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doommlord
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posted August 11, 2012 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
could not really relate to it,maybe because of neptune conjuct uranus aspect

maybe.....this type of aspect isnt really strong so other stronger aspects overcome its influence

how much do you know about your NN and pluto conjunction?

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posted August 11, 2012 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by doommlord:
maybe.....this type of aspect isnt really strong so other stronger aspects overcome its influence

how much do you know about your NN and pluto conjunction?


not much..could not really find much about it

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posted August 11, 2012 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
not much..could not really find much about it

im surprised that my little database does not hold information on it

im searching on the web and these are some of the things i found

" once read that Pluto to NN means a complete transition to another way of life; in effect, an old way 'dies', possibly 'violently' in the metaphorical sense if there are harsh aspects to Pluto. A 'new' life develops that is the path towards fulfilling the meaning of the NN. Better to have the conjunction to NN than to SN, I'd say. It's better to be drawn towards the new way than remain obsessed by an old pattern, isn't it?"

"Pluto Conjunct North Node. You think you've got it all figured out? Think again. Look deeper. Take nothing for granted. Scrutinize the hidden elements in your life. Seek to understand what isn't obvious, and you'll be way ahead of the game."

"* A conjunction between the North Node and Pluto indicates a person who often seems to be forced to take some sort of separative or eliminative action in order to grow. Relationships with groups or individuals seem to play a major role in the growth process. Leadership abilities enhance growth.
* Pluto conjunct the North Node (True node) is a huge thing. This symbolizes urgent matters to be completed this lifetime of a critical nature involving a complete transformation of your orientation toward life.
Not only must you move from South Node to the North one, you must do it absolutely and with abandon, completely surrendering to the process of transformation. It is not possible for a person to change more than the person who has Pluto on their North Node is asked to, and if they refuse to change, they will meet this force outwardly as fate.

It is imperative that you get your will under God with this placement --"Thy will, not mine". To be denied something we want or think we have to have or will die without is one of the faces of God and it is the face that Pluto, the god of evolution may present.
It also tends to teach that anything you put between you and God, anything you want more than God, will be taken from you. I have seen this happen and it's not pretty, so that's why I say get your will under God now. If you are willing to lose everything / anything you will not need to.
Early in life like this you may encounter real events. If something wants to leave your life now (or ever) let it. Let go of everything right now. It is better than losing your arm because you are holding on too tightly. If you start messing with Pluto in a rebellious way like it sounds like you may be, it can bring violence to you, accidents, etc., getting caught in some crossfire.
* North Node w/ Pluto Conjunction: points out one has to make a tremendous effort in this life to transcend destruction and annihilation to redemption. If not, self-centered, egotistic, childish behaviour which covers frustration and nervousness work emotional destructive to oneself and others around. Transit Pluto square radix Pluto will trigger this need to give in to oneself, become vulnerable and transcend. The succeeding progressive new and full moons give opportunities to fulfill one's special mission.
* Indicates one evolutionary or karmic condition that applies to all charts. The individual has been working to transform the area represented by the house and sign locality of conjunction within the last few lifetimes, ans is meant to continue in that direction. The results of the evolutionary transformation can create tremendous growth in this life. Every other contributing factor in the birth chart will be channeled or focused through the North Node CONJ Pluto. The principle of Pluto polarity point does not apply in this particular condition. However, there are mitigating factors that we need to consider. If a planet conjuncts or aspects the South Node, then the same 3 conditions under the discussion of Pluto CONJ South Node can apply.

* Pluto conjunct North Node: These natives have far-reaching aspirations for penetrating to life, understanding life-and-death.
* Pluto Conjunct North Node. You think you’ve got it all figured out? Think again. Look deeper. Take nothing for granted. Scrutinize the hidden elements in your life. Seek to un-derstand what isn’t obvious, and you’ll be way ahead of the game.
* Pluto conjunct North Node: This person finds security in understanding the depths of their own psyche and other people's. They may be intensely committed to establishing safe emotional foundations. They tend to hang on in relationships, sometimes for too long. Issues of safety and protection may take on life-and-death proportions. Feelings of blame and shame may be connected to nurturing. Sex could be used as a security blanket. Their protective instincts seek psychological understanding. Looking deeper into psyches (their own and others') provides security for this individual"

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posted August 11, 2012 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by doommlord:
im surprised that my little database does not hold information on it

im searching on the web and these are some of the things i found

" once read that Pluto to NN means a complete transition to another way of life; in effect, an old way 'dies', possibly 'violently' in the metaphorical sense if there are harsh aspects to Pluto. A 'new' life develops that is the path towards fulfilling the meaning of the NN. Better to have the conjunction to NN than to SN, I'd say. It's better to be drawn towards the new way than remain obsessed by an old pattern, isn't it?"

"Pluto Conjunct North Node. You think you've got it all figured out? Think again. Look deeper. Take nothing for granted. Scrutinize the hidden elements in your life. Seek to understand what isn't obvious, and you'll be way ahead of the game."

"* A conjunction between the North Node and Pluto indicates a person who often seems to be forced to take some sort of separative or eliminative action in order to grow. Relationships with groups or individuals seem to play a major role in the growth process. Leadership abilities enhance growth.
* Pluto conjunct the North Node (True node) is a huge thing. This symbolizes urgent matters to be completed this lifetime of a critical nature involving a complete transformation of your orientation toward life.
Not only must you move from South Node to the North one, you must do it absolutely and with abandon, completely surrendering to the process of transformation. It is not possible for a person to change more than the person who has Pluto on their North Node is asked to, and if they refuse to change, they will meet this force outwardly as fate.

It is imperative that you get your will under God with this placement --"Thy will, not mine". To be denied something we want or think we have to have or will die without is one of the faces of God and it is the face that Pluto, the god of evolution may present.
It also tends to teach that anything you put between you and God, anything you want more than God, will be taken from you. I have seen this happen and it's not pretty, so that's why I say get your will under God now. If you are willing to lose everything / anything you will not need to.
Early in life like this you may encounter real events. If something wants to leave your life now (or ever) let it. Let go of everything right now. It is better than losing your arm because you are holding on too tightly. If you start messing with Pluto in a rebellious way like it sounds like you may be, it can bring violence to you, accidents, etc., getting caught in some crossfire.
* North Node w/ Pluto Conjunction: points out one has to make a tremendous effort in this life to transcend destruction and annihilation to redemption. If not, self-centered, egotistic, childish behaviour which covers frustration and nervousness work emotional destructive to oneself and others around. Transit Pluto square radix Pluto will trigger this need to give in to oneself, become vulnerable and transcend. The succeeding progressive new and full moons give opportunities to fulfill one's special mission.
* Indicates one evolutionary or karmic condition that applies to all charts. The individual has been working to transform the area represented by the house and sign locality of conjunction within the last few lifetimes, ans is meant to continue in that direction. The results of the evolutionary transformation can create tremendous growth in this life. Every other contributing factor in the birth chart will be channeled or focused through the North Node CONJ Pluto. The principle of Pluto polarity point does not apply in this particular condition. However, there are mitigating factors that we need to consider. If a planet conjuncts or aspects the South Node, then the same 3 conditions under the discussion of Pluto CONJ South Node can apply.

* Pluto conjunct North Node: These natives have far-reaching aspirations for penetrating to life, understanding life-and-death.
* Pluto Conjunct North Node. You think you’ve got it all figured out? Think again. Look deeper. Take nothing for granted. Scrutinize the hidden elements in your life. Seek to un-derstand what isn’t obvious, and you’ll be way ahead of the game.
* Pluto conjunct North Node: This person finds security in understanding the depths of their own psyche and other people's. They may be intensely committed to establishing safe emotional foundations. They tend to hang on in relationships, sometimes for too long. Issues of safety and protection may take on life-and-death proportions. Feelings of blame and shame may be connected to nurturing. Sex could be used as a security blanket. Their protective instincts seek psychological understanding. Looking deeper into psyches (their own and others') provides security for this individual"


looks like another nice hard aspect...
*bows down to pluto *

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posted August 11, 2012 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
looks like another nice hard aspect...
*bows down to pluto *

pluto is a strong planet indeed....ive got it strong in my chart and i LOVE all that it gave me

you wish me to post more articles about pluto aspects/positions?

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posted August 11, 2012 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by doommlord:
pluto is a strong planet indeed....ive got it strong in my chart and i LOVE all that it gave me

you wish me to post more articles about pluto aspects/positions?


only if you wish...
I know you have got Mars conjuct pluto,whats your outlet for it?do you have temper issues?I have temper issues.Does any aspect that indicate it?

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posted August 11, 2012 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
only if you wish...
I know you have got Mars conjuct pluto,whats your outlet for it?do you have temper issues?I have temper issues.Does any aspect that indicate it?

ive got a temper but i dont throw it out cause ive hurt many people with it....i go to the gym a lot....keeps me fit

pluto makes many squares in your chart...could be putting pressure on you especially since its your chart ruler ^^

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