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fayte.m
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posted May 09, 2005 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message

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Should not have posted it here. Thanks to all who "tried" to interpret it.

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posted May 09, 2005 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
OMFG!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!
You descibed that sooo well! I thought I was there! (You know I'm kidding about the old lady part, right?)
I started laughing so hard, I'm tearing up!
If the rabbit still had his foot, I say it was a good dream!
Can't wait for the intrepretation of this one.

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posted May 09, 2005 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
OK. I'll be serious here for a minute.
Just from getting to know you over the last few days, here is what I sense.
A gift or hidden talent is being threatened.
The talant is one of healing and love, perhaps through "magic." The animals (or humans) are a threat to the evolution of that talent. They are also changing appearences and may not be trusted. But you are persistant in the face of danger. Looks like you are fighting them off and as you know, love and peace will win. You were protecting a treasure, but don't know what it is. White, purity?

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posted May 11, 2005 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
I'm tellin' ya, it's the next level of enlightenment! It's a comin' for ya! I was just about to bump this up too!

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posted May 12, 2005 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hello fayte

I've not meant to ignore this string, it's just that my thoughts/feelings are a bit different, and I don't really want to rain on the parade. Besides, I could be way off. If what is being said by Philbird feels right, then go with that.

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posted May 12, 2005 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Ohhhhh, nooooo RA. Just because I had a brain fart doesn't mean it's accurate! The parade doesn't start until Ra has spoken!

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posted May 12, 2005 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird ... and it is not accurate just because I say it, either.

Okay, I'm not really sure I can interpret this dream in the normal sense. There's certainly no lack of symbols, but they just seem too many and too obvious. I keep feeling like there is something peculiar about it, something just doesn't feel right.

On the surface, it seems to be a rather enlightening, powerful dream, but something just won't let me go there. Instead, I feel pain, confusion, and desperation. There is something almost schitzophrenic about the changing animals, culminating in the "hysterical and crazed" symbol of the hyena, and the "strange caravan ... and mythical creatures" scene feels almost illusory or delusional. Now, I'm not saying that you, Fayte, are delusional or schitzophrenic, it just feels like the nature of the symbology, a description of the symbols and how they are presented.

The softest way for me to view this dream is as compensatory. To me, it feels like perhaps the light and over-confidence symbolized in the dream is compensation for a lack of these in waking life. Perhaps there is a part of you that is in need of validation, for attention, a need to be needed. Perhaps, behind the delightful appearance of who we know as Fayte, there lies a soul who is having difficulty accepting some aspect of reality, a soul in deep conflict.

I don't know you, Fayte, so it is difficult for me to say with any certainty from where my perspective truly originates ... it is entirely possible that all of what I said is some sort of twisted reflection of my own projections, I just can't quite put a finger on it.

So, there is that. Any thoughts?

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posted May 12, 2005 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for trying

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posted May 12, 2005 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone else?

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posted May 12, 2005 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Fayte, did you get my e mail? It's a coincodence how I used one of Ra's words!
Don't let it scare you!

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posted May 12, 2005 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Ra! Since you are not aware of the psychic work I do every day, have all my life...It would be hard to decipher this dream.( as you said:Quote: "Okay, I'm not really sure I can interpret this dream in the normal sense.")
Here are my comments back to your statements. You said,Quote:
"but they just seem too many and too obvious. I keep feeling like there is something peculiar about it, something just doesn't feel right."

Yes, from a point of view of not knowing what I do psychically, that is a valid observation. It does coroborate what I thought, but it is right, it is just not usual for most people who are not involved in the things I am. It should feel Exactly that way to you. Thank You!!!
Next Quote:

"On the surface, it seems to be a rather enlightening, powerful dream, but something just won't let me go there."

Again, thank you! I am on the right track!!!
And yes...I know what that something is..and you are not supposed to go there! That is exactly the response I was hoping to get on that! Again you do confirm that I am doing things as I am meant to. Thank You!

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"Instead, I feel pain, confusion, and desperation."

This is NOT, only, my pain! But yes it is very accurate! I shall elaborate as I continue this reply. Thank YOU!

Next Quote:

"The softest way for me to view this dream is as compensatory. To me, it feels like perhaps the light and over-confidence symbolized in the dream is compensation for a lack of these in waking life."

That part I have to say no to. In fact it is Exactly the opposite! No trouble in that arena!

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"Perhaps there is a part of you that is in need of validation"

In some ways yes..validation I get in droves..or verification, confirmation etc....The trouble comes into play, only because of what other people think and say, about what I believe in and do. I often scare people because I see things about them, I predict things that come true...etc., and for those who do not believe in communication with anything other than human incarnates, and scoff at communication with discarnates or non human entities....or belief in reincarnation... Well from these naysayers and or terrified ones, I get ridiculed and called crazy.

Next..A need...Quote:

"...for attention, a need to be needed."

Those are aspects that are being well fulfilled...no problem there.
It is only the ridicule from naysayers....and terrified ones that cause/have caused problems. I have in the past been attacked, assaulted and my life threatened by what I call rabid Christians. These people have physically hurt me, and even their children have severely beaten my son when he was little, because of what they know I do. In my younger days I would trance out in public, I often without even realizing it, would give spontaneous readings, warnings to people, even perfect strangers. Until I met my husband I could usually not stop myself, it was something that simply just happened when I was "triggered" by coming into physical contact or making unexpected but prolonged eye to eye contact with people. I have since learned to sheild, thanks to the help of my husband. Have you ever seen the movie, "Minority Report" and also "The Gift", and "The Sixth Sense"....That is what I am like...I dont have a movie analogy off the top of my head to give as an example of other things relevant to me...but I'll think of some and get back to you. Its too much to explain.

Ok..Next..Quote:

"Perhaps, behind the delightful appearance of who we know as Fayte, there lies a soul who is having difficulty accepting some aspect of reality"

Yes, the intolerance and hatred that people display, especially when it involves religion, race, etc.etc., and I mean that on a planet wide scale...not just my own encounters with such intolerance, fear and hate!
I would give myself freely, if it would erase such vileness from the human condition...because despite that, I feel intense compassion, yes even for those so full of fear and hate! I feel such love and compassion for the human race, but it brings me much pain to see them suffering as they move through their lives. I do what I can, and much of it in the psychic etc. arena, or connected to it.

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"a soul in deep conflict"

Yes...because I am not allowed to warn or interfere in many cases, and I often have to keep my mouth shut and not give someone a warning, unless they ask for one....and that sometimes drives me crazy. Do you have any idea what is is like when you look at someone and you can "see" what is going to happen, but you don't dare say it? And then it does, and it was terrible, and you were right? Things like that do conflict within me. But I usually do not give warnings, at least not unless asked, because in the past I was accused of being a witch and causing the event to happen! If I could cause such things, I would not have been assaulted many times, my son not beaten, more than once... and I would have figured out how to win the lottery or something cool like that.

So you did help me look at this from some other angles.
Thank you very much Ra!!!!! Much blessings and much love to you!

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posted May 12, 2005 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
That helps me to understand more, but there is still something.

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posted May 12, 2005 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Ra!
Thank you! Also please re-read my post/reply, as I went over it and added/clarified it a bit and fixed typos. When you have the time, if you wish. Again my most sincere thanks!
You said, Quote:

"That helps me to understand more, but there is still something."


Yes..... do not worry...


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posted May 12, 2005 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird...That word does not scare me. Nothing in your e-mail did. Intolerance and unfounded fear of others, and lack of compassion and understanding, that is the things that scare me! I believe we must as a regular part of each our lives, as individuals, endeavor to see ourselves in another's shoes, to picture the world through the eyes of others and accept as it is said those things we cannot change, and the wisdom to know the difference

Putting myself in anothers shoes is easy for me, it is the knowing when to help and when not to that pains me to my very core...for much is their karmic lot..and not my place to intervene. I just wish I could fix it all. Paradise..Utopia, the human race has at its disposal all the elements to make it so, but they do not as a whole, yet see that it is so.
With all that goes through my head and heart, the word you said holds no terror or anamosity to me. I understand.
Blessings and love to you and yours "M".

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posted May 12, 2005 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Ra, very interesting analasys.
Fayte, very interesting recap!

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posted May 12, 2005 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Ra....I think I should tell you another thing that I found odd about the classic symbology of the dream, at least how most interpret them.
What seemed odd from my way of thinking, was the two "WHITE" small creatures, the dove and the rabbit. You see, that is not the way I consider white to represent...purity...light...or even nessarily as a representation of "goodness".
Innocence perhaps, or the vulnerable and helpless ones. But then why would such as they, appear to be protecting the treasure, that first appeared to me as garbage cans. Like someone had diguised or tried to hide what they really were. And were those white animals protecting the treasure, or seeking refuge upon it, clinging to it? For me colors are colors, except in the aura, I do not usually ascribe a positive or negative conotation to colors. I like black as equally as white! I like dark as much as light, as day to night, as young to old, and on and on and so forth. I generally make no judgemental distinctions in that matter.
Thanks again Ra! I am just not used to having so much symbology as I said before in dreams concerning myself.

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posted May 12, 2005 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird!

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posted May 12, 2005 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
I feel so superficial! Of course I blurt out the first thing that comes to mind, without thinking! I need a time out!

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posted May 12, 2005 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird! Oh my no! You did a very good interpretation! I'm just not a "normal" person. What you said would probably be exactly right for a normal person, a person not involved with the things I am. You did just fine! You should do it more often. Alot of people wouldn't even know where to begin with an interp, let alone come up with one!
You do have a talent for it...so keep on "blurting" and especially just right off the tip of your brain, because often our first impressions are the most accurate. Ever notice that to be true? I have. Not always, or for details, but the quick intuitive response can be on the mark or close1

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But that's just it, Philbird, and you are exactly right, the dream was superficial, too superficial. It begged for a "superficial", or "traditional" interpretation, which you gave. And that is precisely what doesn't feel right, to me.

Fayte, you have said a great deal to fortify your position, and much of it makes sense, but that 'something' which keeps itching me has not been scratched. I don't know what that means, but another 'something' tells me that maybe well enough should be left alone, for now. Maybe someday I will be able to understand. Peace to you.

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posted May 13, 2005 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Ra!
Thank you so muchly for taking so much time and effort to ponder and reply! I would however sincerely like to know what the "itch you can not scratch" feels like to you....no matter how strange, odd, or even bizare it appears to you, or untraditional.
If you would rather not give such a reply here, but wish to do so......you may e-mail me. Please do not feel obligated however to do so.....you have done so very much already!!!!!! Much Blessings and Love upon you Ra!

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