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Valmu83
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posted September 30, 2020 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The trines to Uranus and Mars will stimulate you, rather than create an unhealthy level of stress. ... And, when the Age point reaches the balance point of your 7th house, the rejection issue may be (or already have been) resolved.

Progressed Venus has made a trine your natal Neptune since your 32nd birthday, and continues to do so until age 39. ... So, that 7 years period is reinforcing the progression of the Age Point (from the balance-point of the 6th house to the low-point of the 7th house). ... In effect, the Venus progression is lifting the natal Neptune veil created by your experiences in childhood/adolescence.


That’s good. I’m worried as there is also Chiron square Venus progression that is exact within 3 years. And my natal Venus chiron square is so tight. I’m worried wounding and pain won’t end so easily as there is such progression on the horizon.

Otherwise what you wrote sounds relieving. I was hoping before that Venus trine Neptune would bring love relationship to my life that would be healing. But I’m not expecting that anymore. It’s little bit sad I have to admit but it’s better to accept the realities sooner than later.

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posted October 01, 2020 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Originally posted by Valmu :-

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I’m worried as there is also Chiron square Venus progression that is exact within 3 years. And my natal Venus chiron square is so tight. I’m worried wounding and pain won’t end so easily as there is such progression on the horizon.

This is not new. ... Since birth, progressed Chiron has been activating your natal Chiron-Jupiter-Venus Tsquare (which has its resolution point at 2Pisces37, in 5th house). ... Lynda Hill's interpretation for Sabian Symbol Pisces 3 is :-

"A PETRIFIED FOREST, AN ETERNAL RECORD OF A LIFE LIVED LONG AGO

This shows being respectful of the gifts that come out of the past. The “Petrified Forest” shows remnants of past civilizations; what went before. History always has something amazing to teach us. You may need to retrieve, sort through, or go over records from the past such as memories, art, literature, photographs, crystals etc? Perhaps you’re like a petrified forest; somewhat frozen in time and not knowing how to proceed. It may help if you get the "dead wood" out - it can clog up your cupboards, relationships, emotional life, etc. Letting go clears the way for new growth on many levels. Be wary, however, of throwing out things that are important. Remnants and stillness. Agelessness. Being able to withstand life's storms. Resilience. Coal. Oil. Petrochemicals. Keeping records. Ancient remnants. Stones. Family history.

The Caution: Rigidity, immobility, inflexibility. Holding onto things past their use-by-date. Feeling stuck or frozen. Keeping tabs. Dinosaurs. Severing links from the past."

The progressed Chiron wound is just ensuring that you do not allow 'holding on to the past" to become a permanent barrier to obtaining the (hard-earned) happiness promised by your natal Venus-Jupiter square.


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Otherwise what you wrote sounds relieving. I was hoping before that Venus trine Neptune would bring love relationship to my life that would be healing. But I’m not expecting that anymore. It’s little bit sad I have to admit but it’s better to accept the realities sooner than later.

Don't allow "holding on to the past" to become a permanent barrier to obtaining the hard-earned happiness promised by your natal Venus-Jupiter square.

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posted October 01, 2020 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm.. ”sounds better than it is.”
From the point of view of soul development, that Chiron square is probably a good thing but in this earth reality it is likely to be a painful experience. I would have liked this to end already. I too would like to feel loved, safe and accepted. it’s even more painful because I, too, would have wanted a family, like normal people. After 2023 I’m over 40.. in fact, the chances of getting pregnant have already deteriorated.

May I still ask what would be the best way deal with the T-square. If I’m correct Venus would be the key planet and then if some other planets are making easier aspects to that would be key or? This is something I read somewhere from the web ages ago but i don't know how to apply it into practice.

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posted October 01, 2020 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Valmu83:
Hmm.. ”sounds better than it is.”
From the point of view of soul development, that Chiron square is probably a good thing but in this earth reality it is likely to be a painful experience. I would have liked this to end already. I too would like to feel loved, safe and accepted. it’s even more painful because I, too, would have wanted a family, like normal people. After 2023 I’m over 40.. in fact, the chances of getting pregnant have already deteriorated.

May I still ask what would be the best way deal with the T-square. If I’m correct Venus would be the key planet and then if some other planets are making easier aspects to that would be key or? This is something I read somewhere from the web ages ago but i don't know how to apply it into practice.


The Hubers call Tsquares Achievement Triangles, or Efficiency Triangles ... with the apex planet (Venus) indicating where the achievement/effort is directed.

"Such people like to reach their goal as fast as possible. ... Energy is stored and bottled up in the opposition, then discharged along the two squares (to Venus) and transferred into work. An unsuccessful energy transfer leads to rigid states of awareness; one cannot change and the same mistakes are made again and again." (Extracted from Aspect Pattern Astrology, written by the Hubers]

So ... Venus IS the key planet ... and, since the Tsquare is in both mutable signs and houses, it is well-placed here to attract love from (and contact with) others. ... BUT, you are dealing in this lifetime with karmic issues relating to Venus in past lifetimes, and - as the Pisces 3 Sabian Symbol highlights - resolution of the Tsquare will come when you stop "holding on to the past".

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posted October 07, 2020 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Graham again. But I don’t understand how I can heal my Venus? Just continuing my therapy and trying to resolve my childhood issues?

I noticed that after progressed chiron conjunct my natal chiron around 2023, my Neptune will move to transiting 7th house around year after 2024 and around 2026 it will aspect all chiron, Jupiter and Venus. It seems there is nothing more than pain in my future. I seriously wonder if it is worth to go trough this.

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posted October 08, 2020 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Valmu83:
Thank you Graham again. But I don’t understand how I can heal my Venus? Just continuing my therapy and trying to resolve my childhood issues?

I noticed that after progressed chiron conjunct my natal chiron around 2023, my Neptune will move to transiting 7th house around year after 2024 and around 2026 it will aspect all chiron, Jupiter and Venus. It seems there is nothing more than pain in my future. I seriously wonder if it is worth to go trough this.


I think you have already done all the hard work (of identifying the underlying childhood causes of your current adult/rejection issue), and that continuing with the therapy will result in the Law of Grace* starting to work for you. ... However, ask your therapist if hypnotherapy is also worth considering - as (if done properly) it is a faster solution (so might get you where you want to be before the biological clock stops ticking).

[ *Note : The Law of Grace does not stop the natally-programmed events from happening, but it enables us to no longer be directly affected by them (because of our conscious awareness of the underlying issue/cause). ... For example, a person with a natal Mars-Pluto opposition that caused him/her to physically fight with others when young becomes able (through the Law of Grace) to learn his/her Mars-Pluto lesson(s) just by reading in the local newspaper about a fight between two other people. (Thus, the progression/transit now brings to this older/wiser person a newspaper article rather than the trauma of personally engaging in a physical fight).

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posted October 14, 2020 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank again I have been in hypnotherapy but it didn’t seem to help. Currently I think that schema therapy is been more helpful but I’m not sure if it can help before it’s too late. I guess then children Or childlessness can’t been seen in ones chart with certainty?

Law of grace sound merciful. I hope it will work in some point.

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posted October 14, 2020 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Valmu83:
Thank again I have been in hypnotherapy but it didn’t seem to help. Currently I think that schema therapy is been more helpful but I’m not sure if it can help before it’s too late. I guess then children Or childlessness can’t been seen in ones chart with certainty?

Law of grace sound merciful. I hope it will work in some point.


Horary astrology will provide a yes-no answer to the question of "will I ever have children of my own" ... And vedic astrology is (much) better than western astrology for predicting (and timing) future events.

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