posted October 13, 2016 01:02 AM            

I am his cosmic reward, hehe.

posted October 13, 2016 04:27 AM            

I agree about the ... potential. Though it can and is being somewhat felt even at first meeting, otherwise why even start a relationship with that person?
But of course it absolutely intensifies the longer you are in a relationship or connect to each other.

Why I say this, because some of what is described in the reports was already very evident when I first met P.
Even to the point that I was not in a place to be able to ACCEPT the "blessing" into my life. That is what the report sais (as he is my cosmic reward card, but to reap that I first had to/ have to work through my Pluto-issues apparently, which is pretty true, too).

Anyway does someone else find that those astrological connections mentioned come up again in the actual synastry/ composite as well, at prominent positions?

posted October 13, 2016 07:21 AM            

"The women King of Hearts have problems in their life because they're very strong.
Any woman who is a King is going to have some problems finding the right kind of relationship that fits because they have to find someone with whom they can be themselves.

...

Another thing about the King of Hearts
is that they have the Two of Clubs as their Karma Card. This makes them very smart and
can also cause them to avoid their feelings. Their own personal feelings. They're very
intellectual. Two of Clubs is a fear card, too. It's the 'fear of being alone' card. That
comes out in some King of Hearts, too. He is someone who is inwardly afraid of being
alone and has all this outward charm and ability to get what he wants."

http://www.e7thunders.com/documents/Science%20of%20Numbers.pdf

This really fits. Well outwardly I donīt seem to have a fear of being alone, as I am not in a romantic relationshp for example (which has more to do with my unwillingness to compromise I guess, which might be simply greater than my fear of being alone).

But then again, I`ve always had my family around. Always. I even moved into the house next to my parent`s, we see each other everyday, I am with my brothers all the time, seeing my aunt at least twice a month, we are going out as family or in parts very regularly, too.

And if they are not around (holidays) I often take a real time to adjust to all that free time. lol

So somehow it seems hypocritical to say that I like being on my own; yes I do, as long as I know there is someone there I can go to IF and WHEN I feel like it.

posted October 13, 2016 07:30 AM            

LIFE spread
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he is Mars to her
they are Mars to each other
he is Venus to her

she is Saturn to him
she is Moon to him
she is Neptune to him - haha, so true
she is Uranus to him
she is Venus to him

I like how they have apparently a mutual Venus and Mars connection.

SPIRITUAL Spread
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he is Mars to her
he is Saturn to her
he is Jupiter to her
he is Saturn to her
he is Neptune to her

they are Venus to each other
they are Jupiter to each other
they are Mars to each other

she is Jupiter to him
she is Venus to him
she is Mars to him
she is his Cosmic Lesson card

Honestly? They have THREE mutual connection going on? Venus, Mars and Jupiter?

I think though this report gives ALL connections between the birthdays, not picking 10 as the love cards report does.

posted October 13, 2016 11:13 AM              

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Originally posted by Orange:
**Waiting for Dancing Maenad to report back **

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I am waiting too!

posted October 13, 2016 11:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
I am waiting too!

If I'm not getting it by tonight I'll write them an email.

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you should have definitely gotten it by now. Check your junk mail too?
MissBlyss ordered after you and she already got hers

posted October 13, 2016 12:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
- The Venus Card person will bring love into the life of the partner, similar to Venus - Sun(birth card) conjunction, i.e. - the Venus card person LOVES the birth card, not the other way around. The birth card feels loved by the Venus card. The birth card is the recipient of all that love from the Venus.

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No, not according to the report.

I have two reports here, C and P.

I am the Venus card to C, and it sais there:
"in particular C adores Ceri. "

And P is the Venus card to me in the life spread as well, and it reads:
"In particular Ceri adores P."

It also sais in the report where I am the Mars card to P
"in particular Ceri is a strong stimulant to P. She will either excite him or make him angry or both...
Because Ceri is his Mars card, he is the one who reacts to Ceri as Mars influence and allows her to anger/ excite him."

In short it seems like if someone is our Venus or Mars or Moon card, they activate that dormant quality/ experience in us.

However in terms of transpersonal planetary energy, we seem to be more passively receiving.
So if someone is our Saturn, we feel judged/ limited/ structured.
If someone is our Uranus we feel like the other person is never completely "there" for us/ constant/ reliable.

In the preface of the "love cards book" Camp states:

"If you are my Venus card in the life spread for example, the adoration quality of Venus occurs more from me to you than vice versa. In a sense you represent what I adore, not necessarily the other way around. Still if I am adoring you you are bound to enjoy that and thus you get a certain kind of experience from being the one who is adored that you reflect back to me."

Well it`s never a one way street, or only rarely, maybe the one way connections occur more with the transpersonal energies.
Because usually if someone shows us their appreciation, we will at least have a positive stance towards them; still prinicipally if someone is one of our personal cards to us, we feel that way about the other person.

posted October 13, 2016 12:24 PM            

I agree with Orange. It`s mainly the Moon-connection.
Between what cards does it happen for you?

I suppose it is not between birth-cards, as then it should have been pretty much among the first connections.

As far as I understand they are using of course the birthcards for this, the planetary ruling cards and the karma cards, maybe even the 1st karma card.

well the last connection that is mentioned in the actual report between P and me, me being Neptune to him, is a connection made from my planetary ruling card (2 of diamond) to his second Karma card (9 of clubs).

in the connection list report there occur a lot more connections though (20 connections in life and spiritual spread), and in the actual love cards report they write in the preface that the following are the connections they picked (so a selection really). I suppose they picked them in order of importance, and am still trying to figure out what makes one connection more important than the other.

I suppose though the inclusion of birthcards and planetary ruling cards are always "top connections", at least if they occur on one side of the equation (like birth card to birth card would be very strong; birth card to karma card maybe slightly weaker?).

Anyway, Moon of course is a marriage-connection, and especially in spiritual spread very very strongly indicating soul-familiarity and closeness.

Then it seems like youve had a lot of sexual attraction with the Mars-connections; however Mars connections in the life spread are also more prone to fits of anger and fighting-problems (seems Mars in the spiritual spread is a bit less conflicting in this regard and more about the sexual aspect, at least as Camp told in the video).

Jupiter-connections are mentioned as 3rd important for marriage (always good to have some goodwill).

But I also see he is Uranus to you, so I think he wasn`t really reliable in the end (cuold have been about true friendshp, too, but Uranus needs a lot of space).

posted October 13, 2016 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Ceri, your parents connections are really incredible. It shows so much more than the synastry.

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No it doesn`t show more than synastry. But itīs an equally intriguing (and apparently effective) system.

Also the connection list report shows a lot more connections.

For example additionally to those being used in the report my connection list with P shows these:

life spread:
he is Jupiter to me (occurred already)
my 1st karma card - his 2nd karma card

he is Venus to me (occurred already above too)

I am Jupiter to him
my 1st karma - his 2nd karma

I am cosmic reward to him
my 2nd karma - his 1st karma

Spiritual spread:

he is Neptune to me
he is Neptune to me
my 2nd karma - his ruling card
my 1st karma - his 2nd karma card

I am Uranus to him
my ruling card - hs 2nd karma

I am Moon to him
my 2nd karma - his first karma

Similiarly in the report with C there are these additional connections:

life spread:

we are Venus to each other
my 2nd karma - his 1st karma

I am Venus to him
my birthcard - no clue what Queen of Diamond is for him

he is Saturn to me
same connection as above

spiritual spread

we are Jupiter to each other
my ruling card - his 2nd karma

he is Venus to me
my 2nd karma - his 1st karma

I am Saturn to him
same connection as above
(which fits the astrology, we have a Venus-Saturn-DW there)

I am Neptune to him
Ace of diamonds of me (no clue what kind of card this is to me) - his birth card

So it seems according to the connection list

P and me are Venus to each other in the spiritual spread
C and me are Venus to each other in the life spread

in P and my connection list it occupies position 5
in C and my connection it it occupies position 15

For P and me this connection is made through a combination of
2 of clubs and 3 of hearts
2 of clubs: my 1st karma card
3 of hearts: his ruling card

for C and me the connection is through:
9 of spades and 8 of diamonds

9 of spades: my 2nd karma card
8 of diamond: his 1st karma card

posted October 13, 2016 01:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Another thing about the King of Hearts
is that they have the Two of Clubs as their Karma Card. This makes them very smart and
can also cause them to avoid their feelings.

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posted October 13, 2016 02:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
[b]Two of Clubs is my birth card :-)
So my Birth card conjuncts your Karma[/B]

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Wow! So then you can teach me about that, though of course I won`t like it.

I read that 1st karma card is the one that shows where we need to learn a bit about balanced positive expressions or expressing them at all.

And totally agree on Saturn.
I suppose for the birth card owner it might sometimes come with a feeling of "I don`t know if I really want to go there. Seems heavy", but yes seems like they need the Saturn in their life for some structure, and of course the Saturn profits as well I guess.

Well as per the love report (not the broader connection list)

I am Saturn to P in life spread
and the cosmic lesson (which is Saturn+) in spiritual spread

Just 2 connections, but it`s made by my birthcard (King of Hearts) and his ruling card (3 of hearts) in life AND spiritual spread. so it is pretty far up the listing.

I could however think that he might have a pretty complicated perspective on me.
While I am (Sun), Venus and Mars to him, and on the larger list also Moon and Jupiter, which exlains probably his interest and intrigue in me, I am ALSO embodying Saturn and Neptune to him, and on the larger list Uranus (my ruling card - his 2nd karma card, so a lesser connection).
I guess that can`t be easy.

And yes I`ve also kinda figured out that the main comparison-connections would be between birthcards and ruling cards and the variations thereof.

The others will make themselves felt, too (as he put in the book), but those are dominant ones.

Well for P and me that means the absolute dominant feature is the Moon-connection as it is between both our birthcards.

So the dominant ones would be, following this line of thinking:

He is Moon to me: spiritual (birthcard - birthcard)

he is Venus to me: life (birthcard - ruling card)

I am Saturn to him: life (birthcard - ruling card)

I am cosmic lesson to him spiritual (bc - rc)

- so actually the combo of my birthcard and his ruling card,m which is in Jupiter incidentally, is responsible for 3 connections. lol and interconnects Venus and Saturn-

we are Venus to each other spiritual (ruling card - birthcard)

those would be the strongest ones.

Medium strong would probably those combining a birthcard/ ruling card with one of the karma cards like

he is cosmic reward to me: life (his birthcard)
he is cosmic reward to me: spiritual (my birthcard)

I am Mars to him spiritual (his birthcard)
I am Mars to him spiritual (my ruling card)

he is Jupiter to me spiritual (my ruling card)

we are Venus to each other spiritual (his ruling card)
(so we have this actually twice going on)

I am Neptune to him life (my ruling card)

I am Uranus to him spiritual (my ruling card)

he is Neptune to me spiritual (his ruling card)

and then it sais

he is Venus to me life: 6 of clubs and Queen of hearts

well the Queen is his birthcard, but where does the 6 of clubs come from, I wonder?

My birthcard is King of hearts
ruler: 2 of diamond

1.st karma 2 of clubs
2nd karma 9 of spades