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posted March 27, 2013 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi guys, I have these 2 charts for you guys to read.
Which do you think is a married couple's chart and upon 10 rate the physical attraction and durability of the relationship.

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posted March 27, 2013 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anyone able to help?

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posted March 27, 2013 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 27, 2013 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think the first chart is married; not sure how strong i'd rate the attraction, but definitely higher than the second chart

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posted March 27, 2013 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi starmoon nice hearing from you again!! I really appreciate your reply

what makes you think so because there are no nodal contacts in chart a wheras chart b has moon conjunct north node and south node conjunct venus.

can i ask you if moon is conjunct descendant in chart b as well? thanks for your help!!


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i think the first chart is married; not sure how strong i'd rate the attraction, but definitely higher than the second chart

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posted March 27, 2013 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by astrolog:
hi starmoon nice hearing from you again!! I really appreciate your reply

what makes you think so because there are no nodal contacts in chart a wheras chart b has moon conjunct north node and south node conjunct venus.

can i ask you if moon is conjunct descendant in chart b as well? thanks for your help!!



yes, the moon is conjunct DSC in the second chart although it doesn't look very tight. it appears in that chart that the two people might have been born quite close to one another in year/months - their outer planets are all fairly well aligned. nodal contacts are nice because they can give a person a 'fated' or 'karmic' feel to the connection, but I don't think they matter much for marriage/commitment, just in how we initially react to someone we meet.

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posted March 27, 2013 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi starmoon thanks for your input!!
Yes the second chart the 2 persons are born in the same year 1977.
If the moon is closely conjunct the dc will it make any difference?


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yes, the moon is conjunct DSC in the second chart although it doesn't look very tight. it appears in that chart that the two people might have been born quite close to one another in year/months - their outer planets are all fairly well aligned. nodal contacts are nice because they can give a person a 'fated' or 'karmic' feel to the connection, but I don't think they matter much for marriage/commitment, just in how we initially react to someone we meet.

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posted March 27, 2013 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone else care to input? Would love to hear more opinions!!

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posted March 27, 2013 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Starmoon to be exact one is born in March 1977 and the other June 1977

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posted March 27, 2013 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone else care to input? Would love to hear more opinions!!

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posted March 28, 2013 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You want expert help. Please post expert looking charts or the birth data:

*charts that include the birth data
*not cut off at the edges
*charts that are not warped images

If that's too difficult, just post the birth data. Just don't include the names, it will be anonymous.

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posted March 28, 2013 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, just from a quick look I'd say the second chart would be marriage.

Even though the asc is different it's close in proximity making many signs flip flopping in the others house - ex: saturn in each others third probably lends to serious communication issues as in arguments or discussions that go nowhere.

Mutual pluto in the 5th would probably mean the people can get a little wild, crazy and reckless together.It's also means hot attraction! Mutual neptune in the 7th probably means that they both idealize the relationship. It could also mean that they both are putting on a good game face and/or keeping secrets.

I would rate it a 7. There is promise but, like all relationships, there are obstacles.

I'm curious to know if I called this or I'm way off, lol.

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posted March 28, 2013 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are close to it but what about your analysis of the second chart? And how much over 10 will you give?

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Originally posted by Ann7:
Hi, just from a quick look I'd say the second chart would be marriage.

Even though the asc is different it's close in proximity making many signs flip flopping in the others house - ex: saturn in each others third probably lends to serious communication issues as in arguments or discussions that go nowhere.

Mutual pluto in the 5th would probably mean the people can get a little wild, crazy and reckless together.It's also means hot attraction! Mutual neptune in the 7th probably means that they both idealize the relationship. It could also mean that they both are putting on a good game face and/or keeping secrets.

I would rate it a 7. There is promise but, like all relationships, there are obstacles.

I'm curious to know if I called this or I'm way off, lol.


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posted March 28, 2013 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Valentine

Chart A
Person A 28 June 1977 Manila 441am
Person B 5 June 1986 Singapore 230pm

Chart
Person A 28 June 1977 Manila 440am
Person B 8 March 1977 Manila 1001am


Hope this helps and thanks!!

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Valentine:
You want expert help. Please post expert looking charts or the birth data:

*charts that include the birth data
*not cut off at the edges
*charts that are not warped images

If that's too difficult, just post the birth data. Just don't include the names, it will be anonymous.


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posted March 28, 2013 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ann hope to hear from you what makes you think the second chart is married and what do you think of the first chart and why do you think they are not married?

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Originally posted by Ann7:
Hi, just from a quick look I'd say the second chart would be marriage.

Even though the asc is different it's close in proximity making many signs flip flopping in the others house - ex: saturn in each others third probably lends to serious communication issues as in arguments or discussions that go nowhere.

Mutual pluto in the 5th would probably mean the people can get a little wild, crazy and reckless together.It's also means hot attraction! Mutual neptune in the 7th probably means that they both idealize the relationship. It could also mean that they both are putting on a good game face and/or keeping secrets.

I would rate it a 7. There is promise but, like all relationships, there are obstacles.

I'm curious to know if I called this or I'm way off, lol.


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posted March 28, 2013 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone else care to input? Will like to know more opinions

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posted March 28, 2013 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see a Gem and a Cancer in chart 1.
I see a Cancer and a Pisces in chart 2.

2 x 28 March? Where's that Aries?

What am I missing?

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posted March 28, 2013 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry it is 8 march and 28 june

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Originally posted by mir:
I see a Gem and a Cancer in chart 1.
I see a Cancer and a Pisces in chart 2.

2 x 28 March? Where's that Aries?

What am I missing?


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posted March 28, 2013 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry it is

28 june not march

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Originally posted by mir:
I see a Gem and a Cancer in chart 1.
I see a Cancer and a Pisces in chart 2.

2 x 28 March? Where's that Aries?

What am I missing?


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posted March 28, 2013 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think chart # 2 is married because they have similar placements which would make them extremely compatible and comfortable w/ each other. Also, they'd go through similar transits so their moods would change in the same way.

The first chart has mutual mars in the eighth which would signal passion but also arguments and struggles. This chart has some hot aspects but they seem to point to more friction than long term stability.

Again, I could be way off.

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posted March 29, 2013 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Astrolog,

From my perspective, both of these synastry charts suggest that the couple could be married. When I first looked at this post I automatically assumed that you wanted to know which person would be better for you to marry, I wasn't thinking of this as a test to see if I could guess which couple was married.

Anyway, when I drew up the charts I tried to see which comparisons seemed like a better marriage and the truth is, it depends on what the person doing the choosing is really like and what they are really into.

There is one comparison that seems like it has more potential for extremely difficult tensions. There is love in both synastry charts but if Person A marries Person B in Chart A, there is greater potential for Person B to brutally depress Person A's sense of self-worth, A's finances, possessions and actions. There's also the potential of damaging deception within the relationship. Person B would seek to hide and/or seriously suppress person A.

There's no way for me to truly judge. This could be something that Person A doesn't truly mind, person A might need or want this, but that is what I see in the synastry of Chart A.

In Chart B, the couple is born in the same year. There is a generational aspect that usually suggests lots of break ups, but because they both have this aspect, they may both already be dealing with it along with the entire generation born within that 2 to 3 year period so there would be no real problem with it. I'm speaking of the Saturn-Uranus square. This usually suggests breaking away from the old to get to the new.

With the comparison in Chart B, the couple would have more in common simply because they are of the same generation. It looks like communication would be so much more inspired, exciting and innovative. There is attraction. There is still the deception and suppression possibility factor but the brutal control is not there.

Almost every marriage deals with some confusion or each person has their own secrets so not to worry. So, if it was a choice, I'd choose for the couple in Chart B to be married.

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posted March 30, 2013 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So for chart a, who is going to control who? The inner person or the outer person

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Originally posted by Geocosmic* Valentine:
Hello Astrolog,

From my perspective, both of these synastry charts suggest that the couple could be married. When I first looked at this post I automatically assumed that you wanted to know which person would be better for you to marry, I wasn't thinking of this as a test to see if I could guess which couple was married.

Anyway, when I drew up the charts I tried to see which comparisons seemed like a better marriage and the truth is, it depends on what the person doing the choosing is really like and what they are really into.

There is one comparison that seems like it has more potential for extremely difficult tensions. There is love in both synastry charts but if Person A marries Person B in Chart A, there is greater potential for Person B to brutally depress Person A's sense of self-worth, A's finances, possessions and actions. There's also the potential of damaging deception within the relationship. Person B would seek to hide and/or seriously suppress person A.

There's no way for me to truly judge. This could be something that Person A doesn't truly mind, person A might need or want this, but that is what I see in the synastry of Chart A.

In Chart B, the couple is born in the same year. There is a generational aspect that usually suggests lots of break ups, but because they both have this aspect, they may both already be dealing with it along with the entire generation born within that 2 to 3 year period so there would be no real problem with it. I'm speaking of the Saturn-Uranus square. This usually suggests breaking away from the old to get to the new.

With the comparison in Chart B, the couple would have more in common simply because they are of the same generation. It looks like communication would be so much more inspired, exciting and innovative. There is attraction. There is still the deception and suppression possibility factor but the brutal control is not there.

Almost every marriage deals with some confusion or each person has their own secrets so not to worry. So, if it was a choice, I'd choose for the couple in Chart B to be married.


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posted March 30, 2013 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For chart A who is person a? Outer or inner?
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Originally posted by Geocosmic* Valentine:
Hello Astrolog,

From my perspective, both of these synastry charts suggest that the couple could be married. When I first looked at this post I automatically assumed that you wanted to know which person would be better for you to marry, I wasn't thinking of this as a test to see if I could guess which couple was married.

Anyway, when I drew up the charts I tried to see which comparisons seemed like a better marriage and the truth is, it depends on what the person doing the choosing is really like and what they are really into.

There is one comparison that seems like it has more potential for extremely difficult tensions. There is love in both synastry charts but if Person A marries Person B in Chart A, there is greater potential for Person B to brutally depress Person A's sense of self-worth, A's finances, possessions and actions. There's also the potential of damaging deception within the relationship. Person B would seek to hide and/or seriously suppress person A.

There's no way for me to truly judge. This could be something that Person A doesn't truly mind, person A might need or want this, but that is what I see in the synastry of Chart A.

In Chart B, the couple is born in the same year. There is a generational aspect that usually suggests lots of break ups, but because they both have this aspect, they may both already be dealing with it along with the entire generation born within that 2 to 3 year period so there would be no real problem with it. I'm speaking of the Saturn-Uranus square. This usually suggests breaking away from the old to get to the new.

With the comparison in Chart B, the couple would have more in common simply because they are of the same generation. It looks like communication would be so much more inspired, exciting and innovative. There is attraction. There is still the deception and suppression possibility factor but the brutal control is not there.

Almost every marriage deals with some confusion or each person has their own secrets so not to worry. So, if it was a choice, I'd choose for the couple in Chart B to be married.


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posted March 30, 2013 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to let you figure it out. Without names it can get mighty confusing.

Here's a question, are any of these people YOU? I ask because the information you're asking for take A LOT of work astrologically, you're basically asking for 2 synastry readings, it seems like you're asking if they are married, it feels like you're testing astrologers or playing games instead wanting true insight. What should be known first is:

What is your agenda with this line of questioning?

I hope I don't put you off with the question, but if you want expert work, you've got to make your questions clear, present the birth data as clearly as possible and that way you'll know you're getting the best expert information back that you asked for.

Here's the key. I used the same labels you provided with the birth information you provided. You gave:

Chart A
Person A
Person B

Chart B
Person A
Person B

In both charts, person A is the exact same person as per the birth data. Unless they were twins born 1 minute apart. That's the most amount of energy I'm willing to put into this project. I hope you figure it out.

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posted March 30, 2013 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi yes one of them is me and I will like to see if you u guys can guess correctly. I am definitely not playing you out I really want to know

If you are a professional who do paid readings please pm me!!

Birth data for chart A
28 June 1977 441am
5 June 1986 228pm

Chart B
28 June 1977 441am
8 March 1977 1001am

quote:
Originally posted by Geocosmic* Valentine:
I'm going to let you figure it out. Without names it can get mighty confusing.

Here's a question, are any of these people YOU? I ask because the information you're asking for take A LOT of work astrologically, you're basically asking for 2 synastry readings, it seems like you're asking if they are married, it feels like you're testing astrologers or playing games instead wanting true insight. What should be known first is:

What is your agenda with this line of questioning?

I hope I don't put you off with the question, but if you want expert work, you've got to make your questions clear, present the birth data as clearly as possible and that way you'll know you're getting the best expert information back that you asked for.

Here's the key. I used the same labels you provided with the birth information you provided. You gave:

Chart A
Person A
Person B

Chart B
Person A
Person B

In both charts, person A is the exact same person as per the birth data. Unless they were twins born 1 minute apart. That's the most amount of energy I'm willing to put into this project. I hope you figure it out.


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