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Topic: Killing embryos?
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SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 1850 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 14, 2017 04:04 PM
Hello AllI woke up from a scary dream. I was in an alien land (so no familiar surroundings) and I had two babies in the embryonic sacks when early stages of pregnancy. They were not linked to my body with a cord but could hold them in my hands outside of my body. For some reason,, I was fearful and had to get rid of one of the babies. So I went to the lake which was a murky colour and burst the sack (gosh this makes me so sad to write this) and baby died. I left the lake and was in a room, I was searching for the other embyronic sack that I was keeping and realised it had died as sack had got ripped. Then I woke up - feelings of pain, loss and fear. I think the babies are symbols - of what am not sure. I wonder too if it about ideas of parenthood and taking care of others. I felt so sad when woke up. Sparkling IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 106646 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2017 05:07 PM
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Ayelet Moderator Posts: 2874 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 16, 2017 12:00 AM
Hello Sparkling, The dream could be about parenthood. It may also be about that symbolically. Maybe you feel you need to sacrifice one thing for the sake of another, and then you discover the sacrifice has been in vain, and you have lost both embryos. Is there such a situation, or possible script, in your life? It may have happened already, or this dream tries to warn you not to make that sacrifice.These are my suggestions. How do you feel about it? IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 1850 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 16, 2017 04:47 AM
Hello My Mum is not talking to me as we had a fight and she has ignored me for 6 weeks now. I did wonder if the embryos represented my sister and I as we are the only children of our Mum. I think I feel grief at the way I have been parented and perhaps fear if I have own children they will be emotionally sacrificed? Sparkling
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 10944 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted December 16, 2017 01:28 PM
quote: Hello All I woke up from a scary dream. I was in an alien land (so no familiar surroundings) and I had two babies in the embryonic sacks when early stages of pregnancy. They were not linked to my body with a cord but could hold them in my hands outside of my body. For some reason,, I was fearful and had to get rid of one of the babies. So I went to the lake which was a murky colour and burst the sack (gosh this makes me so sad to write this) and baby died. I left the lake and was in a room, I was searching for the other embyronic sack that I was keeping and realised it had died as sack had got ripped. Then I woke up - feelings of pain, loss and fear. I think the babies are symbols - of what am not sure. I wonder too if it about ideas of parenthood and taking care of others. I felt so sad when woke up. Sparkling
quote: Hello My Mum is not talking to me as we had a fight and she has ignored me for 6 weeks now. I did wonder if the embryos represented my sister and I as we are the only children of our Mum. I think I feel grief at the way I have been parented and perhaps fear if I have own children they will be emotionally sacrificed? Sparkling
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Sounds too like you're grieving that you might have guilt that you didn't 'handle' that fight (with Mum) properly, and feel responsibility for what amounted to the destruction (temporarily?) of a facet of your relationship with her? You grieve the choice you had made that put 'division' and a sense of alienation (twin sacs) between you, your Mum, and your sister? After you backtrack this, and reframe and understand the dynamics of what happened, and how 'vital' (living) that relationship is to you, then maybe you can find a way to naturally resolve this? You're feeling emotionally abandoned right now through her not communicating.
Does she like flowers? ... Is there anything you can send her, or do for her, that would say 'I Love You'? As far as emotionally abandoning your own babies some day? ... nah. Someone who says they are 'worried' they would, probably wouldn't? You wouldn't be so concerned about it.
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 10944 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted December 16, 2017 07:17 PM
(music) Sleepsong (Fionnuala Gill, Secret Garden, from Earthsongs) [4:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2xnPSRSSzU lyrics Lay down your head and I'll sing you a lullaby Back to the years of loo-li lai-lay And I'll sing you to sleep and I'll sing you tomorrow Bless you with love for the road that you go May you sail far to the far fields of fortune With diamonds and pearls at your head and your feet And may you need never to banish misfortune May you find kindness in all that you meet May there always be angels to watch over you To guide you each step of the way To guard you and keep you safe from all harm Loo-li, loo-li, lai-lay May you bring love and may you bring happiness Be loved in return to the end of your days Now fall off to sleep, I'm not meaning to keep you I'll just sit for a while and sing loo-li, lai-lay May there always be angels to watch over you To guide you each step of the way To guard you and keep you safe from all harm Loo-li, loo-li, lai-lay, loo-li, loo-li, lai-lay...
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 106646 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 17, 2017 04:24 PM
Love those lyrics. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 106646 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 18, 2017 07:01 PM
And the angel!IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 1850 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 19, 2017 06:11 AM
Hello Randall, mirage29 and Ayelet Thank you so much for listening, the beautiful lyrics and angel. You have lifted my spirits! Sparkling IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 10944 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted December 19, 2017 10:23 AM
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Ayelet Moderator Posts: 2874 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 21, 2017 03:28 AM
Hi Sparkling, I'm sorry I return only now... I think perhaps your dream shows a great empathy toward your mother, while you experience yourself motherhood... Maybe you take her part on yourself. It could be that you feel the fight with your mom endangers your relationship with her. You may also feel alienation, as the embrios been outside of the body. But it could also mean you and your sister are already out. But everything is so sensitive and can be hurt deeply... Perhaps your subconsciousness tells you reconciliation with your mom is a matter of life and death to you. IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 1850 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 21, 2017 05:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ayelet: Hi Sparkling, I'm sorry I return only now... I think perhaps your dream shows a great empathy toward your mother, while you experience yourself motherhood... Maybe you take her part on yourself. It could be that you feel the fight with your mom endangers your relationship with her. You may also feel alienation, as the embrios been outside of the body. But it could also mean you and your sister are already out. But everything is so sensitive and can be hurt deeply... Perhaps your subconsciousness tells you reconciliation with your mom is a matter of life and death to you.
Yes, I think themes you picked up resonate. The lack of umblical cord was important. There has been a bonded disconnect for years. It is life and death I feel, we are not on this planet forever so I do worry about regret. IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 1850 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 21, 2017 05:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by mirage29: {{ }}Sounds too like you're grieving that you might have guilt that you didn't 'handle' that fight (with Mum) properly, and feel responsibility for what amounted to the destruction (temporarily?) of a facet of your relationship with her? You grieve the choice you had made that put 'division' and a sense of alienation (twin sacs) between you, your Mum, and your sister? After you backtrack this, and reframe and understand the dynamics of what happened, and how 'vital' (living) that relationship is to you, then maybe you can find a way to naturally resolve this? You're feeling emotionally abandoned right now through her not communicating.
Does she like flowers? ... Is there anything you can send her, or do for her, that would say 'I Love You'? As far as emotionally abandoning your own babies some day? ... nah. Someone who says they are 'worried' they would, probably wouldn't? You wouldn't be so concerned about it.
Things are really 'different' when you have your own children. Takes a long time (pregnancy). Nature prepares you to be able to bond with your child. How is your Friend in NewYork doing, the one who had her baby? --- Did she make you the Godmother? Lots of Love
Hello mirage29 I sent her xmas gift and she emailed to say arrived. Still very cold and she has not sent anything to me at all and I got a cold card on my birthday last month. Abandonment still very strong but loving myself instead. Not sure if this will get resolved... Sparkling IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 10944 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted December 21, 2017 09:54 PM
quote: Hello mirage29 I sent her xmas gift and she emailed to say arrived. Still very cold and she has not sent anything to me at all and I got a cold card on my birthday last month. Abandonment still very strong but loving myself instead. Not sure if this will get resolved... Sparkling
I'm sorry, Sparkling ... At least she sent you a card-- Means she still thinks about you? Time can mellow people. Don't give up hope. And, you are Important. {{{Merry Christmas, Sparkling .... }}} IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 1850 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 22, 2017 01:49 AM
Merry Christmas Mirage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ5DOWPGxwg IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 10944 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted December 22, 2017 01:39 PM
quote: Merry Christmas Mirage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ5DOWPGxwg
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Ayelet Moderator Posts: 2874 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 24, 2017 12:46 PM
Hi Sparkling, it is very saddening to hear about this disconnection. I think you are doing, on your part, what you can.. I hope your mom will understand better someday.. I think love can't die... Perhaps it's not comforting, but I totally believe in that, and that this reality is a dream, and in the true reality there is a strong bond of love and understanding between you two. Never despair of how things appear to be on the surface. I wish you a very merry and happy christmass, and I also wish you'll always have someone besides you who cares.. and give you the love you deserve IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 1850 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 25, 2017 06:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ayelet: Hi Sparkling, it is very saddening to hear about this disconnection. I think you are doing, on your part, what you can.. I hope your mom will understand better someday.. I think love can't die... Perhaps it's not comforting, but I totally believe in that, and that this reality is a dream, and in the true reality there is a strong bond of love and understanding between you two. Never despair of how things appear to be on the surface. I wish you a very merry and happy christmass, and I also wish you'll always have someone besides you who cares.. and give you the love you deserve
Dear Ayelet Thank you so much for the comforting words. I did angel cards this morning and self-worth flew out as did faith so i'll self love as much as I can Wishing you a lovely Christmas and hope 2018 brings you all you wish for. Sparkling IP: Logged |
Ayelet Moderator Posts: 2874 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 25, 2017 11:42 PM
The angel cards sound like they're worthy of a good meditation.. Thank you Sparkling IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 106646 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 26, 2017 12:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ayelet: The angel cards sound like they're worthy of a good meditation.. Thank you Sparkling
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SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 1850 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 31, 2018 12:34 AM
Hello AllI am back! It has been a while. This dream came back to me since I discovered a medical issue to do with conceiving and complications. Sad Sparkling IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 10944 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted May 31, 2018 10:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by SparklingSag:This dream came back to me since I discovered a medical issue to do with conceiving and complications. Sad Sparkling
Gentle comforting hugs, for Sad Sparkling {{ }} Amazing how the intelligent forces in 'the body' can reveal medical things going on in us, in advance, through our dreams.
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SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 1850 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 31, 2018 09:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by mirage29: Gentle comforting hugs, for Sad Sparkling {{ }} Amazing how the intelligent forces in 'the body' can reveal medical things going on in us, in advance, through our dreams.
Yes, absolutely and complications of premature birth or death. Sparkling IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 106646 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2018 04:57 PM
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 10944 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted June 01, 2018 09:17 PM
Your Dreams are Valuable. They serve you. What a gift. "To sleep … perchance to Dream" -repurposed, from Shakespeare The video on this song is far-out! Looks like cells and, embryos. Each individual, part of something Bigger than they are; Each playing their part, connected, making one Whole. (music) Sleep (Eric Whitacre, Virtual Choir 2.0) [9:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WhWDCw3Mng ________________________________ REF cross-referencing your other dream that connects with this. RE bf's suicide, created May 31, 2018 12:47 AM - http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/004184.html
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