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KingofCups
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posted March 01, 2014 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingofCups     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then we're both Virgo rising :P

I see. I can understand that.

So... will I love anyone? If I don't like my own vision of an ideal partner for one reason or another, then who do I love? Are my visions conflicted or impossibly idealistic?

I quite like her actually. And I like her outlook as well: Love me for who I truly am, not what you think I am or want me to be. I agree with that outlook. I find that very few people "get" me, and sometimes, that's my fault. But I would never want someone who didn't know and accept me completely.

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AriesLilith
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posted March 03, 2014 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True true. And Virgo rising rocks!

Hmm I wouldn't say that it is necessarily dooming, but you might have preferences that might sometimes be in conflict with each other and needed to be harmonized. For example, I have Juno in Libra, oppose Aries Sun and square Capricorn Neptune. My husband has Venus right on my Juno, and while I like his Venus, the way he shows affections might sometimes conflict with my idealizations about how love should be, which can make me sometimes misunderstand his way of showing affections. Caps are decisive and steady, and perceives the ideal way as such, while Libra's way might be sweet and different from what Caps expects.

But this is not necessarily a doom, it's just it needs to understand each side in order to harmonize.

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KingofCups
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posted March 03, 2014 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingofCups     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes!

Well, I guess it's good that I have Venus in Aquarius then. Hopefully, the duality helps me to see both sides. On the other hand, Taurus and Aquarius are both fixed signs, which might make both sides very stubborn…

Would you mind explaining Jupiter? I know that this is random, but I've found myself lacking understanding of that planet when trying to do readings. I know that it deals with luck, philosophy, and long-distance travel. But outside of that, I have little idea.

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posted March 17, 2014 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KingofCups:
Yes!

Well, I guess it's good that I have Venus in Aquarius then. Hopefully, the duality helps me to see both sides. On the other hand, Taurus and Aquarius are both fixed signs, which might make both sides very stubborn…

Would you mind explaining Jupiter? I know that this is random, but I've found myself lacking understanding of that planet when trying to do readings. I know that it deals with luck, philosophy, and long-distance travel. But outside of that, I have little idea.

Thanks


Hi again, I have not forgotten about you, but sorry about the late reply!

Jupiter is the 9th house, Sagittarius ruler, and it is related with the higher knowledge and beliefs, wisdom and philosophies. It is the last fire sign, the last fire of the wheel, and it's the light that reaches beyond consciousness.

As opposed to Gemini, the sign that needs to receive information from the outside, to listen, Sagittarius is the sign that "synthetizes" the accumulated knowledge and experience to reach its own wisdom and specialized knowledge. Higher education is also about specialization in a specific area, reaching the higher levels by philosophizing, wanting to understand and reach the truth; while school is Gemini like as we receive knowledge from different areas but are not challenged to think much, simply absorb.

Jupiter is also associated with morality and principles, and the spirituality and metaphysical. After passing through Scorpio, after going through the deep and dark pits of humanity and death, after the "death" of ego (accepting to give up control, understanding the process of death and incorporating the lessons from Scorpio), we reborn in the fire and want to reach to the higher understanding.

There is this need to pursue the truth, to be just and do the right thing. Believing in a higher order, even as opposed to moral subjectivity as one might believe in moral objectivity and universal principles and codes.

So Jupiter wants to expand, it gains a new light and optimism.

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posted March 17, 2014 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingofCups     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello! I know Don't worry about it.

Thank you once again for a great answer. That really helps. Jupiter and Sagittarius seem to be very different. I feel like there are two sides to Sagittarius, a great philosopher and an adventurous flirt.

As always, I am now led to another question. What is Jupiter in Synastry? I was looking at a Synastry chart a little while ago, and the major afflictions all seemed to be channeled by positive aspects to Jupiter. The two people lived in two different countries, so there was long-distance travel involved. But how could that or even philosophy/higher understanding channel negative aspects like Moon Square Moon for example?

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posted March 17, 2014 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate when I can't see!!! LOL

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AriesLilith
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posted March 18, 2014 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KingofCups:
Hello! I know Don't worry about it.

Thank you once again for a great answer. That really helps. Jupiter and Sagittarius seem to be very different. I feel like there are two sides to Sagittarius, a great philosopher and an adventurous flirt.

As always, I am now led to another question. What is Jupiter in Synastry? I was looking at a Synastry chart a little while ago, and the major afflictions all seemed to be channeled by positive aspects to Jupiter. The two people lived in two different countries, so there was long-distance travel involved. But how could that or even philosophy/higher understanding channel negative aspects like Moon Square Moon for example?


Jupiter in a simpler description is an optimism towards life and the world, re-enjoying and feeling alive again after going through Scorpio. The individual might or might not be deeply philosophical or spiritual, it depends a lot on how the Jupiter in each chart is developed (maybe if Neptune is also triggered then it can contribute to more spiritualism potential), but Jupiter even in a "lower" level can display optimism and interest in expansion and knowing or coming into contact with different things and cultures. This is why in synastry, it tends to trigger good feelings and fun towards each other, unless maybe Jupiter is seriously afflicted in the natal chart, so that maybe the person is fanatic or too closed minded.

Also, I'm not sure how to explain this well, but Jupiter can also give a sense of commitment towards each other, specially if activated in the composite with Venus/Sun/Moon/Mars/Saturn/Juno. Jupiter is also about morality and principles, and doing the right things, and also envolves commitment whether in relationships or beliefs.

A Sagittarius that has commitment issues might not be dealing with the lessons well, or has to learn it. Thought strong commitment that is stable and structured is more of Capricorn, the next sign, and Saturn and 10th house. But still Jupiter has a sense of commitment through moral and principles, while Capricorn stabilizes and structures the commitment.

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AriesLilith
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posted March 18, 2014 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*double post*

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posted March 18, 2014 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*triple post*

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KingofCups
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posted March 18, 2014 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingofCups     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
*triple post*

XD

Jupiter is complicated. I understand the personality but not the broader effect. It's hard to explain. I just find Jupiter difficult. It can't be put into something simple. For example:
Mercury- communication, intellect, logic
Venus- emotions, beauty, harmony, romance
Mars- drive, passion, aggression
Saturn- limitations, restrictions, responsibility
Uranus- originality, ingenuity, eccentricity
Neptune- dreams, spirituality, illusions, subconscious
Pluto- intensity, darkness, desire, depth, obsession

If I had to do Jupiter, I'd say: luck, wisdom, optimism, expansion

But one can easily see how communication, emotion, passion, limitation, originality, spirituality, and intense desire can play a role in a relationship. If two people have good Jupiter aspects channeling other bad aspects, then what does that mean, that they have luck on their side? OK, so then what does that tell you? If they do nothing and rely on their luck, all of their differences will be resolved? Wait… (I'm going to keep all of that because that was my thought process and I had an epiphany writing this, I think.) Is it that if they open their minds to new possibilities and views that they can resolve their differences? Or perhaps if they keep an optimistic outlook on life that their differences will be worked around?

I think I'm starting to understand this .-.

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posted March 25, 2014 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess that Jupiter, like any other element, can't really make up for the lack of compatibility of another element, since each elements represents a part of the "whole" (Moon = emotional needs, Mercury = communication, and so on). But Jupiter can contribute to the luck factor to some extend (depends on how Jupiter is aspected in each natal chart), since it triggers our "optimistic towards life" side. Jupiter aspects in synastry can trigger good feelings and optimism, and this can help us to overlook certain issues and feel that it's going to be fine, depending on how strong the issues are.

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KingofCups
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posted March 26, 2014 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingofCups     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK. Thank you. I see that you've posted your chart. I'm going to take a look later today

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