posted April 17, 2003 11:12 AM            

Interesting that the author of the following story identified one of the groups that would be most violently against dumping the heavy, progressive "income tax"
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/4/16/171608.shtml

posted April 17, 2003 05:10 PM              

As you'll see, most of these books are totally harmless. They were banned for reasons like,"They mention the devil and little kids shouldn't read about him!" Or if the book deals explicitly with sex, it might get banned in those few places that are still erotiphobic. Those old- fashioned mothballs.

posted April 17, 2003 06:35 PM            

There's quite a difference between a library or school system banning a book or books and a US Court banning the same.

So which of the books on the list you supplied a link to were banned by a Court or the United States Government? By the way, the Court isn't the US Government, only the lowest level of the US Court system, neither is the IRS or the Justice Dept the US Government, only parts.

I don't think there's a chance of Schiff's book ban being upheld on appeal from the District Court decision.

jwhop

posted April 17, 2003 11:32 PM            

Well, I guess it all depends on who the readership is intended to be as to whether a particular book should be banned. In the instance of the Government banning books, I would think they shouldn't be involved in that exercise.

In the case of school districts and libraries, some sensitivity should be shown regarding the age of the intended readership and the content of the book, in spite of what the National Association of Librarians thinks.

But hey, when I was going to school, Lady Chatterly's Lover was banned from the school library. I know because I asked the librarian for the book and shocked her.
Later when I actually read the book, I couldn't figure out what all the fuss was about it.

posted April 18, 2003 02:11 PM            

I never tried to check out "Catcher in the Rye" or "God's Little Acre". Guess the titles weren't racy enough but you know the old admonition, "never judge a book by it's cover"

posted April 18, 2003 03:21 PM              

Of course parents have the right to do that kind of thing if they think it necessary to protect their child. Lower school libraries can too, but by the time the kids are in high- school, I think they (we) are ready to read almost anything. We're young adults. If you deny us sonething, we'll just find a way to sneak it behind your backs!

posted April 18, 2003 04:20 PM            

That's sad. My parents were pretty easy going with books and what I read. I read anything I could get my hands on and when I was a kid, I couldn't wait to learn how to read. I was almost 4 years old when I just had to find out what all the adults were reading in the newspapers..LOL I would look at the comic strip and just NEED to KNOW what the message was.

So, that was the beginning of my nerdquest!! I went from comics to Nancy Drew books to Judy Blume and anything related to animals, science or mystery. My mom bought me the book "Forever" by Judy Blume and I had that read in a day. Boy, she was a little unnerved about that since her friend told her it was all about teenagers having sex for the first time. I was about 12 or 13 when I read it. She came into my room to get it back and I said "Sure, you can

<------yep that was her expression!!!

posted April 18, 2003 04:30 PM              

Hmmm, I didn't know Judy Blume wrote books on kids having sex for the first time.... if I only knew...

posted April 29, 2003 05:36 PM            

The ads clearly informed the faculty and students about Schiff¹s offer to pay a $50,000 "finders fee" to anyone who could produce a law, at any of his scheduled lectures, that requires "Anyone To Pay Income Taxes."

Apart from Mr. Schiff¹s two general campus lectures on Thursday, January 25, 2001, he lectured for three hours at the Law School on Friday, January 26, 2001 from 9:00 AM to 1:30 PM. No law professor or law student appeared at any of Mr. Schiff¹s appearances to claim the $50,000 reward.

Obviously, there are law professors at that Law School who teach that there are laws requiring Americans to pay income taxes who will be turning out tax lawyers who will tell the American public the same thing. However, when Mr. Schiff confronted them on their own turf to produce any such "law" (and for $50,000 no less) they failed to do so.

The failure of law professors and law students at Toledo University to come forward with any such law when offered $50,000 by Irwin Schiff to do so - when the offer was widely publicized on campus (both in the College newspaper and in hundreds of flyers distributed around the campus) ­ demonstrates that no such law exists.

posted April 30, 2003 12:53 AM            

Absolutely telling that none of the law school professors decided to take Schiff on with his challenge. Seems like an easy 50 grand but only if those professors or anyone else can show where American citizens have any liability to file income tax returns. Irwin Schiff is a tough cookie

posted May 02, 2003 10:32 PM            

"None of the professors even showed up to challenge or debate him. But these same professors will surely teach that the law requires the filing of tax returns to their future tax lawyers! []"

Those tax law professors wouldn't want to put themselves out of a job

jwhop