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goatgirl
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posted December 12, 2005 07:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a ********* piece of paper'

By DOUG THOMPSON
Dec 9, 2005, 07:53

Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act.

Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal.

GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

“I don’t give a ******* ,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”

“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”

“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a ********* piece of paper!”

I’ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution “a ********* piece of paper.”

And, to the Bush Administration, the Constitution of the United States is little more than toilet paper stained from all the **** that this group of power-mad despots have dumped on the freedoms that “********* piece of paper” used to guarantee.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, while still White House counsel, wrote that the “Constitution is an outdated document.”

Put aside, for a moment, political affiliation or personal beliefs. It doesn’t matter if you are a Democrat, Republican or Independent. It doesn’t matter if you support the invasion or Iraq or not. Despite our differences, the Constitution has stood for two centuries as the defining document of our government, the final source to determine – in the end – if something is legal or right.

Every federal official – including the President – who takes an oath of office swears to “uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says he cringes when someone calls the Constitution a “living document.”

“"Oh, how I hate the phrase we have—a 'living document,’” Scalia says. “We now have a Constitution that means whatever we want it to mean. The Constitution is not a living organism, for Pete's sake.”

As a judge, Scalia says, “I don't have to prove that the Constitution is perfect; I just have to prove that it's better than anything else.”

President Bush has proposed seven amendments to the Constitution over the last five years [ 7!!!], including a controversial amendment to define marriage as a “union between a man and woman.” Members of Congress have proposed some 11,000 amendments over the last decade, ranging from repeal of the right to bear arms to a Constitutional ban on abortion.

Scalia says the danger of tinkering with the Constitution comes from a loss of rights.

“We can take away rights just as we can grant new ones,” Scalia warns. “Don't think that it's a one-way street.”

And don’t buy the White House hype that the USA Patriot Act is a necessary tool to fight terrorism. It is a dangerous law that infringes on the rights of every American citizen and, as one brave aide told President Bush, something that undermines the Constitution of the United States.[that very same document that guarantees the very same FREEDOM Bush is always lying about "protecting"

But why should Bush care? After all, the Constitution is just “a ********* piece of paper.”


© Copyright 2005 by Capitol Hill Blue
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml

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Well as long as we have that straight.

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posted December 12, 2005 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The asterisks are replacing, "goddamned." (Just for clarification.)

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posted December 12, 2005 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And then Bush's faithful followers call us anti-American!

SHEEEESH!

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goatgirl
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posted December 12, 2005 07:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's things like him saying ********* that make me know he's not just yapping his mouth about being such a GOOD christian. YOu can really tell he's tight with his GOD you know? It's the way he follows the commands in his sacred book given by his GOD, that help me to understand how sincere, and committed he is to his religion.

Hypocracy at it's best! Remember fellow Americans Do what George W. Bush says not what he does!

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posted December 12, 2005 07:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh My Ggodness!

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posted December 12, 2005 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always questioned who or what exactly has Bush been worshiping in the first place anyway!

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posted December 12, 2005 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe it's the porcelain Gods that you find people sitting on in the bathrooms!

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Petron
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posted December 12, 2005 09:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

"thass rite, the constutooshun aint nuthin but a GODDAMM piece a' paper!!.....this here is what amerukuh is all abowt!!!"

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goatgirl
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posted December 12, 2005 09:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The most frustrating part is that this sad sad little being who just wants Daddy to finally be proud of him, is just the front man for whoever is pushing the agenda.

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lotusheartone
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posted December 12, 2005 10:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are so Funny Petron

thing is he's holding a one dollar bill
with the two sided seal
the pyramid, and the eagle
it's right there

and he doesn't even see it

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It’s About A Lot More Than A "********* Piece of Paper"
Bush Remark Reiterates Arrogant Globalist/Neocon "Crazies" Insane Lust For New World Order Prevalence And Power

Steve Watson | December 12 2005

“Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act,” writes Doug Thompson for Capitol Hill Blue. “GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.” Thompson reports the following exchange:

“I don’t give a ******* ,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”

“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”

“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a ********* piece of paper!”

“I’ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution ‘a ********* piece of paper.’” Thompson comments

This is just the latest remark in a long history of arrogant Neocon speak to highlight the fact that they have no respect for America or its population. The fact that Bush's remarks were so off the cuff yet viciously delivered reminds us of how and why the Neoconservative clan, who were just getting a foothold during the first year of the Regan administration, through their actions and incessant saber-rattling garnered the nickname 'the crazies' by more moderate policy makers under the first Bush presidency. Colin Powell, an establishment underling through and through, would go one further, calling them "******* crazies" during the buildup to the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

For the President of the United States to verbally wipe the floor with the Constitution and curse it in the way Bush has and it go virtually unreported serves as an indication of the threat America is facing today from an Elite power structure that cares nothing for the country it has usurped and is hell bent on centralizing power globally and undermining the principles America was founded on.

The US is a Constitutional Republic, yet to Bush's handlers, the globalist Neocons, that is not part of the agenda. In an entirely Orwellian fashion they have attempted to change the meaning of "Democracy" and adopt it as a form of governance to fit their agenda. The word democracy originates from three Greek words meaning "the people", "to rule," and the suffix ía; the term therefore means "rule by the people" by which is meant rule by the majority.

The framers of the U.S. Constitution were notably cognizant of what they perceived as a danger of majority rule in oppressing freedom of the individual or "Tyranny of the majority". For example, James Madison, in Federalist Paper No. 10 advocates a republic over a democracy precisely to protect the individual from the majority. However, at the same time, the framers carefully created democratic institutions and major open society reforms within the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. They kept what they believed were the best elements of democracy, but mitigated by a balance of power and a layered federal structure.

So the word "democracy" refers solely to direct democracy, whilst a representative democracy where representatives of the people govern in accordance with a constitution is a Republic.

The Neocons have adopted the word Democracy and attached their world view to it. This as we have previously exposed is a Straussian world view - after Leo Strauss, who arrived in the US in 1938 and taught at several major universities before his death in 1973.

Strauss was a German Jewish political philosopher whose views were elitist, amoral and hostile to representative democratic government. Strauss, as revealed in a major New Yorker article by legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh, believed the world to be a place where "isolated liberal democracies live in constant danger from hostile elements abroad", and where policy advisers may have to deceive their own publics and even their rulers in order to "protect" their countries.

Shadia Drury, author of 1999's Leo Strauss and the American Right, commented that Hersh was correct on the second point but wrong on the first, insisting that "Strauss was neither a liberal nor a democrat." She goes on to comment that "Perpetual deception of the citizens by those in power is critical because they need to be led, and they need strong rulers to tell them what's good for them."


Like Plato, Strauss taught that within societies, "some are fit to lead, and others to be led", according to Drury. But, unlike Plato, who believed that leaders had to be people with such high moral standards that they could resist the temptations of power, Strauss thought that "those who are fit to rule are those who realize there is no morality and that there is only one natural right, the right of the superior to rule over the inferior".

We have previously exposed how many major players in the Bush Administration and leading Neoconservative think tanks are followers of Strauss. Former Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, Weekly Standard chief editor William Kristol, His father Irving, and Gary Schmitt, founder, chairman and director of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). Also on the books of PNAC, prior to the 2000 election were Dick Cheney, Jeb Bush and Donald Rumsfeld as well as former defense Policy Board chairman Richard Perle. Other luminaries included Jon Bolton, now Ambassador to the UN and Scooter Libby, soon to be in Prison.

Also present was the darling of many Western academic institutions Francis Fukuyama who's "End of History" antics had gained him loving praise from the Straussian Neocons and got him into the State Department. Fukuyama says that we have reached “the end point of mankind’s ideological evolution" and believes in "the universalization of western liberal democracy as the final form of human government." This is perfect for the Neocon Globalists because it means they can justify "protecting" this "perfect" end point of mankind's evolution and it's global spread at ANY cost. Fukuyama was a staple of my International Relations MA 2 years ago and is so now in institutions all over the Western world.


The PNAC way of thinking has been implemented almost to the book since 9/11. Their flagship document, Rebuilding America's Defenses noted that in order to go ahead with their strategy their would have to be some kind of pivotal event that would unite the American people behind the Government. This was referred to as "a new Pearl Harbor" and came to pass on September 11 2001.

Leo Strauss was also a strong believer in the "Realism" form of International Relations made prominent by Thomas Hobbes. Like Hobbes, he thought that human nature was intrinsically aggressive and could be restrained only through a State formed via a powerful military industrial complex . "Because mankind is intrinsically wicked, he has to be governed," he once wrote. "Such governance can only be established, however, when men are united - and they can only be united against other people."

"Strauss thinks that a political order can be stable only if it is united by an external threat," Drury wrote in her book. "Following Machiavelli, he maintains that if no external threat exists, then one has to be manufactured. This is what Henry Kissinger was referring to in that often quoted statement he made about creating external future threats in order to guard the world order he wishes to see become more prevalent and powerful, the system we often refer to as the "New World Order". Thus for the Neocons, when the Soviet Empire weakened and a Unipolar world order was emerging, a new threat had to be there lurking to allow them to further their Straussian vision.

"In Strauss' view, you have to fight all the time [to survive]," said Drury. "In that respect, it's very Spartan. Peace leads to decadence. Perpetual war, not perpetual peace, is what Straussians believe in." Such views naturally lead to an "aggressive, belligerent foreign policy", she added.

The BBC earlier this year aired a series of documentaries that went some way to explaining the rise of the Neocon movement out of Straussian Philosophy. It was entitled the Power of Nightmares and concluded that the War On Terror is a complete fraud and Al Qaeda is a largely manufactured threat as part of the agenda to scare people into accepting the Neocon vision of the New World Order. You can watch all three parts by clicking here

This is how "crazy" the Neoconservative view is. It is a deeply pessimistic world view and they are constantly trying to make it a reality. They actually really believe that life on this planet is simply about death, destruction and gaining total Global Power over any other way of existence. In the early years of the Regan Administration, before the term Neocon was even coined these people were emerging. Witness Regan Pentagon adviser and former State Department and National Security Council man Michael Ledeen, who is quoted as saying : "Americans believe that peace is normal, but that's not true. Life isn't like that. Peace is abnormal."

In an influential essay in the National Review Online he asserts, "Creative destruction is our middle name. We do it automatically ... it is time once again to export the democratic revolution."

All you have to do to predict where things are headed next is read the documents and policy reports that they put out. You don't even have to read into them if you don't want to. For example Michael Ledeen's last book was entitled Time to Focus on Iran -- The Mother of Modern Terrorism.

These people are indeed "******* crazy". They can see no other future for this planet than continual total complete and unequivocal war and destruction in the name of "security" for their own twisted beliefs and way of existence. The remarkable thing is that they think they are the good guys and everyone else is evil.

"We're going to get criticized for being an imperial power anyway, so you might as well make sure that the good guys win." - Bill Kristol.

Now whether there are two warring factions of the New World Order in the 21st Century is something to be considered. Many believe that the Anglo-American Neocon Globalist vision differs from the older European vision for a new world order which is one of more incremental steps and an evolving globe of Nations under the control of a world government. This is sometimes referred to rather loosely in many cases as Neo-Liberalism.

In any case both visions are thinking beyond America or even sovereign state systems. They simply have to work within state systems to begin with because that is the way the world has evolved. Both visions overlap in various places and yes they do have their spats, but the overlords, the higher uppers, the Global Mafia as it were, the elite bankers and the policy foundations, those who finance the power structures, do so with ultimately the same goal in mind, they simply sometimes argue over how to get it done.

This becomes even more evident when you research deeper into the roots of Neoconservatives like Irving Kristol and James Burnham who were both strong admirers of Leon Trotsky. The Internationalist movement under Trotsky is often thought to be at the opposite end of the political scale to Neoconservativism, but when you expose the left/right political scale as a falsity, a cover for a higher elite level of globalism, the walls come crumbling down.

The Trotsky / Neocon links are further exposed in a 2003 National Post article entitled Trotsky's ghost wandering the White House. There is no doubt that the links exist, and furthermore they highlight the false left right paradigm by showing that so called Trotskyites can just as easily switch to Neoconservativism should the moment in world politics be right. They will use whichever end of the scale they believe is more likely to help them advance their quest for power.

As quoted in the afore mentioned article, Researcher Christopher Phelps rightly points out, that the circuitous route from Trotsky to Bush is "more a matter of rupture and abandonment of the left than continuity."

Of course, the rise of the Neocon cabal and the trashing of the constitution has not come without overarching help along the way from a gigantic propaganda machine. There has arisen a faction of media Neocons who are now also knowingly or unknowingly following the Straussian philosophical vision.

The Murdoch empire is a nice little Goebbels factory that attempts to churn out the same rhetoric as the Neocons until the general public actually believe it to be reality. Fox "News" is not actually news, it is Opinion on the world. This New York Times Article hits the nail on the head when writer Ron Suskind relates an encounter he had with a senior Bush aide in 2004:

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality - judiciously, as you will - we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

Creating false realities that fit the power structure's preconceived agenda is completely Straussian. The bad news for us is it's also completely Orwellian. In Nineteen Eighty Four George Orwell warned us of where this would lead if we allowed it to happen - and we know it's not pretty.

As Bush has been told (and has repeated) "You Have To Keep Repeating Things To Catapult The Propaganda" In other words, if you throw enough BS, some of it is going to stick, and that's what Mr Murdooch's job is.

Of course there are also the Murdoch underlings and wannabe's who are the useful Neocon mouthpieces. Limbaugh, Hannity and O'reilly like to tell people to shut up and accept that torture is no big deal and war based on lies is acceptable if it is for the good of America.

Bill Kristol gets to go on Fox and tell us what's really going on everyday, whilst Ann Coulter likes to call For North Korea To Be "Nuked For Fun,".

And then you have Clear Channel who own the voting machines and put up giant Billboards telling us that George W Bush is "OUR LEADER".

But after all, what's the big deal about Bush trashing the Constitution? Fox News didn't report it, that means it didn't happen, doesn't it?

Besides, I thought that if you defend the Constitution, you were now considered a terrorist? That's what this FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force brochure says anyway. http://www.welfarestate.com/pamphlet/Defenders of the US Constitution and the common law from which it grew are being classified on the same level as Nazis and the KKK.

Therefore George Bush was right to say “It’s just a ********* piece of paper!”, otherwise he's a terrorist.
http://infowars.net/articles/december2005/121205neocons.htm

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posted December 13, 2005 03:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About that constitution again, Mr. bush...what did you say about it?

That's what I thought you said...

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Mystic Gemini
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posted December 13, 2005 03:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That evil reptillian illuminati is going to destroy the world. That is his goal.

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lotusheartone
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Our Founding Fathers
were astrologers
freemasons
intune with the mysteries
not completely
13 13 13
they should have
fixed the calendar
I guess
it wasn't TIME

A blank piece of paper
NOT
the eagles does hold 13 arrows
revealing secret's
with the pyramid

any leader, should be a
Master with God
otherwise
demise... ...

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Mystic Gemini
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posted December 13, 2005 05:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotus. The pyramid's and secrets. I have heard about the Alien Pharaoh.

Didn't they say the russian military found it?


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lotusheartone
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posted December 13, 2005 05:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
huh! hehe

maybe that's what's floating circular over by the
TOP DOG Pluto
an itch
Ra ram U
to your fleece your clan be true
BABE

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lotusheartone
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posted December 13, 2005 05:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ah, Mystic Gemini
now you got me back ot my alien
dream
and Stargate the movie, not the crappy TV series

and you know, how many civilizations
could possibly be in super huge space ships
looking for a new home, because
they blew up there's like we are doing

Is that why the space program gets so much money, and why China, is so gung-ho
they think there gonna get out of here
before something happens?

what if?

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posted December 13, 2005 06:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have that movie. My grandma has it LOL. I let her borrow it 2 weeks ago.

I didn't like the tv show but actually watched it once. The episode wasn't bad at all.

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lotusheartone
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posted December 13, 2005 06:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't seen it since it came out
long time ago
get's you thinking

there gonna show up in their
super duper big spaceship
and say
hey, I'm here
I'm God
worship me

Oh Boy!, then the real GOD
will be very angry

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posted December 13, 2005 07:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
did he really say that?

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posted December 14, 2005 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That pic of Bush waving the greenbacks around is really telling. imho, THERE is that man's god. After all,
quote:
To create more jobs in America, America must be the best place in the world to do business. To create jobs, my plan will encourage investment and expansion by restraining federal spending.....
Quote from the 2004 Republican National Convention. And the President and his Republican Congress HAVE done a wonderful job of restraining spending, have they not?? (**sound of puking**)

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posted December 14, 2005 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That and outsourcing all the rest of the jobs from the US to China and India Azalaksh!

America, what a great place to do business in!

SHEESH!

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quote:
did he really say that?

Unfortunately, Yes. The problem is you won't hear about it in the American news.


It's sad to know that our country is full of lies.


The other day they were showing something about christmas at the white house. My mom said who gives a f*** about christmas at the white house. Couldn't agree more.


They can report that yet keep things like this from us.


Damn corrupt red necks.

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posted December 14, 2005 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/12/11/223331.shtml

Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:08:45 -0800 (PST)
From: "jwhop" <jwhop>
Subject: GD piece of paper
To: editor@calnews.com

Well, now that you've picked up where the fat headed moron, Thompson left off...and virtually accused the President of demeaning and dismissing the Constitution as just a piece of paper; where is YOUR damned proof any such conversation ever took place?

Has it become your duty to chime in on and spread the allegations of bone headed morons of the moonbat club.

If you have the proof, where the hell is it? Who was in that meeting? What are the names of the Republican leaders who were there? Who was the aide to Bush who cautioned him?

If you have no proof, then in my opinion, you're a hell of a sorry @sshole .

If you have the proof, then post it...and the names of those present who can verify the conversation ever took place.

If not, then how about sitting your fat ass down and shutting the hell up? Right after you tender an apology to both the President and your readers.

Life is good, isn't it? For scandal mongers who don't have to report what is actually true, it's good enough to print if it only "could" be true.

Let me know if you need a list of things that "could" be true and I'll fill up your in-box.

Jwhop
Madeira Beach, Florida

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