posted March 24, 2023 04:51 PM            

I was wondering when I met my two most important relationships, I noticed that progressed venus was in challenging aspects with my Natal ASC/MC and on transits, the planets in challenging aspects with progressed ASC/MC showed precisely the nature of the two partners as well as the nature of the relationships themselves. It is so inaccurate that it's impossible to believe in fate. I have Saturn and Uranus in closed squares with my Sun, and these two planets are in my 7th/8th house natally. My first husband was very Saturnian e. The relationship was serious and stable, lasting eight years (longitude a very Saturnian thing). My second one was Uranus, which describes my second husband perfectly, and the relationship started very quickly and finished very quickly. Also, he was very weird! He had harsh Uranian aspects to his planets; my first also had brutal Saturnian elements to his plans.
Also, both were much older than me, Libras, and were born around the same time. Although one is Brazilian and the other English. It gets better; I met both in person on the same day, the 21st of December, when the Sun was in transit to my 7th house, coincidence? They are, for sure karmic connections, people from the past I had unfinished business with that I had to resolve in this life. I am concerned because I have checked my transits and progressions and could not see any significant aspects for the next four years. Does that mean I won't have a long-term relationship anymore? I don't care whether I'll marry; in fact, I wouldn't go that road again unless something beyond my control happens. But... I want to find a life pattern, and I am starting to be a bit scared that I won't find that in this lifetime. Could anyone look at my progressed chart? Or share experiences regarding progressions?

posted March 24, 2023 04:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Clementine:
Hey, friends, I hope you are doing ok! @stoika miss you. I hope you're ok ❤️

I was wondering when I met my two most important relationships, I noticed that progressed venus was in challenging aspects with my Natal ASC/MC and on transits, the planets in challenging aspects with progressed ASC/MC showed precisely the nature of the two partners as well as the nature of the relationships themselves. It's so accurate that it's impossible to not believe in fate. I have Saturn and Uranus in closed squares with my Sun, and these two planets are in my 7th/8th house natally. My first husband was very Saturnian e. The relationship was serious and stable, lasting eight years (longitude a very Saturnian thing). My second one was Uranus, which describes my second husband perfectly, and the relationship started very quickly and finished very quickly. Also, he was very weird! He had harsh Uranian aspects to his planets; my first also had brutal Saturnian elements to his plans.
Also, both were much older than me, Libras, and were born around the same time. Although one is Brazilian and the other English. It gets better; I met both in person on the same day, the 21st of December, when the Sun was in transit to my 7th house, coincidence? They are, for sure karmic connections, people from the past I had unfinished business with that I had to resolve in this life. I am concerned because I have checked my transits and progressions and could not see any significant aspects for the next four years. Does that mean I won't have a long-term relationship anymore? I don't care whether I'll marry; in fact, I wouldn't go that road again unless something beyond my control happens. But... I want to find a life pattern, and I am starting to be a bit scared that I won't find that in this lifetime. Could anyone look at my progressed chart? Or share experiences regarding progressions?

date of birthday: 25/03/1988 Penapolis -SP Brazil. the dates I met my two ex-husbands:
21/12/2002 and 21/12/2014.

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posted March 25, 2023 06:13 PM            

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Originally posted by outofideas:
wait, you married when you were 15-16?

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posted March 31, 2023 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
Hi Clementine!

You didn't put your birth time with your other chart data.

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posted April 01, 2023 09:27 PM            

Didn't mean to confuse you. I meant just the birth info that you gave..time was only missing..I'll try to take a look tomorrow..have been busy..thinking those marriages may have been related to where Jupiter was each time as it transits through all it's signs over a 12 year period..which would make the next one in 2024...let me check that..

posted April 02, 2023 11:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
or rather 2026..

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posted April 02, 2023 11:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
Hi Clementine,

Didn't mean to confuse you. I meant just the birth info that you gave..time was only missing..I'll try to take a look tomorrow..have been busy..thinking those marriages may have been related to where Jupiter was each time as it transits through all it's signs over a 12 year period..which would make the next one in 2024...let me check that..

Spring

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posted April 02, 2023 10:07 PM            

I know you're focusing on progressions specifically, but in 2002 and 2014, transiting jupiter was in leo and in December, 2026, it will be in Leo again. What's interesting is that transiting of Jupiter in Leo squaring your natal venus in Taurus..it's symbolic of your saturn conjunct uranus natally in that it's a challenge of--do I stay single or do I enter into a relationship with this person. Also, transiting Pluto has also been squaring your natal Jupiter..look more at your transiting for right now as transiting saturn is also closing in on conjuncting your natal mercury, which may make you worry, things may seem worse than they really are, etc. Transiting mars is also closing in on conjuncting your natal Moon, which is square to your natal Sun..putting stress on you in some way as well. I have my moon in cancer like you do..the moon rules my 6th and 7th houses..

I'll try to look more tomorrow..

I just had something with my dog pop up which is pulling my attention away..

posted April 03, 2023 08:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
Hi Clementine,

I know you're focusing on progressions specifically, but in 2002 and 2014, transiting Jupiter was in Leo and in December 2026, it will be in Leo again. Interestingly, transiting of Jupiter in Leo squaring your natal Venus in Taurus..it's symbolic of your saturn conjunct uranus natally in that it's a challenge of--do I stay single or do I enter into a relationship with this person. Also, transiting Pluto has also been squaring your natal Jupiter..look more at your transiting for right now as transiting saturn is also closing in on conjuncting your natal mercury, which may make you worry, things may seem worse than they really are, etc. Transiting mars is also closing in on conjuncting your natal Moon, which is square to your natal Sun..putting stress on you in some way as well. I have my moon in cancer like you do..the moon rules my 6th and 7th houses..

I'll try to look more tomorrow..

I just had something with my dog pop up which is pulling my attention away..

I think each particular transit or progression brings us different experiences..so maybe the next one in 2026 will last longer for you as the progression has finished..it sounds like you didn't miss the last two.

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posted April 03, 2023 02:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
Hi Clementine,

I know you're focusing on progressions specifically, but in 2002 and 2014, transiting jupiter was in leo and in December, 2026, it will be in Leo again. What's interesting is that transiting of Jupiter in Leo squaring your natal venus in Taurus..it's symbolic of your saturn conjunct uranus natally in that it's a challenge of--do I stay single or do I enter into a relationship with this person. Also, transiting Pluto has also been squaring your natal Jupiter..look more at your transiting for right now as transiting saturn is also closing in on conjuncting your natal mercury, which may make you worry, things may seem worse than they really are, etc. Transiting mars is also closing in on conjuncting your natal Moon, which is square to your natal Sun..putting stress on you in some way as well. I have my moon in cancer like you do..the moon rules my 6th and 7th houses..

I'll try to look more tomorrow..

I just had something with my dog pop up which is pulling my attention away..

I think each particular transit or progression brings us different experiences..so maybe the next one in 2026 will last longer for you as the progression has finished..it sounds like you didn't miss the last two.

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posted April 04, 2023 09:32 PM            

I got some medicine for her and so far she is doing better..she just doesn't like getting drops in her ears or eyes..

I should have more time tomorrow..need to get some sleep..

posted April 05, 2023 05:04 AM            

No worries dear, I am not in a rush.

I am very grateful for all your help, seriously it means a lot. God bless you ❤️

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Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
Thank you Clementine!

I got some medicine for her and so far she is doing better..she just doesn't like getting drops in her ears or eyes..

I should have more time tomorrow..need to get some sleep..

Take care,
Spring

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posted April 05, 2023 11:02 AM            

Thank you for your kind words/thoughts for my pup. She is doing better now. I also help my mother as well..she turned 99 last month.

I plugged in your birth data to a placidus type chart on Astro.com and see that Saturn, Uranus and Neptune are all in your 7th house with that chart. Also, with your Saturn, Uranus and Neptune as a part of a stellium, and thinking about how transits, etc. affect us, I believe you have at least a third partnership coming, which may have some of these characteristics: idealistic, "the one", spiritual, deception, rose colored glasses, etc. depending on the person you meet. Again, they will most likely be older since your natal Neptune is in Cap. Let's hope for "the one".

Later this month, the transit of Mercury in Taurus will conjunct your natal Venus, which may bring welcome news, but it's retrograde and you won't see possibly the results until May and maybe more welcome news...and on these transits and the transit with Uranus conjuncting your natal Venus now..it may be an exciting, free from attachments relationship or relationships that come your way..so maybe wait till this transit passes..for any commitment..after March of next year..the squares and oppositions of Uranus to Venus are really ones to look out for, so this one may be an exciting, but no strings attached like you are hoping for as Uranus does rule our hopes and wishes. You also have your Jupiter return this year and of course Jupiter rules your 7th house, so you may have some opportunities come up and as it moves to around 5 deg on December 21, it trines that stellium in your 7th house. You seem to be able to size these guys up, but Neptune also rules intuition, so maybe try to use this to help you see the reality of what comes your way or with transiting Saturn getting closer to your natal Mercury, talk with an older/experienced person that you trust to consult about things when they come up. When Jupiter is involved, the guys are usually honorable and good people.

My niece that passed earlier this year, and was a year older than you, also had her sun in Aries, gemini rising and her mercury in pisces...she was very pretty, tall, and struggled with her physical weight. She was very creative and expressive.
You have a different moon placement, though, and opposite your natal uranus. She had a square between her moon and uranus..always trying to find something new and more exciting to do. You have a nice grand trine in your chart between your moon, mercury and pluto planets. I don't know if you make things, but your creativity and how you express yourself spiritually are beautiful.

posted April 05, 2023 03:05 PM            

Wow, what a wonderful reading thank you so much! I am very intuitive, and I usually have prophetic dreams, but I am not sure whether this grand trine influences that. I am very creative, yes, and I love art, especially music! I was in a band in my teens. Now I study media and communication and want to work with media production.

I am glad your puppy is well, and please look after your mum! She is lucky to have a daughter like you.

I am sorry to hear about your niece; she was too young. Why did she pass, if you don't mind me asking?

Yes, all the other two partners were much older than me. I think it is the rule for me in this reincarnation hahaha, but I like mature men, so maybe that's the reason why I attract them. I am concerned that my next will be a Neptunian type... yes I am very aware of the kind of partners I attract, so I am with my two feet on the ground.

Spring can I can ask you something? Where do you think I meet them or maybe this next one? Just curious about your opinion.

Take care of yourself family, and your puppy.

Love,
Clementine

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Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
Hi Clementine,

Thank you for your kind words/thoughts for my pup. She is doing better now. I also help my mother as well..she turned 99 last month.

I plugged in your birth data to a placidus type chart on Astro.com and see that Saturn, Uranus and Neptune are all in your 7th house with that chart. Also, with your Saturn, Uranus and Neptune as a part of a stellium, and thinking about how transits, etc. affect us, I believe you have at least a third partnership coming, which may have some of these characteristics: idealistic, "the one", spiritual, deception, rose colored glasses, etc. depending on the person you meet. Again, they will most likely be older since your natal Neptune is in Cap. Let's hope for "the one".

Later this month, the transit of Mercury in Taurus will conjunct your natal Venus, which may bring welcome news, but it's retrograde and you won't see possibly the results until May and maybe more welcome news...and on these transits and the transit with Uranus conjuncting your natal Venus now..it may be an exciting, free from attachments relationship or relationships that come your way..so maybe wait till this transit passes..for any commitment..after March of next year..the squares and oppositions of Uranus to Venus are really ones to look out for, so this one may be an exciting, but no strings attached like you are hoping for as Uranus does rule our hopes and wishes. You also have your Jupiter return this year and of course Jupiter rules your 7th house, so you may have some opportunities come up and as it moves to around 5 deg on December 21, it trines that stellium in your 7th house. You seem to be able to size these guys up, but Neptune also rules intuition, so maybe try to use this to help you see the reality of what comes your way or with transiting Saturn getting closer to your natal Mercury, talk with an older/experienced person that you trust to consult about things when they come up. When Jupiter is involved, the guys are usually honorable and good people.

My niece that passed earlier this year, and was a year older than you, also had her sun in Aries, gemini rising and her mercury in pisces...she was very pretty, tall, and struggled with her physical weight. She was very creative and expressive.
You have a different moon placement, though, and opposite your natal uranus. She had a square between her moon and uranus..always trying to find something new and more exciting to do. You have a nice grand trine in your chart between your moon, mercury and pluto planets. I don't know if you make things, but your creativity and how you express yourself spiritually are beautiful.

I'll look at things more later..need to check on my mom.

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posted April 06, 2023 12:39 PM            

Thank you again for all the kind words and thoughts. I hope you have a good family around you as having that support is so important.

Based on your chart I would think you could meet your next husband/partner through friends, groups and organizations (this could be charities or other businesses) or other 11th house matters. Taurus tends to be a banking or aesthetic type of sign, so maybe at your hairdresser or salon, art show or bank, etc...you can look at what that sign rules.

On my niece, if I had been her mother, I would have raised her so much differently than her parents..maybe that's what I saw in the dream I had of her..I had an argument with her father during the Summer about the family drama around us..long story so I won't go there..and we didn't get together for Thanksgiving and Christmas..wondered if that affected things, but her father was becoming more like the others around us that thought kindness and compassion were weaknesses and not strengths. She had a good boss where she worked, though. My niece had overdosed and her father would call for help...but right before she passed, my niece moved out and it happened in front of the home that she was to move to. No one was there to help her. I've re-thought all of this, but knowing how much she had been influenced by her parents (mother had been with her for years, they divorced 2-3 years ago and was currently absent, but still enabling her with money while her father and boss tried to control what she spent the money on). My niece had also taken advantage of me as well as others financially, but seeing transiting Neptune in her 10th house for a long time told me that she needed a good husband (I know people can't rescue others) and didn't really know what she wanted to do careerwise...if I wasn't taking care of her grandmother, had another responsibility that now I would not have volunteered for, etc., I would have tried other things to help her.

I noticed that you also have Neptune transiting in your 10th house. Your artsy stuff and music creativity will help to ground that, but it can sometimes make things difficult..thinking things are worse than they really are..especially so in looking at the natal aspects you have to your moon.

I hope this helps further and that you have a wonderful Easter.

posted April 07, 2023 05:51 AM            

Yes, my first boyfriend was introduced to me by a mutual friend we had. My second saw me for the first time on a Facebook comment I made on a person I knew who happened to be one of his friends. It does make sense, but they were never rich. They were all poor, hahaha another thing I find incredible is that I always attract Libran guys, and I have nothing in Libra relating to relationships in my chart. Just my 5th house cusp, but Venus is in Taurus.

I am so sorry to hear what happened to your niece, I think Mercury in Pisces is a very delicate placement. My father also passed recently back in 2021 after a severe heart attack. He was Sun and Mercury in Pisces and Moon in Sagittarius, and he lived in the bar. This placement, if not well channelled to things such as art or spirituality, can lead to addictions easily. My Mercury is in Pisces although I was never addicted to any drugs, there were times that I would do weed almost every day. But now I don't do any drugs and quit even social drinking.

You are so right about my Moon, the opposition with Saturn and Neptune is probably one of my worst placements! It makes me gloomy at times and is almost like I enter into a black hole with no end, I can't see the light! Life feels like a burden, and at times I wish I was dead. Also, a lot of delusions, sometimes I do not know whether I am fantasising about something or if it is an intuition; very hard! But after starting meditation, I noticed a positive change in my mood, but still, I have to always keep myself busy so I won't fall into deep sadness again and again or daydream things like that. I study occultism and astrology, and it helps me a lot with these oppositions.

Thank you so much for your patience in helping me with my queries! I always like to have someone else's opinion on my transits and charts because I can easily distort reality. God bless you and your family.

Have a wonderful Easter.

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Originally posted by Springtimeflower:
Hi Clementine!

Thank you again for all the kind words and thoughts. I hope you have a good family around you as having that support is so important.

Based on your chart I would think you could meet your next husband/partner through friends, groups and organizations (this could be charities or other businesses) or other 11th house matters. Taurus tends to be a banking or aesthetic type of sign, so maybe at your hairdresser or salon, art show or bank, etc...you can look at what that sign rules.

On my niece, if I had been her mother, I would have raised her so much differently than her parents..maybe that's what I saw in the dream I had of her..I had an argument with her father during the Summer about the family drama around us..long story so I won't go there..and we didn't get together for Thanksgiving and Christmas..wondered if that affected things, but her father was becoming more like the others around us that thought kindness and compassion were weaknesses and not strengths. She had a good boss where she worked, though. My niece had overdosed and her father would call for help...but right before she passed, my niece moved out and it happened in front of the home that she was to move to. No one was there to help her. I've re-thought all of this, but knowing how much she had been influenced by her parents (mother had been with her for years, they divorced 2-3 years ago and was currently absent, but still enabling her with money while her father and boss tried to control what she spent the money on). My niece had also taken advantage of me as well as others financially, but seeing transiting Neptune in her 10th house for a long time told me that she needed a good husband (I know people can't rescue others) and didn't really know what she wanted to do careerwise...if I wasn't taking care of her grandmother, had another responsibility that now I would not have volunteered for, etc., I would have tried other things to help her.

I noticed that you also have Neptune transiting in your 10th house. Your artsy stuff and music creativity will help to ground that, but it can sometimes make things difficult..thinking things are worse than they really are..especially so in looking at the natal aspects you have to your moon.

I hope this helps further and that you have a wonderful Easter.

Spring

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posted April 07, 2023 06:00 PM            

Sending hugs to you. Hopefully you have made some good friends where you live now.

I'm guessing that you are worried that a possible partner that has Neptunian qualities may be like your father.

What's interesting about your Libra (balance, harmony, assertiveness, relating in partnerships) ex's is also how it might relate to your Moon opposite that Cap Stellium. I learned from another astrologer or read in a publication that the oppositions in our charts show where we need balance in our lives. You mentioned staying busy to overcome the sadness, illusions and all from those aspects in your chart, but what those oppositions mean to me is that working too much or being at home too much can put us off balance..so balance there is about giving some attention to both..work to live versus living to work, etc. and you may have seen some of that through them. As you know Uranus rules spontaneity, Saturn responsibility and Neptune rules idealism and maybe these were also things that popped up in your relationships.

My niece had her moon in Gemini conjunct Chiron opposite Saturn and Uranus. Her natal Mercury was making a square to her Saturn and Uranus. Her father also had his Sun and Mercury in Pisces. His moon was in Aries, but what's interesting is that his brother has his moon in sagittarius and when they were younger, they would fill up a large trash can with beer bottles/cans between them on a good weekend. Her dad quit drinking a few years ago and rarely has any alcohol to drink. The synchronicities here are interesting. Her mother has her sun and moon in Libra, with Cap rising and aquarius intercepted. Her father had pisces rising with aries intercepted. Her mother had pisces on her 2nd house with aries intercepted. What's interesting is that her father learned about sorrow with this new beginning (1st house)--her passing and the mother about her values/money by enabling her and seeing the outcome.

My niece didn't believe in astrology or other metaphysical stuff, so that was a big help for you..learning about yourself..she was orthodox in her religion. I tried to encourage her in trying to do some things with talents she had--she did a wonderful job making a memorial pic book for one of their pets that passed away. She also made a poster board display once that I thought was really good..but her father could be a dream squasher for doing things that deviated from regular work. I think he got that gene from our mom. Our other brother is the same way. I think she really needed someone to closely mentor her, get her treatment when needed and be her biggest fan.. instead of taking care of everything and not giving her things to do around the house during her formative years.

Good on you for meeting the challenge of those aspects in your chart. You didn't let them get the best of you.

My nieces boyfriends were people of other races, which makes sense with Sagittarius placements in her 7th house.

The positive about your moon placements is that will make you work towards balance, which may people often lack. It can rub off on you. When meditating, have you tried to do grounding techniques?

I tend to pick up other people's emotions, so I've felt quite of few new ones over the last few years. Some seem frightening.

I'm glad I could help in some way. It's hard when there is so much going on around us.

posted April 08, 2023 01:03 PM            

Thank you, my dear, you are so kind! I do have friends, but they are always busy with their stuff, and I am with mines, but the Universe always finds ways to put amazing people on my way and for that, I am so grateful! Besides, thanks to technology, I can always chat with my family and try to visit them once a year.

Yes, I do! Deception I cannot deal with another one, and having my Venus in the 12th house, I am always concerned that might happen as it happened so many times before. I want companionship, a partner to have a family and settle down with. I am scared I'll be alone for the rest of my life. Two astrologers said I would not have children, and it frightens me because I am 35 and don't even have a relationship.

I like your insight about my partners. Yes, I think I've learned the lessons these planets represent through them. My first one, which embodied Saturn, taught me discipline, hard work and responsibility. Unsurprisingly, he came into my life when I was in my teens. He did what my father didn't do, as he divorced my mum when I was 11 years old and was always absent. The second helped me relax and not be too hard on myself, which I always do. He also taught me to channel my creativity and introduced me to all kinds of arts as he is an artist. The third God knows, but I think can be the idealistic side. I think Neptune can also be helping others without expecting anything in return, like a Pisce type of person sacrificing for others.

My sister is a moon in Gemini too. Yes, it is pretty interesting the similarities your niece and I share. Looking into her chart, could you have predicted that would happen to her?

Thank you for the meditation tip, I will try the grounding technic maybe start meditating in the garden as the weather is getting warmer now.

Thank you so much for your kind words and great insights.

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Hi Clementine!

Sending hugs to you. Hopefully you have made some good friends where you live now.

I'm guessing that you are worried that a possible partner that has Neptunian qualities may be like your father.

What's interesting about your Libra (balance, harmony, assertiveness, relating in partnerships) ex's is also how it might relate to your Moon opposite that Cap Stellium. I learned from another astrologer or read in a publication that the oppositions in our charts show where we need balance in our lives. You mentioned staying busy to overcome the sadness, illusions and all from those aspects in your chart, but what those oppositions mean to me is that working too much or being at home too much can put us off balance..so balance there is about giving some attention to both..work to live versus living to work, etc. and you may have seen some of that through them. As you know Uranus rules spontaneity, Saturn responsibility and Neptune rules idealism and maybe these were also things that popped up in your relationships.

My niece had her moon in Gemini conjunct Chiron opposite Saturn and Uranus. Her natal Mercury was making a square to her Saturn and Uranus. Her father also had his Sun and Mercury in Pisces. His moon was in Aries, but what's interesting is that his brother has his moon in sagittarius and when they were younger, they would fill up a large trash can with beer bottles/cans between them on a good weekend. Her dad quit drinking a few years ago and rarely has any alcohol to drink. The synchronicities here are interesting. Her mother has her sun and moon in Libra, with Cap rising and aquarius intercepted. Her father had pisces rising with aries intercepted. Her mother had pisces on her 2nd house with aries intercepted. What's interesting is that her father learned about sorrow with this new beginning (1st house)--her passing and the mother about her values/money by enabling her and seeing the outcome.

My niece didn't believe in astrology or other metaphysical stuff, so that was a big help for you..learning about yourself..she was orthodox in her religion. I tried to encourage her in trying to do some things with talents she had--she did a wonderful job making a memorial pic book for one of their pets that passed away. She also made a poster board display once that I thought was really good..but her father could be a dream squasher for doing things that deviated from regular work. I think he got that gene from our mom. Our other brother is the same way. I think she really needed someone to closely mentor her, get her treatment when needed and be her biggest fan.. instead of taking care of everything and not giving her things to do around the house during her formative years.

Good on you for meeting the challenge of those aspects in your chart. You didn't let them get the best of you.

My nieces boyfriends were people of other races, which makes sense with Sagittarius placements in her 7th house.

The positive about your moon placements is that will make you work towards balance, which may people often lack. It can rub off on you. When meditating, have you tried to do grounding techniques?

I tend to pick up other people's emotions, so I've felt quite of few new ones over the last few years. Some seem frightening.

I'm glad I could help in some way. It's hard when there is so much going on around us.

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