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Astro keen
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posted August 25, 2013 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Chryseis. Here's AB's chart.

To give you a bit of background: he had a difficult childhood on account of the terrible marriage I had, whch ended when he was nine - I don't actually know how deeply that affected him. He's also dyslexic, and grew up in the shadow of a very clever older brother, which had its own challenges. However, by the time he had embarked on his studies and career as a chef, life took on a rosy hue. He worked hard, landed a great first job, featured (in a minor role) in a TV series and emerged confident and talented. Then entered into a serious but unequal relationship with a girl, Ash, who suffers from depression (like attracts like?). AB has taken on the role of caretaker very seriously, trying his utmost not to be like his dad. I see Ash's lack of self-worth and fears manifesting in worrying ways to AB's detriment and am concerned for him. There are signs that he will weaken and may give up his dreams and hopes to keep the relationship going at any cost. So, two weak people together which is likely to end badly for both. It would be so helpful if you could link into his chart and say how things may unfold, or perhaps the challenges that he now faces. Thank you.

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posted August 25, 2013 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Astro keen,

AB is a really nice person - gentle and patient. He has great reserves to put up with others temperaments. Part of his learning challenges are due to the fact that in this life he had to think from another place in a way. So when I look at Mercury retrograde in pisces at 0 degrees and ruling his ascendant and MC it shows that limits have been placed on him.

When I think of his thinking style, I can almost hear humming like music. Chiron on the MC and in a T-square with Sun and Saturn is amazing. A truly hard task for him has been set here - and he will only achieve some of it but he will achieve it. The task has levels. On the everyday level you will see it in that he probably finds it hard to complete forms - well he gets around it, or he will learn to get around it by going straight to the office or whatever and he will hear it from the people who want the forms filled etc. So yes, he needs help on stuff but its good because he goes and learns and communicates with people - in this he taps into something. In many ways he is thinking with his heart.

He will feel a failure at times, like he has let you and the father down, or that he hasn't measured up to his own expectations. He could withdraw quite heavily, but life bounces him back out there. He could end up in business being the main guy, does he play a guitar? I think there will be a culture set around him including musicians.

The girl called Ash will tire of him - she doesn't want someone even keeled despite being grateful for him in the beginning. She likes to make an impact - he wants peace. I think he may have a relationship with someone who already has a couple of kids. He could stay with them for quite some time. Though kind of peace loving and placid he feels like he could lay someone out if the situation warranted it. He can also be quite the entertainer at times.

He has fears of maybe some kind of law that would make conscription into the forces compulsory. Perhaps people don't naturally see him as attractive - he will possibly get fat as part of that feeling like he has let people down. He will stay quite heavy but the substance of him will change over time so that his tissues are made up better - so I think he will appreciate food and drink better and drink lots of water and this will change his body constituency. He seems a fairly big guy - he doesn't seem small or thin.

I think he could get involved in something like illegal betting or something. He could also maybe assist others to enter the country - possibly friends or family of girlfriends and mates or something. He is not really into the concept of boundaries when it comes to countries or races.

He does have an element of that rising star feel about him. I think that there is more to come with moving in wider circles. I can sense like a trench along the IC/MC axis and it is like he has free rein in a big playing field.

He possibly has quite an unexpected persona than what you imagine of him. He is quite liberal and non-judgemental and could weave through groups of people and be quite popular - kind of like he has 'homeys'. There is a little of a latin sensation somehow with everything.

When I consider the nodal axis, I can feel there is a junction between you and him in past lives. So you do have shared contact in past lives. Past life readings all run together for me a bit - but I think I did say that you had the disabled southern girl life as when I looked at the node, I saw that there was a close caringness and the big guy that carried her down the stairs does feel consistent with ABs past life. Well I think there was a short past life in between. And he was really suffering TB in his 20s in this in between life. So yes, the big African servant that carried the disabled girl down the stairs. And it was a truly caring relationship only.

I hope that such ideas wouldn't freak your son out.

Though he will have a decent amount of money coming in - he seems to squander it - and he seems ok with this. At times he may consider other side jobs to supplement. He can easily give away heaps to children or people he cares about.

He can be annoying to you and others at times like maybe he could suddenly just start going bow wow wa wa wang to like a guitar riff and then make out he is playing a guitar. And he is more inclined to do this when he thinks people are wanting to tell him how to do something. So its his way of saying 'talk to the hand...'.

He will have his trials but for the most part - his heart is in the right place.

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Astro keen
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posted August 25, 2013 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is great Chryseis. You give so much really interesting and useful information. Serenity read for me and advised me to do community service to give back to the universe as I had already 'collected'. I immediately thought of having 'received' from you. Anyhow, this will be carried forward - will think of where and how I can contribute

Some feedback below -

AB is a really nice person - gentle and patient. He has great reserves to put up with others temperaments. Part of his learning challenges are due to the fact that in this life he had to think from another place in a way. So when I look at Mercury retrograde in pisces at 0 degrees and ruling his ascendant and MC it shows that limits have been placed on him.

Yes, he is really nice - lovely to have that confirmed.

When I think of his thinking style, I can almost hear humming like music. Chiron on the MC and in a T-square with Sun and Saturn is amazing. A truly hard task for him has been set here - and he will only achieve some of it but he will achieve it. The task has levels. On the everyday level you will see it in that he probably finds it hard to complete forms - well he gets around it, or he will learn to get around it by going straight to the office or whatever and he will hear it from the people who want the forms filled etc. So yes, he needs help on stuff but its good because he goes and learns and communicates with people - in this he taps into something. In many ways he is thinking with his heart.

The above is very evident - I feel he has always had to work hard in all aspects of his life. A chef's job is no joke, for example, and now even the relationship needs so much effort.

He will feel a failure at times, like he has let you and the father down, or that he hasn't measured up to his own expectations. He could withdraw quite heavily, but life bounces him back out there.

So true, he is his main and perhaps only critic. I do tell him he has lots of potential but maybe that is counter producitve and he sees that as me asking for greater achievements!!!

He has fears of maybe some kind of law that would make conscription into the forces compulsory. Perhaps people don't naturally see him as attractive - he will possibly get fat as part of that feeling like he has let people down. He will stay quite heavy but the substance of him will change over time so that his tissues are made up better - so I think he will appreciate food and drink better and drink lots of water and this will change his body constituency. He seems a fairly big guy - he doesn't seem small or thin.

He's average in height and has begun to gain a little weight recently, so the weight gain may well be true.

He does have an element of that rising star feel about him. I think that there is more to come with moving in wider circles. I can sense like a trench along the IC/MC axis and it is like he has free rein in a big playing field.

Good to know this. Rising star sounds right - he became well known quite quickly with a wide circle of people. He needs the star element to make him feel he's done as well as his brother - that's always been a challange for him.

When I consider the nodal axis, I can feel there is a junction between you and him in past lives. So you do have shared contact in past lives. Past life readings all run together for me a bit - but I think I did say that you had the disabled southern girl life as when I looked at the node, I saw that there was a close caringness and the big guy that carried her down the stairs does feel consistent with ABs past life. Well I think there was a short past life in between. And he was really suffering TB in his 20s in this in between life. So yes, the big African servant that carried the disabled girl down the stairs. And it was a truly caring relationship only.

This is fascinating! Perhaps it is my turn to offer the support in this instance. I wonder why such hard tasks have been placed on him though.

He can be annoying to you and others at times like maybe he could suddenly just start going bow wow wa wa wang to like a guitar riff and then make out he is playing a guitar. And he is more inclined to do this when he thinks people are wanting to tell him how to do something. So its his way of saying 'talk to the hand...'.

Not sure about this as he does not play a musical instrument, he's just a listener. Could I please ask why you think Chiron on the MC and in a T-square with Sun and Saturn is amazing, and what that implies. Chiron on the MC is said to make one a healer or teacher, which I can't see in his case. The Sun sqaure Saturn is an overly self-critical person which seems true. But not sure what the two aspects together amount to.

Thanks again - much hard work in the community coming up!


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posted August 25, 2013 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron on the Gemini MC, in challenging aspect to AC, Sun, and Saturn.

Is he inclined to assist people into the country illegally? So perhaps he is a law unto himself - and he can at times act under his own code despite it being against the law at times.

He also might become so focused on some things that it is hard to snap his attention away - like he could know some amazing detail on certain things - but its almost as if its too much.

Musical scales, numbers, processes, could kind of dance along in his mind.

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Astro keen
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posted August 25, 2013 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doing anything illegal would not be the case; he is much too conscious of doing what's permitted.

"He also might become so focused on some things that it is hard to snap his attention away - like he could know some amazing detail on certain things - but its almost as if its too much.''

Yes, this seems right. Perhaps yet to be explored further. He is sometimes conscious of things in his environment to the extreme. This may be a facility which could fuel new ideas/creativity.

Thanks for responding. You've helped me greatly. Bless you.

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posted August 26, 2013 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chryseis, I am really intrigued by the past life link you revealed with AB. Could I please ask you to take a look at the older son's, RB's chart and see if you get a sense of a past life link there too. His NN is conjunct my MC exact and my Saturn is conjunct his Moon exact. Of course karmic links must exist with all members of one's family, but these may not involve past lives, or so I've read.

RB is a very caring soul. I've come to listen to him for messages from my higher self, usually of a practical nature.

Only if you have time. Thank you.

Edit: I've just seen this link which I thought may interest you. Has me thinking.. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum29/HTML/000226.html

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posted August 26, 2013 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astro keen, I will get back to your other son's chart and have a look at it re: past lives. It may take a few days.

Also, that is an interesting link, thanks for posting it.

I think people need to use their own judgement on these matters - the world is plagued by opportunists at the expense of others.

I am no liar but I will guesstimate a percentage of stuff - I don't claim to be correct - people have to retain their own sense about it all. Sometimes I will be spot on, other times I am way off. I don't wish to negatively influence others - I do feel that I have an ability to access good info at times.

There are always grey areas, and there are probably many reason why the whole area of readings etc is so nebulous. I do think it a little hilarious, that other thread - little bit like a pot trying to call some kettles black. Ooops did I say that, gaddamn it, I'll be in the naughty corner now I guess. I appreciate your input, thanks again,I will get back to this thread within the next few days hopefully.

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posted August 26, 2013 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chryseis:
I do think it a little hilarious, that other thread....

Yeah, I thought so too! I also began to wonder about how I could distinguish the Michael channel I believe in from those described in the article. There are many differences - accuracy for one and no sentimental, repetitive gunge.

Look forward to your reading. Thanks

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posted August 27, 2013 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Astro keen, I will just start typing and see if anything is apparent re: connection.

I can see the most recent life and have an impression of something prior to that.

So the image opens with a young male and football socks, I can hear a radio playing with good music - well when I seek the time - the name that arises is Audie Murphy. As I go through the Wikipedia account thinking that maybe the music was from his westerns, I see at the end of the blurb that he was also a songwriter and well known singers would sing his songs. So this is the nice sounding, quality music with a male voice that I can 'hear'. Kind of like lovely, slow songs that do sound like people would love the lyrics and the stories of the songs - and the music was actually really well engineered (looks like he had composers do that though). When I look through the singers Eddy Arnold and Jerry Wallace give an important feel and I see too that they both sang one of his hit songs, 'when the wind blows in Chicago'. I just youtubed it and the chorus is more jazzier than I thought so maybe it was another one that I can hear because its more like a great song with a ballad feel. So I'm going to have a bit of a surf around Audie's other songs and see if I can find it. So when I say I hear it, I have an impression/knowledge of some music playing and the kind of tempo and tembre and stuff like that. So it feels more like Dean Martin's 'Shutters and Boards', which this Jerry Wallace guy sang too, but the sound is more like Dean Martin. And the song 'When the wind blows in Chicago' it is more like the Eddy Arnold - so yeah, the Jerry Wallace is too upbeat/country. Definitely 'Please Mr Music Man Play a Song for me' Harry Nillson. but I think the Dean Martin attempt at his songs seems the closest actually.

Anyway, that's the time, when those sort of songs were on the radio - so in the sixties it looks like. But if he was in his twenties then, that doesn't leave much time until his current birth.

He feels like he has English/Irish in him though, even his voice does not sound American. His hair seems reddish wavy with strong strands and it wasn't kept to short back and sides, it would grow a bit too much and be like parted but the parted fringe bit would sweep up into a bunch of wavy curls.

He is in some kind of college, and lives there. The environment feels like America, the two words that came was Redmond and something starting with T - it sounded like Refram tennif or something. Though I did get Redmond in there too, as well as Michigan, as well as Border Leister. There is a Readmond Township in Michigan, but Border Leister is a sheep breed I think so I will google it all a bit further. There is also a Redford Charter Township in Michigan and a Richfield Township - so it is one of those R. Township's I think as the Tennif part or whatever it was - made me think of town at the time.(If you can follow all that)

I don't think there is any colleges in these townships though. So when I look for colleges I feel and this is a guess as I don't get anything succinct - he didn't get into a Michigan University and went to Minot State University instead. And I'm not sure but I think it was cheaper and they required less expensive uniform requirements as well as the sport uniform requirements.

The English/Irish factor, I feel was in the grandparents but they still spoke with an evident irish, more so, slight accent. Apparently there was a strong irish contingent in the settlers. And I didn't read it all but some guy wanted to make a 'Little Ireland' in Michigan.

Anyway, so when I look to the life lived, I feel it is in this time of his 20s. There are respiratory difficulties - asthma. He played football and I don't think it was TB as well, but there was a problem in his chest due to closed off, small airless and dampish/mould etc room conditions. So yes, asthma, then kind of bronchitis type of stuff, exacerbated with his footy stuff - no medication except cough syrup and some kind of menthol lollies or something. And there is a time when he was totally choked up with junk on his chest, he is eyes are streaming, he's coughing and eventually he is not coughing - but so unwell. Went to hospital with it. I think they probably administered something like prednisone by injection and morphine. Started to hallucinate, high temps, developed something that seems like a type of pneumonia whilst he was in the hospital. Then declined. Got up in the night, had no idea where he was, was stressed not knowing where to pee had not idea where the light was, started yelling, then thought he could see what he had to do and kind of dived. So yeah, I don't know what type of football he played so I am not sure if he played rugby (looks like on the web that they do play rugby over there). Anyway, he dived for what he thought was the try line and slammed into some kind of trolley which I think caught his eye because it was gleaming and straight along the top edge. Looks like glass was involved, cut open his arm. By this time there were hospital staff around, but he started to lay into them and by the looks of it he had lost quite a bit of blood by the time they could actually get him settled and see to his arm. So what cut his arm open was like a glass case it seems like and I think by the looks of the action he dived onto this trolley with the glass case - the case smashed from the pressure of his arm on it the when he went to get up he dragged his arm across the broken case and slit right up his forearm. The trolley was sort of against a wall or a partition and the case had some small items possible like medications in them live vials but it was locked.

So he lived for a few more days but was very dried out. They did administer fluids but I think he pulled the venous access stuff out a couple of times and they gave up - I don't think they gave him blood and I don't think any was available.

I can not find his family except some impressions of his father and grandfather but its not a strong impression. I can sense his mother she wears an apron type dress as a daydress. I think she supervised which college based on their available funds. I don't think the father was home very often - and I can't ascertain any siblings. I think he was attempting something with Maths at the university/college place but he had no idea what he would do in life and was mainly focussed on football, a couple of girlfriends, had kind of buddies but not close friends. Possibly had a close cousin but he was not at the college.

I can not find you in that life of his. In the impressions of other lives - he may well have been the father of the disabled girl in the red coat. It seems that this is correct.

That's about the best I can do. I could tidy it all up, but I'll just leave it as it is. There is probably spelling mistakes etc galore.

Hope you are ok with it. I think it is right - keep in mind that it may not be. Its the best I can do.

And, I was thinking I'm a bit hilarious too, because being such a skeptic myself, I was sceptical about the angel Michael stuff. But really I think people should go with what they think. After all, I really don't know if I get real info either - I just think it is as it gives such a definite impression most the time - even if some of it is difficult to decipher.

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posted August 27, 2013 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I forgot to google the border Leicester thing and it seems they would likely have had border leicestor sheep in the area.

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posted August 28, 2013 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for this Chryseis. You have a marvellous gift in being able to 'see' events so clearly and then describing them in such interesting detail - a 'definite impression' as you call it. Do you write by any chance or write as part of your job?

The interest in American football/rugby has manifested in this life too. He played in college and continues to do do. No chest or asthma problems, more related to digestive tract instead. It is interesting that all of us had recent lives in America. I wonder if that expresses itself in some kind of affinity for Americana, although it is difficult to avoid that given Ameircan films and music are universally liked.

I've read that individuals whose lives are cut short early will be reborn quite quickly - they have an urgency to be born again to complete unfinished work, so to speak. This is in contrast to people with normal life spans - it is supposed to take an average of 200 years in between births. Will send you a link to the article if I find it.

I wonder how often people are born in family groups and if this bears any relation to being part of a soul group, which again has various meanings. You may find answers to such questions at some point.

Thank you and sendng you my bestest wishes.

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posted August 28, 2013 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Astro keen, yes sorry, the American factor, it just seemed to go that way. I'm not into America myself though I know a lot of people used to think that anything American is just fab - maybe it was once like that compared to the rest of the world. I don't come across many lives in Asia, Africa, South American Amazon, or whatever. When I do, I often can't handle them as they have too much spirit and ancestor stuff, and interaction with elemental type stuff going on - and it kind of gets interactive with my mind. Maybe the closer a person is in tune with their environment and the plants, fauna, and the network of personalities in a small clan - as well as if they have metaphysical practices and a more encompassing world view - the more different their consciousness - it makes sense - so the minds that lived in a more 'constructed' consciousness are safer for me.

I generally find the lives occur closer than 200years, however a great percentage of them seem to end untowardly but then again I guess the life expectancy average was lower before the more modern times.

It feels like there is an agreement in the pre-life state, and it also seems like the person slips into like a slot.

Anyway, thanks Astro keen.

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