posted September 02, 2021 02:34 PM            

Go to Astrodienst and play with Travel-Click.
When you click an area, it tells you the effects of lines there on the upper right sidebar of the page. You can also view what it says about the more challenging lines.

I know the IC (Home) and a planet there like Venus (pleasure), would make you 'feel at home' in that area.

From some charts I've seen-- really examine 'why' you would want to go live on your Chiron line. I've seen that act to as a malefic to other planet-lines it parallels or intersects with.

Possibly
Uranus can bring disruptive change.

Mars IC could bring contentious atmospheres around your home, real estate, or work environment.
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But I guess it depends how you get along with your Mars. If you are a Leader making tracks in life, it can have you appear to have more gusto, push, belligerence???
Again, it just depends on WHY you want to move.

You said you want Happiness?
That's Venus, .. Jupiter .. in good aspect

hmmm
Venus and Jupiter on the Descendent line could after a while create an increase of 'dependency' on other people in partnership with you? That's cool if you'd be looking for a very traditional approach to marriage, where you agree on a 'unity' between you. Where the 'two' become 'one' in unity and partnership.

posted September 04, 2021 01:55 PM            

Now, did you know that Astrodienst gives you the Relocation Chart itself?

Look under the Chart Selections.
Scroll close to the bottom of the list, and find Relocation.

Draw up your chart.
The 'Reference Place' you chose might be the location where you are now.
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Hint: If you do their Daily Horoscopes, look to the right sidebar, and 'see' your Reference Place.

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Draw up your chart using the 'Relocation' chart type.
(As I mentioned,
your current City will be shown).

Now
from this chart
You can CHANGE the Reference place.

Look all the way down at the LEFT bottom of the Relocated 'now' chart (where you live 'now').
You'll find a clickable link to CHANGE your Reference Place Location.

Set that new Location FOR the city you want to see a chart for.

Examine the influence of this new City with respect to 'where' your planets are on this new chart.

Look at 'where' (eg. Placidus cusps) your planets moved to.

See the change in Sign and degree (if any) regarding the ASC/DESC and/or MC/IC.

The basic planet 'aspects' will not change.
If you have (for example) "Saturn square Pluto" in your natal, you'll have the SAME aspect playing out, but accentuating a different area of Life.
For example 'that' square could go from 11th to 8th house, and shift to ASC-H1 and 9th?

INCLUDE the Part of Fortune and the Vertex (in additional objects selection). This will show where you might have luck, and meet someone/group that can make a difference. Give you opportunity, hook you up with a mentor, or job, a future Mate or someone that's really going to impact your life?

On the Relo Chart, check the aspect grid.
FIND if there are changes in your ASC and MC.

Your Ascendant would describe 'how it feels' to your Personality-- Will the area feel like it supports the way you present yourself, or, since ASC is a 'body' point, will you feel more awkward, or 'the place' doesn't "suit your pores?" (pun) as much as another place has in the past.
Example, how does Relo VENUS feel about your change? .. Does a quincunx change into a trine instead? That might mean that you can 'feel' MORE like yourself there. You feel 'more YOU' and like you can be yourself there.

With MC .. Look for any trines, sextiles for things that support. Or, would there be the sensation of having obstructions to overcome in settling into a career?
So, how is your new place going to flow in support of your Career, your Public Image?
..
Lots of squares or opposition could give the 'sense' that you're having a 'harder' time pushing-through to find a job?

The Sign of the MC will have changed, perhaps?
* Leo would 'put you in the limelight, on the Stage' as a Speaker, for example.
* Virgo might bring more favor if you worked a job in the health field, or in Computer Programming and Analysis...

So basically, you have a clearer 'feel' of what that Change could bring you.

Don't forget NON-Astrological Matters -------------
It's equally important to do your research ABOUT the City, the Towns, the people who live there, the economics; do they have good doctors or is there a shortage in doctors there?
What about Housing? How expensive is it to live there-- what's the Cost of Living like?

If politics is important (one way or the other) you may wish to live somewhere where the dominant party works 'for' you, 'for' your Life and wellbeing--- or do the things they vote-for go against your own needs, or even the survival needs for a whole community (in catastrophes of various kinds)? Do they govern in way that serves the needs of the people? Or do they have a reputation of redirecting things like grants and finances given by the Feds, FOR the special needs of the people? Are the legislators working to block access to the funds slated for them? OR, are they instead redirecting those funds in secret, to reward their rich cronies, paying back favors for monies and influence that got them elected, or now for seeking re-election?

Right now, I'm listening to TV, and Texas has just banned abortions. Some corporations were going to set up a work-site there, and NOW the corporations are putting their plans on halt, because of extremist rules that work AGAINST the age group of women in their employ.

Anyways.

You can throw in a few asteroids if you want?
There are name asteroids for certain cities, or for the 'things' that your new city is known for.
You can use occupation-asteroids that are indicators of the job/career you are looking to develop.

posted September 12, 2021 10:44 PM            

Ignored all that.

posted September 13, 2021 11:01 PM            

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For Miami : your Pluto 9th went into 8th
8th House is a place for 'self-mastery'.
overcome fears, place for metaphysics, astrology
any joint resources with a partner
underground crimes, crime-groups
and sex

Quote:
When Pluto is in the relocated eighth house--
.. intense emotions may dominate nearly every facet of your life.
.. extremes and a “do or die” attitude are probable,
.. “feast or famine” experiences concerning food, sexuality, money, and resources are possible.
Willpower and strength-of-purpose are accentuated.
KEYWORDS
fanaticism, tragic events,
record achievements and endurance,
rage, fury of destruction;
transforming, maniacal, daemonic, homicidal,
inspired, explosive, influential, subversive.
(Pluto is the ruler of Scorpio.)
- ref David Muir

I see you're from Iowa?
The culture in Miami may be quite different from towns in Iowa.
Do some research on Miami.
(wikipedia could give you much)
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Highly recommend that you learn Spanish well if you want to thrive in Miami. Especially for business.

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Know 'why' you want to move to a place.
Then look at planets that describe that.
How do those 'why' planets line up house-wise in the relo chart.

For learning's sake, it's great having small conversations.
however--

Please contact a "seasoned EXPERT" so you can save yourself money, labor, and perhaps some costly emotional mistakes.

Mark (astrologer) has a telephone number you can call. He's in the Seattle, Washington area. I listened to someone interview him about his life, and career relocations he's made. Seems really down to earth. Nice guy. He might even know things about the places you're considering, and could advise on that if he does.

posted September 15, 2021 01:48 PM            

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For one-to-one communications with me? ..
My situation at home is all-around NOT good.
So I'm sorry that for (right now) I can't be available except through posting at LL.
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Otherwise, you can still send me messages, charts.
Scroll all the way down the page here, and hit "Contact Us". Send email to Randall at my attention.

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As far as Jupiter line?
It's on your Descendant right?
That would involve any one-on-one Relationships in your life--- whether for having a lawyer, a counselor... all the way to potential marriage or business partners.
'Romance' would be your 5th House.
'Committed' relationships are your 7th.

Don't think that Big Ole Jupiter can't blanket its energies past a specific line.

Like colors or sounds, the influence is still very much there, depending on your Intentions FOR moving TO specific areas.

Any planet smack-on the points-- like ASC/DESC MC/IC, are going to have the strongest influence.

Look at your natal. Look at the planets AND ASPECTS they make. This might 'color' your experience IN whatever geo you wind up in.

Really depends on their 'condition' in your natal?
Another thing too? A move is valuable in learning what belongs to 'you' (your personality) and what belonged to 'others' (problems encountered).

Again....
At the bottom grid of all the relo-charts, it will show any changes to your Ascendant (your self, how your body bones and pores feel WHILE being there); and the MidHeaven (your dealing with the public and accessing work for Career, also your dealing with any 'authorities' while IN that area).

And, just because a 'square' or quincunx or sesquisquare appears, doesn't mean it's going to be 'bad'. Could mean that you would have certain irritations or obstacles to get around, in order to make that place your home.
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Like I was saying about Miami--
you'd be more comfortable and successful IF you were fluent in Spanish and can get into their culture.
Better to be Bi-lingual in Florida. Jobs are skewed in favor to those who speak spanish.
They also have the dominant voice in politics.
One county in mid-FL (Osceola) holds 'the most' (un-acculturated) Spanish-speaking citizens. Reports say they rank as a denser and higher culture, per capita, than in any other area in the USA.

Your Charts for relo will only give 'general' information--
However, you might want to do research on the dominant culture in each area you would chose to move to-- in America.
Can you resonate with their lifestyles?
Their politics? Their preferred language (if not english?
(especially if you want to 'do business' among them)

America is supposed to be a 'melting' pot--
but over several decades now, it seems that some chunks remained undissolved with the 'general group' of english-speaking Americans.

Do your 'research' ON the People.
Do your needs/products 'serve' these in whatever demographics?
Will you find people 'like-yourself' there?
Or! Maybe you look for people who ARE different from you-- have immersion into different cultures on the SAME continent.

It will be excellent for you to talk with Mark.

You'll be able to come back HERE, and tell us how he interpreted your choices in Lines according to your natal chart base-energetics.

posted September 15, 2021 06:14 PM            

Go USE the Astrodienst AstroClick Travel feature!!
Play with it, to get familiar.
Try your locations. Click along the lines, or ON the place you'd want to move.
Read what it says (in the upper right sidebar)-- play with it.
You can find the way to expand it to include all the aspects touching your reloPlace.
You'll either need a good memory, or do highlight prints of text-- or whatever you do to take notes.

.. Your Moon line crosses there too.
Depending on which house the Moon will occupy-- e.g. if it is relo'd in the 10th, it will make you a more notable person before the public.
If you're a speaker, or want to publish, work in a college/university, get with an international-business, be a sports coach, preacher, or even a musician you'd get more attention.
{Jupiter + Moon area}

Politically
Those areas in the North where your Jupiter Line runs through the mid- and north- east States, tend to live and vote according to Democratic values.

(From things I've read of yours now--
you're a Maga-Qanon enthusiast?)
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Then perhaps you'd feel MOST at home, making your nest among those in the Southern-most States of the US (if you want broad-vicinity to your Jupiter Line).
State of Florida south, would be closest ---
Although, I'd warn you that parts of Miami-Dade county {where City of Miami is} tend to Remain Blue.

The Jupiter Line next renews contact with Land once it gets to Cuba, and the Caribbean Islands.

If you were to buy or rent a home in the Caribbean (if you are able to do your research from computers) then Jupiter could favor your endeavors pertaining to 7th House matters in the kind of work you want to do?

You'd want to get some fluency in languages (besides English) --
Learn Spanish,
or French,
or Dutch?
according to the Island you'd settle in.

I bet the Jupiter Line goes down into South America if you were bold enough with plenty of finances to survive there independently.

BTW,
I once lived in a Cuban neighborhood for a year.
The men were watchful and very gallant.
They had GREAT food and upon invitation, plenty of it.
Cubans make the Best cup of EXPRESSO coffee ~evuh...

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I'm interested!
What KIND of research are you doing?

YouTubes have great 'locality' vids. People lead you on tours of their Towns, and talk about the region.

What A Time To Be Alive, eh?
All you need is Internet Connection,
Curiosity, and a Great Imagination.

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ADDing...
Take a plane!
Personally fly and spend the weekends in the various regions, places.

When I was in my 20s, I LOVED to just pickup and go experience a town and their people for 6 weeks. Was a fantastic way to absorb various lifestyles and cultures. Meet people on cross-country Amtrak trips! I had made a friend for life, on one trip. He was an artist, and also worked on court sketches for a prominent trial. His work appeared in big newspapers. Was sad when I learned he died.

posted September 15, 2021 07:09 PM            

COVID sucks.

I miss how easy it used to be to travel.
Meet all sorts of people.
Go to conventions in topics of my interests.

If YOU have the finances, Pluto..
You can learn so much -- even about your self, when you travel.

It's worth it.
Even just around the United States,
there's soo much to discover.

If you're able to-- Just Go!!
Explore!!!!
It will make memories, and even some Friends.

posted September 16, 2021 12:22 AM            

I guess what I am hoping to find out for anyone who can answer it is will living in Miami help me benefit from the Jupiter line or is it too far from the orb of influence?

posted September 16, 2021 09:51 AM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Sigh....

I guess what I am hoping to find out for anyone who can answer it is will living in Miami help me benefit from the Jupiter line or is it too far from the orb of influence?

Please God, someone, just answer the god damn question

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You could Pay a Pro who knows for sure --

or... uhm.
Do you realize you've 'damned' your own question..?
Maybe that's a sign against such a move.
Jupiter rules Sag and the natural 9th House -- the God House. You're asking your move to be cursed??

Check the keywords for Pluto in the relo 8th again.
{It's working already? }

I guess you don't have the funds to travel to the area and go 'feel' what its like? Test it for yourself?

BTW Make sure you're vaccinated.
Florida is a COVID sewer.
You won't get away unscathed (uncontaminated).

posted September 16, 2021 12:22 PM            

I don't have your birthdata.
You're going to have to interpret it yourself.
You can click to view the inharmonious aspects too.

Your 'answer' is hidden in your question, btw.

But WHY do you think it HAS to BE smack-on in order to affect your life?

YOUR success, ultimately, no matter where you are in the world, will come by 'your' honest and hard work. You have to apply yourself. Won't necessarily land in your lap?!
In that area? Hopefully you'd have integrity, so you won't get caught in dirty deals and go to jail; or worse, be attacked by nefarious gang member in retribution for what you 'did' to them?

Keep poking around the map and reading features.
Then take a break.
Then, go back to see it again.

Keep going dude!!

If you own a parka for cold weather with sturdy snow boots, you could consider the Northern part of that Jupiter Line?
The changes in season can be seen and felt.
Leaves are beautiful around this time of year.

posted September 16, 2021 12:46 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
I'm glad you finally got over to Travel click and are playing with it. That's what I was trying to get you to do.
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I think my username causes some confusion. I’m not plutonianmenace.

posted September 16, 2021 12:56 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
I think my username causes some confusion. I’m not plutonianmenace.

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omigosh!!!!! Soooo sorry PlutoWasHere. ...
Thanks for calling that into attention.

Yes, I've been trying to get him to work some of the things I've/we've said, for himself. Spending some time with the Click and sidebar responses (for his own purposes) can teach him some things about astrology in general, where he could give input to others.

Or! Maybe he'll come up with the 'money' to hire the Pro. Could cut to the chase, not waste time. BE sure.

A 'relationship' with live and 'seasoned' astrologer can give benefits you'd might not expect.

posted September 16, 2021 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
omigosh!!!!! Soooo sorry PlutoWasHere. ...
Thanks for calling that into attention.

Yes, I've been trying to get him to work some of the things I've/we've said, for himself. Spending some time with the Click and sidebar responses (for his own purposes) can teach him some things about astrology in general, where he could give input to others.

Or! Maybe he'll come up with the 'money' to hire the Pro. Could cut to the chase, not waste time. BE sure.

A 'relationship' with live and 'seasoned' astrologer can give benefits you'd might not expect.

(He has not expressed an interest in going outside the US.)

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No problem! I totally understand the confusion.
I think contacting a professional astrologer would be a great idea. Certain questions keep coming up repeatedly and I think that plutonianmenace would definitely benefit from a more 1 on 1 setting so he could get deeper into the how and why of certain things.

posted September 17, 2021 09:03 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Have you looked at a map where you have checked the box "with harmonious aspects" yet? Maybe there is a Jupiter in aspect with MC line for you to look at? At Astro.com there are two additional boxes you can check with AstroClick Travel. One is "with harmonious aspects" the other is "with disharmonious aspects".

I am not a professional but Miami seems to be too far away from the Jupiter line when I look at the scale of the map.

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posted September 17, 2021 09:27 AM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Can't the effects be felt for 100s of miles?

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Jupiter is the HUGEST planet there is in our Solar System. How is your Jupiter aspected in the natal?
What 'sign' is Jupiter in?

Have you formed a specific "intention" for making your move there yet? Clear Goals? --
Around how-old are you? Have you had your Saturn Return yet?

* What did the astroClick Travel say when you clicked on Miami? In the sidebar, you can choose to see 'all' aspects for that place.

Read the text description they give you about the influence of the lines and possible physical-emotional-social effects you might expect.

* The other experiment would be to click around New York City WHERE the Jupiter line is ON the Land. Check what it says. (Even Boston.) You'll be aided by the Moon Line too--- depending on what your 'intention' is for living in those areas.

Again, if it's 'the area' you're trying to move to, it's a wide area as far as your geo lines are concerned. ... But then too, you said in the relo-chart that PLUTO went to your 8th.

In the relo-chart for Miami, where is JUPITER and its aspects? If the maps don't give you enough info, check the relo chart.

* Try working off a DESK TOP computer instead of a phone or pad, if that's part of the obstacle or resistance you have with working the astrodienst product?