posted March 14, 2006 06:56 PM            

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Do you believe only Pat Robertson's Ministries speak of the true Gospel?

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posted March 14, 2006 07:01 PM              

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Come on.. you can't defend the organization that you touted as being "Christian" because in actuality they are communist and don't believe in Christ, so you decide to go off on a tangent and start attacking main-stream Christianity?

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posted March 14, 2006 07:08 PM            

My mother is a big Pat Robertson fan. She is a conservative, right-wing Lutheran that opens her doors for anyone that needs help. Pat Robertson runs the 700 Club program which is very main-stream conservative.

Far right would be more of the intolerant species of religions (I am not far right but I do defent their right to have that type of religion- just as I am for the left).

A Christian is one that believes in CHRIST as a Savior. If you do not believe in Christ you are NOT a Christian.

The WCC does not believe in Christ as the Son of God (Savior) yet they profess to be "Christians". They are not accepted as Christians by Christians...

That would be like someone pretending to be Muslim but who does not believe in the core values / beliefs espoused by Islam.

Do you understand it now?

I am not a Right-wing Christian. I am a Republican that is Christian (Lutheran - Missouri Synod) but I am also American Indian. I share core beliefs with both entities as that is my background.

posted March 14, 2006 07:15 PM              

But....

The WCC says:

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The goal of the World Council of Churches is not to build a global "super-church", nor to standardize styles of worship, but rather to deepen the fellowship of Christian churches and communities so they may see in one another authentic expressions of the "one holy, catholic and apostolic church". This becomes the basis for joining in a common confession of the apostolic faith, cooperating in mission and human service endeavours and, where possible, sharing in the sacraments. All these acts of fellowship bear testimony to the foundational declaration of the WCC that the Lord Jesus Christ is "God and Saviour according to the Scriptures".

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posted March 14, 2006 07:24 PM            

But to have an article posted purporting to cast the National Council of Churches and the World Council of Churches as "christian" is so far over the top it cannot go unchallenged.

posted March 14, 2006 07:26 PM            

So now people who are professed Christians, aren't Christians? How much more absurd a statement can you make? That's just plain ridiculous.

And some Christians being judged by other Christians as not being Christian... well that sounds downright Christian to me, but aside from that who's to say that the Christians who denounce the WCC are any better Christians than those in the WCC?

posted March 14, 2006 07:30 PM              

this is all very stupid..no wonder I took a nap today, and I don't usually ever do that!

posted March 14, 2006 07:49 PM            

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Well the WCC is a huge organization, so I have a hard time believing all the churches and people that are affiliated with them are lying about being Christian and are actually Communists. I dont think you'll convince many people of that logic either.

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No one said, nor does it follow that all the people who worship in those churches know what the WCC and the NCC are doing with their donations. Don't know they are funding revolutionary communists attempting to overthrow governments, democratic or otherwise. It also doesn't even mean they know of the affiliations of the parent groups and there are some who probably don't even know their churches are members of the WCC or the NCC. They just go to worship. Members of most churches couldn't name most of the people at the top of their denominations and don't care because they interact with their pastors.

Nor does it follow that even the pastors of those churches know about the radicals at the top of the organizations. But with each exposure some find out and quit, either the church or the church quits the denomination or the NCC.

There will be some more fallout when the members read what the delegates had to say at the WCC meeting because they are mostly not radicals, nor would most of them appreciate a political action activist organization hiding behind the cover of their religion.

The proof of that is in the plummeting membership in some of the affiliated denominations...when they found out or find out.

posted March 14, 2006 11:01 PM              

In fact, this one's earned a spot on my list of Top Ten All Time Favorite LL Threads

Christians apologizing for a war they didn't start, the World Council of Churches posing as a communist front, Christians who don't believe in Christ and Pat Robertson as a middle of the road conservative...

posted March 14, 2006 11:02 PM              

Pid said to you...

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I should also add paras.. had I taken your side, you can bet Rainbow would have blasted you

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Ohmigod...that is soooo funneee....

When do you see me "blasting" people here????

Paras...that is Pid's MO....case in point...

posted March 15, 2006 02:34 AM              

wanted to pop in and say roflmao first off.

DD and AG just wanted to say i am reading and nodding but too lazy to type. so yes there are other ppl out there who agree with yall

persistent folks you ppl are, wow look at the turn this thread has taken lol. DD what is ur sun/moon/asc?

posted March 15, 2006 05:48 AM              

And whether you consider it to be ‘America bashing’ or whether others consider it to be valid criticism is simply a matter of perspective.

Your offer to look into the affairs of Britain and the EU will I’m sure be gratefully received and we will all of course bow to your superior knowledge in these matters: i.e. Communism detection and control

You see jwhop, as I’ve told you before, we in Britain have received so much criticism (constructive and otherwise) over the centuries that we’ve been around, that we’ve learnt not to get so over emotional and sensitive about it. We’re very much used to it. We don’t see it as ‘Britain bashing’ – we see it as someone voicing their opinion which they have a perfect right to. Even Abu Hamza the (or Captain Hook as he was nicknamed over here) had ample opportunity to state his opinions before it was decided that he went too far when he started inciting violence against people.

You may have heard of Speakers corner in London, where every Sunday, people are encouraged to stand on their soapbox and express their opinions on anything (and I mean anything) publicly. The crowd can choose to walk past and ignore, to heckle or to cheer and applaud whatever the speaker says. You may like to pay it a visit when you’re peering through your pince-nez at us, and have a stint on the soapbox yourself. Tell us where we’re going wrong. We’ll listen, and we’ll take everything you have to say on board. Of course be prepared to be heckled, because we’re also known for our irreverent sense of humour but if you don’t get too upset we’ll call you a ‘good sport’ and tell you your entitled to your opinion – we may even agree with you, such is the nature of the British! Of course we’ll still make stupid mistakes, just like many other countries but then nobody’s perfect

posted March 15, 2006 08:49 AM              

Independent..

why be way tp the left
why be way to the right

wouldn't in the middle be just right

posted March 15, 2006 09:57 AM              

It's inconceivable!