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Panthera Leo
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posted January 20, 2016 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a dream last night in which I saw a spirit which looked like a visible swirling gust of air.I was in my primary school assembly hall eating my lunch surround by other people.I was talking to my school janitor and he said something like he couldn't wait to move some artifacts that were being temporarily stored in the school.I think he said they were of African and Egyptian orgin.It doesn't really make sense to me but think I saw something which looked like a pot with a pole or a tree with a little head or skull carved at the top.It It could have also been a pole with a little skull ornament on top.I wonder if it was some sort of totem pole but it didn't look like anything I had seen and it didn't look like a genuine artifact to me.The pole looked a pole of a brush. After that I saw the spirit.I was sittting on the floor and I saw it in the air.I called to and it moved towards me and floated above my head.I thought I could try communicating with it but I am not sure it had a way to talk to me or not.I wonder if did have other ways to communicate though.I know I definitely saw a whitish spirit in a gassy shapeless shifting form that looked like a gust of wind.I wonder what it was?

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posted January 21, 2016 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll be really interested in seeing what some of our resident experts say about this dream of yours.

Lots of interesting symbols.

For me, for today, I'm going to take an approach that is sorta side-wards. Especially since I have an avid interest in the transits and all the 'alchemy magic' going on in the heavens during this period of time?

And, metaphysically, knowing that you had an important figure in your life (Scorpio Grandmother) recently pass? (And I've noticed a kind of ~weird pattern after people pass, where after 30 days ~even 6 weeks after, there's an outpouring made onto the life of beloved-ones-- releases of Gifts. As THEY process and clear their own life on the other side, WE get automatic showers of the Benefits from it?)

And reading about ALL your HARD work Panthera Leo!!, with the us seeing the Successes evident from it. And seeing you applying yourself to constant Healing and wanting those Breakthroughs to happen for your life?

With all these mentioned above....
I look at this dream with an over-arching view... This may be depicting the Success you have achieved for yourself. You've been diligent at working and examining all those elements from your past (even with past-life elements tied in). You are clarifying what's been (and is) going on with you in these times.

I FIRMLY believe that persons who pass into the next realms bring us GIFTS.

You had wondered and wished about visitations from spirit of your Grandmother, Panthera??

I wonder if, in part, this is a wisp of that Visitation for you-- Your higher-spirit acknowledging a sense of YOU there, and her there. Both simultaneously. The wisp-Spirit is your higher-sense and Self, simultaneously with that other-person's communication, AND with confirmation that things are good right now? ... Things DO happen on multi-layers at the same time. It's not confined to just one thing possible.


I wonder too if YOU are 'being rewarded' or that a part of you 'recognizes' (psychologically, emotionally) HOW MUCH progress you have made for yourself in your life right now. (You 'still' can be sorta feeling bad AND have made great progress.) I bet you have graduated...'to the next level' and you are granted the manifesting of some of your Wishes.

You have an awareness (on subconscious level) that you have widened-out your potential (even while feeling limitations). And it is being spiritually rewarded perhaps, and added-to with rewards and Blessings into your Life.

Mercury is retrograde, to meet Pluto again tomorrow ~Jan 22(Friday), then turns forward(direct) on the 25th(Monday) and meets Pluto one more time between Jan 30/31st.

Wealth(Pluto) of inner/outer communications(Mercury)! And Above/Below, astrally.

I hope the Pluto-Mercury effect hasn't caused ME to stir up things in you (when it was just-meant for me?)? But-- for what it's worth--- I offer this message to you, and wish you SOOOO many Blessings!

Fly! ~Fly!... Know that I always mean the very Best towards you.
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((What's your rising sign and degree?
Did you ever post your chart anywhere here, Panthera?... please leave link if you have. I'd be interested in seeing it?))

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posted January 21, 2016 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree mirage29 it will be interesting to hear other opinions on this.It would be really nice if the dream was supposed to be the sort of dream that you think it might be.
If my grandmother could pass some gifts unto me I wonder what she would pass on.

Don't worry mirage29 you haven't caused me any trouble.Even if you did stir something in me it would probably be for my own good if you did.I hope that you will be equally blessed.

My Ascendant is at Libra 26'10

I am sure I have posted my chart somewhere here before so I will search and find the thread and link it

I wish you all the best

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posted January 21, 2016 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 22, 2016 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you soooo much for a copy of your natal chart!
We've got placements in common!!

Jupiter Cancers: you 25+(on my Uranus), mine 27+

Virgo Moons: you 28+ mine 24.56

Your Mars 9+ Taurus, my Venus 12+
Your Venus 7+ Cancer, my Mars 2+

Your P.o.Fortune on my Pallas Athene.
My P.o.Fortune-Pluto Leo on your Mercury.

My NN on your H3 cusp

(Lots more!)

Both have Juno Scorpios. (You're having Juno-return)

My Neptune 25+ Libra to your Asc 26+

The FULL MOON tomorrow is ON your Sun!
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(I've got to go right now... expecting severe weather conditions here in USA, so our power may be spotty over next days. See you next time.....)

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posted January 22, 2016 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The synastry explains a lot.It seems quite magical.Hopefully we can bring each other some good luck.Especially with our Jupiters and our Part of Fortunes being involved in the mix.I supose your Virgo helps me feel like I connect with your emotional energy.Your Neptune conjunct my Ascendant is spooky in a good way.Our Venus and Mars aspects make things seem very sweet and indulgent.Maybe we were meant to communicate with your North Node on my third house cusp.I wonder what will happen with my Juno Return.

The full moon tomorrow should be fun

Look after yourself Mirage 29 may the Archangels watch over you and protect you during the storm
Au Revoir until our next Rendezvous

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posted January 22, 2016 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the dream and will post my opinion tomorrow.


@Panthera Leo: I like you chart with the t-square and mystic rectangle.

The Sabian symbol for this full moon is:
“A man formally dressed stands near trophies he brought back from a hunting expedition.”

@ Good luck with the snow.

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posted January 22, 2016 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I look forward to hearing your thoughts Geminikarat as always.

I wonder if the the full moon tomorrow will bring me some recoginition tomorrow.The sabian symbol almost sounds perfect apart for those poor animals that got shot.

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posted January 22, 2016 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Panthera Leo
It seems to me a mystic dream. Primary school - basic learning. The artifact shows an ancient culture's symbol. Moving out this object may refer to expanding your knowledge. And the spirit you saw, an entity or ghost from the past. It all may be that you are communicating with hidden, ancient knowledge.

By the way, my sun is on 28 cancer, so it conjunct your jupiter and sun in between.And is sxtile your moon. There are also some other configurations, like your neptune conjunct my asc. and your chiron conjunct my venus. Stuff like that.

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posted January 22, 2016 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ayelet

I do like your interpretation.I would be pleased if your thoughts were correct because I do wish to enlighten myself and I like the idea of uncovering hidden accient knowledge.

The synastry we have is also very interesting.
I actually have asteroid Posedion and Imohotep conjunct my Neptune although the conjunction to Imhotep may be a little wide .I have Hatshepsut,Hekate and Proserpina conjunct my Chiron.Ptah is one of the many asteroids conjunct my Moon.These make it more interesting.I shall have to look up more asteroids.

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posted January 23, 2016 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please read it as an additional input:
This dream indicates that the development(=school) of the conscience(=janitor) is receptive(=eat,pole) to purity and clarity(=white).
The color white could also be associated with death.

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posted January 23, 2016 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I Like the sound of your interpretaion Geminikarat.

Thank you Mirage29,Ayelet and Geminikarat for your input

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posted January 23, 2016 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everything's okay here (thanks all for well wishing-- I sooo appreciated it). We don't get the snowfalls at this southern latitude. Rare when we see any snow. We get to see tornados, hurricanes, flooding, and dangerous lightning storms, instead.

I used to live up north where all the snow storms are going on right now. As a child, I recall one blizzard snowstorm where our relatives had to make a tunnel to dig us out of our house (winds had made snow drifts against the house and blocking our doors). That's part of what our east-coast is experiencing right now. I can empathize with them. ... There was another place I lived in the US where I experienced straight-line snow blizzard WITH the phenomenon of lightnings and thunder associated in it.

Humorously?...
Maybe your dream about the swirling white gust of air, prophetically captured our snow blizzard, too?! After all, we DO belong to a Collective consciousness. What happens with one, affects others.... (just ~musing).

Be Well, everyone!

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posted January 23, 2016 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad your safe mirage29 .

Wow I thought the weather was bad in Ireland because it is always raining and miserable but hurricanes and tornadoes that sounds horrible.

I doubt I predicted the storm I am more like Septic Peg than Mystic Meg who appear in this clip lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKvuFiShc7k

You could do me a favour though mirage29 and test your dream theory perhaps you could dream of a sexy santa like this bringing me a nice present LOL if I am lucky it may come true I'm sorry I am so bad sometimes I can't help myself.

I wish you health and happiness


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posted January 24, 2016 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Panthera Leo:
I doubt I predicted the storm I am more like Septic Peg than Mystic Meg who appear in this clip lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKvuFiShc7k

I love that guy!

I wish all of you all the best!

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posted January 24, 2016 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Panthera Leo:
I doubt I predicted the storm I am more like Septic Peg than Mystic Meg who appear in this clip lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKvuFiShc7k

You could do me a favour though mirage29 and test your dream theory perhaps you could dream of a sexy santa like this bringing me a nice present LOL if I am lucky it may come true *Smile* I'm sorry I am so bad sometimes I can't help myself.


Septic Peg??? LOL!!!! I liked her 'snow globe'!

This Sexy Santa is for you??? Well, darn!!! I've been waiting for a couple years on one of those! Be assured, that if he 'exists' and were to ever show up here, I'll send him along to you! *sigh* For right now, I'm ready to throw up my hands, give up hope of EVERYTHING, and retreat back to the Monastery~~ or a Hermitage, or Heaven-itself for that matter!! *~I've had it!!, so Jesus?, just please come and git me!!*

Oh, I'll be sure to leave the forwarding note for so you can have him, just in case!! Don't want to waste someone gorgeous like that?!! LOL!! I Share.

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posted January 24, 2016 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you mirage29 I will also try and dream of a sexy santa for you and anyone else who wants one.

Don't ever give up mirage29.I know the feeling of either wanting to shut off from the world or just wanting to vaccate plannet earth so you aren't alone.Try to remember all the good things about life that make you happy.

Some songs to motivate you

Christina Aguilera Fighter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PstrAfoMKlc

Cher You haven't seen the last of me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVwk3C9TP8c

Shakespears Sister Stay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYu3d_dsc40

Queen The Show Must On http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t99KH0TR-J4

Elton John I'm Still Standing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L05ZBxN9frA

Boney M Somewhere in the world http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O-e2O_LgK4

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posted January 25, 2016 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone told you recently how frickin talented and Compassionate you are??... O yes. {{ }}

Each one of those musical selections were jawdropping in their own way. ...haha even noticed Elton dancing in the 'snow'!!

Don't think I didn't notice!! Your 'subtle' kindness isn't so subtle, and I just wanted you to know that I saw and appreciated that. (I wasn't going to say anything, but sometimes you just have to point out some very-kind things, out-loud!!) *grin*

Your music is out-of-this-world....

With Love, from Santa... ....

(music) Somewhere [There's a place for us] (by Leonard Bernstein; David Garrett, violin) [3:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP40n_p32gU

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posted January 25, 2016 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The violin music was beautiful mirage29

I hope you feel better today

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posted January 25, 2016 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pantheta Leo, I wish I could make something about what you wrote, but I am clueless as regards to asteroids... need to learn it yet.

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posted January 26, 2016 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great thread.

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posted January 26, 2016 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm really glad you liked it, Panthera...

Of course, I want to make sure between us that you understand that there's a playful side to me that loves to come on (or come back at) people who make sexy flirtatious type of passes at me, EVEN when they're not being serious.

And I'm the kind of person who is actually very very shy on the outside and would never actually come up or at a guy to make passes at them....

I guess part of the Beauty of the internet is that we can express our more-hidden sides that we don't have actual-permission to unleash in reality... ~~well, maybe~perhaps? ... LMAO

(music) I Didn't Mean To Turn You On (Robert Palmer, 1987) [3:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGrQTRcxdTo


In transits, you know how you and I have that Venus/Mars double-whammy, plus our shared Moons? ... Well, today (Jan 26) I learned (Rick Levine, astrologer audio podcast) that there is an otherworldly 'septile' BETWEEN Mars and Venus.

Today tMars Scorpio opposes my sexy Venus Taurus H5, which is actually a sexually stimulating aspect?, but then my chaperone (Saturn Scorpio) is there flashing those lights on-and-off on the porch! LOL

For right now, the way things are, I haven't been dating. And, I live with someone who has some kind of disorder~maybe that he can't stand to 'touch' or to be physically-touched by people. *just the way it is*

I have what astrologers call 'a bad chart'-- but that didn't make me a bad person. I established a good set of Values for myself. I always had a good-heart. Stayed ~basically true too~~ with only a couple times of straying. (Hey, you gotta do that?!)

God caused an equal-series of 'miracles' to happen to me, too.

Including some of the most direct POWERFUL transformative lucid sets of dreamscape-experiences and literal ~spooky surreal foreseeing, that CHANGED me, from the inside, forever. (Some people here have read my posts in Divine Diversities forums, and another long thread I keep here at LL.)

It was music, Panthera, & our Scorpio Grandmas who got together to conspire and invite me here to this Astral forum.

There were Eclipses involved with those 'Good Friday'/Easter experiences. At the time of having the dreams, I was in one of the most 'animal'-existing UNspiritual times of my life and existence. (Having and and nursing my babies. Taking care of basic flesh.)

My life has been like a scriptural Book of Job...

Thing is, that I know the 'end' of THAT story is that Job not only got back what was killed-off or stolen from him, but he was given MUCH BETTER and More as a reward in the end.

...And that is what I am expecting, for me. There is nothing Good that He withholds when you love him, humbly, and you Seek with ALL your Heart... for He is a Rewarder of those who Diligently SEEK Him.{scriptures}

(music) I 'Almost' Let Go (Kurt Carr, Christian-gospel) [9:59] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLm9va_4JJc

Thanks for letting me be myself, again ~ LOL

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posted January 26, 2016 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope I didn't offend you Mirage29 I have a horrible habit of using smutty humour if I get an opening.I thought the sexy santa might make you giggle as well as give you, me and everyone a little treat.As for some of the songs I posted I was thinking more about the themes of perservering through hard times rather than break ups in romances.Those songs could be about both themes at the time I couldn't really think of better ones.

I used to be quite shy myself and then well I kinda stained my soul from white to red.
I like the song Addicted to love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcATvu5f9vE

I feel like it describes me very well.My Venus is sextile Mars and opposing Uranus and Neptune so my lovelife is like
a carcrash.My Neptune and Uranus trines add to the chaos.My Venus is conjunct asteroid Phaedra,Pholus,Ninkasi,White Rabbit and Mjolnir and Mars conjuncts Astarte and Altjira. Although from time to time Uranus sometimes cancels everything out and I have my frigid moments.When that happens I would probably give any man who was interested in me frostbite.Sometimes I pity them other tiimes I pity me.Although part of me also thinks my ability to detach is like one of my secret weapons.Part of me still is innocent it's just that I'm not as innocent or niave as I used be.Although my personal experiences haven't exactly been enjoyable as you have probably figured out not a lot of things in my life are as simple they should be.I am beauty and the beast all rolled into one.I do try to be be good although I do have to fight lower energies and parts of myself.

I think other people think I can't differentiate between love and lust but I can.The truth is I can but sometimes I just dive in knowing it could be horrible.Sometimes I just try to ride the waves of chaos the best way I can.Sometimes I feel like it wouldn't matter what I did I would still loose.
This song would probably describe my lower love energies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lho2ejebjbU

I don't feel suicidal.At the moment I just don't really feel happy or sad.At times I am apathetic and sometimes full of rage.I am mostly apathetic or feel neutral about the universe or god or
goddess or he or she or them.I believe they exist and if I they are going to help me they will.I don't hate the universe really but the truth is if even if the fabric of time,matter or reality crumbled and dissolved I could deal with it.

I find the Hindu Goddess Kali fascinating.I don't think she is a negative force but I feel like she can humanity help accept the inevitable that everything just crumbles in the end.Sometimes I feel drawn to her because she cuts away all the evil, illusion and the drama.Things fall apart in my life all the time yet it is comforting to think of her doing her cosmic dance throughtout the chaos totally unphased as everything thing crumbles.It's is nothing to her nothing can bring her down.I have been suicidal in the past but it isn't an option anymore no matter how bad I feel.At the moment I am not sure which path or deity bests suits me but I lean towards older ways and older gods and goddeses.I do love nature and animals.

I am not a Christian anymore but I do believe that the highest divinity or power or divinities or powers can help us and lead us along the right path.I do believe there is something there so I really hope the both of us find what we are looking for and at the end of it all we are safe and happy.


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posted January 27, 2016 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[]I hope I didn't offend you Mirage29.
I have a horrible habit of using smutty humour if I get an opening.
I thought the sexy santa might make you giggle as well as give you, me and everyone a little treat.
As for some of the songs I posted I was thinking more about the themes of perservering through hard times rather than break ups in romances.
Those songs could be about both themes at the time I couldn't really think of better ones. ...[/i]

No... I was not offended. What you said about the smutty humor when you get an opening, is the same as me. Humor is a creative art, and it tickles. Sexy Santa didn't just make me giggle, it had me laughing sooo uproariously. I enjoyed it (and hope others did too, or else gave us some latitude of enjoyment). The theme of 'persevering through hard times' was definitely noted, and I was/am very thankful. Your song selection was MORE than perfect, Mr. Virgo Moon! hahaha

I've always loved the song Addicted to Love~~ I could have passed as a Palmer-girl easily a while ago. Had that kind of Scorpio-Capricorn look. Statuesque, powerful. Dark hair and extra-fair complexion. Red lipstick?... High heels? oh sultry ~yeah, baby (laughing) ...Now? today? I look tired like I need a few days of true refreshing. (And, a hug! yes, I need some huggable people in my life, who like and want to hug me back!)

Hey I know?!, we could start a human bear-hug service. Dress our people up in bear pile outfits, send them out delivering picnic baskets... maybe a bottle of wine, some cheese-- and jingle bells??? LMAO

Looking at your chart, I can see the push-pull as far as your needing a relation, but needing your space. Also the aloof indifferent vibe of Altjira, definitely pushes-away, or others think you 'appear' that way, depending on 'whatever planet' its' associated with... Sometimes I wonder if aspects with aloof Altjira can be involved with spectrums of autism? ... Would be fun to research.

As long as the person is 'separate' from you, while being together as a couple, you're able to serve and be happy. Gotta watch that you don't overpower that partner wants, (~oh, and have your 'safe word'? LMAO!) but protect their right to be their own property and an individual as well. Frostbite? haha (I think the Vesta Taurus may have something to do with that, too.) Neptune (spirit) and Uranus (awakener) in harmony with Venus (love) in 9th (The Higher vibration in Consciousness)-- maybe that's down the road for you? if you 'hold space' for that to happen for yourself. Arrangement between you and God. Wooing... Saturn was regarded with spirituality to the Vedics. (I better wrap this up, and go to bed-- so cutting that short here.) And, with Ceres Leo 10th, learn to love and accept yourself for exactly who you are-- self-acceptance.

I'll always love Christianity, but my next-favorite religion would be Hinduism, for me. With humor, I want to say that it would be harder for a Gemmy to be a Buddhist-- there's a part of me that feels that it IS possible to die of boredom? haha!! ... I shouldn't say that. I'm probably 'doing it wrong' if I say that that's the result I've gotten going to a couple intros. To me, it's like water--- the lakes. You can have salt water lakes, or fresh water lakes. I've done both, and being near salt water just 'feels' better to me. Hinduism is like the salty water. I definitely wouldn't push away the Buddhists. ---- It's all just 'wet'... the Quality of 'wet' with GOD. I'll jump-in anyday. Yogananda chant song, 'I am the Bubble, Make me the Sea' ... hmmmmp. Sea is salty????? just sayin' (and being ridiculous, for fun).

I have 15417 Babylon at 13.13' Taurus, next to my Venus.

(music) Rivers of Babylon (Boney M) [4:19] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ybv4DOj-N0

Hug your InnerChild... and you Hug the World, in Cosmic resonance
(music) By The Waters, we lay down and wept, we remember...(round) [2:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAJUXOg3guA

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(music) Walking In The Air (The Snowman Theme, instrumental piano) [3:42] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QeaVHGgX10

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