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Sagan951
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posted February 06, 2022 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagan951     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hello, I am going through worst period of my life. I Suffer from depression last five years and my doctor says I am emotionally instable. It all culminated three weeks ago, when I tried to take my own life. Now I don‘t know how to get my **** together and keep on living. It is like the wall is in front of me. I have been to different astrologers and they all say different things. One told me that After age of 27 I will enter the better period of life, but I don‘t See it happening.
Will there be better days for me in this lifetime or it is all just depression and suffering?

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Springtimeflower
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posted February 06, 2022 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sagan,

Transiting Neptune (illusions) has just gone past making an exact conjunction to your natal Saturn (reality) in the 8th house--death/transformation (around the end of January). Around three weeks ago, transiting mars was squaring the above conjunction and putting stress on the issues that Neptune had activated. Transiting mars (battles) being in Sagittarius (truths). Things should get better now, but later this year when transiting Neptune goes direct in Dec 2022, it will be around 22 deg, whereas your natal Saturn is around 21 deg, but may still affect you is some way in November/December. The last part of this transit will usually help you to understand why something is troubling you and also help you to make changes for the better.

With Saturn being affected in most transits, worrying about something can also make you feel even more anxiety, etc., so making any changes around you that can help to alleviate this will help you a lot. If you need some assistance, please let someone help you. I think there is a national hotline that is available to help you 1-800-273-8255. They should be able to help with any personal things around you that is most likely contributing to how you are feeling or at least refer you to someone else that can help.

Hope this helps. Hugsssss

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wayfinder
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posted February 06, 2022 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wayfinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sagan951:
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Hello, I am going through worst period of my life. I Suffer from depression last five years and my doctor says I am emotionally instable. It all culminated three weeks ago, when I tried to take my own life. Now I don‘t know how to get my **** together and keep on living. It is like the wall is in front of me. I have been to different astrologers and they all say different things. One told me that After age of 27 I will enter the better period of life, but I don‘t See it happening.
Will there be better days for me in this lifetime or it is all just depression and suffering?


I am so sorry you are struggling. I too have struggled with extremes in my mental health and the western mental health system has left me neglected and always more confused.

I want to offer a couple things I see in your chart as well as a suggestion to look into more indigenous / alternative ways of self care,(unless its an emergency of course) astrology being one of them so good to you to being open to it. These are the only things that have helped me.

I noticed right away that you have the South Node on your Sun, this on its own is a very sensitive point that will present a struggle with your life force, this also is right on your sensitive angles, the MC and the IC. No aspect should be looked at as doom and gloom, but we have to be real about the challenges different aspects will cause a life. All challenging aspects are work but they bring people who live extraordinary lives driven by a purpose to change things. This is true for you especially with these aspects. It is your purpose for your life to be somewhat of a symbol of breaking away from the past (South Node). Moving towards the Scorpio North node at the root (IC). Honoring ancestors, transformation and transmutation with the help of your lineage, the land, creating deep containers and environments of safety here. You can see all these changes benefit the 6th house (the day to day organization and health of society). The Sun is your entire chart ruler, governing Leo which is your ascendant so this aspect and any aspect to the Sun will govern your life. It should also be noted that the current Nodes of the moon have recently shifted into Scorpio / Taurus so this is likely why things have climaxed as they are right over your Moon / Pluto opposition. I would say leaning into your 6th house Neptune and Uranus can help, trusting relationship to the unseen, to healing and getting to know it in your body can help as the Nodes are trining and sextiling this part of your chart. You are NOT meant to live a "normal" day to day or what society tells you is normal with these placements. These challenges are meant to help channel new energy into a different kind of approach or relationship to your body, spirit, health and rituals in the 6th.

This is an INTENSE activation on your Moon / Pluto and I'm so sorry it's impacted you in this way. Try to allow the space for grief and acceptance in your feelings. Moon / Pluto connections are sometimes connected to the care-giver and patterns of abuse, not to say this is YOU but perhaps something that has impacted you in your home life with Pluto in your 4th. The nodes are attempting to clear this out for you in a way. Moon / Pluto have the power to reconcile and transform emotions with mastery of this aspect and I think even tho this transit is intense its purpose is to help you reach a stronger place in your experiences of that opposition. Oppositions can have the effect of feeling "Unstable" (I have several and have been told that i am this several times in my life). Don't give up tho or let those people label you. You are not these feelings and you have the power to become a beacon of strength and powerful change with your emotions both for yourself and the world with this all being on your MC. It's taken me a while to balance some of my oppositions too but it can be done, just not with the help of and western mental health structure in my personal experience.

I would also suggest diving into your ancestry and relationship to the dead. With that North Node on the 4th house IC this is an area that you may be asked to get more familiar and comfortable with, you may find that there are allies for you here in this world. It's also super important for you to create the kind of home and environments that can give you this safety. Your needs matter. I will say for me personally a lot of my struggles I felt I would never overcome, I felt like I have finally mastered some of them and they have turned into strengths after my Saturn Return. The Saturn return was still hard and a challenge but it was all pushing me into my purpose.

The world needs folks like you to help change what is labeled as "normal". It's okay to need help sometimes and I hope you will always feel encouraged to reach out for help if / when you need it.

Sending you lots of love!!

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Kannon McAfee
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posted February 06, 2022 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sagan951,

First, Springtimeflower is right to point out the transit of Neptune closely conjunct your natal Saturn. This transit distorts your perception of 'reality' and has been active for at least a couple years. (So it does not account for your depression of 5 years.) It is very important that you not believe negative thoughts about yourself or your future now. This is one of the things astrologer and author Robert Hand emphasizes about the transits of Neptune-Saturn combinations:

Things are not as bad as they seem.

You are undergoing a number of challenging transits, so it is important to understand this is the most difficult time of your life and it will not continue. I won't list all those transits because it would accomplish nothing. This is a make-or-break period for you.

Decide to have a good life and be good to yourself. You can decide that now, even if you don't know [i]how[/b] to make it happen. Decide it. Then learn a bit more about the how one day at a time with great determination — as if it is a certain accomplishment.

Your life has value and you are here for a reason. Trust that by putting that value on yourself (not on the specific purpose, which you may not know for a long time and in hindsight). Our main purpose is love and first and foremost to love ourselves and life. So find your way to that however you can. One day at a time.

What I want you to do is get some Smoky Quartz — not the really dark opaque kind that's been artificially irradiated. Avoid those. Get the natural Smoky Quartzes that are partly translucent that can be various shades of brown-gold-gray in color. Smoky Quartz is THE crystal to have on your body 24/7 when depressed and having difficulty going on (or feeling suicidal). It grounds your energies back into the body, gives you a lift and a boost of determination. You can get small tumbled Smoky Quartzes online (Etsy) inexpensively.

I also want you to get some Kunzite. It can be obtained cheaply, even by the kilo. It is a very healing, stabilizing crystal. Place them around your bed and keep them on your body in the daytime (in a pouch or pockets, same with Smoky Quartz).

Lastly, consider taking the herb Mimosa flower. It can be obtained from practitioners of TCM/acupuncture or online. http://tcmwiki.com/wiki/flos-albizziae If you can get it in the concentrated (powder/granulated) form and take enough (especially in the evening before sleeping), then I believe it will have benefits for you. You will probably also want a daytime dose. I've used a 5:1 concentrated powder and had to take up to 1/2 teaspoon doses twice daily. It was very effective at calming anger/agitation/anxiety, lifting depression, and improving sleep. Feel free to follow up with me here or via my website linked below if you have any more questions.

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Back2Black
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posted February 06, 2022 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Back2Black     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sagan951:
http://ibb.co/MDTkd6H
Hello, I am going through worst period of my life. I Suffer from depression last five years and my doctor says I am emotionally instable. It all culminated three weeks ago, when I tried to take my own life. Now I don‘t know how to get my **** together and keep on living. It is like the wall is in front of me. I have been to different astrologers and they all say different things. One told me that After age of 27 I will enter the better period of life, but I don‘t See it happening.
Will there be better days for me in this lifetime or it is all just depression and suffering?


Mental instability might be coming from Pluto about to trine your Mercury. I just had this transit, it is difficult. I will say trust your own gut, avoid things that stress you out, and practice self acceptance. Gravitate towards things that you felt brought you happiness, peace, and healing in the past.

I agree with the poster who mentioned Neptune conjunct Saturn can be causing you issues. I know someone who had that transit last year and for them it manifested in trouble finding a job that worked for them and many job changes.

Lastly, I see that you have Saturn in your seventh house for the first time. I'm not sure if for you this will be a good or a bad thing only because Saturn is in Aquarius. Even though Saturn represents burdens, I personally don't see the negative of attracting Aquarian like people.

Saturn is however, gearing up to oppose your Mars. So this may feel like anything that you quickly decide to do or anything you do in anger during this time will cause you trouble later on.

Since the Saturn-Mars opposition will be occurring in your 7th and 1st houses respectively I will say avoid any permanent changes to your appearance during this time. This includes any surgery if it's not ENTIRELY necessary to have right now. Any quick changes you make during this time you may regret later on.

Saturn can represent limits or burdens, but Aquarius represents servitude and selflessness so I'm not certain if the Saturn transit may end up being beneficial towards you.🤔

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posted February 06, 2022 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LunaIscariot
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posted February 06, 2022 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m really sorry you’re going thru such a hard time right now, hugs ❤️❤️❤️. Please know that you’re not alone, tons of people know how it feels to be depressed and suicidal myself included, I feel like that’s important to say because I know for me, it can feel very isolating and alienating and it was a great comfort to know it’s not just me suffering and having a pity party or feeling like a victim thinking “poor me” “why me” etc. Being a human is hard, life is hard, there’s going to be ups and downs, but I promise things ALWAYS get better eventually, you just have to stay alive/tough it out long enough to realize that. I promise, promise, promise. Prayer is powerful, I suggest your pray. It’s always worked for me.
Life is worth living, the good outweighs the bad.

Some practical steps to help with depression:

-have a regular sleep schedule, this regulates your moods/feelings and is huge to your overall health/productivity
-drink at least 8 glasses of water a day
-shower or bathe daily, hot water is very committing and relaxing and will help ease stress and anxiety
-don’t eat junk food, try eat whole foods like fruits/veggies/whole grains/fish/meat/nuts etc.
-listen to healing/mediation/chakra healing music, it’s free on YouTube. I will leave some suggestions below
-go for a walk if you can or get some form of daily exercise or if you can, yoga/meditation. Again look it up on YouTube if you don’t know how
-talk to a friend, if you don’t have any, write in your journal, write out all your feelings, everything that’s bothering you on a piece of paper, then fold it up and burn it and set the intention of releasing all those negative emotions or thoughts
-masturbate (I know it sounds weird lol but orgasms are very healthy and it gets stagnant energy moving)
-get a pet/animal/dog/cat etc. if you can. It will give you a purpose, a reason to wake up

And most importantly, we tend to be depressed for 1 of 4/5 reasons

-friendship
-romantic relationship
-health
-job/money/security
-family

Those are the few key things we need to have in order in order to have a good or fulfilling/healthy life, if even one of these is missing, depression is likely. So do your very best to slowly work on one at a time, if you can, and things should greatly improve
If you have all of these, and nothing in your life is wrong or missing, you could just have a chemical imbalance, and if that’s the case, try asking your doctor for some anti-depressants, you’ll know within a month if they work for you.

Of course if it’s past trauma or experiences causing the suffering, definitely do some cleansing/cord cutting work. And therapy can help a lot too.

I also suggest instead of going to an Astrologer, go to a reiki/energy healer instead! Find one in your area
Try a spiritual bath as well, positive affirmations.
There’s lots of options, look into it! Don’t you dare give up before you’ve tried everything! Sending you lots and lots and lots of love. 🥰🥰

Remember healing don’t happen overnight, it will take at least a few months or even up to a year, but you can do it! I believe in you!

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posted February 06, 2022 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for saronna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was in hospital & my sister said you have got to see things through. I was depressed & suicidal for about four years. I manage my depression with prayer & meditation warm shower & naps & drinking juices & water. I look at my 6th house for passion & this helps me with depression
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posted February 06, 2022 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
+ 1 to all of what LunaIscariot wrote.

Also, have been there myself, and for me, it was a very holistic process of healing/re-balancing (as L.I. implied in her very holistic post).

One thing that I would stress and mention (since I haven't seen it mentioned so far) is the importance of calling on, and asking for spiritual help and guidance from the purely Creative/Love attuned forces/levels/beings.

Particularly for help with psychic/energetic shielding from any negative nonphysicals and ET's.

In many cases of severe, suicidal depression, a person is often being "egged on" psychically by these psychopathic beings. It makes it harder to move out of these dark states because these beings are trying to resonate a person to their lower level while constantly whispering in one's nonphysical ears (so to speak) "just do it, it will end the suffering, just do it, you'll be better off" etc, etc.

(This [psychic egging on] is also very common for people also trying to heal from addictions like substance abuse or sex addiction. Pressure is put on them from these outside forces to stay stuck in these patterns.)

For me, when I called on the help of Arch Angel Michael to protect/shield me, it made a big difference (though was not the only factor which helped and which was necessary to change). This is "Michael's" job and purpose--what he/it was created for. He's sort of like Source's (or the fully grown up, child of Source turned Co-Creator of this Universe?) bad arse guard dog for humans against negative forces. Very strongly Yang energy, so actually "he" is quite appropriate though he doesn't have a body or a physical gender at all.

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posted February 07, 2022 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wayfinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by saronna:
I was in hospital & my sister said you have got to see things through. I was depressed & suicidal for about four years. I manage my depression with prayer & meditation warm shower & naps & drinking juices & water. I look at my 6th house for passion & this helps me with depression
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004912.html


Yess, your sister is right!
You 6th house energy is so cool. Uranus at the "anaretic" degree of 0 says that the divine mind is speaking and almost birthing a whole new way of embodying Uranus energy for you in the 6th. You have a lot of brilliance in this house, trust in it! Neptune is Capricorn is really interesting too cause it feels like your connection to spirit and your different healing methods can really be brought down to earth and into form in a way that is unique to you.

I personally have Uranus and Neptune in Capricorn and I find that physical objects, like talismans (symbolic jewelry), crystals and other protection oils and things really helped me feel less anxiety moving through the world. I pray to them often to help embed my ancestors and protector spirits into their energy, something Neptune in Capricorns can do quite well.

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posted February 24, 2022 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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