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Graham
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posted November 25, 2020 11:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Age Point hit the low-energy-point of the 5th Koch house on 3rd November 2020 ... and is now in the process of moving towards the cusp/highest-energy-point of the 6th Koch house ... which it will reach on 18th February 2023.

At the low-energy-point of a house, we are akin to a mountaineer in the base camp (at the bottom of the 6th house mountain) ... beginning to prepare/gather resources for our ascent to the top/6th house cusp.

So ... the period from 3rd November 2020 to 18th February 2023 is about climbing UP the mountain ... and then, we have to SAFELY climb back down to the low-energy-point of the 6th house ... where we begin preparing and gathering resources for our ascent of the 7th house mountain.

As you come down from the 6th, you pass through the balanced-energy-point (on 5th June 2025) before arriving at the low-energy-point on 4th November 2026.

Thus ... we now have some dates/milestones to guide us through the passage of your Age Point through Sagittarius :-

1. 5th house Low Point ... 3 Nov 2020

2. 0Sag00 cusp ... 20 Oct 2021

3. 6th house cusp ... 18 Feb 2023

4. 6th house Balance Point ... 5 June 2025

5. 6th house Low Point ... 4 Nov 2026

6. 0Cap00 cusp ... 6 Dec 2027


And, in between these milestones, there are Age Point contacts with natal planets ... or signposts helping to keep you on-track :-

1. AP conjunct Pluto ... 15 Feb 2021

2. AP sextile Moon ... 3 October 2021

3. AP square Sun ... 27 October 2021

4. AP qcx Mars ... 9 February 2022

5. AP trine Venus ... 31 Dec 2023

6. AP sextile Jupiter ... 20 April 2024

7. AP square Mercury ... 5 March 2025

8. AP conjunct NN ... 6 June 2025

9. AP semi-sextile Neptune ... 8 Sep 2025

10. AP semi-sextile Uranus ... 3 Oct 2025

11. AP sextile Saturn ... 13 Feb 2026

12. AP semi-sextile Pluto ... 27 Nov 2026

13. AP semi-sextile Moon ... 11 Nov 2027

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posted November 25, 2020 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the dates. You must know how much I like to have them.

So, up until now, I have been “descending” into the fifth house and moreso into intercepted sign (subterranean?). Seemingly, I have my sixth house ascent to “work”/service/purpose to climb for

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posted November 26, 2020 02:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by Graham, on 29th September 2020 :-

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Note added on 30th September 2020 ... I see Pluto (in the houses chart) is making a RECORDER configuration with Venus-Sun-Uranus+Mars ... and Jupiter is adding to that, by making a STIMULATION triangle with Venus-Pluto.

This is a big change from Pluto's contacts in the Radix, where it makes only a small learning triangle with Moon-Sun+Saturn


Armed with these milestone and signpost dates, we can now turn our attention to my comment quoted above - in the light of your opening thread question on the 15th February 2021 upcoming progressed Age Point conjunction with natal Pluto.
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posted November 26, 2020 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Radix vs House chart is akin to inheritance vs resources, and aspects motivation?

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posted November 26, 2020 05:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
Radix vs House chart is akin to inheritance vs resources, and aspects motivation?

Yes. ... Without the pressures of/shaping by environmental events, you'd be changed/shaped naturally by the natal Sun-Moon-Pluto learning triangle ... But events are going to arise that will provide opportunities to change/be shaped into someone that behaves more along the lines of the stage+talent triangle person depicted in the house chart.

So, we need to explore each of those three figures - to identify the potential changes which they might create in/for you .

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posted November 27, 2020 01:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THE SUN-MOON-PLUTO LEARNING TRIANGLE
This is probably related to your desire to become a psychiatrist. ... Compassionate Pisces Sun in high-minded 9th house; ambitious Capricorn Moon in house of other people's values and psychologically inclined Scorpio Pluto in 5th house of relationships-with-children (or those not yet functioning fully as adults).

Since this configuration is in your natal chart, you will be naturally-inclined to pursue this somehow. ... However, that is not the path which events/environmental pressures will be shaping you to pursue. ... (This is the equivalent of my desire to not become an office worker vs events which - eventually - made that happen.)


THE SUN-VENUS-JUPITER-PLUTO STAGE
This is the configuration that age-point-activated Pluto will be using to shape you ... as it attempts to persuade you (by nurture/events) to consciously behave like someone born with the stage figure in her natal chart. ... BUT, bear in mind that its purpose in doing so is to enable you to make the most of the potential talents of the Sun-Uranus+Neptune-Pluto triangle which sits on top of the stage figure (in the house chart).

In Aspect Pattern Astrology, the Hubers describe those with a natal stage figure as having a big heart but still somehow managing to remain aloof; honest with themselves and able to understand other people's inner motivations, their own place in society and how to explain things clearly. ... In essence, the Hubers considered them to be highly skilled problem solvers that adhere to the motto of to each his own.

Understandably then, one can easily conclude that stage-figure people are ideally suited to a career in psychiatry. ... But, to me, that does not seem to fit with the Uranus/Neptune apex of the talent triangle sitting on top of your stage figure ...... or with the three polarities in the stage configuration itself. (Venus opposite Jupiter : Venus-Sun vs Jupiter-Pluto semi-sextiles : Sun-Pluto easy trine vs Venus-Jupiter difficult opposition.) ... Moreover, my gut-feeling is that the Venus-Jupiter-Uranus+Neptune Tsquare is a highly significant driving force in your house chart. ... So, although this will not yet sit comfortably with you, the Uranus-Neptune conjunction is more than a generational influence in your house chart.


THE SUN-URANUS/NEPTUNE-PLUTO TALENT TRIANGLE

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posted November 27, 2020 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 29, 2020 01:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
To clarify, .....

Note for information ... I am currently pondering on why the Uranus/Neptune conjunction is heavily personalised in your house chart, but not at all in your natal chart. ... Hence, my apparent lack of participation is akin to the absence of ripples on the water when a person is swimming below the surface.

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posted November 29, 2020 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quick google search, Jan Spiller writes, in two styles, static vs dynamic.

Uranus in the 7th House, when, a Conscious [Dynamic] Expression (assumably, House Chart): You know how to uniquely put across your individuality through creatively expressing variety and exciting stimulation in your responses to others. Recognize this need and enlarge your sphere to include impersonal alliances as well as a primary one.
When you understand that having many deep, intimate relationships scatters and depletes your energy, you can expand to a natural interaction of impersonal connections. This results in having all the associations you need for stimulus without a disruption of your energy.


Huber house chart, the People want to be inspired or helped. I spend a decent amount of time alone because am grossly aware of this pulling effect to provide either (granted, my perception as well), and as Jan Spiller writes, have learned how to preserve my resources, rather, benign sovereignty. It doesn't affect my natal chart so much because I don't harbor this 7th house condition unconsciously,, do not have to act it out behaviorally to insight meaning---the kitchen back door (of Reception) is open so to speak.

Analogy aside, I've never felt an obligation to come down or out when a guest arrives when/if I don't feel up for it. Learning to say No without shame has been righteous. Liberating myself from social pressure is a fabulous expression, a muscle of discernment gained due to lifelong navigation.

Eventually, I've also learned to not put added-weight on what anyone thinks, even shares, of me, the trappings of transneptunian logos. Or, more technically, that it's generally not my business, more like symptomatic. There's an inherent vulnerability to this house dynamic, flattering but also risky, sometimes isolating.

I'm curious too. I will let it rest on my mind to see what else comes up as an anecdote.


Jan Spiller, Pluto in the Fith House, Static vs Dynamic (presumably, if translated to Huber terms, Radix vs House)

STATIC
You might withhold using your talents in ways that arouse a creative, spontaneous reaction in others. Failing to tune them into a deeper awareness of their emotional and sexual expression can rob you and them of being in touch with truly creative energies.
You might repress responding dramatically and spontaneously to situations because you fear awakening energies that you or others might not be able to handle. Thus, you may undergo emotional stagnation. When you use ego to repress creativity, it might lead to resenting others for the loss of your spontaneity of self-expression.

DYNAMIC
You can be willing to go beyond your greatest fears and use your power of dramatic expression. You can provoke others into a deeper contact with their inhibitions about expressing themselves completely. Giving voice to your inner child tunes you in to a deeper meaning of loyalty. You can commit to fully expressing dynamic spontaneity when you realize that the creative power that flows through you is not from your ego. As a consequence, you may encounter at first temporary disruption and invalidation in your relationships with others, followed by emotional purification.
When you sacrifice the unconscious motivation of wanting to control others' opinions through your ego power, you are able to operate from a clear motive. Then you can express yourself with a buoyant sense of drama for the purpose of contributing inspiration. Taking the risk of recognizing and exposing your sense of creative spontaneity leads you past your greatest fears and into self-mastery.

great book.. impressed by how it reverberates, what I've already said. ill keep adding snippets of my chart by it.

Saturn in the 9th House: Shows the need to acknowledge the desire to inspire others through your knowledge. Saturn offers the responsibility of having faith in your philosophical belief system, allowing it to expand to include the information that comes from new ideas and experiences.

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posted November 29, 2020 01:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Is there any possibility that your fine art work might be sponsored/funded by someone or some body during the six years when your Age Point passes through Sagittarius?

And ... how would you feel about that? ... Would it restrict/inhibit your creative expression/freedom in any way?


2. When your Age Point progressed through the first three houses, it activated Pluto via a trine (14 Nov at Age 5); square (6th March at Age 15) and sextile (5th June at Age 20). ... Are you able to remember what was going on with you during those activation periods?

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posted December 01, 2020 02:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I am thinking* that (as the Age point passes through Sagittarius + 6th house of work)) someone, somebody or something is going to challenge your core values/beliefs. And - if that results in a change of your core values - you will be inspired to express those new values through your fine art work.

[ * Saturn in Aquarius/9th, ruling the Uranus-Neptune conjunction in Capricorn/7th. ... And 9th house is the 3rd house from the 7th.]]

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posted December 01, 2020 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi graham, will need a day to respond. currently preoccupied with something [plutonian] that came up during the eclipse

ps, Austria asteroid 136 conjuncts my Sun-MC at 2PISC14

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posted December 08, 2020 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 08, 2020 07:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Give mea day or two to look at his chart.

However ... Do you think you might have a fear of success, rather than a fear of failure?

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posted December 08, 2020 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Touché...http://youtu.be/PvJH3oUkFrg

OOB Mars as handle of bucket, activated in the House chart

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posted December 08, 2020 12:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I am not sure what kind of creativity to look for in his chart, so need an example of a work which he would be proud to have created. ... And, it would help to also have an example of a work that you would be proud to have created.

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posted December 08, 2020 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Off the top of my head ... Perfectionism is often at the root of both fear of success and artistic "constipation".

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posted December 09, 2020 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure.

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quote:
Originally posted by vansio:
Sure.

You have Perfectionist Virgo on the cusp of your natal 4th house of psychological foundations, ruled by Mercury in creative-but-shy Pisces/10th house of status/career. ... And that Mercury makes an oscillo configuration with Sun-Uranus+Neptune-Chiron (respectively in Pisces/9th house of high-mindedness, cautious Capricorn/8th house of other's values and look-at-me Leo/3rd house of communications.

In Aspect Pattern Astrology, the Huber's state that a person with a natal Oscillo configuration is "self-critical and never completely satisfied with herself. From time to time, she is susceptible to bursts of energy and the dissipation of substance (tendency to escapism and wastage). As long as there is no emotional tension, she sticks at one thing, and then she suddenly finds an excuse to go before anyone can notice an incipient tension."
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He has Virgo duplicated on the cusps of his natal 11th house of social contacts, ruled by Mercury in harmony-seeking Libra/12th house of hidden things. ... And that Mercury is at the apex of an Achievement Triangle with Jupiter in nurturing Cancer/9th house of principles and Saturn in status-seeking Capricorn/3rd house of local community. ... Moreover, in his duplicated 11th house of Virgo, Sun is conjunct Mars; trine Saturn and sextile Jupiter.

So ... he learned early in life to not allow perfectionism to get in the way of his productivity and success. ... (Perhaps because of what you did for him?)

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Originally posted by vansio:
I guess it’s settled what the Pluto AP point as event entails for vansio. A past connection returned for yet-be-told experience, activating the 7th House Neptune/Uranus initiative.

Man goes through Tr. Pluto conjunct Venus transit the week of meeting and Vansio’s natal Pluto sextiles this Venus 0°


Another +1 ✔️ for Huber LifeClock profections




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Re. your comment on 4th Jan 2021

What might that mean ... (assuming that the AP conjunction to natal Pluto IS flagging up the passage of the AP through Sagittarius)?

[Re. my comment on 2nd Nov 2020.]

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