posted October 19, 2004 11:11 PM              

my email: cassandra_cameron1981@yahoo.com

posted October 19, 2004 11:29 PM              

Let me clear some confusion. The Master is here because of a very specific Petition that I made and that my husband joined. When I made the Petition, I assumed the intervention that I requested would be in the form of pure energy input. I could never in my wildest imaginings think that the Master would "intervene" in such a direct fashion. To be more than honest and upfront, I have been torn between outright laughter and deep horror as this thread has played out. Laughter because I know my Master to be one who has infinate patience and infinate Love for all humanity and so, I see the manifestion of those Divine Names and my joy is so fundemental and so heart felt that I have laughed out loud with the abandon of a child.

Then when I hear and see the doubt and the insults played out (innocently or not), I am horrified. Many wish to benefit from a mere glance from one such as the Master, one who has been filled with the Divine Light of the One. He arrives here offering to answer your questions and, from this thread, it is clear that not many actually have questions but many have all sorts of judgements and opinions.

Finally, there are some here on Linda Land that know that they are in my thoughts and in my Heart...and only a few of them have sought to ask the questions in their own Hearts. Many are interested in either merely observing this thread from afar, or joining only to ridicule and jeer.

One final set of questions for all of you. What if you are wrong in your determination that this is not a "real" Master speaking? What if you are wrong? A serious question with serious consequences yes?

posted October 19, 2004 11:48 PM            

I am Blessed to have been gifted with the insight into Esalatewujud.

A question unasked, answered, is a gift of a single lifetime.

Love

posted October 20, 2004 12:06 AM              

i have only a poem to add, provoked by the title of this thread:

FOLLOW ME

It's by far the hardest thing I've ever done
To be so in love with you and so alone
Follow me where I go
What I do and who I know
Make it part of you to be a part of me
Follow me up and down
All the way and all around
Take my hand and say you'll follow me

It's long been on my mind
You know, it's been a long, long time
I'll try to find the way that I can make
You understand
The way I feel about you
And just how much I need you
To be there where I can talk to you
When there's no one else around

Follow me where I go
What I do and who I know
Make it part of you to be a part of me
Follow me up and down
All the way and all around
Take my hand and say you'll follow me

You see, I'd like to share my life with you
And show you things I've seen
Places that I'm going to
And places where I've been
To have you there beside me
And never be alone
And all the time that you're with me
Then we will be at home

Follow me where I go
What I do and who I know
Make it part of you to be a part of me
Follow me up and down
All the way and all around
Take my hand and say you'll follow me.

Words and Music by John Denver

posted October 20, 2004 12:17 AM              

I was curious as to whether he were here because of concerns of Lindas.

I had hoped he would know I was sincere when asking how she is.

Love,
Noreen

posted October 20, 2004 12:19 AM              

what is this "intervention" you keep speaking of for instance? is this a message from linda goodman?
perhaps its only confusing for those of us not privy to your groups activities outside this forum....

posted October 20, 2004 12:28 AM              

It was really nice of you to think about us. You must have definitely seen the energy flow here to think of us knowflakes.

Well this is going really sour now? Only way I could help now is to obey following ethics on this post:

- Not to concentrate on gross things such as Ego, Arrogance etc. Its really subtle compared to the wisdom that might flow over the days.

- No fun on poems. Those who speak the language of the soul can really understand the hidden meanings. (REMEMBER KORAN WAS WRITTEN AS A POEM, AND SO WAS RAMAYAN)

- Just be quiet and try to listen.

posted October 20, 2004 12:32 AM              

Heh Cassendra,

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Dear Magic Division

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posted October 20, 2004 12:37 AM              

This thread has made me outright laugh and stare in outright horror myself.

It's horrifing for me to see others so easily latch on to someone else. Thirsty for another to 'give' them 'the answers'. I have an open heart and mind and trust the connection I have with my Higher Self to guide and protect me at all times. And I'm sorry, but this doesnt feel right to me. Maybe magidivision made a bad first impression on me and some of the others here. I know you can see how this would be possible. And would a true Guru make the claims he/she has made?

I'm open to any knowledge he/she has to share. But so far it seems like 'Guru' is doing a good job of coming across as extremely ego centered. I dont think he/she is a bad guy. But so far I dont see/hear/feel anything 'High', or Light filled in much of these postings.

I've asked him many straight questions and gotten some 'poetic' replies. My questions were meant to get a better understanding of this "Master", not to have answers given to me, or stand in a place of judgement of him/her. So far I havent read anything earth shattering.

Why does LindaLand need an intervention? When the change must be made it will be - and not by one alone. By changing your own consciousness you affect the world's. It is not up to magidivision or anyone else on this planet to save the world or enlighten all of us. We are slowly changing one by one. We will get there or not.

By changing yourself you change the world. (I'm assuming that is her/his point. Awakening/saving us all??...)

Masters dont play guessing games. They come across clear as day to all who have ears to hear. And people dont sense Ego in their words. Only LOVE.

I dont ever 'wish to benefit from a mere glance from one such as the Master', that is not possible. I am looked upon in Love from the one True Master everyday. I dont need other's blinded eyes to look at me, thank you!

Yes, he arrived offering answers to our questions. But not everyone asked for that. I'm not judging him, I'm questioning him. He is no higher to me than a bum on the street. A true Master would appreciate that.

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What if you are wrong in your determination that this is not a "real" Master speaking? What if you are wrong? A serious question with serious consequences yes?

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In whos eyes???? What is 'right' or 'wrong'? In who's JUDGEMENT?

There is a higher consciousness connecting us all. We will not fail just by not learning things from this one Guru. Who like many before him thinks he is a savior. I have more faith than that.

Peace and Love to you.
26

posted October 20, 2004 12:58 AM              

So, well carry on, there would be some people here who are really helpless, please don't interfere in their awakening. Many may be just passers by and hit this post here. Don't deny them that. I would suggest that there be seperate post. One would be question and answers the other Acid test.

Sometimes in a class, the teacher has to teach so that the least understands.

When Jesus healed there was a person who didn't have faith. Yet he healed her.

The spiritual peoples are very different compared to others. I have experience seeing some of them. And know that we should not judge on appearance or other. They are just full of love.

posted October 20, 2004 01:17 AM              

there are those who 'know', whatever it is 'knowing' that others don't. there are those who do and don't 'see', some, unlike others, helpless and sleeping, the least understanding, as opposed to those awake and full of understanding.

count me as one of the least understanding group. i rarely catch on to the highly profound and mystical statements i often read here. i am snoozing and helpless and i surely don't know what those who know know. i am blind and stumbling.

so as the least of all, compared to the higher-ups in all this spiritual knowledge and enlightened wisdom, i beg for mercy and forgiveness and above of all kindness. please forgive my ignorance.

posted October 20, 2004 01:52 AM            

(I've been wanting to use that quote for sooo long) Saffron, you are very humble.

Meili, I agree there has been a loss of communication in this thread. I don't know if I'd call any animosity really, just people asking questions and making statements, and some poems. Now some music. I apologise if md is offended and wish he would continue answering our questions. Clarity really needs time. You can't just tell someone they are blind, and then shine a torch in there eyes and say "here's some light". We are a little more subtle.

Why is magidivision "The Master"? How many are there? Can these answers be answered in poem? I am getting the vibe here that most people are happy knowing what they know. We'd probably all like a little more knowing now and then, but that is up to us to ask when we require it (or is it?). When things like this happen (I have to say you're included Meili) I think people's first reaction is What? Then over time we may listen to the answer. To expect us to immediately understand things is a bit harsh. Especially us slow ones (eh Saffron ).

My question to the Master will be "What questions may I ask if I have none?" In order to proclaim yourself Master, have you experienced the rising of all seven chakras? Is there only one of you who has done this currently on Earth? Please be patient with us, we don't mean to be mean. We are so immersed in this world that our first impulse is to be sceptical. Meili has summed up the reactions of humans in other threads.

26taurus, I believe the point here is that your preconceived notions of what a Master or Guru is could be questioned. I don't mean offense, but do you Know the way all beings should communicate? If you are a Guru, then could you not walk around proclaiming this? Do you think you'd really care if others believed what you say? I'm thinking, if I walk around saying "I am Human!" should I expect people to believe this, or am I expecting them to understand my statement firstly, and then judge my statement on their beliefs of what I've said? My point is that all people communicate differently - who is to say the way certain levels of people should say or not, or how they say it? I disagree with you that people are jumping on any band wagon, we are merely asking who it is who is talking to us.

posted October 20, 2004 02:00 AM              

but i have sought so much.

and i'm sure, as i know i'll be told, those are simply reflections of my own feelings about the matter. so i suppose i'll just keep running on my hamster mill until i stop for awhile and try some more...go back and read some more linda goodman until my heart is soothed for awhile.

posted October 20, 2004 02:01 AM              

Meilli, I also found this thread quite laughable and horrifying at the same time... mainly for the reasons 26T mentioned above.

I thank you for your clarification. Please allow for me to respectfully disagree on the merit of this individual being a Master. I have yet to see anything that proves he/she is any such thing.

Feel free to follow others. That is your choice, as you have free will. I choose to find my knowledge from within, and respond to those who claim to have all the answers with the utmost skepticis... not cynicism, but skepticism.

IMO, a real Master is devoid of arrogance.

posted October 20, 2004 02:05 AM              

Where did I say people were jumping on bandwagons? You said, "we are merely asking who it is who is talking to us?" ....So was I......

That is what I want to know. And I thought I made that clear a few times already. I did say:

quote:

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I've asked him many straight questions and gotten some 'poetic' replies. My questions were meant to get a better understanding of this "Master", not to have answers given to me, or stand in a place of judgement of him/her.

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In another post I said:

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I would just like a clearer understanding of where you are coming from. I am sincerely interested in 'your answers'. I know you have knowledge to share. We all do. I learn things from everyone I meet. I just get turned off by the idea that someone thinks they need to lead others and that they have 'all the answers'.

Still I am greatful for your presence here and thankful for the knowledge you have come to share with us.

Peace to you friend.

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I dont take offense to what you said. Because I dont think you read all of what I wrote. It is obvious by what you just said. BTW, I never stated I was a guru. I have a Guru, Higher Power - what ever you want to call it within. We all do. I just dont think you need to go around proclaiming it to others. It doesnt make you special.

And I know 'all people communicate differently'. And I am not trying to tell anyone how to communicate. I am trying to get a better understanding of someone, just like you.

*sigh*

anyway.... to you too,
26

posted October 20, 2004 02:09 AM              

not a lot of apathy here, one way or another, is there?

posted October 20, 2004 02:17 AM              

Even Christ had to prove himself.

In all frankness, the phrase, "put up or shut up" comes to mine.

I'm not trying to be snide, but I really find this whole thing quite insulting... to my intelligence, and to my own spiritual growth. As though I don't know enough without this magi. I will make it through my spiritual journy with out this person... No question. And I will not suffer any consequences. I will have my own Gurus, Avatars, and Masters through my life. They will present themselves to me when I am ready. Not when some other Knowflake decides they've got the Master for me.

posted October 20, 2004 03:41 AM            

I cannot say, with any certainty, how a guru would approach me, as I've never met one ... or at least, have not recognized one. I sincerely do believe that "when the student is ready, the teacher will appear." I also have no problem understanding my role as a student and his/her role as a teacher. So, while I realize that there are perhaps things that I can teach to others, I do not feel at all "less" for being willing to be taught ... indeed, I try to focus more on the learning in my life than the teaching. Yes, the knowledge and the wisdom that I seek is within. Yes, I am still united with God/dess. However, I can admit without shame that I am not fully aware of my unity and knowledge and wisdom, and I still live a life with a veil over my eyes. I am a seeker, a willing student of Life itself. I am here, on this plane, in this body, in this awareness ... simply because I am not there, at the threshold of Life beyond enlightenement.
In my limited experience in this life, I have come to realize that a teacher points the way ... a guru is the Way. However, while I may choose to allow a teacher to point the way out to me, I cannot choose to follow a guru. I will follow my guru with all my heart when it is my Time.
So, even if a guru were to stand before me and proclaim to me that he/she is a guru, I would not recognize him/her until I was ready to do so.
I cannot recognize in another what I do not recognize in my self. I Know it's in me, but I do not see it clearly yet.

I honestly did not feel insulted or reprimanded by any of the replies that magidivision posted, nor did I sense passive aggressive behavior. I am not trying to negate anyone else's feelings or reactions, just stating that that is not what I sensed. I realize the replies were not aimed at me, but I do always try to read what all the folks here at LL post with a receptive mind.

I cannot comment on the idea of an intervention because I don't know the motive behind it, though, giving the benefit of the doubt, I would like to think it was out of Love.

I cannot say that the method used by magidivision has been successful ... nor can I say why it has not been successful.

As to the questions Meili asked us ... I didn't determine that this was or was not a "real" Master. I was rather distracted by the defensive responses that were given to him/her. (Please, nobody be offended by that ... I mean it in this definition of the term ... defensive - Intended to withstand or deter aggression or attack ... no connotations or implications beyond that, truly.)
It is entirely my own fault that I was distracted for nothing can distract me if it does not interest me. As far as consequences go ... If I were to have determined that this was not a "real" Master speaking and I had been wrong ... I would probably not recognize my error no matter what proof was given because I would probably not be ready to receive any messages at this time, from this source. Wasteful of me, certainly, but I can only plod along at my own pace. I do, however, realize that I have probably failed to recognize many Masters throughout my life, both within myself and without ... and yet I still have faith that I will continue to have opportunities to recognize the Way, On A Clear Day, when I am ready.

posted October 20, 2004 03:47 AM              

I would once again like to welcome you to Lindaland

I wonder is it rather forward to invite a Master to sit down for tea and a chat, a mutual exchange of words, thoughts and energy?

Thankyou for your blessings