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Sunday, Aug. 7, 2005 9:44 p.m. EDT

Fat Cat Libs to Raise $80M for Dems

About 80 wealthy liberals are promising to pony up $200,000 a year for five years to build a war chest to help Democrats reorganize and get their message across.


The $80 million they contribute will be used to finance what the Washington Post called "a network of think tanks and advocacy groups to compete with the potent conservative infrastructure built up over the past three decades."

Stung by the failure of their big-bucks giving in 2004 to help John Kerry and his party win elections, a group of 70 super-rich leftists first met last April in Scottsdale, Ariz., at a meeting set up by billionaire Marxist George Soros (George Soros Holds Secret Meeting, Makes 5-Year Plan) where they sought to create a strategy to assure that their political contributions to Democrats would be used effectively to produce positive results.

At this latest gathering, the group, reportedly now grown to about 80, decided to channel the funds they contribute through something called the "Democracy Alliance," an outfit set up at the April meeting.

According to the Washington Post, this is the latest attempt to deal with the Democrats' loss of the House and the Senate in 1994 and the White House in 2000. Today's Post reported that "many influential Democratic contributors were left angry and despairing over the party's poor showing in last year's elections, and are looking for what they hope will be more effective ways to invest their support."

While some liberal groups, such as the George Soros-backed "America Coming Together" (ACT), are floundering, with Soros cutting off his support to ACT, the Post says that the new group of contributors is seeking to help in the job of reinvigorating the left. They hope to raise a staggering $200 million.

Alliance chairman Steven Gluckstern, a retired investment banker, told the Post that President Bush's victory over Sen. John F. Kerry, D-Mass., last year after millions of dollars had been poured into pro-Democratic "527" groups caused many contributors to think that a dramatically new approach is needed.

"It wasn't only the failure to win, it was the question 'What does it take to win?' " Gluckstern said. "Among the lessons learned was that to bring back the progressive majority in this country is not just a periodic election investment strategy."

The Post explained that the Democracy Alliance will act as a financial clearing house whose staff members and board of directors will put together a lineup of groups that they believe will develop and promote ideas on the left. Each partner must agree to give $200,000 or more a year for at least five years to alliance-endorsed groups to fulfill the million-dollar obligation.

As NewsMax.com reported in April, the alliance is the brainchild of longtime Democratic strategist Rob Stein, who has long studied conservative groups with emphasis on their success in sustaining GOP politicians and achieving many of their policy goals. Simon Rosenberg, president of the New Democrat Network, is working with Stein and is a leading promoter of his effort.

Rosenberg said liberals and Democrats now face a conservative information-age Tammany Hall, a 21st century political machine, "that is simply better than what we have on our side."

"The infrastructure we have was built for a different time and mission. It was built around the congressional majority we had for 60 years in the 20th century, the labor movement and the urban-ethnic city machines," he added.

Organizers of the alliance told the Post they want to foster the growth of liberal or left-leaning institutions equipped to take on prominent think tanks on the right, including the Heritage Foundation, the Hoover Institution, the American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute, as well as such training centers as the Leadership Institute and the Young America's Foundation.

"There never has been an organized or coordinated look at connecting the dots of the progressive movement," said San Francisco businessman Mark Buell, who the Post said is with his wife, Esprit de Corps founder Susie T. Buell, a major Democratic donor. Buell, an alliance board member, said: "For 40 years, we had a voice somewhere, the White House, Congress, the Senate. For the first time, we find ourselves without a voice."

"To be effective in the 21st century in promoting your beliefs, it is necessary to have a financially secure institutional infrastructure that has the capacity to promote consistently and coherently a set of ideas, policies and messages," Stein said. "We understand that it's very hard to promote a belief system and to be operationally high performing if you don't have multi-year funding."

Soros, the Post reported, has assumed only a modest role in the Democracy Alliance.

Stein contends that there is a huge financial imbalance favoring conservatives that he puts at $295 million vs. $75 million.

In 2003, the 19 progressive organizations with budgets exceeding $1 million spent a total of $75 million, Stein told the Post, adding that in contrast, the 24 national think tanks on the right had $170 million in spending, along with state-based policy centers' $50 million and campus-based conservative policy organizations' $75 million to $100 million, according to Stein.

Liberal groups have been disproportionately dependent on one-year foundation grants for specific projects, Stein said, while the money flowing to conservative groups has often involved donors' long-term commitments with no strings attached. Stein noted that of 200 major conservative donors, about half sit on the boards of the think tanks they give to, increasing the strength of their commitment.

The group seems to have missed the message the voters have been sending: It isn't the Democrats' failure to get their Marxist message across; it's that the voters have shown they just don't want to hear it. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/8/7/215009.shtml

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Oooh Ooh Ooh! I wanna earn 15K/per month!

Where do I sign up?

When will the NewsMax brainwashing services begin?

How long until I believe all those who disagree with my beliefs are "Marxists", or are suffering from a mental disorder.

Oh... and, I love NewsMax pop-ups! That is how I tell a quality media source... the more pop-ups, the better!

(Sorry, Jwhop, I couldn't resist.)

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posted August 15, 2005 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You could probably benefit from some of that Petron. Just don't talk to women about your leftist politics. You'll know even pheromones won't work for you if they show you their tee-shirts.

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Shameful: Only 25 Nations Offer Help to the U.S.

Stewart Stogel, NewsMax.com
Friday, Sept. 2, 2005


When the Indian Ocean tsunami devastated many nations across Asia in December, the United States rushed to the aid of victims by pledging hundreds of millions of dollars in assistance – just as it has offered aid whenever a natural disaster strikes in another country.

Now the U.S. is facing a catastrophe of its own from Hurricane Katrina.

Though the U.N.'s own top official for disaster relief has called Katrina one of "the largest, most destructive natural disasters ever," shamefully only a handful of nations – at last count just 25 nations of the 191 countries in the United Nations – have come forward to offer assistance.

And almost none have offered what America has so often provided: money.

And the aid so far offered by foreign nations amounts to a drop in the bucket considering the anticipated multi-billion-dollar cost of dealing with the immediate crisis and the reconstruction to follow.

President Bush has urged Americans to send cash donations to private relief organizations rather than in-kind contributions such as clothing and food.

The same could be applied to foreign nations, most of which have been on the receiving end of massive financial assistance from then U.S. over the years.

President Bush told ABC-TV Thursday morning: "I'm not expecting much from foreign nations because we hadn't asked for it. I do expect a lot of sympathy and perhaps some will send cash dollars.

"We would love help, but we're going to take care of our own business as well, and there's no doubt in my mind we'll succeed."

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has decided that "no offer that can help alleviate the suffering of the people in the afflicted area will be refused," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said.

The American ‘Tsunami'

The offers of assistance so far pale in comparison to the aid pledged by the U.S. for tsunami relief, including $346 million from the U.S. Agency for International Development and the Defense Department for their relief efforts, $339 million for reconstruction and $168 million to help victims with food, shelter, housing and education.

In addition, a private fund-raising campaign led by former Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton brought in more than $1 billion for tsunami victims.

In fact, at least one-third of American households have donated money to an aid group in tsunami-hit nations.

Now the U.S. is trying to deal with the "American tsunami."

U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan acknowledged the extent of the disaster, saying through a spokesman: "The damage is far worse than any of us imagined at first. The American people – who have always been the most generous in responding to disasters in other parts of the world – have now themselves suffered a grievous blow."

But he went on to add: "Of course the United States is also the country in the world best prepared to cope with such a disaster."

While Annan has not spoken directly with President Bush, he did meet with America's U.N. ambassador John Bolton to convey the U.N.'s readiness to help.

While it is true that America indeed is a wealthy nation, a sentiment of help and support would be appropriate and courteous. Apparently, most nations do not believe in courtesy.

Of the nations that have offered assistance to the U.S., few have offered money. China, for example, presented $100,000 to the American Red Cross.

Russia has offered boats and aircraft. On Wednesday, Russian president Vladimir Putin offered to send a group of military special forces specializing in search and rescue to the region. That offer was rejected by the State Department.

Japan has promised tents, blankets and generators. Even France offered a fire brigade.

Germany is willing to provide communications equipment. Israel, which receives $2.2 billion in U.S. aid each year, has offered to send doctors, nurses, technicians and other experts in dealing with natural disasters, as well as field hospitals and medical kits.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, a vocal critic of the U.S., made a mocking offer to send cheap fuel and relief workers to the stricken area.

At about the same time he used the disaster as an opportunity to attack President Bush, calling him a "cowboy" who failed to manage the disaster.

Other nations that have offered some form of aid include Mexico, Canada, Jamaica, Honduras, the UK, Greece, the Netherlands, South Korea, Switzerland, Colombia, the United Arab Emirates and Australia.

"They're the most powerful, wealthiest country in the world, but when something like this strikes, the poor and the vulnerable are the same all around the world," said Australian Prime Minister John Howard.

Ingratitude

One nation not on the list is oil-rich Kuwait, which owes its very existence to America's liberation effort following Iraq's invasion.

In fact, a high-ranking Kuwaiti official has said Hurricane Katrina was sent by Allah, adding that "disaster will keep striking the unbelievers."

No matter how much foreign aid does arrive in the U.S., it's clear that America will have to shoulder almost all the financial burden in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

The size of that burden became clear when President Bush asked Congress for an initial appropriation of $10 billion. Officials say the total cost of dealing with the reconstruction will be as high as $50 billion.

Meanwhile, the U.S. could find itself with a new security nightmare.

As the Pentagon prepares to send as many as 50,000 troops to the disaster region, the White House must also find the manpower for the U.N.'s special summit, due to convene in New York on September 12.

More than 150 heads of state are expected to attend.

One topic slated for discussion is progress in relief for victims of the Indian Ocean tsunami.

Said one U.N. official: "Now we have something new to add to the agenda."

In addition to Katrina, one topic the U.N. might include on their agenda: ingratitude.

Nations That Have Offered Katrina Hurricane Aid:

Russia
Japan
Canada
France
Honduras
Germany
Venezuela
Jamaica
Australia
UK/Northern Ireland
Netherlands
Switzerland
Greece
Hungary
Colombia
Dominican Republic
El Salvador
Mexico
China
South Korea
Israel
United Arab Emirates
Taiwan
Sri Lanka
Singapore
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well i havnt seen our bro jwhop posting anything so i wanted to keep the forum interesting to all the big newsmax fans out there.....hehhee

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posted September 08, 2005 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sweet animation Petron!

Hopefully Jwhop's out helping with New Orleans even if they are Democrats.

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Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2005 2:38 p.m. EST

Poll: Bush Less Trustworthy Than Clinton

Americans trust President Bush less than they did his predecessor Bill Clinton, a new poll reveals.

In the USA Today/CNN/Gallup poll, 48 percent of respondents said they trust Bush less than Clinton, 36 percent said they trust what Bush says more than what Clinton said while president, and 15 percent said they are no different when it comes to trustworthiness.

About 52 percent of respondents said the phrase "is honest and trustworthy” does not apply to Bush.

"Character was a quality that helped get Bush elected after the Clinton scandals,” William Schneider said on CNN’s "The Situation Room.”

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"Now for the first time ever, a majority of Americans say they no longer consider President Bush honest and trustworthy.”

The poll also found that the president’s approval rating has dropped to a record low of 37 percent – compared to 39 percent a month ago – matching Clinton’s all-time low in 1993.

On Iraq, 54 percent said it was a mistake to send troops there, while 60 percent disapproved of Bush’s handling of Iraq, the economy and immigration, and 71 percent disapproved of his efforts to control federal spending.
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congratulations jwhop!!!!


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posted December 02, 2005 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Petron

Of course, I'm really taller than this picture makes me look. The President was standing on the little velvet covered stool the Secret Service carries around for him.

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Dick Morris: Clinton on Dubai Payroll

Saturday, March 4, 2006 2:02 p.m. EST

Former President Bill Clinton is up to his eyeballs in dealings with Dubai, his former top political adviser has revealed.

According to Dick Morris, author of the best-selling book, "Condi vs, Hillary," Clinton is a paid agent of the crown prince of Dubai, now involved in a firestorm over its deal to take over some of the operations at six major U.S. ports.

"Bill Clinton is a senior adviser - a paid adviser - to a company called Yucaipa which recently set up a relationship with a group called the Yucaipa Investment group to set up a new company called DIGL," Morris said on "The O'Reilly Factor."

"DIGL Inc. is in charge of managing the investments of the crown prince of Dubai throughout the world. Bill Clinton is paid by Yucaipa a percentage of the profits it makes, and Yucaipa said its profits have exceeded 40 percent in recent years.

"He is a paid agent of the crown prince of Dubai. That in addition to the roughly million dollars they gave his library, in addition to the probably $600,000 in speaking fees he got, and in addition to the scholarships for Dubai children they endowed through his library.

"I have three points about that. First, when Bill Clinton tells us this port deal is kosher, he ought to disclose that he's being paid by the government. Secondly, he should register as an agent of a foreign principal because he's giving public relations advice to a foreign company. And thirdly, his wife should disclose how much Clinton is being paid and when he's been paid, because it goes into a joint bank account and this is in effect a payment to the husband of a senator.

"And then I would raise another question: Didn't Hillary jump out of the box opposing this port deal because she knew of her husband's vulnerability and wanted to get out ahead of the story? I was talking to a source of mine who's very close to the Clintons about seven or eight months ago and the source said that he's all the time going back and forth to Dubai and getting deeper and deeper into that relationship. She (Hillary) was worried about that and its political impact," Morris said.

Morris also had harsh words for President Bush, whom he charged "messed up the Dubai port deal.

"He let the opposition discover it. (Sen.) Chuck Schumner broke the story and Bush didn't frame it the way he needed to," Morris said, explaining that he thinks the president simply doesn't care anymore.

"I'm getting the impression that he's basically telling (adviser Karl) Rove and the folks, 'Look, I got re-elected, there's not more that I can do to control this. If you want me to go out here for three or four days I will, but I'm not doing it every day, I'm not pounding the pavement like I did for re-election, and I'm taking the long view.'"

Morris, one of the nation's top political gurus said that Bush needs to do what Clinton did all through his second term - and even every single day - maintain control of public opinion.

Morris warned that a president who drops below 50 percent approval rating for a sustained period of time is in deep trouble. "It's like a no-confidence vote in a parliamentary system - you might as well be out of office."

Bush, he said, "has now dropped to a point where Republicans are turning on him, the public is turning on him and all he's got is a portion of the Republican base. And it is going to get worse - he's going to get schlonged in the election of '06, he'll probably have at least one if not two houses (of Congress) controlled by Democrats launching investigations, etc. This is not a pretty picture. He has lost control over public opinion and he has only his own laziness to blame."

Morris said that "if the president doesn't understand that if a president loses control of public opinion he loses control of the job." He likened losing control to having your immune system suppressed - you're susceptible to opportunistic infections, like your vice president shoots somebody while hunting, or the Dubai ports thing. That's all a function of decreased popularity."
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He likened losing control to having your immune system suppressed - you're susceptible to opportunistic infections, like your vice president shoots somebody while hunting...

*aaachooooo!*


(ouch...that gunshot was a mighty painful symptom i 'spose....)


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Oh My, hehe, everyday uncovers more. ...

The U.S. is looking mighty greedy and stupid..
I'm moving back on April Fool's Day, lol

Sending everyOne lots of Love
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posted March 05, 2006 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who would have thought it? Petron becomes a poster for NewsMax

Well, it is a good story but doesn't break any new ground on Commander Corruption, now does it? We've always known Clinton was for sale and eager for to rake in the dough...whether it was from Tyson Foods with the bribe paid through Hillary or from the communist Chinese government who funded his campaigns from Arkansas to the White House. And Commander Corruption does deliver the goods too. Tyson got their waiver from Clinton to pollute the Arkansas waterways and the communist Chinese got what they paid for too...nuclear and missile technology delivered through Loral and Hughes. Everyone's happy...except for the residents of Los Angeles who the communist Chinese have threatened with a nuclear missile attack...with the restricted nuclear and missile technology Commander Corruption handed over.

But, it's really Hillary who has the conflict of interest, isn't it? Here's Hillary feeding off that Dubai money while running all over town bad mouthing the source of the funds

Since you liked that NewsMax story so much, I'm going to put up another you should like equally as well.

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Sunday, March 5, 2006 12:08 p.m. EST
Ralph Peters: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth


Reports that Iraq has descended into a civil war are not only not true - they're being promulgated by anti-war journalists eager to see U.S. efforts to establish a stable democracy in the country fail.

So says military analyst Ralph Peters, who just spent a week touring Baghdad with the 506th Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division.

"I'm looking for the civil war that The New York Times declared. And I just can't find it," Peters declared in his New York Post column on Sunday.

Instead, he reports: "I saw children and teenagers in a Shia slum jumping up and down and cheering our troops as they drove by."

"Cheering our troops," he repeated.
Everywhere the 506th traveled, he said, the reception was warm. "No violence. None. Iraqis went out of their way to tell us we were welcome."

Instead, said Peters, the bombing of the Golden Mosque in Samarra - the alleged catalyst for the so-called civil war - has "caused popular support for the U.S. presence to spike upward."

"In place of the civil war that elements in our media declared, I saw full streets, open shops, traffic jams, donkey carts, Muslim holiday flags - and children everywhere, waving as our Humvees passed," he recalled.

"Even the clouds of dust we stirred up didn't deter them. And the presence of children in the streets is the best possible indicator of a low threat level."

So why is the U.S. press full of reports that Iraq is spinning into chaos?
Says Peters: Many journalists who pretend to be out on the streets of Baghdad getting the story are instead hiding out in their hotel rooms and getting their news from Iraqi stringers.

"And the Iraqi stringers have cracked the code," he explained. "The Americans (*so called journalists) don't pay for good news. So they exaggerate the bad."
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well, isn't that the extreme opposite, but it doesn't seem to ring true..too pretty a picture..although I'm sure there are some places/areas..that life is as usual..what can you do, hide inside all the time..life goes on..

and it all goes back to ego..those journalist think they look better..when things are really bad, they appear so brave..hehe

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Did you ever see that South Park episode..where China is trying to beat the South Park kids to Heaven..it's too funny..China's Heaven is all staged..lol

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The Chinese Army Spy and Condoleezza Rice

Charles R. Smith
Wednesday, Jan. 24, 2001

Condoleezza Rice, national security adviser to President Bush, has recently granted an interview to virtually every reporter but me. Perhaps it is because I keep asking her questions about the Chinese spy in her past.

Rice has impeccable credentials. She worked for the elder George Bush in the White House, handling Russian issues. She is a distinguished fellow at the Hoover Institution and former provost of Stanford University. Rice is very close to former Clinton Secretary of Defense William Perry. Rice worked with Perry and the Clinton administration during her term at Stanford. The Clinton White House once mentioned her as being on the short list for secretary of state.

Yet it is her years at Stanford working with Perry that have rendered Rice silent. While working at Stanford, she became involved in the most successful Chinese army penetration of the Clinton Defense Department. She will not answer questions about her relationship with Chinese spy Hua Di.

Hua Di was born into a family of prominent Communist officials. He studied missiles in Russia and worked for the Chinese army missile program for 24 years. In 1984, he went to work for the China International Trust and Investment Co. (CITIC), a firm then part-owned by the Chinese army.

Hua defected to the United States in 1989 after the Tiananmen Square crackdown on student democracy demonstrators. He went to work as a researcher at Stanford's Center for International Security and Arms Control. There he met Rice and the Stanford Center co-directors, former Secretary of Defense William Perry and political science professor John Lewis.

In 1994, Hua used his contacts at Stanford, in Beijing and inside the Clinton Defense Department with then-Secretary Perry to obtain a secure fiber-optic communication system for the Chinese army. In 1994, Hua contacted an old friend in the Chinese army then working for Gen. Ding Henggao, a close friend of Perry.

In fact, Perry and Ding's relationship spans three administrations. Perry reportedly met Gen. Ding in the late 1970s during the Carter administration. By 1994, Perry ran the U.S. Defense Department, and Ding had risen to command the Chinese army military research bureau COSTIND, or the Commission on Science Technology and Industry for National Defense. COSTIND, according to the General Accounting Office, "oversees development of China's weapon systems and is responsible for identifying and acquiring telecommunications technology applicable for military use."

Hua Di teamed in 1994 with Stanford Dr. John Lewis, Secretary of Defense Perry, and Gen. Ding of the Chinese Army to buy an advanced AT&T fiber-optic communications system for "civilian" use inside China. The communications system slipped past U.S. exports laws as a joint U.S.-Chinese commercial venture called Hua Mei. The Chinese part of the venture was run by a newly formed firm named Galaxy New Technology.

Hua Di described himself as the "matchmaker" between the Chinese Army and Lewis during an interview for the Far Eastern Economic Review. Hua arranged for Gen. Ding's wife, Madam Nie Li, to head the joint project as the Chinese co-chairman.

Stanford's Lewis, himself a board member of the project, located Adlai Stevenson III, the former Democrat senator from Illinois, to lead the American side. According to the Far Eastern Economic Review, Lewis had Defense Secretary Perry write a personal letter on his behalf to U.S. government officials, favoring the export to China.

With Perry's blessing, Hua Di and Lewis contracted AT&T to ship the secure communication systems directly to a Chinese Army unit using Galaxy New Technology as a front. AT&T officials who sold most of the equipment and software were adamant that there was no need to check the Chinese firm since the "civilian" Madam Nie Lie led it.

Yet, the so-called "civilian" firm was actually packed with Chinese army officers and experts. Madam Nie Lie was not only the wife of Gen. Ding Henggao; she was actually Lt. Gen. Nie Lie of the Chinese Army.

Another member of New Galaxy Technology, according to a Defense Department document, was Director and President "Mr. Deng Changru." Deng is also known as Lt. Col. Deng Changru of the People's Liberation Army, head of the PLA communications corps. Still another Chinese army officer on the Galaxy New Technology staff was Co-General Manager "Mr. Xie Zhichao," better known in military circles as Lt. Col. Xie Zhichao, director of the Chinese Army Electronics Design Bureau.

In fact, the evidence shows that Lewis worked not only for Stanford and the Chinese army during this time period. Documents obtained from the Department of Defense using the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) show that he also worked for the U.S. Defense Department.

In August 1994, Lewis and Secretary of Defense Perry traveled to Beijing to meet with Gen. Ding Henggao. According to the official list of attendees, Lewis accompanied Perry as his "personal" consultant. Lewis, then a paid consultant of the U.S. Defense Department, met in Beijing with Ding, who was also then Lewis's partner inside a joint U.S. Chinese "commercial venture" for military communications systems.

In 1997, Stanford professor Lewis was charged with using university funding and equipment to set up the deal with Galaxy New Technology. Stanford Provost Condoleeza Rice announced that Lewis faced an investigation because he had used iniversity stationery and his office to run the joint U.S-Chinese business. In the 1997 investigation, Rice issued a statement to the university press.

"We'll follow what is a normal process under these circumstances," said Rice in the 1997 interview. "Similar issues arise quite frequently. It's not all that unusual that issues arise concerning conflict of interest."

Yet, no formal charges were filed, and Rice quietly dropped the investigation against Lewis and Hua Di. To this day, Ms. Rice will not answer why she stopped the investigation.

The General Accounting Office also documented the New Galaxy Technology scandal (GAO report GAO/NSIAD-97-5). According to the GAO, the scandal involved the "transfer of broadband telecommunications equipment to Hua Mei, a joint venture between SCM Brooks Telecommunications, a U.S. limited partnership, and Galaxy New Technology, a Chinese company primarily owned by an agency of the Chinese military."

In 1997, Rep. Henry Hyde pressed Attorney General Janet Reno to investigate the Galaxy New Technology scandal in a letter outlining his concerns. According to Hyde, "in 1994, sophisticated telecommunications technology was transferred to a U.S.-Chinese joint venture called HUA MEI, in which the Chinese partner is an entity controlled by the Chinese military. This particular transfer included fiber-optic communications equipment, which is used for high-speed, secure communications over long distances. Also included in the package was advanced encryption software."

By the end of 1997 the scandal was drawing too much heat for Hua Di to remain in the United States. In an article curiously released in October 1998, the New York Times announced that Hua Di had returned to China in December 1997.

According to the New York Times, Hua met with Chinese security officials in late 1997 and was assured that he would not be prosecuted. On Dec. 31, 1997, he returned to China. On Jan. 6, 1998, he was arrested and charged with passing state secrets to U.S. officials. In 1999, according to the official Chinese news service, Chinese defector and missile scientist Hua Di was sentenced in a people's court to 15 years for passing state secrets to the United States.

The end of this story is not very pretty. Stanford officials, including Rice and Lewis, have openly appealed to the Chinese government for Hua's release. Rice also continues to defend Hua.

Rice stated in a New York Times interview that Lewis "provided evidence to the fact that the source materials for publications written by him and Mr. Hua were provided by approved Chinese authorities or already were available through the Stanford University library."

Yet, Rice will not talk about Hua Di and the Galaxy New Technology deal. There was more than profit for Hua and the Chinese Army company packed with electronics experts. The secure fiber optic communication system delivered by Hua to his People's Liberation Army general buddies was modified in 1998 and now serves as a secure air-defense system exported to Iraq.

The current Iraqi air defense network, NATO code-named "Tiger Song," is made of U.S. and French fiber optic parts modified and re-exported by the People's Liberation Army. Tiger Song is based on the original secure AT&T system obtained by Hua Di in 1994. Iraqi missiles guided by Tiger Song have repeatedly attacked U.S. fighter jets.

According to an August 2000 Washington Times interview, Rice asserted, "China is not a threat."

Tiger Song is considered a lethal threat to American and allied armed forces. Such sweet irony that we now face our own weapons and they are not a threat.

Still, all seems to be well between Beijing and Bush. Condoleeza Rice is national security adviser to the president, and the Chinese Army again has a "matchmaker" inside the White House. Just don't ask her about Chinese army spy Hua Di.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/1/23/203153.shtml

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very interesting..thanks!

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I'm very familiar with Charles R. Smith...and his scribblings. I think we need to break out the indictment pad and start writing.

Rice was at Stanford, Perry was at Stanford, Lewis was at Stanford and Hau Di was at Stanford...and all at the same time. Conspiracy time if I ever saw it.

Ummm, but wait up, it was Perry who wrote that letter urging release of the equipment, Perry who was Sec Defense, Perry who would know if it had any military application...or was in position to find out by doing nothing more than picking up the phone and calling someone in the Pentagon And it was Clinton's Sec Defense who seems to have driven the deal.

Haha, Smith makes an allegation about the Rice/Hau Di relationship but omits to tell us what that relationship was....lovers, fellow spies, book club members?

Smith finally goes over the edge by accusing Rice of failing to make a charge in the investigation Hehe, the Provost isn't a prosecutor, isn't in any way law enforcement. The Provost is the chief academic and budget officer and the liaison between administration and the academic community at the university.

But even if Rice had somehow had the authority to make any charges, Hau Di was not within the jurisdiction of the university...or within the jurisdiction of the United States. Hau Di was in a Chinese prison cell for espionage...not against the United States but against China

So, perhaps the Chinese got sold a bill of goods. A system that didn't work. Perhaps Hau Di was an American spy and Rice, Perry and Lewis set up a sting to sell China something they desperately wanted but which didn't work.

Did it work? Well, Smith makes the point it was sold to Saddam and was used repeatedly to fire Iraqi missiles at American aircraft over Iraq. Since no American jets were shot down by Iraqi missiles, I would have to conclude it didn't work. On the other hand, lighting those jets up with the radar and locking on to American jets got a lot of those missile installations promptly blown to hell. Let's hope it's China's front line missile defense system against American military aircraft.

Thanks for the laugh Petron, it's been a long day.

John Etchemendy is Stanford's twelfth Provost. As the chief academic and chief budgetary officer of the University, the Provost is responsible for administering the academic program, including both instruction and research, and for the coordination of the administrative and support functions of the University with its academic purposes

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thanks..very interesting also..this world is a mess..

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Clinton and China Armed Iraq

Charles R. Smith
Thursday, Jan. 30, 2003

In 1991 U.S. intelligence forces detected a shipment of French-made printers bound for Iraq. The printers were to be used by computers that ran the French-made Kari air defense network sold to dictator Saddam Hussein during the late 1980s.

Unknown to the Iraqis, U.S. cyber-warriors acquired access to the printers as they were being trans-shipped through Jordan. It was here that the first seeds of information warfare began.

American intelligence agents substituted a U.S.-made chip inside the computer printers. The little chip gave allied forces an unfair advantage later in the skies of Iraq.

The special chip did not contain any virus codes or destructive programs. All it could do was squeak.

The special chip was designed to give off a high-frequency radio signal whenever the printer was in use. Each time the Iraqis used their new printers, the chip would squeak. The signal gave allied warplanes the exact position of the computer in the Iraqi air defense system.

Each time the Iraqis would power up a new defense center, the telltale squeak would give away its position, and the allied aircraft would strike.

The squeaky chip was a great idea but not entirely foolproof. One night U.S. war fighters detected a squeak from a previously unused Iraqi bunker in downtown Baghdad. The F-117s quickly struck the site with two laser-guided bombs.

The next day, the allies were horrified to discover that the Iraqi bunker had actually been full of civilians hiding from the bombing raids. Apparently, one of the civilians had decided to power up a computer printer during the night, a move that would later prove to be fatal.

Tiger Song

The next battle between Iraq and allied armed forces will not be so easy. Iraq has updated its Kari air defense network with a Chinese-made fiber-optic system code-named "Tiger Song."

The Tiger Song system is best described as an Internet for surface-to-air missiles. Previous generations of air defense systems had to directly link radar sites to missile batteries.

The classic pattern of Soviet-style air defense missile sites took the form of a six-pointed star. Each point of the star contained one missile launcher, and the radar itself was located at the center along with the command control unit.

Today, using the Tiger Song fiber optic communications system, Iraqi air defense missile sites are spread out, mobile and difficult to detect. Missile launchers, radars and command centers can be placed anywhere as long as they can hook up to the fiber-optic network. Radars, computers, and missiles now share the whole picture carried live over the Tiger Song network.

Allied war fighters have already had a difficult time with Tiger Song. The system allows radars that were previously associated with a specific missile or gun system to trade information. Radar sites for anti-aircraft guns that could not reach high-flying allied planes can now pass target information to large missile launchers, which can reach altitudes over 80,000 feet.

In addition, the Chinese network allows Iraqi missile batteries to move quickly. The network has many hidden prepared positions, ready to be hooked up to a waiting radar, command center or missile launcher. The units are then able to move from position to position, hooking up to the network when necessary.

Clinton Exports to Chinese Army

The ultimate irony is that the Tiger Song system is made from U.S.-manufactured parts and equipment exported to China during the Clinton administration. In 1994, Chinese Gen. Ding Henggao obtained the advanced fiber-optic system through his contacts inside the Clinton administration.

According to documents obtained using the Freedom of Information Act, Ding was a close friend of Clinton Secretary of Defense William Perry. In 1994, Ding had risen to command the Chinese army's military research bureau "COSTIND," or the Commission on Science Technology and Industry for National Defense.

COSTIND, according to the General Accounting Office, "oversees development of China's weapon systems and is responsible for identifying and acquiring telecommunications technology applicable for military use."

Stanford professor John Lewis, a close friend and a paid Defense Department consultant to Perry, was the key board member of the project. In 1994 John Lewis teamed with Gen. Ding to buy an advanced AT&T fiber-optic communications system for "civilian" use inside China.

Defense Department officials initially objected to the proposed sale and would not allow the export to take place. According to the Far Eastern Economic Review, Lewis had his friend Secretary Perry write a letter on his behalf to U.S. government officials, favoring the fiber-optic export to China.

The communications system slipped past U.S. exports laws as a joint U.S.-Chinese commercial venture called "Hua Mei." The Chinese part of the venture was run by a newly formed firm named "Galaxy New Technology."

Democrats and Chinese Generals

Dr. Lewis located Adlai Stevenson III, the former Democrat senator from Illinois, to lead the American side of the joint venture. Gen. Ding's wife, Madam Nie Li, headed the joint project as the Chinese co-chairman.

Lewis then contracted AT&T to ship the secure communication system directly to a Chinese army unit using Galaxy New Technology as a front. AT&T officials who sold most of the equipment and software were adamant that there was no need to check the Chinese firm because a "civilian," Madam Nie Lie, ran the company.

The export took place through Ron Brown's Commerce Department, using a special license waiver that had never been issued before and has never been issued since.

However, the so-called civilian firm Hua Mei was actually packed with Chinese army officers and experts. Madam Nie Lie was not only the wife of Gen. Ding Henggao; Madam Nie was actually Lt. Gen. Nie Lie of the Chinese army.

Another so-called civilian member of New Galaxy Technology, according to a Defense Department document, was Director and President "Mr. Deng Changru." Deng was actually Lt. Col. Deng Changru of the People's Liberation Army, head of the Chinese communications corps.

Still another Chinese army officer on the Galaxy New Technology staff was Co-General Manager "Mr. Xie Zhichao," better known in military circles as Lt. Col. Xie Zhichao, director of the Chinese army's Electronics Design Bureau.

In August 1994, Dr. Lewis and Secretary of Defense Perry traveled to Beijing to meet with Gen. Ding. According to the official list of attendees, Lewis accompanied Perry as his paid "personal" consultant. Thus, Lewis, Perry and Ding met together as the deal for the fiber-optic system was being executed.

Paid by Chinese Army and U.S. Defense Department

In fact, Lewis drew three paychecks for the deal. The documents show that Lewis worked for Stanford University, the Chinese army and for the U.S. Defense Department as Perry's consultant, all at the same time. Neither Perry nor Lewis deny the allegations that they assisted the Chinese army.

In 1994, the Chinese spymaster Gen. Ding personally penetrated the U.S. Defense Department at the highest levels, using his contacts with Secretary Perry to obtain a secure fiber-optic network.

The Clinton Department of Justice, led by the inept Attorney General Janet Reno, refused to investigate the Hua Mei deal despite repeated protests from Congress and the Defense Department.

Instead, the General Accounting Office (GAO) wrote a scathing report noting the military links of the Hua Mei deal and of the failures of the Clinton administration.

"The equipment was exported to Hua Mei without Commerce review, even though the company was partially controlled by several high-level members of the Chinese military," states the GAO report.

In addition, the GAO clearly noted the military value of the Hua Mei deal included, "sharing of intelligence, imagery and video between several locations, command and control of military operations using video-conferencing, and medical support and telemedicine between the battlefield and remote hospitals."

"When used in a military application, both types of equipment requires encryption devices to protect communications from interception," stated the GAO report.

Thanks, Clinton

Thanks to Bill Clinton and his Defense Secretary William Perry, the Chinese army's Electronics Design Bureau modified the American fiber-optic communication system, changing it into the Tiger Song secure air-defense system. The Chinese army then exported the newly modified system to Iraq.

Today, Tiger Song stands ready to kill U.S. pilots.

Thank you, Bill Clinton and William Perry, for your services to the Chinese People's Liberation Army and to the Iraqi armed forces that now protect Saddam Hussein.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/1/30/171355.shtml


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