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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted August 23, 2012 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have any specific questions.

Many thanks for looking.

Highly appreciated and much obliged.


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posted August 23, 2012 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think your topic title is not as demanding and attention grabing as Sand's so it didn't raise a racket as over there.

I noticed some aspects. googled them and noticed they do fit your personality.

Moon trine Venus : http://cafeastrology.com: Whether male or female, these people have a well-developed respect for qualities typically associated with the feminine. As such, men with this aspect are often unusually popular with women, as they seem to be in touch with their softer, sympathetic side in a most natural manner that takes nothing away from their "masculinity". unless afflicted, this aspect promises personal popularity and success.
Mercury conjunct Mars: http://www.scribd.com : With your sharp mind, creative ideas, and aggressive disposition. Restless mind always eager for new information and can be argumentative and enjoys debating.
1st house chiron: Chiron is associated with the emotional wounds we receive early on in our lives. It may indicate also a journey of self discovery
Chiron square pluto(exact): Chiron-Transforming Bridge Between the Inner and Outer Planets" by Barbara Hand Clow
is a tense, difficult, and powerful aspect. This aspect creates such great stress that the native usually cannot relax and focus until after the Uranus opposite Uranus transit. Once the square is resolved, these natives tend to give their lives to others in service because they feel such deep empathy for the stress of other people. These natives are often misunderstood, even criticized, for their desire to help other people unlock their bonds. Sigmund Freud, Chart 51, had Chiron in the third square Pluto in the sixth. Freud actually healed many people and had a positive impact on the psychoanalytic field, yet you rarely hear praise of his work. The yoga teacher of Chart 20 had a very tense childhood and early adulthood with his family, as seen by Pluto and Saturn in the fourth, but teaching yoga is transmutative for him. Once he began to teach yoga and activate his healing powers, as seen by Chiron in the sixth, he began to relax. Chart 27, a Jungian analyst, has Chiron in the first square Pluto in the fifth. This native is releasing his energy by working on developing a teaching based on the wounded child (fifth house) in relationship to self-emergence (Chiron in Aries in the first house).

okie... i think someone else can give a better insight on your chart!

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posted August 23, 2012 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
finally...nice to meet another pisces riser here

do you put much interest in carrer?

does your work deals with money or property(doesent have to be physical)?

do you have intense and maybe a bit unstable partners? maybe strong changes in partnerships? did you marry someone who was your friend?
did your partner had disabilities?
did your partner revealed to you parts of yourself that were usually hidden?

are you argumentive? (i already know the anwser for that XD)

do you belive yourself to be convincing?

were you hurt as a child or abused in some way? maybe by potential partner?

do you feel like you understand other people hurts becuse you understand your pain very well?

do you restrain yourself a lot? or feel restrained?

did you have few actual friends or none at all?

are you putting more attention to having fun and pursuing hobbies you find interesting?or maybe learning to express yourself in a better way?

are you spiritual but dont follow any of the monotheistic religions?

do you feel like its hard for you sometimes to express your desire towarrds another?or express yourself with words?

that a start....so tell me what you think

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posted August 23, 2012 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow... doommlord, I would love to have you read my chart!!! Will you ?


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posted August 23, 2012 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
wow... doommlord, I would love to have you read my chart!!! Will you ?


put it up!...im just about to go shower and after that il have a clear mind to do you chart

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posted August 23, 2012 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by doommlord:
put it up!...im just about to go shower and after that il have a clear mind to do you chart

Yeah!!!!

i posted it on a new thread.

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posted August 23, 2012 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doomlord,

Thank you so much!

do you put much interest in career?

Yes, indeed. I place much effort in it. A lot of it also has to do with my childhood and the majority of people (especially one parent) who didn't think I would amount to much. So, I spent my life pretty much focused on achievement.

does your work deals with money or property(doesent have to be physical)?

Yes, I am a banker. I finance companies who provide goods and services to the public. I finance projects to build bridges, hospitals and schools. I finance power generation projects. I provide services to facilitate international trade.

do you have intense and maybe a bit unstable partners? maybe strong changes in partnerships?

I married a very strong willed partner with a dominant and aggressive personality.

We agreed to get married within one month of meeting each other and got married within three months.

did you marry someone who was your friend?

I didn't know my partner before meeting her. She quickly became my best friend in life. I have never had many friends who didn't outright disappoint me.

did your partner had disabilities?

My partner was a rape victim, as I am. You can surmise that since we are both dominant, Type A personalities, we are not exactly social creatures, even though she is a Leo Sun.

did your partner revealed to you parts of yourself that were usually hidden?

I'm not sure i know how to answer that.

I am quantitative person with deductive capabilities, and my partner is a qualitative person with artistic/creative abilities. I suppose I discovered my creative side after getting married, but I already actively wrote poetry [ask lilithpluto ]

My partner did reinforce and enhance parts of me that were already prevalent.

are you argumentive? (i already know the anwser for that XD)

I was captain and anchor for my college debate team, and we were Ivy League champions.

do you belive yourself to be convincing?

I try my best, but only when it is worth the effort. I don't always bother to pursue every single argument.

were you hurt as a child or abused in some way? maybe by potential partner?

I was heavily disciplined by my parents. I was disciplined by school. Discipline in that part of the world meant being whipped. I was whipped naked while tied to a tree after puberty.

I was sexually raped at knifepoint when I was 10 years old, with attempted anal and oral penetration.

do you feel like you understand other people hurts becuse you understand your pain very well?

I try my very best because I am intrinsically a giver and not a receiver. That is my number one criticism at work: willing to help everyone but unwilling to receive help.

do you restrain yourself a lot? or feel restrained?

I employ self-discipline. A lot of that has to do with a martial arts background and also a background of military service.

did you have few actual friends or none at all?

Almost none at all.

My first true girlfriend hurt me beyond belief by getting pregnant by my childhood best friend. I folded inwards with an apprehension towards both sexes and it psychologically took me a while to regain trust in others.

My best friends have ended up being only those I truly love romantically. I remain deeply in love with the women I did not marry and I am in love with a very selective few other women with whom I have not had a romantic relationship.

I have almost no male friends.

are you putting more attention to having fun and pursuing hobbies you find interesting?or maybe learning to express yourself in a better way?

I have always been fun loving throughout my life, but I have repressed a lot of that in order to advance my personal achievement.

Now that I am in a more advanced stage of my life, I am dedicating more time towards fun and enjoyment.

are you spiritual but dont follow any of the monotheistic religions?

Actually, I am monotheistic. I have been a life long Christian on my own accord. A large reason why I married my partner is that she shares the very same religious convictions, although that wasn't by any means the sole reason.

do you feel like its hard for you sometimes to express your desire towarrds another?or express yourself with words?

I am guarded when expressing my affections upfront, and generally remain silent. When it is time, I reveal it all.

I am an excellent communicator, as you know I have zero problems expressing myself verbally, and in fact, I have a reputation of raising eyebrows and dropping jaws when I speak.

I have a commanding presence at work, and even my boss and his boss become quiet when I speak in teh conference room. Part of it is professional respect, but part of it is that I communicate with no-nonsense precision-based impact, "telling it as it is."

that a start....so tell me what you think

That's a wonderful start Thank you so very much!!!

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posted August 23, 2012 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
I think your topic title is not as demanding and attention grabing as Sand's so it didn't raise a racket as over there.

I noticed some aspects. googled them and noticed they do fit your personality.


Thank you, dear!

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posted August 23, 2012 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well thank you i do have my moments

i know you heard that a million times and it wont vhange anything but i have to say it....

im sorry you were mistreated like this...by a rapist....by your friends....and by your parents...

i heard you came from and asian ancestry so i understand tha discipline there is hard but personally i dont see eye to eye with that system

not trying to compensate but all the things you went trough in life made you a wiser man today....there is a little comfort in that...

do you grow warmer with time?

i know it sounds like you are a frozen peace of meat but i meant emotionally....do you let yourself be more open about your life with time?were you more guarded when you were younger?

also...do you belive that an intellectual connection in marriage is as important as an emotional one?

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posted August 23, 2012 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are a genius with your questions. Sorry my answers are so dreary and depressing.


im sorry you were mistreated like this...by a rapist....by your friends....and by your parents...

I am sorry as well. It wrecked my childhood. I feel my life began after I was emancipated and started college. It allowed me to spread my wings and discover myself.

i heard you came from and asian ancestry so i understand tha discipline there is hard but personally i dont see eye to eye with that system

And neither do I. That's one of the reason why I became American and live exactly half a world away from where I grew up. That society continues to represent everything in life I disagree with and I unfortunately despise most of what that place stands for.

The only bright remant of that place in my life is lilithpluto. Without her presence in LL, I wouldn't really mind if I had nothing to do ever with that place.

Neither my father nor my brother see eye to eye with me. My mother has passed on.

not trying to compensate but all the things you went trough in life made you a wiser man today....there is a little comfort in that...

I do find solace in that and it is very meaningful to me.

Much of how I conduct myself today is a function of focusing on how to be different from my father. Just being the opposite of him has made me what I am, which I feel is better than what he represents. I try my very best to be a different husband and father to my boys than how my father behaved.

The irony is that I have the same exact career path as my father. And my grandfather.

do you grow warmer with time?

I have been warm since I left my birthplace.

I have become less self-repressed and opened myself up more to others since my 20s.

I have always had a polite disposition, but I did not become openly engaging and sociable until my late 30s.

i know it sounds like you are a frozen peace of meat but i meant emotionally....do you let yourself be more open about your life with time?were you more guarded when you were younger?

I was a frozen piece of meat when young. My youth was an unmitigated disaster. I lived a life of sadness and had nobody to turn to.

Yes, I have become more open with my life over time, but I have unfortunately not been fully open, even with my spouse. That has been a challenge, and even if I want to cry over her shoulder, I am still not fully capable of doing so.

also...do you belive that an intellectual connection in marriage is as important as an emotional one?

Supremely important. My spouse and I are of the same mindset and are in one accord in almost all the main aspects in life: family, children, ambition, religion, politics, hobbies, likes, dislikes, etc.

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posted August 23, 2012 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am happy that you found my reading for your liking....i have been a bit stressed lately and i tried to do my best with the reading....i hope others will jump in too to give opinion about things i didnt notice or put interest in....if il find anything more to write to you i will

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posted August 23, 2012 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One million thanks.

Even answering your questions has made me feel better about myself.

Again, much appreciated.

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posted August 23, 2012 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this about Chiron Opposite Pluto
http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Pluto_opposition_Chiron


You have been hurt by others early in life, or in a past life. This wounding may have been sexual or of a very powerful or violent nature. It could also have been of a spiritual nature. You have great depth of understanding into other people's problems, fears and pain, and may have strong healing abilities. You are likely to attract people into your life who have experienced suffering and loss. You could take a maverick approach to command and control issues. You could exert a great influence on people's sanity. Immerse yourself with learning experiences on the use and abuse of power.

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posted August 23, 2012 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I found this about Chiron Opposite Pluto
http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Pluto_opposition_Chiron


You have been hurt by others early in life, or in a past life. This wounding may have been sexual or of a very powerful or violent nature. It could also have been of a spiritual nature. You have great depth of understanding into other people's problems, fears and pain, and may have strong healing abilities. You are likely to attract people into your life who have experienced suffering and loss. You could take a maverick approach to command and control issues. You could exert a great influence on people's sanity. Immerse yourself with learning experiences on the use and abuse of power.


wow thats harsh.....also its in the 1st/7th houses...making it even stronger....

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posted August 23, 2012 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My father tells me that I have a "chip on my shoulder" even after all these years. I think we can see why.

Ami has been focusing on this Chiron placements in her readings of my natal.

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posted August 23, 2012 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
My father tells me that I have a "chip on my shoulder" even after all these years. I think we can see why.

Ami has been focusing on this Chiron placements in her readings of my natal.


i can see why....your chiron is prominent and ami knows her stuff about chiron...its a subject close to her...

i think i somehow got away lucky just having chiron conjunct mercury....but who knows what might happen...

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posted August 23, 2012 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I have stated 75% of my life long problems thus far in this one single aspect Heh

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posted August 23, 2012 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think I have stated 75% of my life long problems thus far in this one single aspect Heh

you should write a book about your life XD

definetly a best-seller

look at the bright side...it then means the rest of the chart is only 25% problematic....yay for good flow ^^

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posted August 24, 2012 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then there's the Uranus in 7th that brings up astrological presumptions that I disagree with.

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posted August 24, 2012 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Then there's the Uranus in 7th that brings up astrological presumptions that I disagree with.

like what?

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posted August 24, 2012 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nonsense that I am attracted to "unusual" people and that I can't keep a stable relationship. That I'm after "unorthodox" relationships, meaning that I'm a philanderer. One self-professed expert reiterated that I'm a prime candidate for marriage divorce. How is it possible to make such conclusions without looking at the other composite/synastry aspects, or even taking into account other natal aspects?

I find such assertions rather bothersome, even if I usually just ignore them.

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posted August 24, 2012 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Nonsense that I am attracted to "unusual" people and that I can't keep a stable relationship. That I'm after "unorthodox" relationships, meaning that I'm a philanderer. One self-professed expert reiterated that I'm a prime candidate for marriage divorce. How is it possible to make such conclusions without looking at the other composite/synastry aspects, or even taking into account other natal aspects?

I find such assertions rather bothersome, even if I usually just ignore them.


thats the very surface of uranus....few readers go beyond that

i think that the betrayal of your friends and the destruction of your first relationship is the incarnation of your uranus+pluto in your 7th house in a negative way

now you channel it in a more positive way in your marriage

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posted August 24, 2012 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a 9/11 survivor. How is that manifested in that chart?

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posted August 25, 2012 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm a 9/11 survivor. How is that manifested in that chart?

il have to take a look and tell you

but really.....like life just isnt evil enough....

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