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Topic: WAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Alena unregistered
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posted March 21, 2003 11:19 AM
Donna, I know...it is really sad. Heard a marine was shot and killed in combat too. Also heard that some of the Iraqis that surrendered helped us rip down some of the large Stalin like portraits of Saddam.IP: Logged |
1scorp unregistered
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posted March 21, 2003 11:23 AM
My Firm opinion is plainly posted on another thread (how will we know) for all to see IP: Logged |
Lost Leo unregistered
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posted March 21, 2003 11:25 AM
LOL Carlo, so pettyRRR & all, you can plagiarize an idea or a viewpoint if you can't come up with your own, lol... IP: Logged |
1scorp unregistered
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posted March 21, 2003 03:01 PM
Saw on CNN that a peace rally went wrong... ended in death, threats and assualts.I know, I know it's based from a news station, but that's what's going on. IP: Logged |
Lost Leo unregistered
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posted March 21, 2003 06:42 PM
Recently I've been taught an explanation for this doctrine & I'd like to share it: (I first posted this in another thread but wanted to share w/ as many as possible, maybe spread a little hope) Fukiyama (plagiarizer of Hegel), "It is the end of history, The battle of the ideologies is over. Liberal Democracy has won over communism(Cold War) & fascism(WWII)" Nations, being Asian, Western or Eastern European, or North or South American (& even Africa once they stabilize) have all started to liberalize their economies & governments in hopes of interconnecting the world & globalizing, which would hopefully raise the bar for standard of living in all third world countries (still theory & still debatable, but so far the theory is working). Now Rumsfield, probably the staunchest conservative in the government has expressed this ideal since the 80s to liberalize gov'ts when the opportunity presents itself. Right now they are seeing an opportunity to have this dream realized & possibility the reverse of the "domino theory" of the Cold War will occur. Instead of one democratic gov't falling causing more to fall, one more liberal democratic government rises & then more follow. Liberalization includes the advocation of a state governed by the people, a gov't elected by the people, & an economy of free trade without government actors that exploit their country's natural resources for their own gain. Essentially liberalize control over economy which spreads the wealth of a country's natural resources among the people. What Rumsfield, Bush, & the Western gov'ts are genuinely attempted to do is integrate the world as one liberlized democracy & economy where all countries are interconnected & eventually the sovereignty of the "nation-state" (even the USA) yields the a higher int'l authority following the rules of economic prosperity for example: (Which I'll post later) Destruction of Islamic fundamentalists, War on terrorism, search for oil, disarmament of Iraq, are all faulty reasons to advocate the one greater ideal, that has quite a vision for the future. But one of positivity & a collective prosperity for the world. I'm sure there are a million & a half arguments to demonize the US & our gov'ts & their political actors which would make this idea seem futile. But I just wanted to present this vision of the future so people may at least know of it & consider it. I mean THERE IS a h*e*ll of a lot the governments of the world do not tell the people of the world what their true goals are, they are REALLY EDUCATED & STUDIED in these matters & it wouldn't be too bad to... just for a moment... Consider maybe they do have a plan for the future & these pithy events are simply stepping stones to its realization??? IP: Logged |
RubyRedRam unregistered
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posted March 21, 2003 09:05 PM
No, wrong LL. To plagiarise is to submit someones work as you own. Go look it up in the dictionary!! Simply supplying people with an article in order to share something of interest with other people is by no means and never will be plagiarism. I don't think Carlo is being petty either seeing you are always attacking him in the most un-knowflake way IP: Logged |
Alena unregistered
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posted March 21, 2003 09:19 PM
sigh, I think the point is not to only post articles about your beliefs but to also say them in your own words.IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 22, 2003 01:21 AM
Alena Bingo, someone who doesn't really understand the issues and has to resort to quoting someone else's thoughts probably isn't to be taken seriously. There is no shortage of people who will tell you what to think. jwhop IP: Logged |
RubyRedRam unregistered
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posted March 22, 2003 02:09 AM
- someone who doesn't really understand the issues and has to resort to quoting someone else's thoughts probably isn't to be taken seriously - This is still not Plagiarism. IP: Logged |
Carlo unregistered
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posted March 22, 2003 11:46 AM
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Harpyr Newflake Posts: 0 From: Alaska Registered: Jun 2010
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posted March 22, 2003 12:50 PM
Carlo! IP: Logged |
Lost Leo unregistered
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posted March 23, 2003 10:17 PM
And you told me to look it up in the dictionary... right?1) To USE and PASS OFF (the IDEAS or WRITINGS of another) as one's own. 2) To appropriate for USE AS ONE'S OWN PASSAGES or IDEAS from (another). http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=plagiarize IP: Logged |
jjjax unregistered
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posted March 23, 2003 11:04 PM
Lost Leo, I don’t understand who you think is plagiarising? I don’t see anyone trying to use someone else writings and pass it off as there own? As long as a body of writing has been referenced there is no plagiarism.
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Lost Leo unregistered
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posted March 24, 2003 01:13 AM
Just a conflict of opinion on a definition, had to clear it up, that's all IP: Logged |
RubyRedRam unregistered
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posted March 24, 2003 02:13 AM
Ok, fine...that is NOT what Carlo is doing. quote: To USE and PASS OFF (the IDEAS or WRITINGS of another) as one's own.
Not what he's doing as he doesn't say it is his work. quote: To appropriate for USE AS ONE'S OWN PASSAGES or IDEAS from (another).
He does not use passages or ideas from other people as his own.Now, the reason I am defending this is because you used a term out of context which implied Carlo was plagiarising. That is incorrect and you should not mislead people into that assumption. IP: Logged |
theFajita3 unregistered
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posted March 24, 2003 02:24 AM
------------------ food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |
Lost Leo unregistered
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posted March 24, 2003 11:29 AM
That's your opinion, I agree to disagree, by any reputable scholar or within any academic institution it would be seen as plagiarism. But... whatever, I'm over it now,I think enough fire has been turned up in these threads already, justified or not... lol Silly Ram, don't you realize it's your karmic mission to learn lessons from me...? j/k IP: Logged |
jjjax unregistered
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posted March 24, 2003 06:47 PM
From within an academic insitution (my own from which i am graduating on the 1st of may... yay!) 5.1.4 Plagiarism The University is committed to quality academic research and scholarship and the rights and responsibilities of staff and students in upholding these standards. The University encourages good scholarship and supports the rights of a scholar's ownership of their ideas and research – their intellectual property. Good scholarship requires knowledge of current thought and research in a field of study in order to develop one's own ideas. The authors who have developed this knowledge and research deserve the right to have their work acknowledged. Without this acknowledgement, such practices are the equivalent of stealing. Acts of plagiarism may occur deliberately or inadvertently. The University views inadvertent plagiarism as an opportunity to educate students about the appropriate academic conventions in their field of study. The University views a deliberate act of plagiarism as a serious breach of academic standards of behaviour for which severe penalties will be imposed. The University undertakes the responsibility to ensure that students are made aware of accepted academic conventions in their field/s of study and the consequences of failing to follow these conventions. It is the responsibility of students to learn academic conventions appropriate to their field and to acknowledge the intellectual property of others. Plagiarism Plagiarism involves submitting or presenting work in a course as if it were the student's own work done expressly for that particular unit when, in fact, it was not. Most commonly, plagiarism exists when: * the work submitted or presented was done, in whole or in part, by an individual other than the one submitting or presenting the work * parts of the work are taken from another source without reference to the original author; or * the whole work, such as an essay, is copied from another source. Plagiarism refers not only to academic writing, but also to other forms of presentation for assessment such as performance, design, composition, electronic media, etc.
Inadvertent plagiarism An incident of plagiarism by a student that occurs through inappropriate application or use of material without reference to the original source or author. It is clear that the student did not have the intention to deceive. Deliberate plagiarism An incident of plagiarism by a student who has the intention to deceive. * University of Western Sydney, 2003, UWS Student Misconduct, [Online]: http://sites.uws.edu.au/uws/policies/ppm/doc/000051.html#5.1.4
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N_wEvil unregistered
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posted March 24, 2003 06:57 PM
this thread..
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RubyRedRam unregistered
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posted March 24, 2003 07:50 PM
Hmm fine I will agree to disagree, I'm no scholor mate but I have plenty of common sense. I learn from the school of life. IP: Logged | |