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Lunae
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posted March 21, 2013 11:15 AM
  
I will post all of my horary concerns right here so that I won't have to open another thread  So, here's my question: Will a romantic relationship blossom between him and I?  Ready, set, GO! Fire away with your input guys!  IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted March 21, 2013 11:30 AM
The Moon is in Cancer and I have heard it could still 'act' despite it being voc, which I think it might be here (why did you blur the time??)Mutual reception between Mercury & Jupiter show mutual attraction (+), but you're in his 12th. Have you expressed, or does he know how you feel? Both planets apply by 4, so there's a good possibility that it's a yes, but since it's a square there may be a slight delay or problem You should post a regiomontanus chart, if you can :] IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted March 21, 2013 11:47 AM
Thank you for replying, Empress!  I blurred the time as a habit.. I usually do that when posting my charts, so yeah^^ I'm soooo glad the moon is in Cancer! I actually thought it was voc. I told him how I felt before, but I don't think he feels the same way. Well, actually, I'm confused by him lol XD I still like him now, but I'm trying to conceal it for the sake of our friendship Even if it's in mutual reception, Jupiter in my 7th would show that I am more fond of him than he is of me, right? I'm glad it's a yes, and I'm looking forward to it. Okay, regiomontanus chart is comin' up next!
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Lunae
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posted March 21, 2013 12:04 PM
 time was 10:40 pm when I asked the question, 2:40 pm in standard time.
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ELoveCherishEndure
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posted March 21, 2013 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by Lunae:
time was 10:40 pm when I asked the question, 2:40 pm in standard time.
Hola Lu, I will tell you that I am going to only need your natal for my reading but I will also say to you, that as my friends say, watch how many horaries you make because it only causes more confuzzledness but I will tell you I have a lot to say once I get to you and you are going to be happy with what I tell you. I have a lot of good news with a bit of realistic advice. So, get ready
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imeanj
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posted March 21, 2013 12:10 PM
I didn't look at reception - feelings yet, but I agree w/empress it looks like a yes. Mercury and Jupiter applying in a square in 4 counts. I am unfamiliar with where it says Jupiter in 7th means you are the one with stronger feelings. Usually if the querent is present in the 7th house it is a good sign. The one who wants the relationship more is usually the planet that travels faster. Likewise, the reception also shows who's feelings are stronger. For example, if querent's planet was in its fall/detriment and the quested planet was exalted, querent would be putting the quested on a pedastal. BTW, who are the Sun and Venus here? Just wondering...they are in your 4th House so it makes me curious and you make aspects to both as Jupiter and the Moon. Good luck! Keep us updated. IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted March 21, 2013 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by ELoveCherishEndure:
Hola Lu, I will tell you that I am going to only need your natal for my reading but I will also say to you, that as my friends say, watch how many horaries you make because it only causes more confuzzledness but I will tell you I have a lot to say once I get to you and you are going to be happy with what I tell you. I have a lot of good news with a bit of realistic advice. So, get ready
@ELove, she was correcting her horary not asking more questions. Regiomontanus is the more 'accurate' style. Remember to be mindful of details, especially with horary! IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted March 21, 2013 12:15 PM
Hey E! I usually pick out the more serious questions for horaries. As much as possible, I don't rely on it everyday q's. Here's my natal chart if you need it  IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted March 21, 2013 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by imeanj:
I didn't look at reception - feelings yet, but I agree w/empress it looks like a yes. Mercury and Jupiter applying in a square in 4 counts. Don't remember about the Jupiter in 7th being you having stronger feelings. Usually its just a good sign. The one who wants the relationship more is usually the planet that travels faster. Likewise, the reception also shows who's feelings are stronger. If querent's planet was in its fall/detriment for example and the other planet was exalted, querent would be putting the quested on a pedastal. BTW, who are the Sun and Venus here? Just wondering...they are in your 4th House so it makes me curious. Good luck! Keep us updated.
We are both in our fall soooo.. No worries? XD Sun and Venus.. A man and a woman? What does it generally imply if it's in ny 4th? IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted March 21, 2013 12:21 PM
4th is the house of home and family life. Sun and Venus do not necessarily mean a man and a woman just possibly, but makes me think of a father with a little girl. Horary gives great detail, so wanted to ask. IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted March 21, 2013 12:28 PM
Okay, thanks imeanj! Hmmm. Lemme think. There's no significant father/daughter figure related to my home life right now. IP: Logged |
ELoveCherishEndure
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posted March 21, 2013 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by imeanj:
@ELove, she was correcting her horary not asking more questions. Regiomontanus is the more 'accurate' style. Remember to be mindful of details, especially with horary!
My bad I didn't mean anything by it. I guess I am just learning this stuff so don't mind my corrective nature lol Hugs!
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Lunae
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posted March 21, 2013 07:05 PM
What's your take on this E? IP: Logged |
ELoveCherishEndure
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posted March 21, 2013 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by Lunae:
What's your take on this E?
Again, read my reading for you.
I think that'll speak louder than anything else IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted March 21, 2013 07:47 PM
I just saw it E! Thanks for your reading! I'm hoping you're right! It feels different with this guy. There's this unspoken comfort between us. But yessss. We had a misunderstanding recently and it was my fault. I guess I wounded his sensitive Pisces moon that made him retreat  IP: Logged |
ELoveCherishEndure
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posted March 21, 2013 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by Lunae:
I just saw it E! Thanks for your reading! I'm hoping you're right! It feels different with this guy. There's this unspoken comfort between us. But yessss. We had a misunderstanding recently and it was my fault. I guess I wounded his sensitive Pisces moon that made him retreat
Oh yes, us Pisces moons love hard but do e-mail me. IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted March 22, 2013 01:48 AM
Well, I guess it's all good with him now. I was overanalyzing the sitch XDD typical me. Anyways, what is tue difference bet the regiomontanus and placidus chart style? How is regio more accurate? And, how do you know that the aspects are applying/separating? I still am confused with that. And voc moons. XDDD IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted March 22, 2013 02:20 AM
Its how the houses end up being drawn - I'll look into it further.In regards to separating versus applying - if you look at the aspect chart, it says S or A underneath the aspect (for trine, sextile, conjunct, square.) That's how you figure that out. And in regards to VOC, look at the link below and I'll leave it at that (no need for WW3), unless you have questions for me. HUG and hope that is helpful!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/006415.html IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted March 22, 2013 02:36 AM
I have a q for you.. You requested for the regiomontanus chart, right? What differences do you see? sending you a hug back! thanks for all your help! IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted March 22, 2013 03:03 AM
I don't see a difference between the two, but I believe that it has to do with a time difference/zone situation - and you have blurred out the times. As I said, I am not totally clear. And actually, I did not request it - @Empress did - however, it is standard for horary. Again, I will look into it further, all I know is that the houses are drawn differently between the two systems. Let me know if you find something - I need to head to bed. Also, I clarified the VOC for you step by step in that last post. GOOD LUCK! -- Here is what wikipedia says: Regiomontanus
The celestial equator is divided into twelve, and these divisions are projected on to the ecliptic along great circles that take in the north and south points on the horizon. Named after the German astronomer and astrologer Johann Müller of Königsberg. The Regiomontanus system was later largely replaced by the Placidus system. Placidus
This is the most commonly used house system in modern Western astrology. The paths drawn for each degree of the ecliptic to move from the nadir to the horizon, and from the horizon to the midheaven, are trisected to determine the cusps of houses 2, 3, 11, and 12. The cusps of houses 8, 9, 5 and 6 are opposite these. The Placidus system is sometimes not defined beyond polar circles (latitudes greater than 66°N or 66°S), because certain degrees are circumpolar (never touch the horizon), and planets falling in them cannot be assigned to houses without extending the system. This is the result of his weaknesses of the Placidean system according to its critics, which often cite the exceptional house proportions in the higher latitudes.[6]
Named for 17th-century astrologer Placidus de Titis, it is thought the Placidus system was first mentioned about 13th century in Arab literature, but the first confirmed publication was in 1602 by Giovanni Antonii Magini (1555–1617) in his book "Tabulae Primi Mobilis, quas Directionem Vulgo Dicunt". The first documented usage is from Czech, 1627.[7] Later it was popularized by Catholic Church as an argument for Ptolemy's geocentric theory of the Solar System, in the campaign against the heliocentric theory. Placidus, a professor of mathematics, was named as its author to give it credibility to his contemporaries. Placidus remains the most popular system among English-speaking astrologers
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EmpressMendez
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posted March 22, 2013 03:11 AM
Yes Imeanj is right, there isn't much of a difference (house cups I believe is the difference).Your chart looks like a yes though, maybe with some delay to manifest. Good luck! IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted March 22, 2013 04:18 AM
Thank you imeanj and empress! I hope things will turn out good! I'm still curious about the sun and venus in my 4th house, though. ^_^ IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted March 22, 2013 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by imeanj:
Its how the houses end up being drawn - I'll look into it further.In regards to separating versus applying - if you look at the aspect chart, it says S or A underneath the aspect (for trine, sextile, conjunct, square.) That's how you figure that out. And in regards to VOC, look at the link below and I'll leave it at that (no need for WW3), unless you have questions for me. HUG and hope that is helpful!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/006415.html
How do you know by how many "counts"? do you base it on the degrees applying/separating the two aspects? How long does each "count" take? when can you say that it will be in days, weeks, months or years? Forgive me if I'm annoying you guys with questions XD
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EmpressMendez
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posted March 22, 2013 08:44 AM
The applying degrees between both planets. For you it shows a 4, so 4 weeks or months. I would interpret the length in the past this way: "
Time Factor The amount of time involved can be found by counting the number of degrees between Significators for an aspect to be exact. Time is measured in days, weeks, months, years or unknown according to the quality of the sign the Signifcator of the querent is in, and its house occupancy. In a cardinal sign and angular house, time is in days; in a cardinal sign and succedent house, time is in weeks; in a cardinal sign and cadent house, time is in months. If the Significator is in a fixed sign and angular house, time is in months; in a fixed sign and succedent house, time is in years; in a fixed sign and cadent house, time is unknown. If the Signifcator is in a mutable sign and angular house, time is in weeks; in a mutable sign and succedent house, time is in months; in a mutable sign and cadent house, time is in years." But stopped & just say weeks, or months..could be days but for you I think it's months IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted March 22, 2013 09:04 AM
Wow, thanks for the enlightenment, Empress! now I FINALLY understand! IP: Logged |
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