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fayte.m
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posted April 20, 2005 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
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posted April 20, 2005 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Fayte

Thanks for that great advice. Our minds do become cluttered quickly and easily in today's society, and there is no doubt that this can muddy the subconscious channels, making wisdom difficult to manifest through our dreams. So I totally agree with you about clearing the clutter. But I would say that environment is only part of the 'problem', and that the true obstacles, the real mud, comes from the way in which we act and react to environmental stimuli ... it is our personalities, our thought processes, the way we think, and the way we react/experience that dictates the clarity of the channel. I mean, if someone's 'problem' is that they worry about everything, it won't make any difference whether that person is watching television or sitting by a stream. They will go on saying, "it would be awful to fall in that stream, look at the sharp rocks, and who knows what creature is waiting to get you, and I'll bet this stream is terrible when it rains, and I don't see any fish ... " It's in their mind, not the environment. However, the environment certainly catalyzes the issue, and reducing negative input is always a plus.

So I guess what I am saying is that "today's garbage" in our dreams is a direct reflection of how we act/react/think/feel in relation to, whatever ... and that this can point us directly to the heart of the matter, the deeper meanings, the deeper places within us. "Housekeeping" is a great way to find things, you know? I do not believe there is anything random about it, and that we can use it, like a tool, to gain insight ... perhaps even more quickly than without the "clutter", ironically.

The whole thing can be rather circuitous.

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posted April 20, 2005 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Ra!!!!!!!!!!! ...I agree on your points of veiw, and mine. It all depends on a person's psychological make-up, their experiences and conditioning. What works for me may or may not work for others. But if one notices that a dream has elements of a movie or other outside stimuli, they should perhaps ask themselves "was this housekeeping, synaptic drift? Or did the outside stimuli 'trigger' some part of myself, something from this life or a past one? Yes, it can be quite circuitous. Sorry I called you Randall...I had e-mailed him earlier and it was still on my mind! OOOPS!
speaking of outside influences, brain farts and such! Forgive me!
If I should ever do that again, you may call me "FRED".

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posted April 20, 2005 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message

I picked up "The Prophet" again, and I found this passage, just a few minuts ago, and thought it fit here. ( don't you LOVE that?)

But what of those to whom life is not an ocean, and man made laws are not sand towers,
But to whom life is a rock, and the law a chisel with which they would carve it in their own likeness?
What of the cripple who hates dancers?...........

What shall I say of these save that they too stand in the sunlight, but with their backs to the sun?
They see only their shadows, and their shadows are their laws.
And what is the sun to them but a caster of shadows?

I paraphrased and skipped some things, as I am a lazy typist today.
But it seemed to work, in this circumstance.
We are what we see.
There is value in that, and also in opening up to others wise views.

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posted April 20, 2005 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message

siiiiiiiinging in the rain,,, just siiiiiiiinging in the raaiin!! What a gloooooorious feeeeeeling, I'm haaaaaapy again!!!

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posted April 20, 2005 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Irish Eyes     Edit/Delete Message
Let me ask a question...what about profetic dreams....when you dream something and then the whole bloody things happens in your waking life...what is that?

I experiece this at least once a month and it is always accurate...it never has to do with me directly though...always about others...never about my family or close friends...usually about a situation that goes well for the person in the dream...sometimes it is bad news...

Sorry to play Devil's Advocate!

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posted April 21, 2005 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
That's a great quote Pixie.

Irish, I don't know what that is all about. It just is. There are any number of theories, but who can really say. Most of the time those types of dreams, for me (not nearly as often as you!), really seem to have no purpose, other than I dreamed it. I mean, it will just be everyday stuff, no particular event. Who knows. Maybe it's just some kind of psychic slippage, reminding us of the world behind the world.

I get the feeling someone will clarify this for us.

... but seriously, I wish someone would!

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posted April 21, 2005 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Great answer Ra!
Pixelpixie? What are you singing about? Just wondered.
Irish Eyes! I get those too, and visions. My Grandmother said I had the gift of warnings. Some call people who do that, "Doom Seers". I prefer "Warner", which is my birth name. But what drives me crazy is who do I tell? Will it make any difference? I was laying on my bed meditating the day before the earthquake and tsunami hit Indonesia. I told my husband that I felt a deep triple roller (a large quake soon to come on the other side of the world)and I knew I would have dreams later. Which I did! It felt like in some capacity I was there! It was so real! I woke up sweat soaking wet and woke my husband and said, Oh My God! Why did I have to be right?! I was having such a backlash from that! When I read the paper, it was exactly where and what I precogged in a vision, then saw in a dream I have thousands of these kind of true stories. But to give warning, who do I tell, and what if it's only afterwards? Then I find bodies before the authorities, but when I have called them they either laugh or become suspicious. I'll read about someone being reported missing, then I dream of it. I am often right on the mark with the situation, in detail. Like when I was riding in a car down the interstate, dozing. Then right in my face a man appeared, saying "help me! I don't know how to get home!'" I woke up and screamed, "stop! We need to go back! There is a dead guy in the deep grass by the overpass! No one wanted to stop. I dreampt about him, I believe he was actually speaking to me in dream. He told me everything, his name the state he was from(not my state) and who murdered him and transported his body across state lines and threw him in the weeds. The news reports over the next few weeks were in sync with what I had seen in my dreams. This is the way I have always been I don't know if my stories help clarify anything or not. Thanks for letting me spill. I do get GOOD visions and DREAMS also, that come true. Sometimes it is precog....sometimes I summon for something or a situation, and go into lucid dreaming, and it often happens. I also will "program" my mind before sleep to dream answers.

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posted April 21, 2005 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Irish Eyes     Edit/Delete Message
Ra-
I hope you are right...we need clarity on this!

faye.m-
Thank you for spilling!
It is wonderful to hear your story...I too have had these things happen to me. The day before the tsunami I was on edge for no reason, when I tried to sleep I heard waves crashing and people screaming. I didn't sleep that night.
Sometimes these dreams become very disturbing...I cannot even meditate for all the noise in my head.

I went to a meditation workshop tonight with a hindi friend of mine and am learning new ways of meditation. For the first time in several weeks I was able to achieve full silence....it was wonderful! Sorry, I just had to tell someone about this experience!

Love to you all,
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posted April 22, 2005 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Irish Eyes...You are welcome, and thank you!
I only learned how to scrim my grids a few years ago. Before that when a vision would come in, it could be dangerous to me physically: like while driving! Whenever that happened while driving, I'd get a vision and when I'd come out of it I was sometimes lost, having gone on some kind of automatic pilot for a time. It made me afraid to drive. Then there were many times where I would trance out and give readings spontaneously to anyone I should bump or touched. It didn't matter if it was a stranger or a public place! I often either could not stop, or did not know I was doing it. People(if someone was with me at the time, who I knew) would tell me what I said/did later. Ever see the movie, "The Minority Report"? Like that girl did to the lady, when she said to her; "don't go home! he knows!". It weirded people out! My son even got beaten up when he was little because the parents of the ones who beat him were people who were scared of me in school because of what I do, and told their kids that I was a witch! Then on the subject of dreams, not visions etc., I tried to warn people, tried to help, but they laughed at me and would either blame me and say I caused it(yeah, right! If I could do that, I'd be rich!) or say, it was just a coincidence. I now shield myself in public, but I still must avoid physical skin contact.
After being around people I must de-gauss, clear myself of any tags they may have left on me that could trigger a vision or dream. I have been touched by tags that are joyous, all the way to the ones that almost cause me to faint or vomit. I have learned how to stay in control, at least to some degree, but as you said, it can't be turned off. It's what"who I am...and I don't want to turn it off, just have a little more awareness of the enviroment I am in at the time. Oh how I understand you about the quake and tsusami!!!!It was like being there!!! The screams, the roar etc., very hard to bear!
Thank You again, its nice to have a chance to talk about this to one who can relate to what I mean, by their own experiences.

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posted April 23, 2005 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Irish Eyes     Edit/Delete Message
faye-

I am sitting here almost in tears...this is the first time I have ever met anyone with the same "issues" that I have.
I too have been called a witch and once I left the "bible belt" I didn't feel like I had to watch my back all of the time...I am somewhat of a hermit...I have a close circle of friends that try their best to understand. If it were not for my best friend I think I would have gone nuts by now. She is very good at listening to me and not judging or asking pressing questions that I do not want to answer just yet.
I think that the hardest thing for those around me to understand is that it is random and when it comes to them or myself there is nothing that comes through unless it is so cryptic that it takes an event to make the vision make sense, years later....
I would love more insight from you on how to deal with this "gift". I have found that it has gotten stronger every year and I do not want to stop.
I too have had the problem with telling complete strangers things about themselves and able to control myself. I experience the trance state that you talk about when this happens. I wonder if those people still talk about there "run in" with me? I think that some of them want to baptize me in the nearest puddle!
Do you find that you often have to shower to get the tags off of you? I have come in contact with some that have made me vomit...I also lost my sight from one, my eyes burned for days afterward. (Thank God that didn't last very long!)

Again, it is a pleasure to meet another with this gift.

Love to you,
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posted April 23, 2005 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Irish Eyes! Thank You! I have been feeling somewhat disappointed with some of the replies(or lack of)... I have sincerely tried to share and help others with my posts, but I sense that I'm being laughed at by some. I like to believe that people are good and I try to be helpful. But my willingness to be compassionate and helpful is often not taken seriously. I had even considered not posting anymore, but for every thinly veiled ridicule, there comes a sweet word, or nice sounding reply, or someone who appears to really be asking for answers or help. I am very much a hermit. I love to commune with others, but I am often perhaps too much of a hermit. But you can understand that from the sound of it, and WHY it is so for us sensitives. I feel so much compassion/love for all humankind, even the ones who have been and are unkind to me. I can see that is where they are on their spiritual paths, but it still pains me when they are mean or flippant, because they can't help it. (and not just at me personally, but when they do it to others too! Why do people enjoy that? I just don't get it! It's just where their heads and hearts are at that stage, I know that!!!...... but it still makes me sad for them. How they must be hurting, the turmoil unleased within them and manifesting in their lives. I believe all negative emotion others project is based in fear in all it's myriad forms.... I purposely do not grid people online. I felt that I should try to connect in the "regular" people way. I'm new at this online communication and too trusting tn the caring about others department. Perhaps that approach was not wise after all.... But I don't think it's ethical to scan people deeply without giving them a chance. Irish, Forgive me for going on and on. I think I need to eat something. Back asap. Thank you again soooo very much!
OOOPS! PS.!
was supposed to be added to the later reply!
Oh! Yes, shower,and more. Blindness! Oh boy!
Been There too...many many times! I am 50. It does get "clearer"(in my experience).Stronger? Hmmmmmmmm.... I have always been this way. If you haven't read some of my posts concerning psychic experiences I've had, I'll find them so you can read them, and so I don't have to repeat them...

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posted April 23, 2005 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Irish Eyes     Edit/Delete Message
Oh fayte, I know what you mean! Right after I posted last I got a call from someone whom I have known for years and yet she still doesn't get it! She wants to blame the world for her problems and thinks that she is "enlightened". She calls me weekly for advice that she will never take and then tell me that she is just misunderstood. I guess that you can lead a horse to water...
Anyway, she wants me to "see" into her future and tell her that her boyfriend is thinking of her and is coming back to her. I cannot do this. I know that he may, there is always a chance but she will not listen and keeps calling me asking me to "do something".

When it comes to what people think about us sensitives...I do believe that they react out of fear. I mean, who REALLY wants to know the truth? I don't say anything to anyone until they ask, I may say something to them and then say "lucky guess". After a few times of this I get a real sense of how open they are to it. I have close friends that have no clue. I like them the way they are. There is something freeing in the knowledge that that person doesn't know and therefore likes you for who you are not what you are.
It is a fine balancing act. There are days when I haven't slept well in many nights and I feel on edge and I wish that I could pass the gift on to someone else. Other days I am glad that I have the gift, those days are the ones that I feel that I have helped someone.

Don't give up, you know that if you try to stop it, it only gets worse. Let's face it the people that make unkind remarks and laugh are the same people the would have Jesus locked up in a Mental Hospital for delusions of grandur if he walked the earth today!

Love to you,
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posted April 24, 2005 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Irish, Thank you! I too sometimes feel the weight of the responsibilty of "The Gift". It
is very often difficult to outright impossible, really impossible to try and get others to understand. But how can they without a point of reference based on being this way? Yes, people who know me, ask for me to tell them, everything will go the way they want things to go. I am quite adamant about reminding them that I will NOT lie to them, and once I open, to receive an answer to their query, I CANNOT and will NOT be able to censor or filter the answer. Fortunately those closest to me do respect this, and they still ask. Most people don't want the important messages, the warnings or answers that counter what they want to believe or hear. I also have people ask for advice, by using the gift, but they persist in not following it. It makes me so frustrated when they return and are upset with ME-- because I had warned them and they didn't believe me, and went and did exacty what I warned them not to do.! So how can that be my fault?! Geez...they asked, received my usual pre-warning that I can't filter what comes through. I have also tried to explain to people that I don't usually give anyone the specifics on seeing good things coming, cause they could screw it up and the good thing won't happen. I have given messages etc., when asked, that the person took as unalterable fact and could have gotten killed. Examples: one person asked if they'd die before they were 60. I said, " oh no, I see you with white hair! This fool then started going without sleep, and driving 80/90mph., thinking they were beyond getting killed, all because I said I saw them with white hair!!! They actually came back and yelled at me for giving a false reading!! Again, Geeez! I calmed them down and said, you've taken my readings wrong before, what on Earth were you being stupid and reckless for? I had to explain(AGAIN) that they can screw up the outcome of a good reading by going out of their way to do stupid things. Often those snap quick ones are the most easy for someone to mess up because it is based on who they are at the time of the question. I have become rather guarded about using the gift to answer people's questions about the future. It is so hard sometimes, especially when you know what is going to happen and you either are not asked, or you know they won't listen, or they'll blame you if it's bad or say it was JUST a Coincidence if good. I have three people who do want what I give. Only one who I can really be who I am and reveal fully what I do. I would have trouble keeping my self in this world if not for that person. I Know what it's like to have no one who KNOWS. It is a gift with much resposibility involved in using it.
Ok, I'm ranting again! I came to "lindaland"
even though I'd never done this before, because I felt there was a reason. I'm a lousy typest, and don't feel comfortable with going out on the internet....but something drew me here...there IS a reason...I feel it. OK...as for Jesus/Yeshua: People would not recognize him.
And they would think him nuts or try to kill him, because he wouldn't fit their dogmatic ideal. Don't get me started on that subject....I get rather wound up!
Ok...Your turn!
Love and Much blessings to you Irish!
PS. I edited the 8:32pm. post instead of this one...so see the OOOPS;PS There!

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posted April 24, 2005 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Can I come in and play?
fayte and Irish, thank you both so much for your candor and your courage! I've never (to my knowledge) met or known anyone with The Sight. How frustrating and painful it must be at times to carry the burden of this gift. Kinda makes me feel as dull as a rock amongst such sensitives! But I feel I'm where I'm supposed to be anyway, we each have our own path and our own lessons. fayte, you sure piqued my curiosity when you wrote about your discarnate friends in another thread, now I'm beginning to understand.
Have either of you read Sylvia Browne? I went to one of her lectures once, and something happened to me there, to put me on a truer path. Her 3-volume set "Journey of the Soul" is a fixture in my library. But here in Lindaland I really feel some breeze under my wings -- you all are a spiritual well that I am allowed to drink from, and I am so grateful!

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posted April 24, 2005 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Of course you may! Maybe you are a "control" like my beloved. If not for him, much of my trancing would not be documented. I cannot document myself during deep trance states. I go deep like Cayce, or R.A.Monroe. --Back asap!

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fayte-
Thank you for your honesty, people can be a little strange and take things the wrong way...there is at least one in every crowd. I guess that I am lucky when it comes to my friends that know...very rarely do I have one ask me to tell them the truth....ususally they want to know it a grandparent will pass soon or if they will have to say good-bye to someone they love soon.
It has been getting stronger for me cause I have finally stopped fighting it.

Azalaksh-
Why sure you can play ! I haven't read any Sylvia Brown books...I have been "winging" this thing. When I get the chance I will pick those up and begin.

Well, I will be back later, I have Mommy duties that have to be attended to.

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Bad neck day....hard to type...later people!!!

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Oh Az, how could you think of yourself as "dull as a rock", you are for me, one of the, if not the most intuitive people on this forum - why oh why would you have a crystal ball in your presence if you didnt have the "gift" and hey dont you have Mercury in Scorp and remember what I said about my healer friend and Mr Libra, all have the same sun and mercury positions as you AND all of you are amazing psychics, just look at yourself girl, you are GIFTED and have helped me SO much, Its so nice in a way that you are not aware of it, makes it sweeter somehow - aahhh lovely libra modesty - god bless and love to you xxxxx

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Wow. I really love reading about your experiences, you two!

I'm surprised to hear about the reactions you get from people when they ASK you for your kindness. I know that if I ever met anyone with true gifts, like you, I would definitely NOT take that advice for granted. It's sad how people who can "see" are very rare in our society and not really allowed to assimilate within the community as easily as they should. Many past civilizations and a few today are aware enough to appreciate "see-ers" but for some reason, this is a dark and misunderstood area of ours. Hopefully, the Aquarian Age will bring to light some important aspects of life that we've been neglecting as a people. Thank you for sharing your experiences!

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posted April 25, 2005 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
zoso! Thank you for sharing that with us. People are often terrified of our kind. I don't understand it either, their fear. The movies and myths make us out to be something demonic, which true sensitives and seers are not!
Some movies do us at least a little justice, but then people think those are the fantasy!
Give them spooky spooky ooogum boogums things that go bump in the night, curses, demons and evil crones...they'll buy that! But give them something a little closer to the truth and they don't believe it, or don't understand, that a true seer can only use the gift for good.
These movies do pretty good at what it's really like: "Minority Report", "The Gift" and "Deja Vu". I'll try to come up with some more positive examples. Bless You zoso!

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posted April 26, 2005 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Irish Eyes     Edit/Delete Message
zoso-

I agree with fayte...what people see in films is usually their only experiences...this is why they ask the questions that they do. It is human nature to be curious and fearful of what we do not know...even I get a little freaked out by some of the things I see. For me it is like a puzzle...I have all the pieces and just have to put it together, other times it is clearer and doesn't take as much work.

As for the other civilzations....you are right...one day things will return to the way they were...they always do.

fayte-
How is the neck? I do hope that you are feeling better. Do you watch the NBC show Medium? I identify with the way she dreams in the show...a few things are "smoke and mirrrors" but I find that it is a good watch.

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posted April 26, 2005 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Irish Eyes! The neck is feeling better. Thanks for asking!
I don't fear the so called unknown realms. I find that it is the terrible things the living do that worries me. You may find this strange.....I DO NOT WATCH TV! I very seldom
listen to the radio, it gathers dust on it because it sits unused for so long. I have people I tell my precogs to and they call me when it shows up in the news. I haven't watched tv in almost a decade.Prior to that, I didn't watch much, So for my entire life up to now, I've avoided Television for about 40 years in total. I do watch movies I buy or rent. But I do not do much of that either. With how I am, I do not want distractions or anything to influence or taint what messages etc. that come through me. I know people who watch that show, "The Medium"., they all say that is so much like me. Haven't seen it. My son said that the little kid in the "Sixth Sense" is me, and that my husband and I are the real Mulder and Scully,"X-Files". My life is quite full and interesting enough, I can't imagine tv having anything to offer that is worth exposing myself to the subliminals.

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posted April 26, 2005 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Irish Eyes     Edit/Delete Message
fayte-
I know what you mean! I watch tv only to see that show...I didn't even know about it until my best friend told me about...
I went to school for broadcasting (video production) and I found it to be VERY noisy! I can hear all of the equipment...even the sound of things just being plugged in is sometimes more than me or my daughter can take....
Movies are good, I watch a lot of them to keep up with what I did in school...my son loves when I explain how everything is done. I enjoy low budget films and art films the most.
I am sorry about your neck, I fell down a flight of stairs while pregnant with my first child, fractured my tailbone and wrist and had a concussion. I had major lower lumbar surgery done 6 years ago so I could walk again. I thank God everyday for that doctor!

I have got to run...working!

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