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Ra
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posted October 20, 2004 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Two nights ago I was dreaming, my perspective was one from space, looking at the Earth. Something came near the Earth, and the Earth began to spin VERY fast. It spun itself apart from top to bottom.

The rest of the dream was one of searching for people, gathering people and things for survival. There was the impression of very large tornados and great earthquakes.

If I were to analyze this for someone else, I would say that their "world" is coming undone. Intense emotional energies at work (tornados), upheaval (earthquakes).

None of this exists in my life. And I don't think it's any sort of global premonition. What is it? Things to come in my personal life?

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posted October 20, 2004 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Omigosh... I did a double take. Is that Ra's name there?
Yep.
He needs help?
Oh I love that.
I don't want to sully the sacredness by even pretending I can travel the same channels.. *I'm not worthy , I'm not worthy* But then Hero worship never was pretty, so I will raise myself up and .......... Try.

What was the feeling of the dream? It has stayed with you, it was intense... while you were searching for things for survival, did you find the things you were looking for? Was it a wild goose chase? Was there closure? Was it manic or calm? Were friends or family with you? What was the tone, and did you know/were you confident that you would survive?

I would say that your "world" is coming undone. Intense emotional energies at work (tornados), upheaval (earthquakes)
*By the way, that was your quote, but it was good, so I shot it back to you.

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Sheaa Olein
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posted October 20, 2004 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
What pixie said, she's good (aswell as baaad)

Ra, I guess the feeling of the dream is imperitive - did it feel realistic? I guess you may have thought through all this already, but did it feel precognitive?

I mean, I've had a couple of pretty wild dreams which feel futuristic.. like the one of me in a supermarket saving people with a gun strapped to my leg *rolls eyes* but I got shot in it & the pain was memorable for a dream!

I also had a series of dreams in one place for a week once - same place, different things happened each night - futuristic, clean, white, space-ship like.. and that seemed realistic without particular thoughts, smells or purpose.

So did you remember your thoughts as this was happening? Were there any smells, or physical touch rememberence?

I have no idea what I'll reply if you said yes to one of them yet - but it's an interesting experience

So it basically could come down to personal life perspective, another world or group of people you know well, or precognitive? Hmmm.. peace for your next night of sleep!

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posted October 20, 2004 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpbaby     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Ra,
You're dream kind of popped out at me because I've had similar dreams recently. One was involving a huge hurricane and everything was swept up and destroyed. Then there was another one with a horrifying Tornado that happened on a clear and beautiful day...

Like you, I would normally think these type of dreams signify that one feels that "their" world is coming undone. But pertaining to your dream, I think the disasters are metaphoric, for not your personal world in upheaval... but the actual World we live in.

I feel like its a significant indicator of the "Collective Unconscious" at work. The World isn't in a very peaceful condition right now. There is a lot chaos, but for many of us it's not happening at our front door. I think many people pick up on the vibes of fear and sadness, and are not aware. The feelings may be be conscious or subconscious, but since many of us don't have to face such horrors on a daily basis, we can't find the source of where these feelings are coming from. I think the media has a lot to do with it though. I can always find something on the news or in the paper that makes me feel like crying.

So you are experiencing strong emotional energy, in these dreams, but can't identify them in your daily life because they are your concerns for humanity and the world at large.
I hope this helped you!

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posted October 20, 2004 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Ra,

Your "perspective from space" in the dream, suggests to me that you are having a subconscious yearning of an unfulfilled boyhood dream, of becoming an astronaut. This could also explain any cowboy dreams you might have. ....And my ballerina dreams...... hmmm....anyway...


j/k I'm being silly.

Seriously, my first thoughts on your dream echoed the others. I wonder what your feelings and emotions were in the dream.

Like scorpbaby, I also got the feeling you could be tapping into the "Collective Unconscious".

I had a vivid dream awhile back, where I was way out there in outerspace looking down at the earth. It was so far away, the earth looked about the size of a dime. I was floating around the top of a brick tower with a large clock on each the side of it, that was coming from earth. A verrrry long tower. The clarity of the dream makes it so awesome. I really felt like I was out there, amongst the stars. Some might argue I still am.

I am curious to hear more about how you felt in the dream. I think that might help out with interpreting it. I'll think more on this and let you know what I come up with.

Peace.
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posted October 20, 2004 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
Hello, Ra. I certainly hope it was not a premonition.

I sense that perhaps your perspective in the dream suggests that you are in a position in your waking life to observe others very directly without becoming involved personally. You can see the things that come close to their beings and causes them confusion (spinning) and you watch them unravel.
The fact that it was the Earth would lead me to think it is most often women you observe, or perhaps people that are trying to become more attuned with their Souls.
Searching for people and gathering them and things for survival ... perhaps you feel that part of your purpose in life or at this moment is to seek out people whom you can help, bring them together (either within themselves or externally through seeking help from others), and help them to move through difficult experiences. The large tornados could represent primarily concerns of a mental state such as mental/logical confusion or depression, etc, while the great earthquakes could represents more materialistic concerns such as financial circumstances and jobs, etc.
It seems to be a very humanitarian dream and shows that you are a caring person and very concerned about people in general. Do you perhaps sometimes feel overwhelmed with your desire to help those who seek you out or those who you see as being able to benefit from what you can offer?


I don't really know what you do for a living, but at least here at LindaLand you do care very much for us. I hope I've offered some insight.

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posted October 21, 2004 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Suzume     Edit/Delete Message
Ra,

This brings me to think of lindaland.

Your view of space is like your view as a moderator of this part of the site. You feel as if things are falling away for some reason? Are you feeling out of control in your place as a moderator? Or do you have doubts about your abilities.

The tornados and other disasters could either symbolise people who's dreams you are interpretting or your own sub-conciouse fears and doubts.

Searching for people and objects for survival remind me of looking for signs in dreams.

Are you thinking to much about other people and not thinking about how this pressure is affecting you?

just an opinion. goodluck Ra

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Randall
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posted October 21, 2004 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I just get the impression that you need to relax more.

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Desert Sun
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posted October 21, 2004 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desert Sun     Edit/Delete Message
Ra, Your prints are part of my soul.

The space in your soul created from energies you have shared with those whose life path has intertwined with yours opened a past. The probability of more than one past is immense. The way to peace from this turbulence is thru knowledge, of where you have been or perhaps will be...they, being one in the same. You may return to where you will be knowing that others will follow and precede. It seems that not too far in the past you steadied my steps and calmed my uncertainties.

Ra your friends words were sent to comfort. Words...powerful energies showing respect from those who you have along their journey shown guidance. Souls that will never travel alone because of wisdom you have shared.

That day you felt it, energies stronger than the force of nature. You have seen the results before the action. What a fortunate ability, to see what guides. You have lived the future and know the path. You, unclear, I think not. It is possible an established past could create an uncertainty in the future. If it is your feet to choose a path and one turbulence has overtaken, choose the path your strengths permit. Ultimately, you are the one in control of this dream. You are still one in the same, you are and always have searched for others to protect. You are a leader Ra who truly gives every ounce of energy to those around you.

Where you are may peace be.
Sun

My soul can find no staircase to heaven unless it be through earth's loveliness.
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Ra
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posted October 21, 2004 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I was not at all prepared for these responses! I am amazed with every post, and dumbfounded by the collective.

I think you guys asked every possible relevant question, and the thoughts, feelings, and ideas you all came up with are simply wonderful. I am actually a bit overwhelmed by all of the insight. I want to answer each post as best I can without being redundant, and I'll do so as soon as possible.

Thank you all for your help so far.

Now, Desert Sun, how do you know these things? Some of those things you speak of and hint at, I have spoken to no-one, and none know. Who are you.

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Sheaa Olein
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posted October 21, 2004 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Ra,

I've never seen you act redundant. I believe the gals & guys that have seen you frequent the forum understand you cannot do everything at once!

Have you had any similar dreams to this since?

Look forward to reading when you're ready,

Sheaa

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Sheaa Olein
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posted October 21, 2004 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome Desert Sun,

You have intriguing insight I notice this is your first post made here in Astral Realms. Do you have a particuar interest in dreams?

Dreams have always facinated me; there's not one night in which I don't recall dreaming.

Sheaa

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posted October 21, 2004 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Ra, has there been a shift in "movement"? Could "intense emotional energies" mask intense Spiritual energies? As above, so below

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posted October 21, 2004 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Ahhhhh Juni.

So wise.

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posted October 21, 2004 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome, DS!

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Ra
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posted October 22, 2004 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Juniperb, you may be onto something. Thank you for that profound thought.

Ms. Pixie, yes, the feelings in the dream - they are always important. However, there were no real feelings. There was a sense of urgency at some points, and once there was concern that someone I was after might lag too far behind the group (felt like a family member or very close person). I don't recall actually finding anything, but we were. Our efforts were loosely organized, as if done in a hurry, but purposeful, direct, and producing results - not a wild goose chase. No closure. The group was a mix of friends, family, and others. The tone, urgent.

**Making me think ... maybe my lack of feeling had to do with my perspective. Viewing the Earth, I just was, just an observer, but I did feel a mild twinge of discomfort when the Earth spun apart. In the rest of the dream I was in the first person, a participant in the dream seeing through my own eyes ... but I was also observing, simultaneously. In fact, now I can see that I can remember each scene of the dream either as a participant, or an observer. Interesting.

Sheaa ~~ precognitive? Maybe on a personal level, don't know for sure. I am beginning to think this is occurring now, and has been.

"I have no idea what I'll reply if you said yes to one of them yet"

scorpbaby ~~ much to think about with your insight. Thanks! Makes a great deal of sense.

26T ~~ But seriously, can't wait to hear your thoughts.

Eleanore ~~ youe are truly perceptive, and intuitive. Everything you said is true, and to your question, yes. And this thought from you is absolutely superb, "The large tornados could represent primarily concerns of a mental state such as mental/logical confusion or depression, etc, while the great earthquakes could represents more materialistic concerns such as financial circumstances and jobs, etc". I would have never thought of it that way ... these concerns are not with me in the present, but the symbology is compelling.

Suzume ~~ yet another wonderful perspective. "Are you thinking to much about other people and not thinking about how this pressure is affecting you?" Could be.

Randall ~~ A kernel of truth in that as well. According to those around me, if I relaxed any more, I'd be in a coma. But mentally, perhaps.

Just for everyone's information, I found out the identity of my mystery guest, **Desert Sun** ... I'm embarassed to say that I know this wonderful woman in the flesh, and did not recognize her.

But, Desert Sun, now that I know who you are, I understand why you know things. In fact, I understand a lot more things now. When I get a chance, tomorrow, I intend to write more to you. I want to write you here instead of e-mail because I don't want my significant other to be concerned in any way.

You are more than what I imagined, and I am intrigued.

Walk in Peace

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posted October 22, 2004 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Ra, you are very kind.

In regards to the tornados and earthquakes part, I hope I didn't seem to suggest that those were your concerns. You don't strike me as one to be overly materially concerned or mentally confused/depressed at all.
From your perspective in the dream I assumed that you were perhaps observing those symbols in the lives of those around you or in the world at large.
I hope I didn't misunderstand your post in regards to that, but I just have this thing about ... I guess, about clarifying myself if I feel I've not been clear.

How odd. I just noticed that. "... forest for the trees," lol.


I thought the answer might be "yes". You remind me of Edgar Cayce sometimes.

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posted October 22, 2004 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Eleanore, you are very clear.

Cayce is one of my heroes, so of course I am flattered. I think it's the language. Maybe my subconscious borrowed that Cayce style because I like it so much. Now, if I could just get it to borrow some of that Cayce Connection! That was one very talented, very good man.

Desert Sun, there is so much I want to say, so much that can be said, that I do not know where to begin. Traveling life alone ... are you kidding? Yes, I know about it.

Anyone here know about traveling alone on the Path? Suzume? Paras, how about you, any idea what that is all about? Pixie? Amber? Randall? Eleanore?

We know about it. There are many different reasons for it, and expressions of it, on the surface - but at the root, the aloneness is the same. I am reminded of the song "The Piano Man" ... (paraphrased) "We share in a drink that's called loneliness, but it's better than drinking alone ... " I would substitute 'loneliness' for 'aloneness'. Now, my life is very full, and I am not lonely, and my wife brings me great comfort (God bless her ), but there is still that part of me which walks alone. It must be that way. I don't mean to make light of your statement or of this issue, I just want you to know that I know, that we know.

You said, "I will return to keeping the feelings to myself." Please do not do that. I can handle it. Remember a few weeks ago when I told you that you sometimes make me "nervous"? I think you understand that this is not an apprehensive type of nervous, it is nervous energy, a natural response to the depth to which you were/are penetrating my being. I knew you were sensitive, but I had no idea just how much, and I apologize for that. In this respect, you have lifted me. What I felt in you was limited by my own perception. I could only "see" as much in you as I could "see" in myself ... and so now I am humbled at what I do perceive, you humble me ... because you are "higher", you have lifted me up.

I have to consciously remain open in order to feel, you have to consciously remain closed to not feel. I opened myself to you, to feel, as I do with many ... but I am not usually entered by the other through the opening ... this is why the nervous energy. You can see me. And this opens a whole can of worms! But I am not afraid. This is all for a reason.

While we talked, face to face, it seemed that much of this was new to you, your deeply written words betray your innocence!

I am not sure whether to hug you, spank you, or bow at your feet.

There is much more I want to say, perhaps need to say - I feel like I could go on for pages (but I will spare you) - however, Ben is here and we have a date with the Creepy Crawler Bug Maker.

Desert Sun, don't back away.

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posted October 22, 2004 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
"I am not sure whether to hug you, spank you, or bow at your feet."
ooooooooh.. to be the receiver of those words.

The "aloneness". Is it a reserved part that everyone has?
I was speaking to one of my friends the other day. He is splitting up with his live-in gal, and has literally never been alone. *He is nearing fifty, if he is not yet.. I honestly don't know... He is frankly scared of it..... Being 'lonely' as he put it. He doesn't want to be a 'hermit.'
He wants me *a woman* to go get him things for the house...new furniture, new linens.. plates,etc.. everything he needs to 'start up'. Says he doesn't have a 'personal imprint to make'.. whatever I want for him. Keep in mind, I am not his partner, I am his friend,although he has expressed otherwise, that isn't a comfortable place.... I am telling him.. "Lonely? There is a big difference in being lonely, than alone. I told him I love being alone.. I never feel full when with people, I feel sort of drained... if it is an intimate gathering, I can feel them so much that I feel almost overwhelmed and have left many a gathering at the end of the day or early, being sad. Frenetic/kinetic energy is another thing... I love the vibrations of being amoung people with a common purpose.... but I neeed to recharge alone.. I require it. I prefer it. I feel I have always reserved a part of me for only me. No matter how giving, how loving, how everything, I am at a basic level reserved, and I keep it safe.
It is nice to be felt or understood at that private level. My husband and I share many things.. but I have never shared that part with him.. with anyone.
I refuse to shop for my friend... I said after years of using it because i is there, it will be healing to choose for yourself. This man is a CEO!!!! Yet he leaves (left) all household decisions to the women in his life. I am gonna' drag him kicking and scxreaming, and make him choose something I see he is drawn to. I know it will be cathartic and make it feel real.. whereas if I just say 'thanks for the opportunity to become a personal shopper! And go wild, well.. what will have changed? He won't be making his stamp on aloneness... he will be lonely.
He needs things that make him feel like him.
Good thing he knows me......
I will find it if it kills him!!!!!
Anyway. Alone... from me.

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posted October 22, 2004 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Ra, No one ever needs to travel their Path alone. There are Friends among you

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posted October 22, 2004 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Ra, if memory serves, you're a Libra too, yes?

I think what Randall said may have hit the nail on the head.

Just because a Libra appears to be relaxed on the outside... in no way means his/her brain is doing the same thing. Often, it's doing just the opposite of the body... when the body appears to be in lazy mode, that is. The Libra brain is rarely still

I think everyone here offered something wonderful. All these ladies sure Love the ba-je-sus out of you ... I'm begining to same way.

Desert Sun, Welcome to the board I look forward to reading more from you.

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posted October 22, 2004 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
I understand the being alone part. It's not quite the same as being lonely. I almost never feel lonely ... and if I do it's usually in a crowd.
I have a loving husband, a loving family, and more than a fair share of loving and supporting, amazing friends. They are always with me, if not physically, then in my heart and mind.
Yet I am alone on the Path. It is a path I walk alone, even if there are others in my life on a similar path. I can point out my way to others and guide them if they ask, and vice versa, but our ways will always be different.
We are all crossing the same river, but on individual bridges. My bridge can only lead me from myself to myS-elf ... from me, to I. Yet, my bridge cannot lead anyone else to their own S-elf.
What happens on the other side of the river? Once yourS-elf, at long last, again ... then unity with your other S-elf, at long last, again ...

Sudden Light

I have been here before,
But when or how I cannot tell:
I know the grass beyond the door,
The sweet keen smell,
The sighing sound, the lights around the shore.

You have been mine before,--
How long ago I may not know:
But just when at that swallow's soar
Your neck turn'd so,
Some veil did fall,--I knew it all of yore.

Has this been thus before?
And shall not thus time's eddying flight
Still with our lives our love restore
In death's despite,
And day and night yield one delight once more?

-Dante Gabriel Rosetti

Very Marie Corelli, and such, I know.

Oh, one more thing ... it's not just your style, Ra, it's your innate and altruistic empathy. And yes, Cayce was wonderfully good and talented.

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posted October 22, 2004 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Eleanore,

You're so awesome! A truly special soul.

I'm so glad you came back around

BTW, my grandma (I call her Sassy) is named Eleanore. We were always very close.

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posted October 22, 2004 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
Did I hear someone say Rossetti?

Ahh, yes, Eleanore. Of course.

A most interesting dream, Mr Ra. I will not be so bold as to attempt to decipher (I lack that skill) but I would imagine that a dream such as that, a dream that has obviously made a deep impression on you, contains a personal message of great consequence.

I don't often contribute here but I make it a point to read your posts, Ra. Very interested to see how you play this one out.

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posted October 23, 2004 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for orchidspirit     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome Desert Sun

Ra many of my thoughts echo Desert Sun and Juni.

I feel this is a very personal internal dream and not at all precognitive of future global events.

I also feel compelled for some reason to say that you know this and that perhaps your just seeking verification of what it is that you know.

Love

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