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steelrose
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posted June 07, 2006 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
I just had a strange nightmare… I was locked up with my family in a dark old-fashioned small flat. Some of my dearest members of my family were there. It all was happening during the night. And there we were all terrified.

The devil was outside. The Beast was in the form of a child, about 7 or 8 years old. I think it was a girl. Her diabolical sweet voice was saying that evil was coming… To kill us.

I was holding my baby cousin. She is currently 15 but in my dream she was 2 years old. I held her to protect her as if I was her guardian. And I kept close to my mother. My aunt, uncle and other cousins were there…

The devil girl and her demons started banging on the door. Really hard. I heard their voices howling, their sinister laughter. Glass started getting bashed. They were going to get in the main room (the living room I believe) where we were very soon… So I shouted the others to get in the other room. ‘Where is the key?’. My aunt got it and locked us in. The door was made of plywood… It wouldn’t resist very long. There were no more doors… Only a window and the flat was high up…

They got in the contiguous room. I could sense them. We remained very close around a round table, holding our breaths…

The sky started to clear very slowly. Dawn was coming. We just waited. And they left… They would come back… We had to flee from there. From that cursed place. From that haunted building…

We got out that room slowly. Still afraid. The stair landing outside were the elevators were was deserted. Very dark. We used the stairs. A metal winding stair case… We silently climbed up. I still was carrying my little cousin. We found a neighbour in the way up. The old lady asked where we all were going so early in the morning. We lied, saying we were going to the countryside and we were trying to avoid traffic jams.

I felt slow and heavy. Tired. I could have waken up at that point but I wanted to see a happy ending to all that. And I waited for the dream to finish…

We got to the roof terrace… To the street!!! (???) The sky was completely clear by then. My uncle was there waiting with a big car for us to flee. We got all in the car. And he pulled out fast. We were safe.

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Ra
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posted June 07, 2006 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hello steelrose

What an awful dream. I'll give it closer attention as soon as I can, but one question does come immediately to mind ... do you think it is possible that the dream could be a distorted reflection of some childhood experience? Like maybe when you were about two?

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Yang
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posted June 07, 2006 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
Have you recently watched the film The Omen 666 ( either the new one or the old one?)
Perhaps, if you did, it might be playing subconsciously on your mind?

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steelrose
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posted June 07, 2006 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Ra!!! WOW that was a quick response! Thanks!

I don’t remember any traumatic experience around the age of 2… And even less relating to this dream… I don’t know…

Yang, regarding your question, no… The premiere was yesterday here in Spain… I never watch that kind of movies, they give me the creeps. But I remember seeing the advertising poster a week ago and thinking the boy's eyes were very disturbing. Anyway, in my dream, the devil was a girl… And I never got to see her…

Have you noticed it’s all about female energy? Evil is feminine, I am a young woman protecting a little girl and looking for comfort in an older woman (my mother). A woman holds the key for safety (my aunt). A old lady is the spy, the wise witch ready to give us away (the neighbour)…

Men only move around in the dream. They don’t play a decisive part on it. Only my uncle, waiting to drive us away…

Could it be my psyque? All those people could actually be all myself?

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posted June 07, 2006 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
The reason why I asked about the movie, was because the new version was released yesterday...it was on my mind. So I thought it may have something to do with your dream.

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Cardinalgal
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posted June 08, 2006 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cardinalgal     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Steelrose

I think you might have something there with the feminine energy observation but I just wanted to return to the reincarnation aspect of the dream as you used the word in your title.

I think this dream could be a mixture of past life memory and sub-conscious symbolism.

The scenario reminded me very strongly of Nazi raids on Jewish houses. The neighbour who might have given you away - people were encouraged to inform on their neighbours.

I found it particularly interesting that you had to 'ascend' to escape them - it's a very symbolic image, climbing the spiral to escape from the evil in the basement and could easily be one of 3 things (or perhaps all 3?) Perhaps it was a metaphor for transcending the body after your past life ended? Maybe it was a real event that you were recalling? Or perhaps it was your own depths that you were escaping from; your own demons?

Don't know whether anything makes sense for you there but it was a fascinating dream and I think one that deserves further examination.

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posted June 08, 2006 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cardinalgal     Edit/Delete Message
I've just read your dream account again and had some more thoughts.

"The Beast was in the form of a child, about 7 or 8 years old. I think it was a girl. Her diabolical sweet voice was saying that evil was coming… To kill us."

Evil is always more frightening somehow if it comes in a supposedly innocent package; a child behaving in this way is infinitely more terrifying than an adult. And I suppose a little girl (sugar and spice and all things nice) is somehow even more of an abhorration. (Spelling?! )

I think you really are on to something re the feminine essence in your dream. It's almost like your psyche is running the film of your own personal 'long dark night of the Soul,' showing you yourself at different levels of spiritual development perhaps, and letting you see how you've triumphed and progressed/ascended to the Dawn?

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steelrose
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posted June 08, 2006 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
WOW, Cardinal... Those insights were amazing... I didn’t think of Nazi Germany… but it could be. I imagine a scene like that being perfectly coherent with what I felt… It could be a past life memory… I have had others (or what they felt past recalls while dreaming) before.

And the ascending idea is great… My own demons??? Yes, maybe…

I truly loved your view on it. Thanks!!!

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steelrose
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posted June 09, 2006 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
Cardinal, I just saw your second post… I must have not refreshed before posting my reply…

Yes, you are right. I’ve been fighting my own demons for so long now. I also believe that evil child at the other side of the door was somehow part of me. Maybe the things I fear the most and I always hid from… I imagined her in the dream (I couldn’t see her) very similar to what I looked like at that age… Blond bobbed haircut.

Emotionally, my life has been harsh. I’m starting to believe I did most of it to myself… Is that what it means? Evil is inside? But now I think I’m ready to set myself free… When the room became silent, I knew we would be fine… Hope was so strong… That’s why I waited to wake up…

What about my little cousin? What does she represent? I had to hold her close to feel all right… She was so unaware of the danger, so innocent and sweet… At the same time so vulnerable… I was more worried for her than for myself… I had to protect her…

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Ra
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posted June 09, 2006 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Great thoughts Cardinalgal. The past life possibility didn't really occur to me.

Steelrose, by your last comments, I think you are figuring this out quickly, and what you said corresponds very well to the notes I made.

It looks to me as though there may be negative aspects of yourself which you have denied or suppressed (devil girl), aspects from your past in which there is unfinished emotional business (haunted), and these are beginning (dawn) to rise back into your conscious awareness (climbing spiral staircase). The 'rising' of this material is also symbolized by getting to the roof terrace, which curiously is also at the street, because the activity of this material has been on an unconscious level, hence the "very dark" landing, and it is approaching conscious awareness - street level. It is arising out of your depths.

I was going to originally ask if this stikes a chord with you in some way, but we can see that you have come to many of the same ideas.

¿Qué piensa usted?


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steelrose
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posted June 09, 2006 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, Ra, I think that side was hidden and very repressed. I didn’t want to see it or I couldn’t. I think I still don’t like myself very much…

That little witch used to come out when I felt rejected or unloved. I can be, I have been, really mean. Awful. It even surprised me. It has always been something I didn’t control much… I even decided not to have children until I was happy and emotionally contented. Because I didn’t want my babies to have such a mother.

Who is my little cousin in the dream? Who am I trying to protect? Myself again?

¡Gracias!

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Ra
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posted June 09, 2006 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
De nada.

Yes, your little cousin is an aspect of yourself. Do you have issues with your own mother?

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Cardinalgal
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posted June 09, 2006 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cardinalgal     Edit/Delete Message
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I even decided not to have children until I was happy and emotionally contented. Because I didn’t want my babies to have such a mother.

Who is my little cousin in the dream? Who am I trying to protect? Myself again?


I'm starting to think that the baby could be the baby you're now starting to feel ready to have? You didn't feel able to protect anyone other than yourself before by the sound of things, but now it seems you are starting to feel more happy and emotionally content as you put it. Perhaps it could be you protecting your own innocence and fragility from the evils of the world and the evils you felt you had within you?

Just an idea I really wish you luck with everything steelrose, and congratulations on 'ascending to the roof terrace!'

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steelrose
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posted June 12, 2006 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, Ra, I have issues with my own mother… Not a simple issue though… If you feel like it, I spoke about it in this other thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009234.html

Cardinal, funnily enough I have been dreaming about having a baby girl recently. This very weekend… And here there is another example: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/001393.html

Interesting…

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Ra
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posted June 13, 2006 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message

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