posted February 15, 2003 05:27 PM              

Harpyr, oh no, I did not take what you wrote as an attack on my opinion. : ) When I posted my observations about the different networks, they were strictly that, my own observations, and right after that, I happened to catch Chris Mathews of Hardball at the U of Miami with Goldberg and his new book Bias and they pretty much discussed the very things I observed. And what you pointed out about the corporate interests of the owners was also discussed. Interesting. Scary, too.

Now, for a little Astrology of these events. Mars is in the first house of the U.S.A. chart the whole month of Feb and opposes it's natal Mars on the 20th. So, the Warrior persona seems to be rearing its head a bit. Right now there is a Mars/Pluto conjunction, a Sun/Uranus conjunction, plus a Full Moon on the 16th in Leo, plus, there is a Jupiter/Neptune opposition. This all results in protests with a cause. Big crowds. Aquarian ideals, the collective good of all humanity. But, with the planets in Sagittarius (Mars/Pluto) trining Leo Jupiter, it could mean that one is pretty convinced that his/her view is the right view, and other views are wrong.

Alena, good question, do you have any ideas?

posted February 15, 2003 08:17 PM              

Full Moon at 27.53 Leo
Sabian Symbol:
Many little birds on a limb of a big tree; a wide, and perhaps confusing,
openness to a multiplicity of inspiring potentialities.

Hi Cat!!

posted February 16, 2003 01:02 PM              

People like to glamourize themselves and their movement when protesting war because of Vietnam and it's glamourization of the "hippie"... lol, hippies stink!

This is a global village we live in y'all, soon coming to be just "country Earth"...
we are so interconnected now that anything that occurs anywhere in the world will have an affect on us no matter where you live.

My personal opinion is that for the world to "evolve" into a environment where war is a thing of the past, the focus for the present in strictly humanitarian, and the future holds the end of human suffering & oppression; We have to first address all threats to the stability of the world.

My two cents,

posted February 16, 2003 11:24 PM            

Those threats you mentioned are like weeds that spread underground. If you don't pull them when they first pop up, the job only gets harder as they multiply.

posted February 17, 2003 04:33 AM            

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Weird, you and your communist buddies have not an ounce of compassion. You would stand idly by while Saddam builds his weapons systems, uses them against his citizens, his neighbors, Israel, or hands off some suitcases stuffed with vials of chemical or biological weapons to terrorists...

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..that could kill hundreds of thousands of Americans or Europeans.

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Biological agents that could just as likely kill his friends as well as enemies. A biological attack would almost certainly lead to a full scale retailation that he would not survive. Intelligence agents have said they do not think it likely that Saddam would use WMD unless he was backed into a corner by something... like, oh I don't know, a pre-emptive strike? Another juicy tidbit from the intelligence community is that there are far greater threats than Saddam right now, like that loon in N.Korea amongst others..

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You remind me of the "not so good Samaritan" who would walk by a woman being robbed, raped or murdered..

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When the bombs start to fall, they will fall on military installations and Iraqi troop concentrations.

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I perceive you have not one clue as to why radical Islam is urging on the terrorists to act against the civilized nations. First, under their twisted reading of the Koran, we are all infidels and all infidels can be killed for no other reason than they are infidels.

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Second we support the right of Israel to exist on their ancient homeland.

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posted February 17, 2003 04:34 AM            

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.. how can people who are not communists themselves fall in with communists and promote their aims, which is the destruction of representative government everywhere?
....you don't see any fraud or irony in the communists being behind a peace and compassion movement? These are the people who put up walls to keep their citizens in, who have systematically killed 200 million of their own citizens in the Soviet Union, China, North Viet Nam and North Korea just for disagreeing with their government. North Korea is in the process of starving their citizens to death, more than a million so far and China, imprisons or executes their citizens who disagree or attempt to practice their religious beliefs.

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• By 1998, the richest 1% had as much combined income as the poorest 100 million Americans.

• Top 1/5 of households have 49.2% of total national income while the bottom 1/5 gets by one only 3.6%

• From 1979 to 1997, the take home income for the top 1%, adjusted for inflation, rose 157% or $414,000. For the middle fifth, a 10% gain ($3,400)and the bottom fifth remained stagnant.

• The three richest people in the world have wealth equal to the combined GDP of the 48 poorest nations. (year 2000 figures)

• Worldwide, the richest 20% of the population consumes 80% of the resources while the poorest 20% survive on 1.4%.
  

OH and if you think the 'American Dream' is a reality, there are some facts that might refute that thought.. We don't generally move around the classes too much..People born poor generally stay poor and the rich don't usually let outsiders in.
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• In 1865, the African American population owned 0.5% of the nation's net worth. By 1990, that figure was up to 1%.
  

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I have to say weird, from my perspective, you're either a communist or an idiot.

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As for how we should deal with threats? I'm not Christian but there are some eternal truths to be found in the Bible.
"If your enemies are hungry, feed them. Romans 12:20

posted February 17, 2003 07:58 AM              

Id really much rather think I want to kick over the current system because, quite bluntly, it's just a big pile of rubbish thats' only stable because its just had things shoved onto it over the years.

posted February 18, 2003 12:20 PM              

But give me a break on the hating the whole system thing, all of you! Come on it's easy to b*tch, hard to do something about it. You all are products of this system and you don't even realize how good you got it!

posted February 18, 2003 12:42 PM              

I was through whinging about the way things are last year, now I *know* its crap

posted February 18, 2003 11:30 PM              

I just moved out from what FELT like a dictatorship! I am not going back to one..

OK sorry just trying to lighten this up a bit..

posted February 19, 2003 12:09 AM            

Notice you didn't get an answer from the antiwar crowd? Don't hold your breath.

No one really wants war but they can't give you one viable alternative that removes Saddam's chemical and biological weapons and safeguards Iraqi citizens from his murderous regime.

posted March 15, 2003 04:04 PM              

The voice of the people...
See the people elect officials that have more intelligence, much more education(at a higher level too), & more skill to deal with matters as complex as this one FOR THEM.

"The people" aren't experts & most of the time are VERY ignorant