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NYCdodger
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posted March 22, 2016 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am hearing more hooters than at other times.

Hooters????? lol

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Astro keen
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posted March 22, 2016 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo,

It would be really useful to have half a page write-ups for the Ref Library on the trickier major cards - Justice, magician, tower, death etc. Well could be all majors actually. I am sure you've done a few already on LL which could be copied. Or, you could first start writing these on your website at your own convenience.

I am suggesting this because your interpretations are far better informed than those out there and they would be of much help to budding readers. Whaddaya say?

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athenegoddess
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posted March 22, 2016 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lee Loos response is based on an opinion not fact. She isn't the foremost tarot authority. She got reference from a site and her response is void of any proof of her statement like giving examples of when the card has shown up.

Based on observation, when does the Judgement card come up and what circumstance does it tell of?

It tells of an ending all the time; inevitable need to let go.

If you all don't agree, you don't have enough experience of relating the tarot cards to real life scenarios.


Everybody has an opinion for what it means but aren't stating any instances where it has shown up to give merit to their opinions.

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Ceridwen
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posted March 22, 2016 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Hooters????? lol

Wrong choice of words? Yeah English is not my native language as you may notice.
I guess I suddenly get an idea what I REALLY said.

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Ceridwen
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posted March 22, 2016 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:

If you all don't agree, you don't have enough experience of relating the tarot cards to real life scenarios.




Sure.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted March 22, 2016 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Lee Loos response is based on an opinion not fact. She isn't the foremost tarot authority. She got reference from a site and her response is void of any proof of her statement like giving examples of when the card has shown up.

Based on observation, when does the Judgement card come up and what circumstance does it tell of?

It tells of an ending all the time; inevitable need to let go.

If you all don't agree, you don't have enough experience of relating the tarot cards to real life scenarios.


Everybody has an opinion for what it means but aren't stating any instances where it has shown up to give merit to their opinions.


It's not my opinion, it's the original description/meaning of the creator of this card, in its modern form. This basic description/meaning, to which you can add flavors based on experience, has been used by the international Tarot community since the deck was published.

In short, that's the meaning of the Judgment card, as it was intended to.

Now, for someone like yourself who believes ignorance and arrogance are bliss, it may not mean much, but for most people who use Tarot, learning the alphabet comes before pretending one can speak foreign languages.

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Saille
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posted March 22, 2016 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
@Sailie Im a male not a female!


I think you guys are saying the same thing just using different words, which is causing confusion and misunderstandings.

When Athengoddess said Judgement deals with "endings" she is basically saying that it deals with an "awakening" or a "realization". Its like an eureka, or an "AHA"! moment..

When it comes to feelings I see the judgment card as realizing/acknowledging what you're REALLY feeling on the inside. No more denials or cover-ups.

The angel is "calling up" the buried and raising them to the sky. Which symbolically means we are seeing the truth within ourselves and accepting it.


In relationships, the Judgment card may show whats really going on between the two and bringing it to the light (which can be a comfortable or an uncomfortable experience depending on the situation). Lets not forget that THE WORLD comes after judgment. Which means that after we acknowledge and accept whats going on within ourselves we feel happy and complete.


My main issue is that people compare the Judgment card to the Justice. Which deals with a more critical, "you did me wrong, so I'm going to do you wrong" kind of thing.

Judgment has nothing to do with fairness or equality. It deals self evaluation and accepting one's self, and past for what it is.


NYC,

So sorry!! I always try to use they/them just in case this happens, but I was so heated.
I am 100% certain she and I were NOT saying the same thing. I'm sticking with my understanding of the card and how its work with me...and reading everyone esles comments, I'm more confident as well about it. I agree with everyone's interpretation except Athenegoddess.

Interestingly, I have never see the Justice and Judgement cards as close...but I can totally see it now (dudh) I usually do readings for love, so I rarely see the Justice card, but I also see that card as ...ok a decision (judgement) has been/being made ) now here are the results you are going to have to deal with good or bad( justice card). You're already in court in battle,(justice card) while the judgment card is...will this lead to a battle.

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athenegoddess
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posted March 22, 2016 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The poster asked what does the Judgement card really mean.


You are stating that it can mean a number of things.

Is that how numbers work? Does 2 equal the same thing as 7? Why are tarot cards numbered? They all have separate meanings.

Leeloo you are ignorant by not stating any proof to your meaningless words that people eat up which in turn makes them highly ignorant as well.

Again, state the instances where the card has shown up and give proof otherwise this argument has no purpose because I do not take your opinion as fact.

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NYCdodger
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posted March 22, 2016 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok all. So lets just agree to disagree.

Thank you ALL for your input and helping me have a better understanding of what the card means

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Saille
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posted March 22, 2016 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
The poster asked what does the Judgement card really mean.


You are stating that it can mean a number of things.

Is that how numbers work? Does 2 equal the same thing as 7? Why are tarot cards numbered? They all have separate meanings.

Leeloo you are ignorant by not stating any proof to your meaningless words that people eat up which in turn makes them highly ignorant as well.

Again, state the instances where the card has shown up and give proof otherwise this argument has no purpose because I do not take your opinion as fact.


You have truly misunderstood tarot. I read other peoples comments and predictions even when I do not have any questions...and Leeloo is on point, along with Cherful and a few others. But for you, to disregard so many people's comments that all come to very similar conclusions on the judgement cars...tells me we are just dumbing ourselves by continue to watch you insult, and disrespect other members.

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JohnFKennedy
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posted March 22, 2016 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Arguments aside, there are a lot of creative ways to use Tarot. Even though a lot of people only associate "fairness" with Justice (not sure why it was brought up because no ones interpretation seemed solely about Justice), there's a lot of fascinating hidden meaning that the cards can tell us at any given time. For example: https://mysticmedusa.com/2011/10/using-tarot-to-tell-if-someone-is-taken/

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Spica
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posted March 23, 2016 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me it means shock or surprised, something being revealed.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted March 23, 2016 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Wrong choice of words? Yeah English is not my native language as you may notice.
I guess I suddenly get an idea what I REALLY said.

That was so funny, Ceri I hope they look like this:

AK, thank you very much for your words, it will take some time, but I hope to make a list of meanings, at least for the Majors. And thank you Saille, Ceri, Vesta and Kennedy and everyone else for your appreciation

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

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NYCdodger
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posted March 23, 2016 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hooters means big breasts which is why i got excited LOL

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posted March 23, 2016 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Spica:
For me it means shock or surprised, something being revealed.

I agree to this

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