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Topic: A weird tarot request from me
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 7736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 07, 2013 07:28 AM
so your main field is represented by the THREE of WANDS (wands represent the gift of phrophesy)To begin one`s calling. To Speak, converse, write, listen. The surrounding cards were:
THREE of PENTACLES: Learning the trade. Serving the world. FIVE of CUPS: To come upon death. To accept death. To aquire compassion. To mourn over the world, and establish your relationship to the world, that you are going to love them and help them. To accept the big picture. To know your limits. To understand that death is part of the picture and that God is wiser than you. THREE of SWORDS to be heartbroken, to be stricken, to lose everything.
FIVE of PENTACLES One who is reduced to nothing. To suffer. To know poverty, so we learn humility.
I am sorry. I wished I would have pulled more positive cards. But this is what came out. Maybe since you are tarotreaders yourself, I am not even meant to pull cards for you, and you should do it yourself, and I can give you the interpreations from the book of your own spread?
(at least that is what the author said,t hat this is a highly personal spread, and you best shouldnīt let someone else pull cards and especially not interprete it for you). IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 7736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 07, 2013 07:30 AM
The layout works this way.First you separate the major from the minor arcanas. Then you take the minor arcana, shuffle them and cut the cards, and lay down one card in the centre. After that you put the majors and minors together again, shuffle them and cut them again, and pull four cards. One is put on top of the centre card, one to the right, one to the bottom, one to the left, and they are being read from top to right to bottom to left. IP: Logged |
Twirl Knowflake Posts: 1583 From: Europe Registered: Mar 2013
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posted August 07, 2013 07:34 AM
Ceri, What does your book assign to cups as gifts? Thanks IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 7736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 07, 2013 07:37 AM
HealingIP: Logged |
Twirl Knowflake Posts: 1583 From: Europe Registered: Mar 2013
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posted August 07, 2013 07:51 AM
Thanks Well, come sit on my sofa then I did think of this btw in a 'healing (purging) of emotions way'. Had the 3 cups there. Seems like a lot of '3's' for everyone IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 7736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 07, 2013 08:22 AM
Yes, I noticed that as well. A lot of 3`s (development?).Also my eyes fell onto the 3 of cups in the book when writing out the reading for Little Cloud and I wondered who would have the 3 of cups. So it was you. lol Can we exchange, my 3 of swords for your 3 of cups? No? Why did I know you wouldnīt want to. IP: Logged |
Twirl Knowflake Posts: 1583 From: Europe Registered: Mar 2013
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posted August 07, 2013 08:41 AM
Thanks What do they apply to swords? I need to know first before the trade Threes for me is the initial stage of creation. The qualities are there and ready to be developed (like the pregnancy of the empress). So yes, I'd see the development too If you are interested. Mine were: 2 cups, Moon, king of cups + 8 pents, which I already translated in my own words. Thought the 8 pents was funny too. Working out the details and fine tuning, lol. All emotions in the cards My Chiron in 12th is conjunct my moon btw. IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 820 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 07, 2013 09:24 AM
Hi Ceri, your readings and the visualisations you come up with are quite amazing - lovely to read. Ddi you say you had an inner light that was keeping you awake? Wow! Could I please ask if you would be able to read for me, whenever you have the time? No rush. You are likely to get a lot of requests and may not want to go down that route. Don't worry, if you don't want to.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 7736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 07, 2013 09:26 AM
"hat do they apply to swords?" Time manipulators (whatever that means); out-of-body-experiences"The qualities are there and ready to be developed (like the pregnancy of the empress)." Yes, though I think they are ALREADY in a stage of development, the first step has been undertaken, so many more have to follow to arrive at the stability of the 4. " 2 cups, Moon, king of cups + 8 pents,
I like your cards! 3 of cups as the basic card: To understand the three presence of God; There is the creator, the guardian and being. God, you and the other. (one of the reasons I feel uncomfortable with some of the interpretations is the esoteric tone, the constant mentioning of God and some other things actually. lol) 2 of cups: to be miraculously healed. to be transformed through an one ness experience of God. The gift of healing.
Moon: reincarnation madness. trapped in a reincarnation cycle. Man is mad. Insanity. and
King of Cups: One who heals with water
8 of pentacles: Relearning the trade. Working for God.
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Twirl Knowflake Posts: 1583 From: Europe Registered: Mar 2013
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posted August 07, 2013 10:00 AM
Time manipulators sounds intriguing!! Do let me know when you invented a time machine. I always wanted one Thanks for looking up all the extra meanings! And typing them I agree with your take on 3. That's kinda what I meant (like the growing of a baby into an adult). Lol. I sound crystal clear today I was hoping I was in the 8 pent stage, altough my plants might disagree on my 'king cups, heal with water'-abilities Thanks again for sharing those!! IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 3363 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 07, 2013 10:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Jess,I am glad it resonated with you. It is supposed to do that, lead you to epiphany. And only you can really KNOW what the 3 of swords means. For me I was stumped when it came up for you, but then had the flash of a thought that this is maybe how you can help people. That especially people will come to you for love readings, having their heard broken, etc. And then I had another thought and that was that swords are discriminating. The 3 of swords is very much a "No bullsh*t" card. Maybe it is part of your talent to show people the truth, even if it hurts. But this is the only way to become able to move on again and find love again. And no matter how much I dread this card, it is still a Minor ARcana after all, right? And yes you are right, I am holding something back, as it is probably just my weird imagination. But sometimes while shuffling images will come up in my mind, if I am connecting well to the querent. In this case I had the feeling you had a very bright positive yellow glow to your energy, and there was a white dove above your head at first, hovering over you. A very peaceful loving image. But then I noticed, a bit in the background, something dark, kind of watching you. His energy reminded me a bit of the "Devil" in tarot. And it naturally startled me to see him behind you, though in a distance, and I really donīt want to scare you, and probably it is just my crappy imagination anyway.
But what I wanted to say is, that while he exhibeted a certain threat, not necessarily to you as a person, but more so to the white dove hovering over you, he would not attack you. I got the feeling he represented a certain type of temptation, that might arise on your journey. If I should interprete this imagery I say you have a very loving pure peaceful, healing energy to you, very compassionate and kind and modest, and also gifted psychically, but that glow may attract envy (of others). But I also feel that maybe it just represents this old saying: With great power, comes great responsibility. I donīt know I wouldnīt have said anything but you asked me; I hope you are not upset or mad at me. It was a very serene imagery all together, and I also had the feeling that you are being protected (like a protective circle around you), in which this dark energy cannot enter, unless you open the door to him. And please keep in mind, I am not a psychic; I am just having an overactive imagination, and I guess these images must come up from somewhere from the subconsciousness. Maybe different symbols being put together in a different way than in the context I may have seen them at first. But since this comes from th subconsciousness, I have no idea when or why or how they come up.
I am not upset or mad at you! On the contrary, I appreciate you telling me. I knew you were withholding something I need time to process what you said. Don't worry I don't scare easily Although suffice to say that it resonated with me, more than you know Yes the 3 0f swords reminded me that I tend to try to ''fix'' things that were already broken. I think it goes back to when my parents were still together. All major Arcana cards would mean that I will be brought one way or the other to earn those gifts and to use them. Right? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 7736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 07, 2013 10:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: Hi Ceri, your readings and the visualisations you come up with are quite amazing - lovely to read. Ddi you say you had an inner light that was keeping you awake? Wow! Could I please ask if you would be able to read for me, whenever you have the time? No rush. You are likely to get a lot of requests and may not want to go down that route. Don't worry, if you don't want to.
Yeah, inner light. Quite annoying, and even scary. I mean I have these after imagages everyone sees, but sometimes when it is dark it gets a little much. Yesterday, it was not just forms and figures and colours, but the outline of a person (I know btw) began to form (even with my eyes open in the dark), like you could see the outlines of somebody`s energy or something like that.
and NO NO NO, that is going TOO FAR, much too far. Anyway I will get to your reading a little later, I feel I should take a little bit time to rest.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 7736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 07, 2013 11:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Twirl: Time manipulators sounds intriguing!! Do let me know when you invented a time machine. I always wanted one Thanks for looking up all the extra meanings! And typing them I agree with your take on 3. That's kinda what I meant (like the growing of a baby into an adult). Lol. I sound crystal clear today I was hoping I was in the 8 pent stage, altough my plants might disagree on my 'king cups, heal with water'-abilities Thanks again for sharing those!!
ROFL @ the plants. Yes, mine are looking very sad, too. ACtually they are probably comatose by now. I def. do not have a green thumb. But part of me doesn`t like plants inside the apartment. They belong to be outside (the plant was a gift). Yeah, time machine sounds interesting. So far I haven`t had much success though. Unless dreaming of the past counts?
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 7736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 08, 2013 11:28 AM
Astro Keen,your base card, main field of psychic talent, is the 6 of swords. to surrender and allow yourself to be carried to the other shore. The second surrender. Surrounding cards:
Queen of Wands: a female prophet. A female channeler Queen of Pentacles: Spiritual sexuality. She will mother a psychic nation. Annunciation. 10 of wands To draw something to you. To learn to do this.
10 of pentacles Election. Announcement. the angel of God waits at the gate for the chosen come walking by to be named. To establish a family line. to pass it down in the family or to choose an heir or apparentice; or to be chosen. to be named. IP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 1891 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted August 08, 2013 11:41 AM
Ceridwen- that image...it really is fitting. I haven't ever really worked with children but have thought of being a foster parent at some point in the future. But it could also be symbolic of immaturity to a degree. I've often felt like this throughout my life. People coming to me for comfort of sorts but I am often left wanting comfort of my own and not receiving it. This has been the case often with sexual relationships. I would many times feel like I was there taking their pain away, giving them comfort but I thought that maybe I was getting ahead of myself. The reading likely relates to that. Perhaps I am a healer of wounds of a sort.... The 3s I assume mean I have more potential? By the way the 3 of wands is one of my favorite cards. I'll post a pic from my deck and the imagery may help you understand why. I've always looked at it as a gift from the Universe, putting good energy out and receiving it 3fold. Something precious that you should take care of. IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 820 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 08, 2013 12:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Astro Keen,your base card, main field of psychic talent, is the 6 of swords. to surrender and allow yourself to be carried to the other shore. The second surrender. Surrounding cards:
Queen of Wands: a female prophet. A female channeler Queen of Pentacles: Spiritual sexuality. She will mother a psychic nation. Annunciation. 10 of wands To draw something to you. To learn to do this.
10 of pentacles Election. Announcement. the angel of God waits at the gate for the chosen come walking by to be named. To establish a family line. to pass it down in the family or to choose an heir or apparentice; or to be chosen. to be named.
Thanks so much Ceri. Much food for thought. The base card signifying 'surrender' resonates clearly with what I've been told before - that I will be taken to or will receive when the time is right for my psychic developement and I should trust that that will occur. If Queen of Wands is meant to be me then that is great news. Dare I hope that what I will receive will enable me to channel or access information from higher realms? Or it could be referring to guidance I receive from a channeler. But I haven't the foggiest what Queen of Pentalcles and its meaning "Spiritual sexuality. She will mother a psychic nation. Annunciation.' is implying. I understand I will need to do some wotk - 10 of wands, draw something to me or learn to do something - How to channel perhaps? I think the 10 of wands refers to the bit that says "to be chosen. to be named". This may refer to announcing to the world that I am a psychic and have something to impart, therefore. allowing myself to be named. That would be a big step. This is all very positive and lovely - if, that is, I have understood this correctly. Still wondering about Queen of Pentacles though. IP: Logged |
Twirl Knowflake Posts: 1583 From: Europe Registered: Mar 2013
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posted August 08, 2013 02:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: ROFL @ the plants. Yes, mine are looking very sad, too. ACtually they are probably comatose by now. I def. do not have a green thumb. But part of me doesn`t like plants inside the apartment. They belong to be outside (the plant was a gift). Yeah, time machine sounds interesting. So far I haven`t had much success though. Unless dreaming of the past counts?
Lol, so you have ONE plant? My inside plants seem happy... The outside few not so much... Do let me know when that time machine is ready Dreams count, but I'd rather be 'transported' with a glass of champagne in a actual device... I also hope they invent something like that for travel, lol. Just open the door and 1 second later: Hello, Caraiben! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 7736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 09, 2013 04:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: Thanks so much Ceri. Much food for thought. The base card signifying 'surrender' resonates clearly with what I've been told before - that I will be taken to or will receive when the time is right for my psychic developement and I should trust that that will occur.If Queen of Wands is meant to be me then that is great news. Dare I hope that what I will receive will enable me to channel or access information from higher realms? Or it could be referring to guidance I receive from a channeler. But I haven't the foggiest what Queen of Pentalcles and its meaning "Spiritual sexuality. She will mother a psychic nation. Annunciation.' is implying. I understand I will need to do some wotk - 10 of wands, draw something to me or learn to do something - How to channel perhaps? I think the 10 of wands refers to the bit that says "to be chosen. to be named". This may refer to announcing to the world that I am a psychic and have something to impart, therefore. allowing myself to be named. That would be a big step. This is all very positive and lovely - if, that is, I have understood this correctly. Still wondering about Queen of Pentacles though.
Astrokeen, the author sais that no tarotreader must interprete this spread for someone else; they will invariably be wrong. It is meant to speak to you, and lead you to epiphanies. So whatever it triggers in you, take it as a hint from your Higher Self. If the Queen of Pentacles doesnT mean anything to you yet, then maybe you are simply not at that state yet. Sorry, I know this is not vry helpful, but in this case I wouldnīt want to mess with your reading. About the Queen of Wands though, I can say I had the same idea. Actually I think both Queens are you. IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 820 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 10, 2013 04:10 AM
Thanks Ceri. Jessica and Twirl, in case you are interested, I found this link from where one can download the text for the psychic readings. One only needs to register first. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/107784473/ESOTERIC-TAROT--PSYCHIC-INTERPRETATIONS Jessica, congrats for becoming a mod! IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 3363 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 10, 2013 10:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: Thanks Ceri. Jessica and Twirl, in case you are interested, I found this link from where one can download the text for the psychic readings. One only needs to register first. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/107784473/ESOTERIC-TAROT--PSYCHIC-INTERPRETATIONS Jessica, congrats for becoming a mod!
Thanks Astro! I'm going to check this link. IP: Logged | |