posted December 18, 2018 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i feel like there's so much anger here this has to be a joke, but in case it isn't well **** ...i mean half your points are really outdated (what country you in? can't be the us) and then a lot of them seem off aside from it just generally speaking
do you have a very rigid religion or something as well?
it seems like you probably give guys reason to regret talking to you and that's why it doesn't go anywhere no offense, just can't imagine this much hostility and such going over well
i know i'd probably instantly regret it if i walked up to a woman and got that sort of response
but to address your points
1 the current framework of society also negatively affects men not just women
men are taught to not take care of themselves, not have emotion, not develop deep intimate relationships etc
i'm not downing the struggle of women here, that's a thing too, i'm just saying that the failings of society and civilization aren't strictly women's issues and your average man is going to have experienced damage too
everyone has their weight to carry when **** 's like that
as for the name thing, that's not every guy
my fiancee and i have actually discussed that and since my father and i have no relationship and her father mattered a lot to her and was like a second father to me when we were younger i'd actually take her last name instead
2 this is pretty subjective, depends on what you value, and isn't much of a reason to hate someone
3 there's definitely double standards and the dieting thing is just an example of how little men are taught about health
a lot of food that's targeted towards men is absolutely terrible no it might not be an extreme diet but it's ****** all the same
and as far as a double standard where women are better off men are forced to crush their emotions as children and are forced to be emotionally stunted
4 that's biology, no one's fault, not worth hating someone else over
5 there's no such thing as freedom outside of your own head, everyone is restricted
6 there are plenty of men who don't have a superiority complex, and often the ones who do are very much removed from women in their lives or have a hard time seeing outside of the sort of toxic ******** that society instills
7 has no bearing on gender, at least not in most cases
8 im assuming this is more traditions you're used to rather than how a lot of people's lives work
9 men might be able to sleep around more freely, but they're not able to express any alternative sexualities as freely as women are
women are often given a free pass for experimentation to a certain extent, this isn't given to men generally speaking
10 that's not all guys, i definitely do not like having body hair it makes me feel unclean
11 you don't have to have kids and men didn't create the female anatomy
12 domestic violence is ****** , no way around that but it's interesting to note that men are far less likely to report abuse or seek help
also lesbians have the highest incidence of domestic violence statistically, which is pretty ironic because yes a woman is getting hurt but it's by another woman
13 not everyone gives a **** about the virgin thing
14 everyone should know how to cook and do household chores regardless of gender, and plenty of people do
i cook for my fiancee and clean and do her laundry along with mine it's not that big of a deal
part of being in a relationship is being in a team, and part of being alive is knowing how to take care of yourself and your things and that's what cooking and household chores are
15 depends on your inlaws, my family loves my fiancee her mother is weird about me me and has spent years doing all kinds of ****** up **** when it comes to me (including and not limited to touching me and sexual advances and trying to break my fiancee and i up)
16 i've never heard of women being pressured to like pregnancy or pain, but i guess i wouldn't know that just doesn't sound like a thing and my fiancee's never mentioned it
the pressure to marry and not be single is on men and women and plenty of guys hear that **** too
17 if someone's pretty people are going to look, it's nothing to get angry about
it sounds a lot like you're just really uncomfortable with yourself and being a woman and are just angry
i mean i could be wrong i guess i don't know your religion or country, but outside of that environment things aren't like that to such an extent
it's just some of your complaints boil down to biology that can't be helped and has nothing to do with the men you hate
also you going out of your way to not dress well tells me a lot too, there seems to be more of an issue internally than anything having to do with men in general
Well it's not a joke at all. I mean I ha e hated men all my life!
I'm Asian and we have a very rigid religion and patriarchal Orthodox mentality. Boys are practically worshipped here.
1) Men can do whatever they want in my country. Once, a boy threw his plate while cursing just because he didn't like the food made and no one said a thing!
3) Glad we agree about double standards. Men can show their emotions here. Look at my point 1
4) I'm being jealous because Nature is unjust with women.
5) Men in my country aren't. They can drink alcohol but women can't.
6) The men who don't have superiority complex are regarded as mules here (it's insane!)
7) In my country, there is.
8) Yeah… my country is pretty backward so yes.
9) Lol most people don't even know what LGBTQ is! They think it's different genders altogether XD I have seen so many places in my own country but I have never seen a single gay man (I have seen some women so).
It's a sick society. Sex with a women shows prowess over the female kind.
10) Having huge beard and tons of body hair is seen masculine here. People don't know that even men can have Hirsutism and I'm sure many of those men are hirsute.
11) Females are pressurized to have kids. I never said men created the female anatomy. Like I said, I'm being jealous that makes are simply exempt of the pain.
12) Domestic violence is widely accepted here and I have never heard any wife beating up a man… she won't dare imo
Oh! I wasn't aware about the lesbian domestic violence thingy… so scary.
13) We have a 'white bedsheet' system here and if there's no blood after the night, she will be tortured her whole life! If there is, she will be worshipped. There's no such thing for men.
14) I have the same opinion. If a man cooks food or does other household chores, people look down on him. It's not considered masculine etc.
If what you're saying is true, then I honestly salute you for treating women as equals. I'm so happy to have had a conversation with such a gentleman! Hope you have a happy married life! 
15) In-laws are scary TBH. So sorry to hear your bad experiences with them. Brides are burnt alive here if they don't get enough dowry.
16) Women are. If she says she doesn't like the pain etc. She is looked down upon. Men are not pressurized to marry, because they usually marry (I told you it's a sick society)
17) They look at weird places (I hope you understand… ) and it's really uncomfortable having men look with lusty eyes.
Well, it's a traditional society so I'm uncomfortable. Most men don't love women, they just flirt around, date and dump them. Later, they blackmail their ex girlfriends that they'll show the world that you dated him etc etc
I dress up like to avoid getting attention. I don't want men staring at weird places. I don't want to do anything with those who feel men are above women.
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