posted January 09, 2005 10:30 PM         

I cant recall alot of the dream. It seems we were camping somewhere. Most of my closest friends and loved ones were there. My closest girlfriend, Sandi was there. My boyfriend, my mother, my sister, my ex b/f (whos still a good friend of mine and my current b/f) and my g-father.
I walked out of a small log cabin that sat upon a hill and overlooked a stream surrounded by forest. As i walked out I saw everyone sitting and standing around a picnic table. My g-father was sitting at the end with one seat available next to him. As soon as I saw him sitting there I began to cry. I walked over to him and went to sit closely to him. When he said to me ... "Dont sit so close to me THEY will know im here." So I scooted over about a foot and sat down. I cried, I could feel and see the tears welting up in my eyes. I cant recall alot of the conversation, but I do recall saying to him, "Its been so long since i've seen you last, I never realy knew you, although I wish i had. I cant believe your here" It was very full of emotion. Then he in turn said to me "Angela, I know its been a while, a long while, you look so grown up and beautiful, look at yourself. You should know .... we can always meet here" and i sobbed.
For whatever reason the dream skipped ahead, I was walking with my boyfriend thru a parking lot (still in the woods) and saw a strangly looking motorhome which was the size of a 4x4 jeep but had the comforts of a motorhome. I asked him whos that was and he said Eli (which is my ex - thats the only recall of him in the dream although I never saw him in the dream) Again, the dream skipped ahead and I was in the bathroom of the log cabin shaving my armpits ( ) and my girlfriend came i nand told me not to throw the blade out because she will make her own and reuse the shaver. I agreed and finished up. I then told her I must get back outside to converse further with my g-father as I had some questions for him. When I got outside he was gone. I asked others where he had gone and they looked at me with disbelief. My mother then said to me I must have been daydreaming because my g-father has been dead for years. I couldnt believe it, I had just talked with him. I looked around to other for rearrusance that he had been there, but they began shaking their head in a NO sort of way. I began to cry again. At that point I awoke and I was actually crying. My face was soaked as was my pillow.
The first thing I thought of in the waking state was him and his words to me which stand out so profoundly still. What could he have meant when he said "Dont sit so close to me THEY will know im here" ... the other was "We can always meet here" was he trying to tell me that our dream are reality and that in my dreams I will know him again??? ... the rest of the dream may not be important in this but I thought I would add it. The part I am and have been contemplting over is his words ... was he trying to tell me something. Did I actually converse with him (i believe I did) Last night when I went to sleep he was all i could think about, I prayed to meet him again in my dreams. But when I awoke this morning I couldnt remember any dream (which has been that way for a while now - not remembering-as u can tell this dream is pretty choppy on what was remembered- all the skips) if anyone has any insight on his words to me id appreciate it.

posted January 10, 2005 12:24 AM         

It seems your grandfather also loved you as much and his words are in your memory.

You said you were 10-12. Thats quite old.t
Children remember events even when they are 7 up.

I do not know about the message "don't touch me".

What struck me about the message was it reminded me of Jesus saying to Mary Magdalene (Gospel of John) "Do not cling to me. I haven't ascended to my father yet."

I wonder if John is really describing Mary seeing Jesus physically, just after his resurrection.

Or could it be that Mary, when she was outside the tomb, would have dozed off. And met Jesus in a dream.

What happens when you dream? Are you really awake(merged in the cosmic ocean) when you sleep? And asleep when you are really awake?

Its quite fascinating to think about the correlation with your story.

Well my 2 cents.

posted January 10, 2005 06:08 PM         

What happens when you dream, are you really awake(merged in the cosmic ocean) when you sleep and asleep when you are really awake
This is something Ive always wondered myself. Some believe it while others dont. I personally do not know. Maybe our dreams are happening in a different realm, dimension. And it really is happening to us, me and u. ????? the powers of the mind boggles me .....

Thats an interesting quote from Jesus ... ive gotta think more on that one.

thanks again IAT!

posted January 18, 2005 04:22 AM         

I can't really explain it, but the dream seems to reflect his presence symbolically, as well as literally. For instance, your ex's jeep/motorhome suggests a transitional (motorhome) past relationship (ex) or a past relationship that has transitioned, that somehow exists unconsciously (in the woods) ... see what I mean? Kind of describes where your grandfather is in relation to you. Other symbols are similar. I am not sure what your grandfather meant by "Dont sit so close to me THEY will know im here", but I think you are right about "We can always meet here" ... indeed, I think he was telling you that he is a reality within your dreams, that dreams are a place which you can know him again. I feel that this dream was about the experience, the feeling of meeting/knowing him, more than about the symbology. I, too, believe you actually conversed with him, and perhaps will again.

I hope my boys are fortunate enough to at least know my own father this way.

posted January 18, 2005 07:20 PM         

you are wondeful person Ra and if you teach and guide your boys as you have all hear at LL im sure they will have some experiences.

thanks so much.