posted May 14, 2005 02:58 AM         

You are obviously very intelligent, and you have a real gift for relating to people ... and people like you ...
I guess what I am trying to say is, you needn't be anything but who you are. The people here actually understand that. We appreciate genuineness.

Now I am going to be blunt, and I hope you understand that this is so that there will be no misunderstandings, and so that perhaps we can get directly to point, very quickly. There is something about you that I like Fayte, something deep within ... but I do not believe you. I hope I am wrong, and if I am, please forgive me, but I do not believe much of what you have written in this post, or what you have insinuated about your abilities and activities. I feel a great emptiness, darkness, and it is yours.

Please, prove me wrong ... I would very much like to be.

posted May 14, 2005 10:35 AM         

I have nothing to prove.
I know who and what I am.

I had written as a reply to this the longest post I have yet to make. But then I re-read it and realized that it was not anyone else's business. I just wanted to see if the dream, that even I found so unusual, struck others as such, and could be looked at by others here, and I would possibly get some valid feedback, some verification etc.
I did get that, and even more so in your last reply.........
"Now I know I'm on the right track."

I do know who I am.
I do know what I am.
I am happy with myself.
I have nothing to prove.

You ARE wrong. And I do forgive you. I was hoping you were kindred, and would understand, and not resort to psychobabble.

Blessings and clarity and peace be yours.

Something I would like you to ponder:
You said;Quotes:

"I hope I am wrong, and if I am, please forgive me,"

"Please, prove me wrong ... I would very much like to be."

And this:Quote:

"There is something about you that I like Fayte, something deep within ... but I do not believe you."

My questions are:

Is it that you do not believe me or can not? There is a very big differnce here.

Next...You want me to forgive you, but why would you need that from me?
However I do so forgive you.

And next..you hope you are wrong.

Why would you hope that? After all I am probably in your opinion, just some delusional as you have indicated. By hoping you are wrong...well what does that imply dear Ra?
If you hope you are wrong...then see it with new eyes...The truth is out there and truth is truth.

As to your saying:
Quote:
but I also feel other things, many of which were confirmed by the minor changes you made in that post.

I said before I added/clarified & or fixed typos.
Quote:
Thank you! Also please re-read my post/reply, as I went over it and added/clarified it a bit and fixed typos. When you have the time, if you wish. Again my most sincere thanks!

posted May 14, 2005 02:50 PM         

Jesus said, "let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the all."
Jesus said, "Recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from you will become plain to you. For there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."
From "The Gospel of Thomas"

posted May 14, 2005 04:39 PM         

So let's continue, and perhaps we can salvage something, and learn something, from eachother. That's what I'm here for, to learn.

There is no need to be disappointed, just be patient. If I am wrong, you will help me to see it, and I've no problem admitting it.

You said ...
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And next..you hope you are wrong.

Why would you hope that? After all I am probably in your opinion, just some delusional as you have indicated. By hoping you are wrong...well what does that imply dear Ra?
If you hope you are wrong...then see it with new eyes...The truth is out there and truth is truth.
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When I am wrong I have learned something. If I am wrong here, now, then I will have learned a lesson in discernment, and in ego-projection. I will have also made the aquaintance with a very patient and wise individual. For these reasons, I hope to be wrong.

As a Libra, the truth is what I am after. If you have it, then so be it, so just be patient with me while I try to catch up with it, which I will. If truth has been represented here, then you already know where my heart is.

No, you need not prove yourself. That was a very poor choice of words. That being said, however, it does seem that you go to great lengths to do just that ... not directly mind you, but most certainly through insinuation, perhaps unconsciously. This is one of the things that bothers me, that I am not sure how to take. Is it intentional, or unconscious? Either way, I do not perceive you as being malicious in any sense, and I think you're heart is in the right place, so that puts me in a mental pickle.

You ARE wrong. And I do forgive you. I was hoping you were kindred, and would understand, and not resort to psychobabble.

We are kindred, are we not? And it is possible that I may yet understand, but "psychobabble"? I had to go back and re-read my post ... I don't see any "psychobabble". In fact, what I wrote was/is based on feeling, on subtle perception, you know? I specifically avoided too much analysis, because my perceptions are based on feeling, and not "fact" (another reason for my inability to decide what is really going on here, self doubt). Soooo, I find it interesting that you use that word. To me, your response says a lot, and the feeling behind it serves only to catalyze my original perceptions.

Is it that you do not believe me or can not? There is a very big differnce here.

It is not a matter of "can not". Beyond that, I've yet to determine.

Next...You want me to forgive you, but why would you need that from me?
However I do so forgive you.

Thank you. Especially if I am "right".

So, there are still things which you have written, and things which I am feeling, that run counter to the way you have presented yourself. On the other hand, I can still feel that 'something' special about you, and I don't want to loose it.

Maybe I would be better off dropping the "feelings" and continuing with the "psychobabble", which I am more comfortable with. Seriously.

By the way, I love the Gospel of Thomas, and that is a very good quote from it.

... as you can see, I am very confused!

posted May 15, 2005 10:10 AM         

I saw something that may be a typo, or is it a Freudian slip?
You said:
"On the other hand, I can still feel that 'something' special about you, and I don't want to loose it."

The word you used here, "LOOSE", instead of lose....Typo or other?

posted May 17, 2005 04:19 AM         

But who knows, maybe it was a Freudian slip, and I am subconsciously afraid to 'loose' your special 'something'.

I'll get back to this string as soon as I can.

posted May 17, 2005 07:33 PM         

Ya-whaaaa????
Yay, l'anglais c'est difficile.

posted May 18, 2005 09:58 AM         

*which part?*

posted May 18, 2005 10:52 AM         

You said:
"like 'If you could FEEL what I mean....."
Yes, the feeling can say more than the words! Words fail us often! I am sure Ra would agree with me on that factor!

Then you said:
"Sometimes it would be at a disadvantage, but I guess things wouldn't have to be broken down and justified if every nuance were felt.. the good and the bad that runs through us all."
Yes! It would most likely allow us to realize that we are all not so very different. Kinda like that saying; "if you cut me, do I not bleed?" We all have feelings. We are all connected.

And then you said:
It would just be understood.. some kind of trueness
God!!!!! Wouldn't it be wonderful to not have to second guess or be second guessed? I run into that alot! I often find my heart and soul practically screaming at times! I am a person for who lying is not comfortable and is difficult to do, so long ago I gave it up. It is just easier to tell the truth, to lay ones cards out on the table, or stay out of the game, rather than to lie. But people are so used to others lying that I often get pooh-poohed! Yeah, in retrospect, telepathy would be very good. We all have skeletons and "things" in our closets, but telepathy would even out the playing field of communication! And so goes again your line;Quote:
It would just be understood.. some kind of trueness

posted May 18, 2005 11:17 AM         

just cuz I was talking about nose goblins in the other thread.... so you know.
I don't want to take myself too seriously.