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PhoenixFire
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posted September 27, 2011 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I woke up this morning from a very sad dream. In my dream, I was aware that the present me was viewing into a past life as a Jewish woman in hiding with her family during the holocaust. I vividly recall seeing my own face as it was in that time, which is very odd as I've never been able to see it during dreams.

My husband and I were in hiding in a hidden room, after our 2 older children were shot by guards as they climbed over some sort of fence attempting to find food. I don't remember who hid us or how, do recall the SS searching the house for hidden rooms and not finding us.

Our youngest child had been injured with a broken leg, at some point of confrontation with the police before all of this. I remember his recovery being slow, and having to convince my husband to attempt and pass under a different (non Jewish) identity to try and get him some medical help.

I was distressed with a feeling od deja vu, like we need to get him help as this already happened and we didn't do so which brought him to pass away. We got him help, passing as a Johan and Hans and brought him back in hiding with us. My last thought before awakening, was who sad all of this horror was on many people especially children and how other children did not survive as our youngest did.

The dream was very vivid and I'm really emotional about it, because I've never experienced anything like that before. I do highly empathize with victims of the holocaust, but have no Eastern or Jewish ancestry as I did in the dream.

I was emotionally sad before going to sleep, thinking about old wounds of the heart/soul and praying to heal them. I don't know if this would have anything to do with it, or also that I miscarried last week and my husband and I have been at odds with each other ever since?


Thank you

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GypseeWind
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posted September 30, 2011 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So very sorry about your miscarriage.
I have been there, it's heartbreaking.

Two things:
Firstly, the current astro is suggesting very profound dreams in the works, and people will be having epiphanies courtesy of Pluto. If you don't follow astrology, please ignore that part.

Second thing is that one of our other members who has studied much on past life recall says that if you see your face in your 'dream' then you were not that person. Just as we look 'out of' our eyes every day, we do not see ourselves from a facial point of view,
it would be similar in a recall/remembrance.
So, if you were there, perhaps you were another party IN the dream, not the woman.

I get a strong urge to tell you that may be you were the man, and the woman was your current spouse.
Rethink about this dream, and also think about your relationship and the events of late.
Perhaps there is something to learn which will help heal the rough spot for the two of you?
Often times so much is perception and all it takes is to shift ours to learn/heal many things.
Good luck to you.

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PhoenixFire
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posted October 04, 2011 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for your kindness and insightful response. The dream haunted me for days, it felt so very real. I do believe in astrology, and currently Saturn is conjunct my natal Pluto. The miscarriage has been really tough, and I hope things will feel better soon.

My being the husband in dream does make sense, as I've always felt as if my spouse and I have a role reversal. He is more nurturing/feminine in many ways where I am more dominant/masculine. We have been communicating about the loss better, and our bond is starting to heal. This dream really did have a profound effect one me...I'm going to start keeping a dream journal from now on.

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LEXX
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posted October 07, 2011 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GypseeWind
As usual a very good interpretation by you!

Were you referring to my research and experience with past lives?
You are correct in that just like in our lives now, one does not see their own face unless looking in a mirror or other reflective surface;
or a portrait or photo of themselves.
Gender switching from lifetime to lifetime is also very common.

PhoenixFire
My condolences on your miscarriage.
Having lost 26+ pregnancies I totally understand.
These threads might be of comfort to you;
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000171.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000170.html

Yes, I agree with GypseeWind;
I feel too that you were the husband in that lifetime and your spouse now was your wife.

Any idea why your miscarriage has caused you and your husband to be at odds with each other? And how far along was the pregnancy before you miscarried?


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~I remember, therefore I am immortal~LEXX
~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Никола Тесла
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GypseeWind
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posted October 08, 2011 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep I was talking about Y-O-U Dear lexx, You have taught us ALL many things.

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LEXX
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posted October 08, 2011 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GypseeWind
I have learned much from you also!
Thank you dearheart!

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~I remember, therefore I am immortal~LEXX
~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Никола Тесла
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PhoenixFire
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posted October 10, 2011 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lex,


I was about six weeks when the miscarriage occurred. It was really sad, thank you for your empathy. The friction arose because the pregnancy wasn't planned, and I had mixed feelings about it while my husband was overjoyed.

We currently have 1 child together who will turn 2 years in December, and our 2 older children from my previous marriage are 12 & 14 years. It was really tough to start mothering a young child all over again, when my toddler was born after a 10 year gap between him and my 12 year old.

I'm also 32 now, and it was much different/difficult going through pregnancy and postpartum compared to when I was 20. It is nice to imagine having a playmate sibling for my toddler, but it is also a relief to consider our family being complete.

My husband loves children very much, and is a wonderful father. He took the loss much harder than I did, and became upset about my mixed feelings and considerations of our family being complete. We have begun making peace with this, and are now taking things a day at a time-living in the now and seeing what the future may bring.

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LEXX
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posted October 10, 2011 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
Hi Lex,


I was about six weeks when the miscarriage occurred. It was really sad, thank you for your empathy. The friction arose because the pregnancy wasn't planned, and I had mixed feelings about it while my husband was overjoyed.


It is never easy no matter how early on it happens.
Even unplanned ones can leave one feeling divided even though greatly relieved.
However it is far worse emotionally and physically after the quickening.
Most of my 26+ were 12 to 20 weeks along.
A few blessedly under 12 weeks along.
Some singles, some twins.
I have one child, a 30 year old adult son now.
My last confirmed lost pregnancy was when I was age 50 and another possibly at age 51.
quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixFire:

We currently have 1 child together who will turn 2 years in December, and our 2 older children from my previous marriage are 12 & 14 years. It was really tough to start mothering a young child all over again, when my toddler was born after a 10 year gap between him and my 12 year old.


The more the gap betwixt children and the older you are, yes these can make things more difficult. Also hopefully your husband can see that eventually. And another child with one already in those wild 2s. Yikers!
quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixFire:

I'm also 32 now, and it was much different/difficult going through pregnancy and postpartum compared to when I was 20. It is nice to imagine having a playmate sibling for my toddler, but it is also a relief to consider our family being complete.

I can totally relate to all of that.
quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixFire:

My husband loves children very much, and is a wonderful father. He took the loss much harder than I did, and became upset about my mixed feelings and considerations of our family being complete. We have begun making peace with this, and are now taking things a day at a time-living in the now and seeing what the future may bring.

Children must be wanted by both and so many considerations taken into account. You are lucky, having a husband who did care. My ex1 and ex2 did not care or in the case of ex2, he ran to his mommy rather than comfort me each time.
Just take it one day at a time yes.{{{hugs}}}
And if you do not want more children, please take adequate precautions as you could be easily fertile for another 20 years.
I am glad you and your husband are trying to work things out.

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PhoenixFire
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posted October 10, 2011 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Lex your kind words & insight really mean a lot. I am really sorry for your loss, it is really tough/sad.

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Still_Hopeful
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posted October 14, 2011 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG! LEXX
You are the one brave soul!
26+ miscarriages! My heart goes to you.

I also had some miscarriages in my past. And IT BROKE my heart up to point I did not want to get pregnant again.
But by some miracle, I got pregnant in my late 30's and I gave a birth to healthy baby girl and I could not be happier!

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Still_Hopeful
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posted October 14, 2011 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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