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dyedye08
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posted April 15, 2013 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dyedye08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Everyone, I think I found my twin flame. If someone could take a look at our Synastry chart and help confirm.

I have included asteroids Karma and Psyche

The numbers 6, 9, 15, 24, 27 seem to be involved with twin souls birthdays.

My Birthday is September 9 and His Birthday Sept 24

Twin Souls often meet on one of those days, too

Here’s the vast list of Twin Flames in Synastry
Sun conjunct or opposed Moon
Sun conjunct major points (Vertex, MC, IC, Asc, Desc, Nodes)
Sun located in the other’s 4th or 7th house
Moon conjunct or opposed major points
Moon conjunct or oppose Moon
Moon conjunct or opposed Venus
Moon conjunct or opposed Neptune
Venus conjunct any major points
Venus conjunct or opposed Neptune
Venus conjunct or opposed Pluto…. this one use a wider orb, and beware it brings a very obsessive quality to the relationship
Saturn conjunctions to the Moon or the Sun or on the major points

I know our chart indicate one or more of these aspects.

I have also read articles about Saturn - Neptune Connections.

I know Saturn sextile Neptune, but no sure about house placement.

Synastry with asteroids
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Synastry with no Asteroids
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Composite Chart
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posted April 18, 2013 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes he is your soulmate/twin flame. you are lucky

No afflictions.
I've been looking for a composite like this for a long time.
Would be even better if the moon was conjunct the stellium.
Good thing its not square opposite the stellium at least (the trine is awesome:])

The synastry is rly good but rly bad at the same time so be careful:/ prob some problems will crop up. You should look into the descriptions for those bad aspects in synastry so many outer planet afflictions to personal planets.

What u mentioned about the numbers that add up to 3, 6 or 9 as far as birthdays go being very compatible is something that is practiced in numerology. 9 is ruled by aquarius and 6 is libra. So that is why they say that. He is probably accomodating, and a charmer and people pleaser, as well as refined. You are probably sociable, generous, kind, and very friendly and easygoing but more energetic than him. 3 is gemini and people with birthdays adding up to 3 are very happy, bright, outspoken, and popular, but above all always happy energetic people with quirky interests.

Numbers adding up to 2 (cancer), 4(taurus), 8(cap) are compatible
Numbers adding up to 3, 6 or 9 are compatible
And numbers adding up to 1, 5, 7 i believe are the other compatible ones but not sure. I know 1 is aries, and 5 is sagittarius and they tend to be overindulgers/cheaters/sneaky and 7 is pisces--shy/reclusive, the hermit.
22 and 11 are master numbers and they have a soecific purpose in this life. 22 is like a mix of aqua and cap...they came to change the world and are the most powerful. And 11 is the spiritual master number which provides wisdom for others but didnt exactly come to actually change things.

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posted April 18, 2013 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whats urs and this guys chinese signs?

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dyedye08
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posted April 18, 2013 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dyedye08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are both Rabbits! When I met him Ras I felt something in my core, in my spirit that I gave never felt with anybody else. I always felt like I had to have him in my life, but I didn't know where this feeling was coming from. I definitley appreciate your insight, which was very detailed

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posted April 18, 2013 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dyedye08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have another thread titled first meeting chart but have been told its irrevlant. If you have the time I would love you to check out our Davison chart. Through research I have learned that the Davison chart is more realiable than the composite. I included more Asteriods here is link if you care to offer insight http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/006792.html

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posted April 18, 2013 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went back to the other thread and saw u said he wasnt calling u anymore

Your saturn and uranus are afflicting his personal planets. He must feel like youre too cold/detached/critical towards him

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posted April 18, 2013 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dyedye08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Ras I honestly don't know what he feels. I just know the communication stopped without reason or explanation. Before it happen everything was fine

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posted April 18, 2013 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Without the Moon being involved? Really? I find that kinda hard to believe ....

I'm really curious what method you're using, RAS, considering my composite has the Moon, no afflictions, and the outers + personal planets in a stellium across the 12H/1Hs. And Mars separate.

I was told such features were indicative of a twinflame, but you're saying that it doesn't have to involve the Moon, that Mars can be in the stellium, and it doesn't have to contain outers?

I'm very confused. If you could clarify? Now I'm concerned I've been leading others astray - and possibly myself.

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posted April 18, 2013 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you said there are no afflictions. What do you mean? Mars is square Saturn. That Mars is also conjunct Pluto. That, I would think would account for their violent past.

So, what do you mean by no afflictions? What am I missing?

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posted April 18, 2013 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The love stellium is conjunct mars and widely conjunct pluto. The fact that its unafflicted and widely conjunct pluto makes it very special.

Yes, your relationship (talking to Indigo) is more special than this one, but it is also much stormier..because uranus is conjunct the stellium.

Am i mistaken though? Maybe it isnt conjunct the stellium after all. There was no aspect grid posted for the composite so i couldnt totally tell.

Comp Mars square saturn gives a certain underlying tension, but it isnt anything that would break a relationship or would cause an unhealthy relationship by itself, especially when there is a love stellium.

Comp Mars conjunct pluto is not a bad aspect. If u read the astro click partner description for it it just means that u feel like u have more determination drive and purpose together as a couple.

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posted April 18, 2013 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, indigo, sun square saturn, double whammy moon-mars hard aspects, and mars square mars would give the two of you a lot of arguments and misunderstandings. Of course if uranus is conj the comp stellium itll be a lot worse tho :/

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posted April 18, 2013 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, you're talking synastry. I was speaking solely of the composite.

In that case, what DO you look for? Because I'm on board with neither, or both, but not one or the other. They're too similar, with minor differences, and my composite is much more concentrated, too.

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posted April 18, 2013 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes i knew u were talking about the composite

I was too lol. It was just my last post which referred to the synastry.

Is uranus conjunct the stellium in ur composite tho?

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posted April 18, 2013 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In regards to Uranus, I have no doubt it's stormy. But the Uranian influence - it's likely a combination of the circumstances of how we met (online) regarding a collaborative story about astrology, past lives, karmic retribution, twin souls and so on.

It is in the stellium, but its influence is too weak to conjoin the Sun, but it is parallel the Moon. (Stormy, volatile emotions have been a standard for us outside of the couple of times we were more accepting of our relationship. It's also indicative of how we've had a relationship at a distance since we met, doing what we could to overcome those circumstances, at times with great difficulty.) The Mercury parallel ties into that, too - along with Venus.

So, the Uranian influence is there - namely conjunct Mercury, which is a perfect representation of our distance relationship / communication. But Venus and the Sun are out of orb.

Its only real aspects are the sextile to 11H Juno, and, perhaps some minors of which I'm currently unaware.

I'm not sure how much that's -in- the stellium, per se. Its closest aspect is Mercury; otherwise, it's at the tail-end of it, with Neptune being next - and way out of orb at 25°.

What else would you like to know? For me, the clock is ticking and a lot of people are depending on us. I ... just don't know what else to do.

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posted April 18, 2013 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dyedye08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This info is very beneficial even though it doesn't apply to my situation. I love an opportunity where I can learn more. @ Indigo you posted this on my First Meeting Chart thread IndigoDirae
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posted April 18, 2013 03:48 AM
Wow, wait. He's got Dejanira-Valentine? Where's your Nessus - and his? Also, you realise your Dejanira is tightly conjunct your VX - and square his Deja-Val?
There's the real issue, right there.

I have been driving myself crazy trying to research this aspect but couldn't find anything. I'm assuming this is a bad aspect to have, but what does it mean exactly


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posted April 18, 2013 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dyedye08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Ras can you please explain to me how our signs in Chinese astrology relates to western astrology

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posted April 18, 2013 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know davison charts or first meeting charts. Dont even know progressed stuff

I just know composites and synastry :P

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posted April 18, 2013 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dyedye08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Ras and Indigio through my research I am learning that the Davison chart is more reliable than the composite, is this true

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posted April 18, 2013 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dyedye08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Ras oh okay! Question: are love asteroid revealant in synastry/ composite do they help. I'm studying some now, and included some in another composite and synastry on another thread, but some findings are calling them pieces of dust that doesn't matter. I'm confused

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posted April 18, 2013 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
The love stellium is conjunct mars and widely conjunct pluto. The fact that its unafflicted and widely conjunct pluto makes it very special.

Yes, your relationship (talking to Indigo) is more special than this one, but it is also much stormier..because uranus is conjunct the stellium.

Am i mistaken though? Maybe it isnt conjunct the stellium after all. There was no aspect grid posted for the composite so i couldnt totally tell.

Comp Mars square saturn gives a certain underlying tension, but it isnt anything that would break a relationship or would cause an unhealthy relationship by itself, especially when there is a love stellium.

Comp Mars conjunct pluto is not a bad aspect. If u read the astro click partner description for it it just means that u feel like u have more determination drive and purpose together as a couple.


Right. I'm just confused. See, I understand the aspects themselves aren't necessarily bad - and I don't believe any composite completely frustrates a relationship. It's the fact that I've read much regarding the speculative charts for twinflames, and, like you, afflictions are typically not present, and Mars tends to be separate from a stellium involving most of the personal and outer planets. This was information I learnt way after the fact, too.

So, I'm just trying to understand your method here. Why does Mars-Pluto make it a very special karma? To me, it seems very revealing of the particular violence in their past. (A similar theme playing out with the 12H Saturn-Pluto-Lust-Atlantis in my own - which, I'm pretty sure I understand by this point.)

It's the lacking of the Moon in the stellium which surprised me - not to mention Jupiter opposite. Though in the 6H, it's conjunct the DSC, which I'm gathering has a more 7H influence, actually.

Either way, I'm surprised; I would think the Moon would need to be a part of that stellium for a twinflame connection.

So what do you look for? As you've said that dyedye and Jwt are twinflames, but my partner and I are not, I'm trying to understand how you determined it. I'm surprised - given what I learnt - but I'm always learning more, and I'm naturally sceptical. I test everything heavily.

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posted April 18, 2013 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW, DD: you've got a serious Mars-Pluto thing here. I've had that with someone, too. (To this day, he 'haunts' me. Not constantly in my thoughts, but creeps into them every now and again despite very little contact.)

You and Jwt have DW Mars-Pluto conjunctions (one exact, one loose) AND the composite Mars-Pluto conjunction.

I'd look deeply into those two planets and their combinations between you.

As for Deja, it's victimisation. He has a karmic victimisation pattern, which tends to come out in his love relationships (Valentines). You'd need to look into Nessus placement, as that's the abuser part of the Deja/Nessus pattern.

I'm iffy on Davison. His and my Davison and composite are practically identical, so, it's never mattered much to me personally. But I'm intrigued that the First Meeting carries the most weight up to when a relationship happens. Damn. That could explain a lot. If only we could ever get to that. I can't imagine how -that- might feel. I think I've felt parts of it - glimpses, as you say. And -that- was incredible.

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posted April 18, 2013 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asteroids are texture. The basics are sweeping brushstrokes; the asteroids are the details.

Any time I need some greater depth of insight into something, I dig in deep. Asteroids are great for that.

They don't tell the basic story - they fill in the details.

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posted April 18, 2013 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dyedye08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Indigio I have been looking into mars conjuct Pluto aspect . What find to be true about this aspect:
“Pluto conj Mars does a magnetic sexual attraction/passion. The Mars person is strongly sexually attracted to the Pluto person, and the Pluto person might be possessive or jealous when the Mars person wants his or her freedom.” Doesn't sound like a good combination to me. If I were to re- upload composite including Nessus would you be willing to take a look at it and paint a better picture or can you paint a picture without Nessus. either way i would be truly grateful; You and I have similar situation going on and truthfully i feel like once i see the big picture i will know what to do. I know you keep mentioning that due to mars in 12 house it means we had a violent past. This makes me wonder what really happened between us. I noticed whenever I tried to get him to open up about his feelings he would become definsive. From what I learned so far, in a past life he was the one very loving, wanting a family and commitment then you throw the statement in about past violent in the relationship that scares me. It's almost like what I'm experiencing now with my husband.

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posted April 18, 2013 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dyedye08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Indigio The first meeting chart shows right away to me that this is a big love and a great opportunity for a mutually beneficial relationship (Venus conjunct Sun). However, it also shows that the relationships is somewhat hidden from the public (chart ruler mercury in the 12th house), and that there is a lot of pressure from all sides to establish emotional and social equilibrium (Mercury is part of the Grand Cross involving Saturn, Jupiter and and moon. Essentially grand Cross will give us both great challenges, but also develop a great persistence and inner strength – motivating us to work out the relationship. Do you see this or am I wrong

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posted April 18, 2013 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I know Mars-Pluto well. One of my good friends who I met through a previous project (I hesitate to call him an ex, though, as the relationship was intense but short-lived, clearly karmic, and we've been on great footing since) anyhow, we have this almost exact. Lemme say, our on-screen chemistry is positively sizzling. I have the trine with my partner, but since Psyche and Eros are a part of it, that intensifies it, I think. (The level of our chemistry makes others around us slightly uncomfortable.)

I should add that we're highly evolved individuals. A lesser man might be abusive, vindictive, power-driven and gaming. Granted, a lot of the potential negativity may have been positively channeled into BDSM elements in the relationship. So, altogether, it was passionate, transformative, and creatively fruitful. All good things.

Now, you're right about being concerned with Deja and Nessus. If it's part of the Mars and Pluto pattern, that could be very destructive. More than anything, I think you need to look into what's going on there.

You already have an abuse pattern / history; I suggest looking at your own Deja and Nessus, then his, then your synastric / composite connections - should they be present.

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