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Isis
Newflake

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From: Brisbane, Australia
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posted May 06, 2004 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop pretty much said it all with regards to you. You would do your causes justice by just not speaking on those things you believe in unfortunately- there are many here who are better representatives of those ideas, who can present them in a coherent, non-innuendo laden manner. I would recommend you leave the debate to them.

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“The good things which belong to prosperity are to be wished, but the good things that belong to adversity are to be admired.” Seneca

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ozonefiller
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posted May 06, 2004 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In order words, Isis is stating to all in her last post that it is much better that all who feel any discomfort for the leadership and conditions of this country,should be better off going back in they're little corner and STFU and let her and Jwhop do all the thinking and speaking for you,for they're the ones that are more equipped in these things and it would be for our best interest that they're the ones that do all the thinking and speaking for us. For we all just don't know how to think or speak our feelings as well as they can.

Did I get that right Isis?

Where do you guys get all of your methods of persuasions from, Dr. Josef Mengele?

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Isis
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posted May 06, 2004 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, you did not get it right.

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ozonefiller
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posted May 06, 2004 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then I think that you need to explain further of what you trying to imply, maybe you need to reread your post then,because you seem to understand my post better then you can understand your own.

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Isis
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posted May 06, 2004 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OZ, I'm finished with regards to you. My posts are direct, to the point, and leave little to infer. Perhaps we should heed Trillian's suggestion, and just stay out of each other's way.

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ozonefiller
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posted May 06, 2004 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isis, I'm not going to sit here and let you tell me what to do,no matter how subtle you make it,if I question it,it is usually for a very good reason. Haven't you realize that yet?

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Isis
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posted May 06, 2004 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again...Perhaps we should heed Trillian's suggestion, and just stay out of each other's way.

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juniperb
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posted May 06, 2004 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The lady is asking nice!

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If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot

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ozonefiller
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posted May 06, 2004 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So long as you stick to your part of the bargin Isis... then it's a DEUCE! OK?

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TINK
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posted May 06, 2004 11:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quite allright Isis. My misunderstanding. As usual, I was plagued by self-doubt and cautiously assumed you might mean me.

I hope my explanation to you sufficed.

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jwhop
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posted May 07, 2004 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Xelena Ben

You said this kind of statement drives you nuts.

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How strange that those who advise lightening up now were never around to caution those who were having a field day calling the President everything but a human.

However a review of the posts on this forum will reveal a really viscous string of personal attacks against the President. If you can, please point me to the post where someone of compassion and sympathy (liberals) ever suggested that calling the President names was over the top.

And that's the very reason some people here get fired on. Their attacks are personal attacks against the character and perceived personal characteristics of the President and not against his policy. It's made worse when most of what's said about the President are lies, the kind of lies disproven by time and events. Those attacks are hateful and hate filled and there's not one reason anyone, anywhere should expect to be exempt from a personal attack directed squarely at them when they've agreed to the principal by doing it themselves.

The difference between President Bush and Clinton is that the things said about Clinton were and are true, widely reported in major news outlets and therefore fair comment.

I don't know what I could possibly teach you Xelena Ben. You have a fine mind and will discover on your own whatever knowledge is important to you.

jwhop

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Harpyr
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posted May 07, 2004 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Allright jwhop, fair enough. I did go silent on that thread. I know that you and I have very different ideas about what constitutes a 'credible' source and admittedly I haven't yet gone through the effort of finding additional sources to support my position on the matters of that thread. I continue to stand by my position that much of Bush's policies on education, healthcare, etc. are little more than posturing.

I was thinking more specifically about the industrial agriculture thread I started. It's a topic I've been reading extensively about lately and I'm curious as to what your take on that situation is. You've been noticeably absent from that discussion.

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lioneye68
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posted May 07, 2004 03:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, no matter what's being discussed in here, it seems to become a heated arguement. Heck, you guys even argue about argueing. Maybe this forum should be called "The Fight Club"...lol

Besides, that....what good does sitting around moaning and groaning about the state of the world do? How does that help it?

If you want to see change in the world, BE the change in the world. It's all you really CAN do. Start with the dude (dudette) in the mirror. There's far too much hate in the world. Stop it from leaking out of YOURSELF. You can't stop it from leaking out of anyone else, but you CAN stop it from leaking out of yourself. (and down your leg, into your boot...sorry...I'll grow up now)

Tell me this...has there ever been a president that EVERYBODY loved unanimously?

For you folks who are anti-establishment by nature, (or nurture, as the case may be) has there ever been a president that you supported? Or ANY politician for that matter? Do you realize that the alternative to organized government is SELF-government? In a society made up a fairly large cross section of screwballs and dingbats, do you really think that's a viable alternative? Yeah, self-government is the very same thing as anarchy, which is on the same level as animals in the wild. Just surviving is a daily fight! No thanks.

As much as we love to hate them, we do need governments. If you don't like the job they're doing, become a politician and do it better. Can you imagine how hard it is to please everybody? Try running a day-home for a day, and you'll soon see how impossible it is to prevent unrest among the rank and file. You can only make decision on what's good for the majority. And, when it comes to long range goals, sometimes the end really does justify the means. People are so myopic sometimes. So lacking in long range perspective. Politicians are people. They are subject to all the same character flaws as normal folk. To demonize one, well that just takes a normal person and elevates them to mythical stature. They're just people, for pete sake. Some try a little harder to maintain a high level of intregity, and some are just boobs. Just like the people we know in real life. Like my neighbor. He falls into the 'boob' catagory.

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