun-Moon midpoint conjuncts his IC by 2. Significant?

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not so much,when using midpoints they should be max 1'30"

Basic astrology forum, Learn Midpoints http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?ac tion=topics&forum=Basic+Astrology&number=12&DaysPrune=
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

mars conj saturn can suggest stop/go type of relationship, with delays and frustrations. http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/mars_saturn_aspects.html

there are some lovely easy aspects, look for triangles like sun trine uranus and use some of the sites i've quoted for research..

Although synastry is a valuable tool with astrology it cannot 'make things happen' even if you have the best synastry in the world unfortunately.

You could have the best synastry in the world, but unless you have good communications, are honest with each other about your needs, wishes and desires and 'both' of you want the same things...........then nothing will happen. It cannot make anyone change, or love you more. Some challenging squares, oppositions in synastry can be healthy, and may require one or both of you to grow in some way. Astrological natal charts cannot explain environmental factors, financial handicaps/ restraints and what position you hold in society, neither can it tell you if you are of ‘Royalty’ or beggar.

I am of the belief that people come in and out of our lives for a reason, either we have to teach them something or we have to learn something from them. There is Always an exchange, good or bad.

Good luck with your journey

posted February 24, 2012 05:08 PM            

As a disclaimer:
I believe that the synastric aspects only show potential, but when you want to know what is possible NOW, you should check the progressions (and transits).

Anyway, having said that, this is what I have been thinking:

I noticed that you have a "true conjunction", as your Saturn is conjunct and parallel his ASC.
To me this looks very karmic and serious.
it is certainly not a shallow connection, but also at the same time not always the most easy or lighthearted, and at times he might feel the gravity too much.
On the other hand you could bring a sense of structure and groundedness into his life, and certainly you will want to manifest this connection in "reality" and on a stable ground to build on. Definitely a constellation that could bind you for a long time together (or even if not in body, then this relationship will definitely leave a lasting impression).

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There is a pretty good personal and emotional compatibility.
With Moon trine Moon emotional understanding is assured. Since both Moons are in Air sign there is a similar need for communication.
With your ASC-ruler trine his Sun, both being in water signs, this further emphasizes the emotional compatibility along with the importance of family and the feeling of somehow “belonging together”.

One of the strongest and most obvious aspects is the conjunction of both DESC-rulers, which indicates that you have similar needs and wishes in relationships, which should help you to agree on what kind of relationship you want to have.

In terms of “relational compatibility”, how you function in a relationship, or how you relate to each other, there is predominantly smooth sailing, but with some spicy aspects thrown in there.

The conjunctions of 7th and 8th house ruler is a bit like a personalized Venus-Pluto-conjunction, and indicates a very passionate and intense relating to each other.

Where it gets a bit spicy and even challenging is his Mars squaring your ASC-DESC-axis. Maybe he is coming on too strong at times? Since this is happening in fixed signs, issues surrounding stubbornness, pride, jealousy and possessiveness may crop up now and then. Specifically he might shows tendencies to possessiveness, especially since his Venus AND Mars are in Taurus. He needs to feel secure and that he “has” you, and the independence and friendliness to other people as your Aquarius-ASC shows, might sometimes make him feel a bit insecure. Maybe you sometimes also seem a bit too “far out there” with your innovative ideas.
On the other hand this also shows a very sexy, passionate and sensual attraction from him to you. He might want to have frequent physical contact with you. (Taurus-Scorpio is very passionate/ sensual as you know; I could imagine that he wants to touch you a lot, though his Aqua-Moon could of course act as a modifier).

posted February 24, 2012 05:09 PM            

His 7th house ruler conjuncts your Sun and also your intercepted ASC-ruler. Both relate to your identity: The Sun more in terms of how you “are”, and the ASC-ruler of course brings your physicality and instinctive expression of yourself into play.
Since these two are being conjunct his 7th house ruler he feels strongly drawn to you on a romantic level, and might even believe that you are his “perfect partner”. You simply embody qualities that he is attracted to and needs (no matter if he is is aware of it or not – he will simply be drawn to you).

His 8th house ruler is the same as his 7th house ruler, so his 8th house ruler also conjuncts your Sun and your intercepted ASC-ruler. The 8th house is about sexual intimacy and deep primal passions. He feels a raw intense passionate sexual and emotional attraction to you. You may even bring him in contact with deep seated complex psychological aspects of his own soul. The passion and merging in the 8th house is so intense and unrelenting, that the depth of his feelings for you may sometimes scare him. The 8th house goes so deep that sometimes people rather turn the attraction into antagonism than allowing the allconsuming passion to emerge and allowing themselves to get totally transformed.
Hopefully he can handle it though.

III. Fatedness and Karma / Intensifiers

First of all his Pluto conjuncts your NN, and your Pluto almost conjuncts his NN, which means you will hae that in composite as well. I guess part of the purpose of meeting is to totally transform each other. Of course this is a vry generational aspect though.
But Pluto rules his IC, which definitely personalizes it. Somehow the connection to his soul, roots, family and home will be an important part of your lifepath.

Other than that I noticed a definite emphasis on Neptune aspects. I just want to single out one. That is that you have a DW of Neptune conjunct DESC-ruler.
Oh wow! Talk about magic. Lol
Seriously, you are both enchanted and feel like under a spell. In the very least you are very fascinated with each other, and might even think that the other one is your true soulmate. This might well be true. But with Neptune you never know. Most of the times we see a bit more in it than there really is.
But nevertheless it is a very romantic, beautiful, dreamy, spelllike, magical romantic feeling there, and the fascination is mutual.

posted February 25, 2012 04:55 PM            

Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

posted February 26, 2012 07:39 AM            

I am happy it resonated with you. It means I must have been doing something right.

posted February 26, 2012 01:29 PM            

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Confused though. Why did you go on explaining all about Virgo vs. Aqua? His TOB is accurate BTW.
Our ASC are closer to an opposition than an inconjunct at least by degree. The Virgo rising fits him to a tee (so far) but the Aqua Rising in my chart is modified quite a bit. I love caring for people, am not afraid of hospitals and am more of a feeling/intuitive person with that Sun-Neptune.

Why did you mention Aries?

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If I mentioned Aries it was not in connection with you OR your synastry

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Friendship is first thing they look for in relationships, second they want the mental connection and rappor and certainly want their minds stimulating before their bodies (sorry Aries, Taurus and Scorpio).

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I love nurturing. If you met me, you'd know it's true. I like growing things, plants or relationships

Umm, I'm actually a big homebody. I love people, yes, but I also love my castle (wherever that may happen to be at the moment. I do admit to having a bit of a gypsy spirit in me.) My family stands above all else and I mean my birth family. It takes me years to develop my friendships but when they've stood the test of time, they are forever.

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AND this is because of what? you have 3planets in 4th house that cancer normally rules. So I would have been shocked if you didn't identify with cancer traits. Point is we were not delinating YOUR natal chart BUT your synastry chart....

ceridwan,

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I noticed that you have a "true conjunction", as your Saturn is conjunct and parallel his ASC.
To me this looks very karmic and serious.

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I have this in synastry with my partner. My Saturn is conj his Asc. I am 10 years older and he would see me as the responsible,stable influence in his life.

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The conjunctions of 7th and 8th house ruler is a bit like a personalized Venus-Pluto-conjunction, and indicates a very passionate and intense relating to each other

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Neptune pisces may make it more spiritual in feeling and sun equals a personal ego, pride and values...

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Ascendant quincunx Ascendant: This combination shows that the two of you have a very different outlook and philosophy of the world and that your visceral reactions, likes and dislikes are very dissimilar. Common ground is likely to be scarce here. It would be an indication that there is lack of interest between the two of you, or that there is some temporary purpose for your knowing this person. However, other indications must be considered. In some cases, these two people may be trying to avoid eachother. http://www.astrology-x-files.com/synastry/ascendant.html

Ascendant : This aspect is difficult and frequently a source of argument and conflict. The two of you will usually have trouble seeing eye to eye on the same issues. When problems arise, the two of you will usually differ on the best course of action. If many difficult aspects are present then this is an indication that the two of you may end up enemies to eachother. See if the Mars individual was born during the day or the night. If it was daylight, then the Mars individual is usually the source of the problems. If the Mars individual was born at night, then the ascendant individual would usually do well to compromise or take the advice of the Mars individual.

Ascendant : This is a positive aspect and tends to create alliances and friendships. There is goodwill between these two people and this goes a long way to creating an atmosphere of trust in any relationship. This aspect sometimes indicates a joint interest in philosophical or religious issues and they sometimes get together to help those less fortunate.

Ascendant : This union tends to be a bit difficult. The Saturn individual should watch a tendency to become a wet blanket to the ascendant individual's aims and objectives in life especially if the Saturn person was born at night. Often the ascendant individual feels blocked or inhibited in some way by the Saturn individual with the end result being that the ascendant individual does not feel good or confident about him/herself. With other aspects being positive, the Saturn individual can be a great teacher to the ascendant person and the ascendant person shows respect to the Saturn person

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planets aspecting each other ascendants *should* be noticable. I haven't listed them all but if you go to the above site, you can read them. Just discount any over 3'