posted December 02, 2018 10:58 PM            

Okay, so I got this dream where I was forcefully kissed by 2 females (French kiss to be precise lol) and I'm a female.

I was supposed to accompany 7 girls (6 Korean+ 1 Japanese) in an airplane headed from Tokyo and there was a tomboy girl (Japanese one) for whom I had the hots.

I spoke normally with everyone and since I was good at Japanese, I had an extra rapport with her (I can speak Japanese irl). She was shy in the beginning which was rather unexpected for a tomboy but anyway I tried to make her comfortable.

Then there was a red haired Korean girl named Anne among the other 6. I got her attention I think? She was very cheery and we had a good discussion. But we ended up fighting because she posted in their group chats that I came off as arrogant. I wasn't in the group chats but I saw it in the phone of an Aries girl (she looked so typically Aries, it was surprising!).

I felt very bad because I thought I was being betrayed and I tried to sort it out with other girls and a lady who accompanied them.

The tomboy noticed that I was getting closer with Anne (Idk whether she knew about our fight or not but I think she somehow understood the sexual tension between us) and I think she acted a bit jealous. I was standing in front of her while she was sitting when she had a soft expression, hugged me and started crying a little. I was shocked. I understood what that meant but I still tried to ask her. She just said 'never mind' and I went for sending them a farewell.

Then Anne appears sporting a boycut and looks at me with a flirtatious gaze. I finally confronted her about the ruckus she had been causing lately. At this point, I think I had fallen for her. She made a flirtatious expression, almost rude, and asked, "Why do you think I'm doing that?" while giving a stare you can't actually mistake for anything else lol. I blushed and she came and sat next to me where I think she kissed my cheek. The tomboy looked devasted but I didn't bother that much because I had already shown enough concern and she knew I liked her so I thought she might not be interested.

Then, I ended up with another minor issue with Anne. We were at the crossing and the traffic lights were red and she was supposed to board a red bus which was standing there. I went there with her and she pinned me on the bus and kissed my lips!! I didn't know what to do, the tomboy was looking at me. Anne said it's your punishment, I had already fallen for her and I asked her, "Anne atleast hug me" , she didn't and went off.

Meanwhile, I was left with the remaining 5 girls asked and the tomboy. She reassuringly grabbed my hand and gave me a smile. Later, she kissed me in a building I don't know saying she will come for me.

And I got up. And it felt so real!! My heartbeat didn't stabilize for an hour!! I have had such a lucid dream only once before this one.

I know being kissed by someone is good

I have seen these people, not that I have ever spoken with them or anything.

And yes, I have never had a French kiss with anyone lol so that was my first (and second lol)!!

posted December 06, 2018 07:39 PM            

In this dream you experience yourself as sexually attractive, the object of desire for two dominant girls. It very well might be the budding of your sexuality. You start becoming aware of your personal power and femininity.

There is also the issue of social interaction and the need to stand out in a way, be special, unique, an individual, while staying part of a group, to belong. You are also concerned with social dynamics, and the need to assert yourself without being rejected.
Could it be you want to express yourself more than you do in real life, but are afraid others would think you are arrogant, like what was going on in the dream? And maybe sometimes you feel "out"' that you are an outsider, not included?
Maybe this dream also calls for a reconciliation and balance between the masculine and feminine sides within you (a shy tomboy who is different from the rest of the group, you trying to make peace with the group and a lady - feminine authority - after asserting yourself in a discussion with an Aries girl (masculinity), who might be a leader figure).
It also could be you are trying to make a choice with which character to identify in your life - will you be the tomboy - having her own force but being shy, different - or Anne - a social leader, a seemingly direct person, but who can also act behind your back. Both characters have a certain power. It seems you feel that in order to belong to the group, a personal truth needs to be sacrified (the betrayal).

posted December 07, 2018 10:37 PM            

(music) I Kissed A Girl (Katy Perry, lyrics) [2:58] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X024NEsDyC8

You said you were "forced"-- and yet, you laughed? You want to break some societal taboos? or, is someone/someGroup trying to "force you" into making a choice that your psyche is just not ready for? You feel love-bombed and being pushed into a position that is not agreeable to the core of you? Parts of you are arguing against what the 'rest' are doing. (red flags?)

Trying to find "approval" with others in your life, and having to 'force' self to break/violate taboos in order to get acceptance? …

Now that a few days have passed, how are your 'emotions'? Do you still have turmoil?

Perhaps,
You have been actually contemplating to act on a desire to try a same-sex partner, or become involved in group-sex? If it "fits" you, then, that's one thing---
if there is no 'force' or violating of what values are inside you.

-- but if you're "trying" to go-along with everyone, attempting to "prove" you are "part of the 'in-crowd'" just to be accepted, then maybe think very very very deeply and carefully? You are the one who will deal with the consequence if you betray your own self, your own "comfort" inside.

And, we choose to do things 'against' our own values sometimes just-because we need to 'test' and become who we are.

If you violate your own conscience.. you could wind up with a sickened-feeling inside. A woundedness. Then have to 'live' with it.. But {{ }} we Grow too. We grow and go on. Tuition, part of life.

Have to say this too--
Be careful in case that you may be being unduly "influenced" and groomed to break your personal boundary-lines, in order to be formed into 'a lure' for (victim of) a sex-trade industry/ sex-trafficking.

If this is NOT what you want,
then carefully, consider a plan to get yourself to safety-- your parents (if you are still friends with them), law enforcement in your country.

Register for a help group, a woman's victim group. Don't go down that dangerous path-- you could be trapped, hurt quite badly, or killed/murdered.

People may not be as they seem.
*~

Back to your dream---
Red haired girl got your attention..
Is that a "trend" in your social circles?

Or maybe,
be on-guard about someone in your life, your group, your social circles who may have bad intentions towards you?

btw...
Why/how did you adopt your LL user-name, "AnneFrank"?
What is her significance to you?

asteroid 5535 AnneFrank
Are you a writer? Keeping a journal?

Anne Frank is the name of a young Jewish girl who had to hide (with her family) during the Nazi occupation. She was later found and killed by these Nazis.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Frank

posted December 08, 2018 11:59 AM            

How did you get proficient in the Japanese language?

posted December 18, 2018 02:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Hello AnneFrank,
Maybe you are awakened to sexuality through self exploration. The girls might represent different sides in yourself. There are inner tensions and also a lot of excitement and attraction. The colour red is stimulating and calls for action.
What are Korean and Japanese cultures to you?
Maybe the girls kiss you because you feel hesitant to act upon your own impulses, to be active erotically. You feel, perhaps, you need to be approached, even forcefully, because you are not ready yet to own your sexual nature.

In this dream you experience yourself as sexually attractive, the object of desire for two dominant girls. It very well might be the budding of your sexuality. You start becoming aware of your personal power and femininity.

There is also the issue of social interaction and the need to stand out in a way, be special, unique, an individual, while staying part of a group, to belong. You are also concerned with social dynamics, and the need to assert yourself without being rejected.
Could it be you want to express yourself more than you do in real life, but are afraid others would think you are arrogant, like what was going on in the dream? And maybe sometimes you feel "out"' that you are an outsider, not included?
Maybe this dream also calls for a reconciliation and balance between the masculine and feminine sides within you (a shy tomboy who is different from the rest of the group, you trying to make peace with the group and a lady - feminine authority - after asserting yourself in a discussion with an Aries girl (masculinity), who might be a leader figure).
It also could be you are trying to make a choice with which character to identify in your life - will you be the tomboy - having her own force but being shy, different - or Anne - a social leader, a seemingly direct person, but who can also act behind your back. Both characters have a certain power. It seems you feel that in order to belong to the group, a personal truth needs to be sacrified (the betrayal).

How do you feel about these suggestions?

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Thanks for your reply!

I do think I'm experiencing sexual awakening. I'm a virgin and I never had a relationship with a man. I have been liked by many men but I have ALWAYS ALWAYS turned them down.

I have had some make out sessions with my female roommate who is straight. I never felt sexually attached to her, emotionally, yes. We were just experimenting TBH.

Korean and Japanese cultures are foreign to me but I have good proficiency in Japanese and I can understand Korean a bit. I'm Asian tho

Well, most of the time I attract obsessive people in a good way so yeah I'm always forced upon even though I'm very dominant.
Yes, I'm not ready for my sexual nature.

In this dream, I made two submissive looking girls go all dominant for me. The tomboy was a soft butch type so not exactly submissive but she did act submissive but I kinda knew she's not lol.

I come across as arrogant in real life and I'm a rebellious outcast so XD

The Aries girl was not the leader, an Aquarian girl was. The Aries one was really prominent though.

Yes, I'm trying to make a choice. Sometimes, I act like a tomboy myself and sometimes I act like a feminine girl but I never liked pink colour lol.

posted December 18, 2018 03:03 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by mirage29:

(music) I Kissed A Girl (Katy Perry, lyrics) [2:58] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X024NEsDyC8

You said you were "forced"-- and yet, you laughed? You want to break some societal taboos? or, is someone/someGroup trying to "force you" into making a choice that your psyche is just not ready for? You feel love-bombed and being pushed into a position that is not agreeable to the core of you? Parts of you are arguing against what the 'rest' are doing. (red flags?)

Trying to find "approval" with others in your life, and having to 'force' self to break/violate taboos in order to get acceptance? …

Now that a few days have passed, how are your 'emotions'? Do you still have turmoil?

Perhaps,
You have been actually contemplating to act on a desire to try a same-sex partner, or become involved in group-sex? If it "fits" you, then, that's one thing---
if there is no 'force' or violating of what values are inside you.

-- but if you're "trying" to go-along with everyone, attempting to "prove" you are "part of the 'in-crowd'" just to be accepted, then maybe think very very very deeply and carefully? You are the one who will deal with the consequence if you betray your own self, your own "comfort" inside.

And, we choose to do things 'against' our own values sometimes just-because we need to 'test' and become who we are.

If you violate your own conscience.. you could wind up with a sickened-feeling inside. A woundedness. Then have to 'live' with it.. But {{ }} we Grow too. We grow and go on. Tuition, part of life.

Have to say this too--
Be careful in case that you may be being unduly "influenced" and groomed to break your personal boundary-lines, in order to be formed into 'a lure' for (victim of) a sex-trade industry/ sex-trafficking.

If this is NOT what you want,
then carefully, consider a plan to get yourself to safety-- your parents (if you are still friends with them), law enforcement in your country.

Register for a help group, a woman's victim group. Don't go down that dangerous path-- you could be trapped, hurt quite badly, or killed/murdered.

People may not be as they seem.
*~

Back to your dream---
Red haired girl got your attention..
Is that a "trend" in your social circles?

Or maybe,
be on-guard about someone in your life, your group, your social circles who may have bad intentions towards you?

btw...
Why/how did you adopt your LL user-name, "[b]AnneFrank"?
What is her significance to you?

asteroid 5535 AnneFrank
Are you a writer? Keeping a journal?

Anne Frank is the name of a young Jewish girl who had to hide (with her family) during the Nazi occupation. She was later found and killed by these Nazis.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Frank

- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Frank,_Anne [/B]

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Wow! Thanks for the song and the reply!

I'm always the rebellious outcast so breaking taboos is basically my profession lol. I was forced and yet I was happy… it was a source of fulfillment and I longed for more in the dream. Even as I was quasi-awake, I wanted to go back to the dream. I woke up with my heart beating like crazy and emotions all over the place! And I slept a lot that day trying to continue the dream because I wanted to know what lied ahead.

I don't think I feel love bombed TBH. I'm always against what the rest are doing so XD

I think I'm against injustice and the society sees it as a taboo so I get uncomfortable at times.

I got that dream on November 20 and it's almost a month and even as I'm writing this my emotions are in a blizzard and my heart rate is over the top! I still feel something huge is impending. Something is going to happen. Idk what. I didn't write a reply early because my emotions would get so powerful and I would go almost crazy!

I have been questioning my sexuality TBH. Sometimes I think I'm asexual, sometimes homosexual and sometimes heterosexual. It's a mess.

My country is not a very LGBTQ friendly TBH but I'm not sure whether I'm a member or not. But I honestly try to fit in. Thanks for your advice, I'll think really deeply and carefully because it can get an emotional outburst from me.

I already have that 'sickened' feeling. I self diagnosed my depression and I'm getting help from my uncle who's a doctor. Mental health is a social stigma in my country so I talk to him.

Right, I won't get lured there. So scary to even think about it. Million thanks again. I have never watched porn and I won't do it either. I am totally against it. I did some research on the lives of porn stars and I was disgusted.

Just to mention, the dream had no scary vibe, it had a playful and romantically intense vibe around the time I got kissed.

This girl Anne, kissed me by pinning me (she just held my wrists around the level of my shoulders) to a bright red and shiny bus in the middle of the street while the traffic was stopped (red light was on I mean). The time was afternoon with Sun shining brightly.

Nope, red hair color, it's not a trend in my country. I have never seen anyone do that. Most people dye their hair black, brown or dark blonde or highlight them with these colours or sometimes red.

I'm always a victim for back stabbing and I don't trust people that much but I'll be careful.

I just knew about her but not into this much depth. I just typed Anne and my keyboard suggested Frank so there you go. I had no idea she was such a significant issue in the Europe. I'm sorry if I hired some sentiments. Idk how to change it.

I don't write a diary or a journal.

Btw, I'm planning to drop out from my university because I was never interested in this subject and I want to do what I like (I want to pursue medicine). My father is supportive. Do you think this has any relation with my dream?

posted December 18, 2018 03:07 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Are you Dutch, or German?

How did you get proficient in the Japanese language?

Did you travel for your work?

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I'm Asian

I learned Japanese just for fun. I watched a lot of anime and ended up liking the language.

I also attempted an exam to study in Japan twice but failed because of some restrictions between my country and Japan.

posted December 18, 2018 03:26 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by mirage29:

(music) I Kissed A Girl (Katy Perry, lyrics) [2:58] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X024NEsDyC8

You said you were "forced"-- and yet, you laughed? You want to break some societal taboos? or, is someone/someGroup trying to "force you" into making a choice that your psyche is just not ready for? You feel love-bombed and being pushed into a position that is not agreeable to the core of you? Parts of you are arguing against what the 'rest' are doing. (red flags?)

Trying to find "approval" with others in your life, and having to 'force' self to break/violate taboos in order to get acceptance? …

Now that a few days have passed, how are your 'emotions'? Do you still have turmoil?

Perhaps,
You have been actually contemplating to act on a desire to try a same-sex partner, or become involved in group-sex? If it "fits" you, then, that's one thing---
if there is no 'force' or violating of what values are inside you.

-- but if you're "trying" to go-along with everyone, attempting to "prove" you are "part of the 'in-crowd'" just to be accepted, then maybe think very very very deeply and carefully? You are the one who will deal with the consequence if you betray your own self, your own "comfort" inside.

And, we choose to do things 'against' our own values sometimes just-because we need to 'test' and become who we are.

If you violate your own conscience.. you could wind up with a sickened-feeling inside. A woundedness. Then have to 'live' with it.. But {{ }} we Grow too. We grow and go on. Tuition, part of life.

Have to say this too--
Be careful in case that you may be being unduly "influenced" and groomed to break your personal boundary-lines, in order to be formed into 'a lure' for (victim of) a sex-trade industry/ sex-trafficking.

If this is NOT what you want,
then carefully, consider a plan to get yourself to safety-- your parents (if you are still friends with them), law enforcement in your country.

Register for a help group, a woman's victim group. Don't go down that dangerous path-- you could be trapped, hurt quite badly, or killed/murdered.

People may not be as they seem.
*~

Back to your dream---
Red haired girl got your attention..
Is that a "trend" in your social circles?

Or maybe,
be on-guard about someone in your life, your group, your social circles who may have bad intentions towards you?

btw...
Why/how did you adopt your LL user-name, "[b]AnneFrank"?
What is her significance to you?

asteroid 5535 AnneFrank
Are you a writer? Keeping a journal?

Anne Frank is the name of a young Jewish girl who had to hide (with her family) during the Nazi occupation. She was later found and killed by these Nazis.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Frank

- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Frank,_Anne [/B]

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Wow! Thanks for the song and the reply!

I'm always the rebellious outcast so breaking taboos is basically my profession lol. I was forced and yet I was happy… it was a source of fulfillment and I longed for more in the dream. Even as I was quasi-awake, I wanted to go back to the dream. I woke up with my heart beating like crazy and emotions all over the place! And I slept a lot that day trying to continue the dream because I wanted to know what lied ahead.

I don't think I feel love bombed TBH. I'm always against what the rest are doing so XD

I think I'm against injustice and the society sees it as a taboo so I get uncomfortable at times.

I got that dream on November 20 and it's almost a month and even as I'm writing this my emotions are in a blizzard and my heart rate is over the top! I still feel something huge is impending. Something is going to happen. Idk what. I didn't write a reply early because my emotions would get so powerful and I would go almost crazy!

I have been questioning my sexuality TBH. Sometimes I think I'm asexual, sometimes homosexual and sometimes heterosexual. It's a mess.

My country is not a very LGBTQ friendly TBH but I'm not sure whether I'm a member or not. But I honestly try to fit in. Thanks for your advice, I'll think really deeply and carefully because it can get an emotional outburst from me.

I already have that 'sickened' feeling. I self diagnosed my depression and I'm getting help from my uncle who's a doctor. Mental health is a social stigma in my country so I talk to him.

Right, I won't get lured there. So scary to even think about it. Million thanks again. I have never watched porn but I did some research on the lives of the porn stars and was scared as hell. I'm not into that thankfully.

Nope it's not a trend in my country. I have never seen anyone do that. Most people dye their hair black, brown or dark blonde or highlight them with these colours or sometimes red.

I'm always a victim for back stabbing and I don't trust people that much but I'll be careful.

I just knew about her but not into this much depth. I just typed Anne and my keyboard suggested Frank so there you go. I had no idea she was such a significant issue in the Europe. I'm sorry if I hired some sentiments. Idk how to change it.

I don't write a diary or a journal.

Btw, I'm planning to drop out from my university because I was never interested in this subject and I want to do what I like (I want to pursue medicine, I'm currently doing naturopathy). My father is supportive. I want to be a surgeon maybe this has a relation with all the red I'm seeing. Do you think this has any relation with my dream?

posted December 20, 2018 11:23 PM            

So, I'm just stopping by very briefly right now. Things got a little busy the past few days.

As far as your sexuality is concerned, just, take your time. No need to label one way or another. Just be. Allow yourself to flow.

Hey, I'm really glad that your uncle is 'there' for you. Yes, mental health is a stigma in my country too. There's a difference between 'being depressed'/having depression (even if it's deep), and something called 'clinical depression'.
.. Perhaps now that Jupiter has moved into Sagittarius (and your H5), things might feel more cheery (I hope so for you).

You say you want to drop out of university, and yet you want to pursue medicine (which you say you like)?, and ask if it relates to your dream?
.. Well, since you asked me that, makes sense that it must relate then?
How do you think it relates?

With the kiss scene.. I wonder how much of that relates to your having 'experimented' with your friend? .. In the dream, she kisses you, you ask her for a hug, and she didn't and left.
.. How does that make you feel?
Were you wanting emotional "intimacy" than just a kiss?

Does the dream remind you of a 'movie'/film you've seen? Like you were playing it out?

posted December 23, 2018 01:55 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Hi Anne Frank!
Thank you for your very interesting response.
I could sense your personality and you are just delightful to read. Refreshing.

So, I'm just stopping by very briefly right now. Things got a little busy the past few days.

As far as your sexuality is concerned, just, take your time. No need to label one way or another. Just be. Allow yourself to flow.

Hey, I'm really glad that your uncle is 'there' for you. Yes, mental health is a stigma in my country too. There's a difference between 'being depressed'/having depression (even if it's deep), and something called 'clinical depression'.
.. Perhaps now that Jupiter has moved into Sagittarius (and your H5), things might feel more cheery (I hope so for you).

You say you want to drop out of university, and yet you want to pursue medicine (which you say you like)?, and ask if it relates to your dream?
.. Well, since you asked me that, makes sense that it must relate then?
How do you think it relates?

With the kiss scene.. I wonder how much of that relates to your having 'experimented' with your friend? .. In the dream, she kisses you, you ask her for a hug, and she didn't and left.
.. How does that make you feel?
Were you wanting emotional "intimacy" than just a kiss?

Does the dream remind you of a 'movie'/film you've seen? Like you were playing it out?

(How old are you now?)
See you later.

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Mr/Miss. Mirage!

OMG I can't believe how accurate your interpretation of my dream is!

My father is philandering with girls half his age on a social app wearing my scarves!! I think he's a pedophile. I saw the dream on 20th November, he sent so many romantic messages to young girls on 25th.

I came to know about it on Thursday and I told my uncle who has been helping me (yes, I have clinical depression and anxiety; self diagnosed but he confirmed it) and my father's (I hate to call him father!) elder brother.

Yes, Jupiter has moved into my 5th house and it'll conjunct my natal Pluto which is at 0.3'r very soon and it's a roller coaster!!

Yes I'm taking my sexuality as it comes and I'm not forcing one thing or other so I'm fine.

I'm a student of naturopathy (oriental medicine) and I want modern medicine (MB BS) so I'm dropping out.

Well, I think red also signifies blood and I want to be a surgeon (Cardiothoracic and vascular) which is interesting because it causes the most blood loss. Also, I got this dream near the time of Jupiter's transition in my 5th house which deals with learning, wisdom. love, children, recognition, position, gambling and most importantly it is the 9th house from 9th house of luck; which enhances the person’s status during 5th house period and Jupiter's transit may very well denote expansion and it is exactly what's happening. The last time I got Jupiter in 5th house I changed schools from a very cheap public school to a very costly private school. This is my interpretation And I have a small crush on a Plutonian guy nowadays haha maybe transit Jupiter conjunct Pluto with transit Pluto in my 7th house conjunct Jupiter, Neptune and Uranus lol (Capricorn).

It was very different from what I experimented with my friend. I was usually the dominant one but the dream was opposite.

I wanted passionate and emotional love in the dream. I felt heartbroken when she didn't hug me. It felt so incomplete and I felt wronged. When I woke up my heartbeat was over the roof and I was sweating profusely not to mention the feeling of kiss on my lips. Even now I feel weird haha.

It doesn't remind me of any movie tbh. Let me know if it reminds you of any movie. I'd like to see it.

I'm 22

posted December 26, 2018 06:14 PM            

Sorry to hear you suffer from depression.
Sorry your dad is like that.
I'm so glad you have your uncle. And? You are going to follow in his profession? You have mentors!

I think it's impressive that you want a more advanced degree/certification in medicine.

I smiled when I saw that you want to go into
Cardiothoracic and vascular medicine. 'Thoracic' is inside the ribs. The chest cage is zodiac Cancer's region.

Your Mars Gemini H11 sextiles your Aries MC, trine your IC Libra with PallasAthene 23.
Sounds like that would support being a surgeon?? (not sure, I'll have to check on it)

Certainly!! You'll be able to actively fight for cherished ideas.. and emerge victorious! (Great masculine energy!!) {Demetra George}

Venus Gemini in your 11th should be really supportive to you, acquiring friends that will support you in your endeavors.

{Found your chart in a synastry forum.}

With your depression?.. There's a possibility that you might outgrow that as your chart progresses. You've had some harsh things happen (so sorry), AND, "You're a Winner!"

Again, glad your have two uncles!! covering you, while your dad is doing what he's doing. sheesh.

I'm glad you seem to have a handle on your chart. You know some astrology!! That will definitely HELP you in your life.

The transiting NN beginning its trek through your 12th House .. may bring you some interesting dreams and even spiritual experiences. {Make you even-more psychic than you are }

Oh! About the red, and the woman pinning you up against red bus to kiss?
When I read that, I saw I thought of 'blood' too. Your arms were pinned outward, (like on a Cross; we have Red Cross here in the states who do Catastrophic Relief Work).

Vascular surgeon, blood... thoracic area.
That's partly Venus-category too.
Your chart is delicious!

If I can engage you in a spiritual meaning for this?
Sometimes a 'kiss' in a dream is God/Spirit trying to communicate and give you a gift, a Calling. .. 'Sealed, with a Kiss'.

God breathing INTO your Purpose?

The fact that the dream made SUCH an imprint on you, (including physically), could have been the work of your Soul's Spirit.

When Spirit energy comes through a person sometimes, it can energize even the sexual-energies, clearing blocks (hopefully).

Maybe that decision that you've made to quit ND school for becoming an MD/getting BS, was an affirmative YES from your soul, regarding your Soul's Purpose.

With your Sun in that position from the 12th House, sometimes it's a placement for people who have agreed to Serve Humanity in this lifetime. As long as 'what you do' will add to serving Humanity, then, 'the wind will be at your back'...

Waterfalls of Blessings on you, Miss AnneFrank.

posted January 05, 2019 11:48 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
I'm a woman, AnneFrank. 63, to be 64 e.o. May.

Sorry to hear you suffer from depression.
Sorry your dad is like that.
I'm so glad you have your uncle. And? You are going to follow in his profession? You have mentors!

I think it's impressive that you want a more advanced degree/certification in medicine.

I smiled when I saw that you want to go into
Cardiothoracic and vascular medicine. 'Thoracic' is inside the ribs. The chest cage is zodiac Cancer's region.

Your Mars Gemini H11 sextiles your Aries MC, trine your IC Libra with PallasAthene 23.
Sounds like that would support being a surgeon?? (not sure, I'll have to check on it)

Certainly!! You'll be able to actively fight for cherished ideas.. and emerge victorious! (Great masculine energy!!) {Demetra George}

Venus Gemini in your 11th should be really supportive to you, acquiring friends that will support you in your endeavors.

{Found your chart in a synastry forum.}

With your depression?.. There's a possibility that you might outgrow that as your chart progresses. You've had some harsh things happen (so sorry), AND, "You're a Winner!"

Again, glad your have two uncles!! covering you, while your dad is doing what he's doing. sheesh.

I'm glad you seem to have a handle on your chart. You know some astrology!! That will definitely HELP you in your life.

The transiting NN beginning its trek through your 12th House .. may bring you some interesting dreams and even spiritual experiences. {Make you even-more psychic than you are }

Oh! About the red, and the woman pinning you up against red bus to kiss?
When I read that, I saw I thought of 'blood' too. Your arms were pinned outward, (like on a Cross; we have Red Cross here in the states who do Catastrophic Relief Work).

Vascular surgeon, blood... thoracic area.
That's partly Venus-category too.
Your chart is delicious!

If I can engage you in a spiritual meaning for this?
Sometimes a 'kiss' in a dream is God/Spirit trying to communicate and give you a gift, a Calling. .. 'Sealed, with a Kiss'.

God breathing INTO your Purpose?

The fact that the dream made SUCH an imprint on you, (including physically), could have been the work of your Soul's Spirit.

When Spirit energy comes through a person sometimes, it can energize even the sexual-energies, clearing blocks (hopefully).

Maybe that decision that you've made to quit ND school for becoming an MD/getting BS, was an affirmative YES from your soul, regarding your Soul's Purpose.

With your Sun in that position from the 12th House, sometimes it's a placement for people who have agreed to Serve Humanity in this lifetime. As long as 'what you do' will add to serving Humanity, then, 'the wind will be at your back'...

Waterfalls of Blessings on you, Miss AnneFrank.

Do you have a belief system you practice?

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Thank you very much for your reply Miss Mirage,

I'm almost out of my depression! Yay! No more suicidal thoughts now and it's been more than week! I'm so happy now.

My father and I have become very distant lately. I told him that I get suicidal and he said, "Just don't do it in the house, you'll create trouble for me". He even said "You get God's grace when you lose your parents, wife and children". He lost his wife (my mom) in 2014, his mom in 2017 and his dad in 2018. So he wanted me to die which worked in my favour I guess? Since then I've stopped getting suicidal thoughts. I used to get suicidal everyday since 2014 and now I've become quite strong somehow. Your wise words are very supportive tbh.

I have many doctors in my immediate family and I get a lot of help from my father's younger brother who is a Cardiologist (my mentor hehe) and my mother's brothers are very emotional so I can't talk about these heavy issues because they have a history of cardiac disorders and I don't want to give them any more stress.

Oh yes! Cancer rules the heart omg why didn't I see this coming! I'm really very emotional but I appear aloof but I have heavy Cancer influence. I look like my mother to the point people thought we're sisters, you can't distinguish our voices when we talk on the phone hehe and she gave me a moon shaped locket when I was 3 and I still wear it. I look at the moon a lot, since childhood and even now.

I honestly don't know what Gemini Mars in 11th would do for my career but I've always been vocal about my desire to be a vascular surgeon since I was 9 thanks to the chatty Gemini hehe but it does make sense tbh.

And I'm more than ready to fight for my dreams, for my principles and for my life. So glad it's working in my favour

My friends are really supportive. My own relatives didn't attend my mother's funeral but my friends came from as far as 200km just to support me and some college seniors came who were complete strangers to me then. Now we get along very well

I don't care about my father now that things have come to this point, my cardiologist uncle just flat out said that he's useless and I should focus on my studies and that's exactly what I'm doing.

My mother was very good at astrology and I taught myself after she passed away because she wanted to teach me when I turned 20. Sadly she passed away when I was 18 so I've learnt a lot and I'll continue learning.

Hehe I love being psychic, I help my friends and family with astrological predictions and with more abilities i'm going to get some nice gifts

I'll post a pic of how I got kissed though, it may help *blush* *blush*

(Mods, please remove this if it violates rules. It's just a cartoon kissing but still. I'm sorry in advance!)
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQdssDT07vNlf3WsvYSkZESsb3rk_ePegGvV9_YsHZU__xQZhIE
Only difference is, her hand was on my wrist. Had to search everywhere lol.

I'm glad you liked my chart, I did try for a beauty pageant audition (Miss World) last year but I got a fracture in my left foot and couldn't participate but I'll do it again! Yes because beauty comes from the heart and I'm striving for it. I definitely see the completed equation now.

I see it clearly that God is breathing into my soul because even now as I think about the dream, my heart starts beating wildly and I get restless as if something is impending. I know it's very near and will suddenly erupt causing chaos but I don't know what it is.

I'm born in a Hindu family but I have been influenced by Christianity and Buddhism all my life. My mom and I were sent to Christian missionary schools

Humanitarian causes have always been a sensitive issue for me as I grew up seeing my mother get tortured by my father and his family. I just suddenly 'blast off' at injustice- Uranus Saturn aspect? I think.

Thank you very very much for those invaluable words. I'm so glad I met someone like you.

posted January 11, 2019 01:04 AM            

Later, in the evening he comes and tells me that he'll continue this and we had a row. I told him to have some respect, you're unemployed (since 2003) yet you're using my mother's money to flirt? He said "It's mine now. I can do anything." I asked him if he wants to get married. He didn't give a specific answer. I didn't speak to him for a day. He went out that evening and I didn't open the door for 15 minutes lol.

I told my uncle (his elder brother) who said he'll call him but he hasn't done anything yet. I don't think they'll help though. I'm just treading carefully. I'll disown him when the time comes.

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How I think it relates to my dream:
He had the same eyes as the man in the dream! Scary! His eyes reflected the same perverted look as that man.

I'm currently under Transit Saturn inconjunct Natal Venus since January 8- the day this row happened.
This transit means that relationships end which I can definitely see.

I tried to read his chart for indications of marriage and I don't think that's the case though or its probably my prejudice?

posted January 12, 2019 02:13 AM            

Like Ayelet would probably say too-- that your 'masculine' energies are becoming more balanced. Your 'feminine' energies are gaining a sense of security.

Been trying to wrap around all the losses you've had --
Your Mother, at age 18. {2014}

Your paternal Grandmother when you were 21 {2017}
Your paternal Grandfather in 2018.

When your dad became unemployed, there was the great conjunction of Jupiter-CHIRON-Pluto-Neptune (And Sun Moon and Mercury at one point). This was to his 12th, and the cluster-conjunction around 2010/2011 was ON his Ascendant. The deaths that he experienced of his mom and dad coincided with some un-real transits!

.. He'll be having his 2nd Saturn Return in a few years. Has Saturn on top of his Moon in Capricorn. …

His having this fling with the young woman is probably a breath of fresh air for him (considering the other things I see he passed through).

tUranus has been ON his Venus Aries for a while. Has just turned and is going to start being forward-moving. … hmmmm … *looking at the chart*

Look at his 10th (Jupiter and Venus); 7th {natal Uranus}, and his 2nd House (natal Venus-- Mars coming through, with Uranus at the end).

I can "see" how you would feel that perhaps he is blowing away the money your mom left him.
I most-definitely can sense (and share) your feelings that the AGE-difference between himself {58?} and the sex-girlfriend {24} IS a bit shocking?
.. but look at his Venus Aries with tUranus there, in aspect with his Jupiter-Saturn Cap just-inside the 12th house (trine tVenus-Jupiter!)

.. I wonder if this is the way he is overcoming his grief, Anne?

YOU yourself have a very very powerful grief from the losses that ripped you up as a teenager..
Think about it too?
Your dad failed to be there for you emotionally during that time-- maybe because that's the way a Pisces Sun deals with the aftermaths!!
{{Oh, your dad's Sun Pisces is having an approach of Neptune.}}

Honestly, it looks to me like he is starting to feel a little more strong.

When you had mentioned thesuicide to him (about yourself), the way he responded to you was wrong-- but-- on top of just having lost his wife, his mom, his dad, .. to have lost YOU was probably a thought he could NOT deal with. He used anger, rather than empathy?
I'm sorry that happened...

It IS such a good thing that his brothers have picked up their interest in caring for your needs, and assuring and mentoring you. Yes.. this is very very good.

And for you to think about him having sex with a girl YOUR age??? It's scandalous??? yes, … but you know, (APART FROM HIS BEING your father), it is "legal" for an old man to get it on with a young (gold-digging?) chick?? ..
When you DETACH your relationship in your mind-- (take away the father-daughter dynamics), -- he's using her for pleasure, she's using him for gifts??.. who knows if maybe whether THIS might turn into something authentic and true (even if AWKWARD for 'you')??
See what I mean??? *hug*

If he was a stranger to you, you would judge him.
But add the fact he is your father??
Well... I can understand, really I can--

My next door neighbor is a 40 year old woman.
She is now "keeping" a young man-- IF he's 19, he's 'older' than I thought? She's having a fling with a man who is a few years older than her son(s).
hahaha.. yep.
I really understand 'how' you feel... haha.
My mind was full of all kinds of thoughts about that--- But???!!!!, He's "legal" age for her (if over 18 years old in the US).
.. Looks very AWKWARD to see him there, looking the same rounded age as her sons and their friends.
heheh, also, he plays her sense-surround video games and music there during the day (bothering ME.. *smile*).

But .. people are people.
Sometimes we have to 'adjust' what is "proper" in our own selves, and what we are used to, and widen our perceptions and give them some slack.

Who knows, Anne-- maybe some day you might fall in love, and be in a similar position, right?
awwww... *heart*

That's probably 'why' your uncles haven't done anything about it (i.e. talking to your dad about his young-fling girlfriend).

You right now are at an age where (in brain science even), you are individuating FROM your father, your ways of being brought up.

Yep!! Saturn Square Saturn .. it helps you to DECIDE what YOU want with your own life.

Sometimes it can be 'the same' and not change your values??.. but it will be YOUR values, and not just-because it's what your dad wanted, or your friends you grew up with.

*~ It warmed my heart very much when you said your mom was an astrologer! And the two of you were soooo close! aww. Gave you that Moon locket..
You have 3 planets in Cancer (Sun-Mercury, and The Moon)!! Wow.
You know, all that 'action' going on in Capricorn is across from your Cancer House.

This upcoming weekend and the whole of next week may be interesting, edgy, tough, emotional, yet fascinatingly inspiring (if you just "allow" the energy to "flow" with it). You've got a grand cardinal square working right now...

Do you ever like watching the video horoscopers??

I'd recommend Michelle Knight UK vids for you.
She's a GORGEOUS soul, inside and out.
Try her out?

- http://www.youtube.com/user/micheleknightpsychic

What sign was your Mom?

posted January 12, 2019 10:51 AM            

After I finished that post (above), I wanted to share with you that in my OWN life, I've had relationships with much-older men in several parts of my life.

It was very natural.. In those cases, I had been working or relating with them in similar interests.

It was flattering that they were interested in me. I have not been "a dater" in my past, in the same way that groups of people go out and party with a variety of people. (I'm kind of a more-serious kind of philosophical-type person-- with a big sense of humor).

So this morning, all the 'older' guys I'd been out with were flipping through the pages of my mind.

I never had stopped to think about what 'other' people thought about the spring-fall/winter relationships? .. Maybe my friend-group was respectful and kind about it. Even some having put their blessing on it.

So strange when you get older.. Your mind can "still" feel multi-decades younger!

I have my Saturn-rx Scorpio in the 11th House. (Across from Venus Taurus in the 5th.)

In circles, when younger, I usually hung out with people at least 5-6 years older than I was.

The first guy I married was 3-4 years younger than I was! Definitely had a different vibe for me. We were together around 7 years.

The first 'serious' and close relationship I had had was with someone ~15 years older than I was. (From my teen years until I was around 24.) I didn't "feel" age. .. Maybe because I was an old-soul?

I don't know about the ACTUAL personality and "character" of YOUR dad (in-particular). I tend to trust the person (you) who is relating the stories.

I was never a gold-digger type. I related to people according how smart and interesting they were??? (I guess. Gemini DESC! haha) Somehow, I had always had an inner-sense of being independently wealthy, no matter what age or circumstance of life I've found myself in.

What I do want to say is that I saw your dad's Saturn-Jupiter Capricorn at e.o. 11th/and in the 12th, in "square"-aspect to his Aries Venus, I thought of how that can lead to relationships to older/younger people. Most of his 11th House is Capricorn (ruled by Saturn).

The tUranus on his Venus Aries,
quoting Robert Hand, Planets in Transit..
"The effects of this transit are often quite spectacular. You are likely to seek new freedom and excitement through your relationships, especially those with the opposite sex.
You may even decide to break away from an old, steady marriage or other relatioshhip, and seek a second-youth, through a 'new affair.
.. futher down the page of this book ..
"Make no permanent plans in such a relationship, until after this transit is over."

And so...
Using a detached compassionate viewpoint, this might be a life-infusing 2nd-chance, 'healing' kind of relationship. (Said without my knowing his REAL character.)

Anyway again. I hope you are well. Thank you for your prayers and patience for the peak health symptoms I'd been having. (Triggered by my environment mostly.)

posted January 15, 2019 02:49 AM            

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I thought about you a lot yesterday *hugs*

I got this sensation that the fact I was able to shout for help and receive help is a good sign. At first, I couldn't shout, then I regained my courage and shouted.

I really want my energies to get healthy tbh. I had written a long (and rude, sorry) post on "Women who hate men" thread as I'm one of them. If you're interested,
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/007730-3.html

My losses are as follows:
1989- Maternal grandpa (I never met him )
2013- Maternal grandma
2014- My mom
2017- Paternal grandmother
2018- Paternal grandfather

I was really affected by mother's death and to a lesser extent my grandma's death. I didn't cry at the funeral and later I was trying to summon ghosts just to speak to my mother.

I wasn't really close to my paternal grandparents as they treated my mother very badly so when they passed away, all I could think was "Good riddance". They never loved me even when I last visited them in Jan 2016 and Jan 2017. I was given 'the looks'.

Yes, you're right. My childhood has been taken away (by 5th house retrograde Pluto I think). I lived quite mysteriously (never played with kids, never went out and studied obsessively). I don't even remember doing anything else except studying. I travelled a lot too.

You're really spot on with my father's unemployment. He got employed in 2012 for 3 months (6-May to 14-July). The employer still wants to employ him but he doesn't want to go. I'm pretty bad with transits (except my own) but that conjunction is scary. It's like the whole universe is against his employment.

He's scared of his Saturn return though. Considering he has natal Jupiter there, it's going to be big.

And his fling, I understand what you mean .
I would've supported him if he did it morally. He has many girlfriends and it just looks like he considers women as objects tbh. Transit Uranus is messing with his brain, I told him "Don't let Uranus make the decision for you, it could be painful". He ignored me.

You're very spot on with "I wonder if this is the way of overcoming grief?" He told me the same thing when we fought yesterday! I immediately thought of you and you were on my mind all the time yesterday. I was reading your post when we started fighting and I ended up messaging his elder brother.

He called him as soon as he left the home. His elder brother is Scorpio Sun Capricorn Moon and he can make my father cry in a jiffy with his razor sharp tongue. He was waiting for my father to go outside so that he could 'sting'. Woah Scorpio *giggles*

He told me my father played the 'Victim Card' making excuses like I don't help him in the house and I don't listen to him.

He called him again and I don't know what he is going to say today because he got really angry yesterday when I told him he was making lame excuses. He said he's against what my father is doing.

My father made it very clear in a Pisces way that "he won't be there for me emotionally" on 29 October 2018.

Saturn square Saturn is basically making me realize and removing all the delusions from my life. I end up using the word "delusional" many times a day myself lol.

I was very close to her and I try my best to live happily, just as she wanted me to

She was Leo stellium in first house and Taurus Moon.

posted January 15, 2019 04:04 AM            

And the last stroke of brush on my face left a black shimmer. Totally black just like the night sky (dark universe), very dark (and very Plutonian I think) with very small shimmer particles, I was about to call my mother to show her and I woke up.
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How does it relate to my real life?

HADES and PERSEPHONE irl lol (Idk what to think)

I always attract obsessive people (Plutonians tbh) somehow, friends and lovers-to-be.

There was a guy in my neighborhood (let's name him Harry born 10 Oct 1993) who went to the same school as me just 3 years older. I first met him on 11 June 2008 (I was 11 lol) and he was 14. Pluto had just transitioned in my 6th house. I remember the date because it was the school reopening and a new dark anime ("Shounen Onmiyoji- The young spirit master" is the name lol) was going to start and I felt bad I missed it because of school.

I had been to his house in Feb 2005 when they just shifted and we were looking for interior designers for our house and that man offered to show us Harry's house while he was standing in front of us lol.

His father tried to speak to my parents many times but they were strangers and we didn't respond. As a child, I went to his family's business many times because it was nearer to my previous school.

He was practically crazy about me and it became the talk of the school and my neighborhood. The teachers didn't accept our actions even though I did nothing. I never spoke to him except greetings in front of my parents.

His stare! OMG even my mom acknowledged it. He used to stare unabashedly at me no matter who was in front of him lol. I was so innocent that I had no idea what that stare meant! She probably sensed he was a Plutonian and smiled when she saw his chart. I had no knowledge of astrology at that time and it was very puzzling lol.

He would basically beat up any boy who tried to interact with me. The first time I spoke with him was a stupid fight for seat in a bus lol. He wanted me to get up and sit somewhere else and I got angry saying "You've got some guts asking me to get up". The thing was he wanted to sit in front of his sister who is younger than me by 1 year. He took the situation calmly and asked another guy to shift and asked me to sit there and I agreed.

We went to his house many times because his mother invited us on religious festivities once a year, his mom invited my dad out of the blue and our families weren't even acquainted. It finally ended or so I thought lol. From 2008 to 2012. He is Libra Sun Cancer Moon Scorpio Pluto, Mercury and Mars (not conjunct) and Virgo Venus. His parents still stalk me sometimes lol.

I still have no feelings for him and my mom LOVES him and would LOVE to see me get married to him lol. My father is against him but would do whatever I wish.

His parents came for 'walks' around my house this Jan. Very suspicious, if you ask me because they never come this side.

The thing is everyone, including my mom, thought we're in a relationship but we're not. In other words, although Persephone lost her innocence, I didn't and the whole world thinks we've had sex a million times lol.

In a few years, Pluto will transit my 7th house and I think I'm going to get stalked again.
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My best friend born 19 Oct 1995 (the one I made out with) is Libra Sun Leo Moon Virgo ascendant with Venus, Mars and Pluto conjunct in Scorpio and she's obsessed with me. She's very sweet and caring but will fight with me if I don't study lol.

My Uranian self was scared at the intensity of her actions and she literally pleaded to be her friend. I feel so bad about it sometimes and we've been going great all these years! It is a very transforming friendship. She helped me and still helps me in a million ways and I'm grateful. *Heart*

Fun fact: she has the same birthday as Harry's younger sister: 19 Oct 1997 lol

Let me know if you want charts Idk their times except my bestie

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You're always in my prayers!

posted January 20, 2019 12:50 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Hope this finds you doing well!! ..
I'm sooo glad you had a dream with your Mom in it.
Have a meaningful, personally-productive, 0-LEO Total FM Eclipse on Jan 20/21!
{{*hugs!!*}} .. and Peace.

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So nice to hear from you *hugs*

I'm doing well… got a huge boost from my mom

I hope it isn't too cold there, it's a bit warmer here… hoping the same there

I was wondering what do you think about the dream?

Happy full moon to you!
I watched the last lunar eclipse last year… this one isn't visible so I'll watch online