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AcousticGod
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posted July 12, 2005 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm impressed at the silence here lately. N. Korea, London, Iran, Rove, McClellan, stem cell research, and the Supreme Court vacancy all in the news and nothing...

Interesting. No Iraq either.

Strangely, I saw Petron's name in a newspaper headline in my dream last night. I can't remember what the headline was, though.

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Saturn's Child
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posted July 12, 2005 04:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know...very subdued here lately.
But don't worry someone will post something soon and then tongues will wag
ummmm...no, I guess that would be fingers...anyhow, it's only a matter of time.

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AcousticGod
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posted July 12, 2005 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking about you the other day. I wasn't sure if you were still around.

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted July 12, 2005 05:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe not totaly silent,,, but I definatly prefer this lack of "masterdebation" going on here last few days. If we need that crap we could always turn on the "right", or "left" media stations on our boob tubes.

If not just because I was having a hard time seeing how any of thats bringing us closer to any sorta true "global Unity".

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Petron
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posted July 12, 2005 05:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heheh AG ....

i might be hauled off to a cia/illuminati torture facility soon, when jwhop and his matrix agents finally track down the secret lair i'm posting from.....look for a headline on snoozemax like....

OSAMA BIN LADENS "BEST FRIEND" LOCATED...."HATES AMERICA"...COMMITS SUICIDE BEFORE CAPTURE...

dont believe a word of it though.....and FIGHT ON WITHOUT ME!!!!

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AcousticGod
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posted July 12, 2005 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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TINK
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posted July 12, 2005 07:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Petron, despite the daf debacle, you're my favorite.

AG ~ it always quiets down in here when Big Daddy's not home. Right now it looks like he's too busy flirting in another thread. He's so bad.

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Petron
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posted July 12, 2005 08:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heheh thanx TINK!! you know, i think you're a giant amongst the Fàerîes..........


*edits out reference to daf debacle #4*

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AcousticGod
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posted July 12, 2005 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Daf?

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TINK
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posted July 12, 2005 09:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"yet to come"?!

*gulp*

AG ~ I'm at a loss to explain our dearly departed daf. God bless him. Wherever he is. He wouldn't believe it, but I really do wish the ole' shaman well.

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juniperb
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posted July 12, 2005 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
#1 #2 #3 was lightening at it`s best... #4???

Yep, God Bless the ole Seeker of the Stars

Blessings

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If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot

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TINK
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posted July 13, 2005 12:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, despite the risk of arrest, I almost feel the need to post a few old daf links for you, AG. Heady stuff, weren't they Juni? Ahhh, the old days.

Unfortunately, out of some misguided attempt at atonement, he deleted his posts. What a waste.

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Saturn's Child
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posted July 13, 2005 12:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, Daf...he deleted his posts??? What a shame....he was great...could wax on and on so eloquently! Wrote some great poetry too!

Yes, AG I'm usually around. Sometimes just listening...posting if I truly have something to say...and not if I don't.

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AcousticGod
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posted July 13, 2005 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All these big new news stories, in my opinion, have completely glossed over Bush's declining popularity and the dwindling support for the war, which were the prevalent stories prior to the London bombing and O'Connor retiring. Just an observation.

I do love seeing Rove on TV all the time. I saw Melman defending him today on CNN. I often wonder if Melman is just Rove's robot. Of course he was blasting Kerry, and denying that Republicans would act the same if the situation was reversed. I can't help but notice the conspicuously controlled messages. Strangely, it seems to me that Bush is the only one that can make a Rove-inspired message look genuine. Maybe it's that Rove and Melman just have trouble seeming genuine.

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TINK
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posted July 13, 2005 09:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a very strange connection between Rove and Bush. For fear of sounding deranged, that's all I'm going to say about that.

Saturn's Child ~ yeah he did . Decided one day, after one of those previously mentioned debacles, that he had done too much damage here and he deleted them.

(ps I still have that first poem of yours on my favorites list )

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jwhop
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posted July 13, 2005 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:59 a.m. EDT
Valerie Plame vs. Juanita Broaddrick?

Which topic should provoke more media interest?

A report that White House adviser Karl Rove told Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper that the wife of showboating Iraq war critic Joseph Wilson worked for the CIA - a revelation, by the way, that did nothing to damage her career as a desk-bound analyst, let alone endanger her life.

Or a woman who NBC spent a year trying to convince to detail her allegation that she was raped by the president of the United States.

If you're a member of the White House press corps, clearly the first story is a matter of supreme importance. The presidential rape allegation, on the other hand, is a real yawner.

At yesterday's White House press briefing, reporters peppered Press Secretary Scott McClellan with 48 questions on the Wilson-Plame case - focusing on whether Bush would now fire Rove.

The questioning turned so aggressively hostile that when McClellan asked a reporter to allow him to finish his answer, the reporter shot back: "No, you're not finishing. You're not saying anything."

When President Clinton faced the press on March 19, 1999, however, it was a different story. Only ABC newsman Sam Donaldson dared ask the question that was on everybody's mind.

"Mr. President, when Juanita Broaddrick leveled her charges against you of rape in a nationally televised interview, your attorney David Kendall issued a statement denying them. But shouldn't you speak directly on this matter and reassure the public? And if they are not true, can you tell us what your relationship with Ms. Broaddrick was, if any?"

Clinton's response:

"Well, five weeks ago today - five weeks ago today, I stood in the Rose Garden after the Senate voted [not to remove me from office] and I told you that I thought I owed it to the American people to give them 100 percent of my time and to focus on their business, and that I would leave to others to decide whether they would follow that lead.

"And that is why I have decided as soon as that vote was over that I would allow all future questions to be answered by my attorneys, and I think I made the right decision. I hope you can understand it. I think the American people do understand it and support it.

"And I think it was the right decision."

Donaldson followed up, asking Clinton, "Why not simply deny it, sir?"

The president instead invoked lawyer David Kendall's denial, explaining: "There's been a statement made by my attorney. He speaks for me, and I think he spoke quite clearly."

And with that, the entire Washington press corps simply dropped the subject, never raising Broaddrick's claim with either Clinton or his then-Senate candidate wife again.

Perhaps Mr. McClellan could begin today's press briefing reminding reporters how cowardly they were when it came to pursuing truly serious allegations of genuine criminality.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/12/90052.shtml

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Saturn's Child
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posted July 13, 2005 12:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Which topic should provoke more media interest?

Oh, definitely Clinton's d*ck!!! The Republicans will always and forever fall back on Clinton to take away from any bad press they may be getting.
Clinton had every right to defer to his atty and the press had every opportunity to persue that option.

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Saturn's Child
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posted July 13, 2005 12:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TINK, That is a wonderful compliment! Thank you very much!

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TINK
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posted July 13, 2005 12:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Daddy's back!

So you're saying that the press and public should let Bush of the hook because, once upon a time, they let Clinton off the hook? Out of a sense of fairplay? I always had a hard time with the But-mom-all-the-other-kids-do logic.

The charge of rape is a serious one. I would have deferred to my attorney as well. You might say that he was the the President and he owed his people an answer from his own lips. Generally I would agree but remembering that it was a personal charge against the man, rather than a charge against the President and his presidential duties, I think it was appropriate to defer.

A well deserved compliment, Saturn. And you're right - isn't strange how we always come back to Bill's d*ck? It's almost like it has its own gravitational pull.

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jwhop
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posted July 13, 2005 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Spock, please escort our..ummm guests to the transporter room. Set transporter beam to maximum dispersal.

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jwhop
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posted July 13, 2005 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, let's see if you can follow along logically

Clinton was accused of a felony..rape. That's good of 10-15 years in the pooky..more with the aggravated circumstances. Further, at the time of the alleged rape...alleged by the victim, Clinton was Attorney General, the highest law enforcement official in the state. Clinton never denied the allegation.

Rove, on the other hand, has committed no crime whatsoever, and is not a target of the ongoing investigation. Bush has been accused of nothing whatsoever in this investigation.

That answer your questions?

The press is hyperventilating over Rove who has not so much as been accused of anything remotely resembling a crime. But, this same press never pursued the allegations of what is a major felony under the laws of Arkansas and federal law.

Were you able to follow along...logically?

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AcousticGod
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posted July 13, 2005 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Baghdad suicide bomb kills 27, mostly children

As ties warm, U.S. pushes Libya on terror financing

Ailing U.S. Chief Justice Rehnquist hospitalized

Bush willing to consider non-judges for high court

Republicans agree to limits on Patriot Act

Vote on U.S. Social Security revamp may be delayed

Homeland Security chief revamps department

U.S. says Mideast must crack down on terror finance

Bush urged to back expanded stem cell research

House Democrats attack MTBE, Barton calls for deal

Bill Clinton plans private summit on global woes

Snow testifying on terrorism risk insurance

Afghan drug-fighting efforts failing- lawmakers

Discuss! lol

Edit: Guantanamo is back in the news as well.

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jwhop
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posted July 13, 2005 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pick your poison Acoustic! But wouldn't you really rather pursue the losers hysteria over Rove's non crime...which is a losing proposition for your leftist friends in the press, in the Congress and in leftist covens everywhere?

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AcousticGod
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posted July 13, 2005 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bush isn't pre-judging. Why are you?

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jwhop
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posted July 13, 2005 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why would Bush want to deprive the leftist press, leftist Congressmen/Congresswomen and leftist lunatics everywhere the pleasure of making absolute fools of themselves?

Further, the prosecutor has requested Rove and probably others in the Bush administration to not to make public statements until the investigation is complete.

Wait indeed for the story to fully develop. Miller isn't in jail over Rove...it's someone else. Want to bet Miller is protecting a Democrat?

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