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posted August 15, 2012 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hmm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how someone feels about you?

this card is coming up way to often for me for it to not mean something.
i was hoping to be able to ignore it because it's a hard card for me to read...but looks like i''m out of luck.

for one, lot's of ppl seem to be focused on the individual cup meanings...for some reason i don't think that's the way to go...for me it's a matter what do these cups create as a whole?

i've read it to mean fantacy...or unrealistic expecations...

the first time i got it ...the first thing that came to mind is someone that has a lot of options...(it made me not like it)
in my case
would it mean he views me as being undecisive and having a lot of choices..even a tad bit spoiled possibly....
or would it mean that i'm just another option for him?....

i've also seen it refered to as confusion...so he see's me as confused?

if it was his feelings in general i think i'd be able to make sense of it
but how he views me...?
i don't get it.
pretty sure his view of me is wrong if he views me as a 7 of cups.

also if you had to choose...which interpretaion would you go with? the fantasy one, confusion one or options one?

overall tho?... good? bad?

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posted August 15, 2012 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MetalAphrodite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got 7 of cups a couple of times on my own then later, it came up when my friend was doing a reading.

My interpretation is that there's all these fantastic visions that are crowding the mind. Kind of like fanciful daydreams in a way. That he imagines so many possibilities between the two of us.

My friend's interpretation was a possibility that I was projecting my own wants and desires on the object of my affection. That I was being unrealistic and seeing only what I wanted to see, rather than what was really there.

I actually wrote my love that night with the intention of clarifying things lol. It turns out my view was the right one in this case.

Is the 7 of Cups appearing with other cards? If so, what are they?

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posted August 15, 2012 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 7 of cups tells me that you have a lot of personal dreams, hopes and wishes. These feelings you are facing hinges on gaining more than loosing. Indecision and multiple choices in front of you. More often than not its wishful thinking. Seeing everything thru rose colored lenses.

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posted August 15, 2012 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hmm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Junethird:
The 7 of cups tells me that you have a lot of personal dreams, hopes and wishes. These feelings you are facing hinges on gaining more than loosing. Indecision and multiple choices in front of you. More often than not its wishful thinking. Seeing everything thru rose colored lenses.

so in this position it would mean he views me positivly?...what about the other options bit...
the two seem contradictory

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posted August 15, 2012 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hmm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thx for the personal refrence metalaphrodite

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posted August 15, 2012 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you're asking how he feels about you and you draw 7 of Cups, the answer is he doesn't know how he feels about you. He hasn't decided yet as he's still mulling it over in his mind. A lot of people interpret the Tarot (in these types of questions) as a conversation, like your question "How does he feel about me" and then you treat the card as a friend giving you a response "He feels this and this." I think it helps when you read the card from the person's perspective of whom your asking and you'll find it much easier to understand.

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posted August 15, 2012 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From personal experience it isn't good. Unrealistic, fantasies, and other things like that. Basically, the feelings aren't real, or they are just one sided..sort of. Depends on the other cards.

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posted August 15, 2012 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hmm:
so in this position it would mean he views me positivly?...what about the other options bit...
the two seem contradictory

Sure... He thinks you are wonderful. But its nothing tangible or stable. Its like thinking you have al these options in front of you to do, plan and hope for but its only the first date. Its all great and wonderful to day dream but castles made out of clouds dont amount to much..

Also other cards in your spread have to be taken into account. It could just be too early to tell how he really feels as he himself hasnt even decided or thought about too realistically in the longterm serious range.

Castles in the sky. Day dream. Fantasy. Talk is cheap without any decisive action behind it.

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posted August 15, 2012 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hmm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Junethird:
castles made out of clouds

wow..i'm not even sure you realize what you just did....
castles made out of clouds....awesome interpretation of the card!!!

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posted August 15, 2012 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agree with J3.

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posted August 15, 2012 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hmm:
wow..i'm not even sure you realize what you just did....
castles made out of clouds....awesome interpretation of the card!!!

Glad i could help goodluck

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posted August 16, 2012 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me 7 cups is a bit qui pro quo. Perhaps he doesn't see or know who you are exactly and harbours some kind of féerique images/visions of you

Also on second thoughts I can see Scorpio in this card. I really do. Compulsion. Perhaps temptation. Transformation or anticipation thereof.

A bit like what June said.

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posted August 16, 2012 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is a common keyword to this card, "building castles in the air".

The experience I have had with this card was that I was the one feeling the illusions and unrealistic thoughts, but as always look at the cards around it as well.

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posted August 16, 2012 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, that has been my experience with it as well. And, yes, the surrounding cards will solidify if that is the meaning, for example if with The High Priestess Reversed or the Heirophant Reversed, or the Knight of Cups Reversed, even the Page of Cups Reversed. Actually, any of the Court of Cups Reversed. But even the Magician Reversed would indicate that the seeker is viewing things incorrectly resulting in a mental unbalance that shows itself through poor choice of action or mannerisms, i.e.; faulty decisions. It is especially faulty thinking if it is combined with The Fool Reversed in the reading and possibly even if the Fool is upright, depending on surrounding cards.

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
That is a common keyword to this card, "building castles in the air".

The experience I have had with this card was that I was the one feeling the illusions and unrealistic thoughts, but as always look at the cards around it as well.


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posted August 16, 2012 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hmm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by andstuff:
For me 7 cups is a bit qui pro quo. Perhaps he doesn't see or know who you are exactly and harbours some kind of féerique images/visions of you

Also on second thoughts I can see Scorpio in this card. I really do. Compulsion. Perhaps temptation. Transformation or anticipation thereof.

A bit like what June said.


i have no idea how you came to the scorpio conclusion...but he does have his mars venus conjunct in the 8th house...
so i'm not going to doubt you :P

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posted August 16, 2012 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cups are ware water signs, Pisces, Scorpio, and Cancer.

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Originally posted by hmm:
i have no idea how you came to the scorpio conclusion...but he does have his mars venus conjunct in the 8th house...
so i'm not going to doubt you :P

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posted August 16, 2012 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in Scorpio - love of luxury stirred by desire. Animal nature demanding satisfaction at all costs (Venus in Scorpio afflicted).

Reversed this card represents that the imagination is focused, clear thinking. Planning is not affected by mood as it is when it's upright. The strong passionate nature is under control and is comfortable that way.

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posted August 16, 2012 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are far more planets then there are cards. The cards represent multiple planets and positions.

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posted August 16, 2012 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read that also, about this card symbolizing Venus in Scorpio. I dont know, it feels more like Venus in Pisces to me because of the air of dreams and Neptunian vibration of #7. Im a Venus in Scorpio, and while this brings intense desire, Scorpio is usually quite fixed in what it wants. I dont really see confusion with Scorpio at all. What do you all think about this card=Venus in Scorpio?

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posted August 16, 2012 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hmm:
i have no idea how you came to the scorpio conclusion...but he does have his mars venus conjunct in the 8th house...
so i'm not going to doubt you :P

2-4 cups are cancer
5-7 Scorpio
8-10 Pisces

The clown known as Aleister Crowley proposed a specific planet in a sign for each card, which probably goes with the deck he art directed created after RW

I remember having a discussion on this forum I initiated, posting the same question
There was an opinion that 7cups is Mercury in Pisces which is justifiable. Even though for me it does contain darker connotations, so I'd go for Scorpio. But not Venus because it is so possessive and triggers jealousy

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posted August 16, 2012 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly, "fixed on what they want". <--(just added that). As far as the Scorpio aspect, it is not so much the Neptunian dreams of Pisces but rather the Venus in Scorpio "desire" of "love" that can lead to illusionary pursuits, stopping at nothing to get what they want. The excessive "heart's desire" interferes with the ability to make sound choices.

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I read that also, about this card symbolizing Venus in Scorpio. I dont know, it feels more like Venus in Pisces to me because of the air of dreams and Neptunian vibration of #7. Im a Venus in Scorpio, and while this brings intense desire, Scorpio is usually quite fixed in what it wants. I dont really see confusion with Scorpio at all. What do you all think about this card=Venus in Scorpio?


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posted August 16, 2012 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 2 cents: The desire, needs, wants, hopes, wishes is there but not the drive behind it, its weak as this is not an action, go getter kinda card.

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posted August 16, 2012 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, that makes sense.

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posted August 16, 2012 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the insight. Im going to read more on origin of tarot. I have read a bit on Crowley & the golden dawn, but didnt know about his ordering. Still feel the 7 is more Neptune than Scorpio, totally agree that V in Scorpio's intensity does relate to confusion at times. Very interesting card, the emotions are there but the clarity of purpose is lacking.

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posted August 16, 2012 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PhoenixFire, here's a link to the complete history of Tarot, the real history. There are some sites out there that talk about it being an ancient thing, and even an Egyptian thing, but that is not true. Tarot was simply a card game that was adapted during the Renaissance period to help gain spiritual insight.
http://www.tarotpedia.com/wiki/Tarot_History

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