posted March 29, 2003 11:51 PM              

Anyway, I must also say that Randall is quite admirable for his ability to keep his political opinions in, and still tolerate people like me afterwards And I have a load of planets in Scorpio for those of you who are interestd in tracking the astrology of political debates.

posted March 31, 2003 03:06 PM              

But these events & the situation of the globe has pushed me far to the right because, right now, I believe America needs strong leadership, at home & abroad, in this period that is now dubbed in my brother's 7th grade history book as, "The Age of Uncertainty." LOL which isn't all that far off.

But I could not identify as a conservative on the whole:

I am a adamant defender of a woman's Right to choose

As well as I question the tax cuts Republicans push & their embeddedness in industry interests.

Also with my tuition DOUBLING because of the damn California Bureaucrats, & my friends who teach losing their jobs, I think we need to evolve our healthcare & education system to the next level... I mean it's TERRIBLE out here in California.

posted March 31, 2003 06:13 PM              

:-/

posted March 31, 2003 07:13 PM              

LOOK ENOUGH NAZI COMPARISONS YOU PEOPLE!

GEORGE BUSH IS NOT GOING TO ETHNICALLY CLEANSE THE UNITED STATES OR COMMIT GENOCIDE IN A FOREIGN LAND!

GET A FRICKEN LIFE!

Seriously, twisted any little detail into a similarity with Nazi Germany is pathetic attempt at a decent argument...

posted March 31, 2003 07:16 PM              

It wasn't an argument about anything; it was just my gut reaction upon seeing your comment.

posted April 01, 2003 12:42 AM              

Go earn some validity!

Aw, Fajita. That hurts.
Right here.
>points to heart<

posted April 01, 2003 02:47 AM              

Please re-read what Randall said.

Prox, Aqua is right I value your opinions and your intellect as well as the love and kindness you bring to Lindaland. Please don't be upset.

While I can't speak for Danita I dare say she was agreeing with Lost Leo about what oxychick posted

quote:

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I'll try to keep my criticism to their argument & not their person

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Note the hurtful stuff he wrote above it.

*hugs to Prox

posted April 01, 2003 06:06 PM              

I find it difficult to respect any argument that comes across like a kid saying, "neener, neener, neener" which is what MOST, not all, of the anti-war crowd arguments are in these forums... it seems they just don't understand what a solid argument is, or how a rebuttle should be formed

We say, "The US is protecting itself from terrorism"

They answer, "Bush's grandpa helped the Nazi's"

We say, "If not forced compliance, then how should we solve this problem with Saddam?"

They answer, "War is tragic if one civilian dies"

We say, "Historical facts dating back to WWII present a strong correlational to how Europe appeased Hitler's Germany & how the UN is appeasing Saddam's Iraq"

They answer, "Bush is a Nazi; Bush is Hitler, because he said a couple words that, out of context, can be loosely twisted into speeches Hitler made"

I'm just realizing this just isn't the most leveled place to debate politics;
too many ignorant opinions, not enough policy solutions, an extreme lack of factual premises, & biased reporting posted as fact to support a poor argument.

All & all though, I have faith. Faith in my interpretation & understanding of the facts thru my daily studies. More importantly, I have faith in our country, despite the envy & fear the world bases its US policy on...

Doesn't seem like too many in here have faith, but watch & learn...
They'll be a million "I told you so's" that I'll neglect to say...

posted April 01, 2003 07:53 PM              

Hey, people like myself appreciate someone like you

I'm not that great in politics and never claimed to be. So therefore, you're speaking for me also Yes... before you say it... I DO have opinions... you just seem to reflect them pretty well.

posted April 01, 2003 09:58 PM            

I only have this to say about this war. For thousands of years blood has spilled onto the land that is now Iraq. This land, once a part of a great and vast empire, held the city of Babylon, that suffered a terrible fate. Just as our cities here, suffered a terrible fate, on 9/11, the day someone decided to rain fire from the skies, such as a Sodom and Gommorah, and bring terror to our country. Today, my cousin, Jay, shipped out to Iraq to protect me, and my family...to protect each and every one of you. I support Jay and his loyality to this country. I support all troops that are overseas at this time, fulfilling their orders as best as they can.

However, the other morning, after having a restless night, I awoke with terrible thoughts and sounds in my head. I had what I believe to have been some sort of vision...and this vision was of a soldier, laying in the sand, with his helmet on. Blood trickled down the side of his face and it fell to the hot sand. This droplet of blood began to spread, all over the sand, and voices began to wail and to cry. I heard the blood of slain peoples and civilizations crying out...and it was horrifying.

I am left, with a horror and terrifying feeling about our forces entering Baghdad...and about this whole incident. I will not go and rally against our country or our troops or pro-war supporters...but I cannot sit here and say that I support our President's choice to go forward without the backing of the UN..because I don't.

And I fear so much more blood to cry out from that land over there...before this is all over, I predict you will hear, what I did.

posted April 02, 2003 01:34 AM              

Let me say this first, regarding War vs Peace, its something that can attract the "half-full vs half-empty" arguments, and therefore something which I do not wish to get involved with the current planet transits However, I'd like to remind you all of something important and which too many seem to have forgotten!

Don't you realize that all these over-heated debates were caused by the planet transits?? FREEWILL!! FREEWILL is the Key to your overcoming all these planetary evils. Aren't you all going for enlightenment? Act!!!

posted April 02, 2003 10:50 AM              

Keep backing the troops**, they need us more than we know.

My little sister is just outside Baghdad as we speak. She's not a fighter, she's with a communications battallion. I fear for her every day.

I know exactly what you are talking about in your vision. I think someone else close to the top of all this must have forseen the same thing you have. Why else could we cover the whole country in one big sweep - then sit right outside the city walls for a week? The foreboding is terrible.