posted August 05, 2012 12:22 PM            

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Originally posted by isabelle_lila:
Thank you but it's like a morsel of a star, you keep for a special occasion or when you feel pulled to open the box you have put it in. I feel like that with you because it's something I have no idea about and I'm very curious so it's even more tempting.

But I also feel that I want to appreciate to it fullest and before that I have to go throught whereabouts reading with a clearer mind and understand it.

I'm a libra, I'm very cerebral : I have to understand

As for your story, I think mine is different with my ex F because I understand part of it. But what I know ids the difficulty to separate from someone who touch you on every level. Because it demand an effort each time for everything. You miss him on every occasion.

Also I couldn't tell that I feel what F feels like you could with Josh. But the other way around was true. F moods was in syn with mine. He always know when something was bothering me. So his refusal to speak to me when I was so suffering was even more difficult to me to bear.

So for this part, I could not tell you how you could ease your pain. But as for the missing part, I always tell myself that real love is let someone leave and respect it. It's the highest form of respect and caring I know. And knowing I'm true to my principal makes me feel better.

Also whereabouts (I hope it's her) told me something very true : if it was meant to be, it will be.

I know the suffering don't go away like that and in my case, it's more like I successed in regain serenity for it flame came back to me.
So it's a process (a long one when you have been touched like you) but I wanted you to know that I understand and if I had a magical potion, I will share it with you

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posted August 05, 2012 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by novembermuse:
isabelle_lila...I thank you so much for your kind words. I wish I had a magic potion also and of course I would share it with you too. You keep that star in your pocket and when you need it to guide you I will be here for you!! Currently my mind is at war with what my heart and soul knows. I can't get my mind to shut up and accept what is the truth. When whereabouts wished above all things for me to have peace of mind during my reading, I didn't know at the time how much I was going to need that peace of mind. I don't know how to get my mind to accept the truth. My mind keeps telling me my heart and soul are wrong. At this moment I don't know which one is right. Do you trust your heart and soul as the truth or do you trust your thoughts as the truth? I don't know. Intuition vs thoughts who will win?

Because I have so much going on within me, I haven't been keeping up with your reading with whereabouts. But whatever you are dealing with I hope it works out in the end. My best friend of 30 plus years is a Libra and sometimes I have to make up her mind for her. I am a Scorpio with a Pisces moon. Wishing you all the best in the world! NM

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posted August 05, 2012 04:03 PM            

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posted August 05, 2012 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by novembermuse:
I need help! I know Josh is my twin soul. He knows it also. He had to let me go because as he put it "i'm in no position at all to be in a relationship". I know why he is in no "position". The "position" will not last along time. He will overcome that which oppresses him this I feel deeply. I had to let him go because he had to let me go. I have known from the beginning there were going to be delays in getting our relationship off the ground. Most of what has occured so far I have known and felt. Today I read in astrology 2.0 (link to a website) about twin souls and most of the time they only last for a brief time. Now I am wondering if that will be us. So my question is this: Will Josh and I be together again in this lifetime? If so what do you see for us?

Thank you so much in advance!!!!!!

In light and love. NM

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posted August 05, 2012 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
If you and your Josh would have been twin souls as you claim you are you wouldnt be having problems. Twin souls once united don't get separated. Soulmates does. What you and Josh are karmic soulmates. You don't need tarot and astrology for that. Deep down you already know the answer, don't you? The problem is that you don't want to accept the facts as they are. Simple.

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I thought the same thing until I was led to this site www.astrostar.com/twinsouls.htm

"Twin soul relationships tend to be short-lived. These are the reasons that we've seen so far: death, explosiveness from the intensity of being with your mirror, spiritual immaturity of one or both partners, and most often, obligation to an already committed relationship/marriage."

I can relate to the "explosiveness from the intesity of being with your mirror" and so does he. I am a Scorpio and intensity does not scare me until he and I happened. I can also relate to the "spiritual immaturity of one or both partners". He is the spiritual immature one.

Everyone has their opinion and I respect that. I don't have all the answers about this twinsoul business. I never had a need to know until now. For now what I discorved feels right. I was led to this website for a reason. I believe in where the signs lead me. In light and love. NM

posted August 05, 2012 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
If you and your Josh would have been twin souls as you claim you are you wouldnt be having problems. Twin souls once united don't get separated. Soulmates does. What you and Josh are karmic soulmates. You don't need tarot and astrology for that. Deep down you already know the answer, don't you? The problem is that you don't want to accept the facts as they are. Simple.

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I disagree completely. Those comments if applied would create a paradox.

What can never be separated won't be separated, ever, therefore there's no need to look for it; it can't be separated so it's already there. You can't find what you didn't lose and can't lose it if it can never be separated.

posted August 05, 2012 04:46 PM            

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Originally posted by novembermuse:
I gladly accept!! Thank you!!

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posted August 05, 2012 06:35 PM            

Whats your synastry/composite like with Josh?

I have hard square aspects with my guy i think... Not fun

I have not concluded a personal opinion about twin souls yet... But I do know, that YOU DO KNOW when you meet your mirror image. You know in the depths of your heart and soul when you meet your other half.

posted August 05, 2012 08:44 PM            

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Novembermuse,

Whats your synastry/composite like with Josh?

I have hard square aspects with my guy i think... Not fun

I have not concluded a personal opinion about twin souls yet... But I do know, that YOU DO KNOW when you meet your mirror image. You know in the depths of your heart and soul when you meet your other half.

How that plays out in your long term destiny is the tough question...

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June...It seemed easier just to post the synastry in a new thread than type everything out.

We have a lot of Chiron aspects that feels heavy other than that I like it just fine.

Yes you do know in the depths of your heart and soul despite what your mind tries to tell you.

posted August 05, 2012 08:46 PM            

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Originally posted by whereabouts:
You are most welcome, oh deserving one. LOL

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posted August 05, 2012 09:08 PM            

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Originally posted by novembermuse:
June...It seemed easier just to post the synastry in a new thread than type everything out.

We have a lot of Chiron aspects that feels heavy other than that I like it just fine.

Yes you do know in the depths of your heart and soul despite what your mind tries to tell you.

So have you told your J yet?

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@novembermuse,

Awesome... Iam not good at chart readings. Still disecting my own astro dna lol but it will be good practice for me... Hopefully some of our other amazing astro experts will chime in on your chart...

He knows how i feel... But i think he has brainwashed himself. I even ate crow and reached out. Nothing. The strangement and wall is still in effect. It might not happen for me afterall. Its been way too many months of obstacles of this block now

posted August 05, 2012 09:23 PM            

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@novembermuse,

Awesome... Iam not good at chart readings. Still disecting my own astro dna lol but it will be good practice for me... Hopefully some of our other amazing astro experts will chime in on your chart...

He knows how i feel... But i think he has brainwashed himself. I even ate crow and reached out. Nothing. The strangement and wall is still in effect. It might not happen for me afterall. Its been way too many months of obstacles and this block now

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posted August 05, 2012 11:15 PM            

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Originally posted by novembermuse:
I am so sorry to hear that. I wish things could be different for you. But you never know what the future will bring though. Like I said if it was meant to be then it will. I hope you two can come together I really do!! I will send out wishes in abundance!! NM

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@novembermuse,

posted August 06, 2012 02:14 AM            

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Originally posted by whereabouts:
I disagree completely. Those comments if applied would create a paradox.

What can never be separated won't be separated, ever, therefore there's no need to look for it; it can't be separated so it's already there. You can't find what you didn't lose and can't lose it if it can never be separated.

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posted August 06, 2012 07:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
I don't give a damn if you agree or disagree with me. Get used to it and get over. My opinion is my opinion. Is that clear?

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posted August 06, 2012 08:00 AM            

Actions speak clearly where words create illusions.

posted August 06, 2012 08:44 AM            

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Originally posted by whereabouts:
I disagree completely. Those comments if applied would create a paradox.

What can never be separated won't be separated, ever, therefore there's no need to look for it; it can't be separated so it's already there. You can't find what you didn't lose and can't lose it if it can never be separated.

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posted August 06, 2012 09:07 AM            

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Originally posted by novembermuse:
Throughout this whole ordeal I NEVER for one nano of a second felt I was separated from him it was the opposite I felt him in the depth of my heart and soul. He is my twin soul. I will ALWAYS continue to feel him even if we are not going to be the together in the lifetime. It is destined in the stars if we are or aren't going to be together. I accept the fact that it might not happpen.

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posted August 06, 2012 09:30 AM            

"If" a twin soul is a spiritual reality (and I say "if" because at this point not a single one of us has made the full journey and can say definitively whether or not that is accurate. We can only "believe" and have "faith"), then meeting and coming together many times over is more probable than not. Once your soul completes this portion of it's journey, this portion being the journey on Earth and the many lives lived in the process while learning peace and forgiveness in it's entirety, they will longer live on Earth for they will have passed the test and moved up a rung on the spiral and into the next phase of their spiritual existence, their next journey. At what point twin flames/souls will be together infinitely no one can say. Whether their being linked together for all eternity means a physical togetherness, no one can say but based on the nature of spirit and it's existence which is NON PHYSICAL I would suspect that all physical earth beliefs on what humans believe will fall short of what is real. On earth, all we know is fixed and with ends but in the spirit world it is the exact opposite for spirit is infinite.

Anyone who claims to "know" definitively and is not objective about it, has no clue what spirit is all about. Our limited human minds have a difficult time understanding infinite existence because we know of none except if we "believe" in spirit.

Maybe fixed endings is an indication of what is? I don't know, I haven't completed my journey yet but when I do, and I have the answers, I'll be sure to let you know.

posted August 06, 2012 10:11 AM            

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One must wonder why Rosalind is so vengeful, so vindictive, so ruthless with words, so vile, and so mean. How can anyone so languid in the mind do the work of spirit who is always forgiving, always kind, and never cruel? They answer is they can't. It is impossible for an individual whose thoughts are that dark to be wise about spirit.

Actions speak clearly where words create illusions.

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posted August 06, 2012 10:41 AM            

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Originally posted by novembermuse:
The answer is simple and I know I am opening up a can of worms by repling with the answer but I am being told to open that can...She does not like nor love herself. She is at war with herself and it spills out in everything she does and feels. I have been surrounding her with white light from the first time I came in contact with her. She does have "gifts" but until she learns to like then love herself she will always express herself with anger and obstinantness.

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posted August 06, 2012 10:42 AM            

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Originally posted by novembermuse:
The answer is simple and I know I am opening up a can of worms by repling with the answer but I am being told to open that can...She does not like nor love herself. She is at war with herself and it spills out in everything she does and feels. I have been surrounding her with white light from the first time I came in contact with her. She does have "gifts" but until she learns to like then love herself she will always express herself with anger and obstinantness.

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posted August 06, 2012 11:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by novembermuse:
[b] The answer is simple and I know I am opening up a can of worms by repling with the answer but I am being told to open that can...She does not like nor love herself. She is at war with herself and it spills out in everything she does and feels. I have been surrounding her with white light from the first time I came in contact with her. She does have "gifts" but until she learns to like then love herself she will always express herself with anger and obstinantness.

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posted August 06, 2012 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by whereabouts:
You're so thoughtful of others, NM. It is so nice to be in contact with and within the energy field of someone like you.

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