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DayDreamer
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posted March 13, 2006 09:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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U.S. Christian Leaders Apologise For Iraq War
Ximena Diego

NEW YORK, Feb 24 (IPS) - Christian leaders from the United States lamented the war in Iraq and apologised for their government's current foreign policy during the 9th Assembly of the World Council of Churches in Porto Alegre, Brazil, which ended Thursday.

"We lament with special anguish the war in Iraq, launched in deception and violating global norms of justice and human rights," the Very Rev. Leonid Kishkovsky, the moderator of the U.S. Conference for the WCC, told fellow delegates from around the world.

Kishkovsky is the rector of Our Lady of Kazan Church in Sea Cliff, New York, and is an officer in the Orthodox Church of America.

Taking an unusual stand among U.S. Christian leaders, the United States Conference for the World Council of Churches (WCC) criticised Pres. George W. Bush's actions in response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

"We are citizens of a nation that has done much in these years to endanger the human family and to abuse the creation," says the statement endorsed by the most prominent Protestant Christian churches on the Council.

"Our leaders turned a deaf ear to the voices of church leaders throughout our nation and the world, entering into imperial projects that seek to dominate and control for the sake of our own national interests. Nations have been demonised and God has been enlisted in national agendas that are nothing short of idolatrous."

The message, written like a prayer of repentance and backed by the 34 Christian churches that belong to the WCC, mourns those who have died or been injured in the Iraq war and says, "We confess that we have failed to raise a prophetic voice loud enough and persistent enough to deter our leaders from this path of preemptive war."

Among the attendees was the Rev. Bernice Powell-Jackson, North American President of the World Council of Churches. A civil rights activist for more than 25 years, Jackson previously served as executive director of one of the Justice and Witness Ministries predecessor bodies, the Commission for Racial Justice.

The U.S. Conference of the WCC also criticised the government's position on global warming. "The rivers, oceans, lakes, rainforests, and wetlands that sustain us, even the air we breathe continue to be violated... Yet our own country refuses to acknowledge its complicity and rejects multilateral agreements aimed at reversing disastrous trends," reads the message.

Earlier this month, a group of more than 85 U.S. evangelical Christian leaders called on Congress to enact legislation that would reduce emissions of greenhouse gases, which most scientists believe contribute to global warming.

The U.S. Conference of the WCC message also said, "Starvation, the HIV/AIDS pandemic, the treatable diseases that go untreated indict us, revealing the grim features of global economic injustice we have too often failed to acknowledge or confront."

"Hurricane Katrina," it continues, "revealed to the world those left behind in our own nation by the rupture of our social contract. As a nation we have refused to confront the racism that infects our policies around the world."

The statement comes days after the National Council of Churches (NCC), the United States chapter of the WCC, endorsed a U.N. report on the situation of detainees at the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba.

Separately, in a letter addressed to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, NCC General Secretary Robert W. Edgar called on the U.S. to bring the detainees to trial, release them, or to "close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility without further delay". It also asked Rice for access to the Guantanamo facility "to monitor the physical, spiritual and mental conditions of the detainees".

At the Brazilian conference, the Rev. John Thomas, president of United Church of Christ, was quoted as saying: "An emerging theme in conversation with our partners around the world is that the U.S. is being perceived as a dangerous nation."

He called the Assembly "a unique opportunity to make this statement to all our colleagues" in the ecumenical movement. The statement says, "We come to you seeking to be partners in the search for unity and justice."

Thomas acknowledged that not all church members would agree with the thrust of the statement, but said it was their responsibility as leaders to "speak a prophetic and pastoral word as we believe God is offering it to us".

The final WCC event featured a candlelit march for peace through downtown Porto Alegre with up to 2,000 people -- including two Nobel Prize-winners -- taking part.

Organised by local churches as part of the World Council of Churches' Decade to Overcome Violence, it was accompanied by Latin American music from Xico Esvael and Victor Heredia. Young people carried banners highlighting peace and justice issues. One, depicting the world held in God's hand, read "Let God change you first, then you will transform the world."

WCC president Powell-Jackson urged the crowd to commit themselves to overcoming violence. Prawate Khid-arn of the Christian Conference of Asia told them, "If we do not take the risk of peace, we will have to take the risk of war."

Israel Batista of the Latin American Council of Churches spoke of poverty, injustice and abuse of women and children and asked, "How are we to speak of peace?" Still, he said, "In spite of violence, we will persist in the struggle for peace."

After an address by Julia Qusibert, a Bolivian indigenous Christian, the marchers sang the Samba of the Struggle for Peace and the Taizé chant Ubi Caritas, among other songs. The march paused while Nobel prize-winner Adolfo Pérez Esquivel improvised a poem and addressed the crowd at the Esquina Democrática or Democratic Corner.

The evening was brought to a climax with an address by the second Nobel Prize-winner, Archbishop Desmond Tutu. He began his impassioned speech by saying, "We have an extraordinary God. God is a mighty God, but this God needs you. When someone is hungry, bread doesn't come down from heaven. When God wants to feed the hungry, you and I must feed the hungry. And now God wants peace in the world."

The WCC is the largest Christian ecumenical organisation, comprised of 340 Christian denominations and churches in 120 countries, and said to represent 550 million Christians throughout the world. The U.S. Conference of the World Council of Churches alone represents 34 Christian churches, including Orthodox, Evangelical, Lutheran and Anglican churches, and four million members throughout the country.

The Roman Catholic Church is not a member of the WCC but has worked closely with the Council in the past. Since its origins in 1948, the WCC gathers in an Assembly every seven years with each member church sending a delegate. (END/2006)

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=32288

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lotusheartone
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posted March 13, 2006 10:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh great..like we didn't see this one coming..

religion vs. government

this will lead to Hell on Earth!

Sorry..this is just crazy

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DayDreamer
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posted March 13, 2006 10:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you mean lotus?

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lotusheartone
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posted March 13, 2006 10:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just more separatism..

blame the government
turn to your church for salvation

guess what? church
is your body temple
God is within

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DayDreamer
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posted March 13, 2006 10:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I'm Muslim and I actually agree with what these Christian leaders are saying. To me they are actually speaking from the heart and from the God Source.

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lotusheartone
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posted March 13, 2006 10:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it was pleasing to read..

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DayDreamer
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posted March 13, 2006 10:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think the US government is following the God Source?

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lotusheartone
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posted March 13, 2006 10:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think they are?

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DayDreamer
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posted March 13, 2006 10:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know...I'm asking for your opinion.

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lotusheartone
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posted March 13, 2006 10:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I meant the Christian leaders

and the answer for both is yes and no. ...

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posted March 13, 2006 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I've seen the blather from the non mainsteam so called christian groups who are part of the radical left movement against the war...not only against the war but against the United States too.

In case you aren't aware, any group can call itself a church, get a 501C tax exempt status for tax purposes and pursue any twisted form of religion they wish...or even nothing backed up by any religious teachings...except their own.

Now imagine these so called christian churches organizing boycotts against companies who do business with Israel and divesting their stock portfolios and mutual fund holdings of those companies.

They are no more christian than you are. They are leftist political hacks hiding behind a so called religious organization.

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DayDreamer
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posted March 13, 2006 10:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
and the answer for both is yes and no. ...

Sorry, I'm confused...what are your answers for?

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DayDreamer
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posted March 13, 2006 10:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
In case you aren't aware, any group can call itself a church, get a 501C tax exempt status for tax purposes and pursue any twisted form of religion they wish...or even nothing backed up by any religious teachings...except their own.

I agree any group can call itself a church. Only those who follow your so called Right are legitimate churches though, right?

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lotusheartone
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posted March 13, 2006 10:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the U.S. Government for and with God 50%
without God 50%

Christain Leaders with and For God 50%
without God 50%

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DayDreamer
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posted March 13, 2006 10:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How did you come up with those figures? And what constitutes the 50% with and 50% without God in both the US government and among the Christian leaders?

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lotusheartone
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posted March 13, 2006 10:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's all very simple

God's Universal Laws

and no one seems to get it..

HELP!

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DayDreamer
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posted March 13, 2006 10:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one seems to get the universal laws? How can you make such a blanket statement. Are you saying you don't get them either?

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lotusheartone
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posted March 13, 2006 10:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand them. ...

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DayDreamer
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posted March 13, 2006 10:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then what did you mean by that statement...that no one gets the Universal Laws? Do you think I don't get them?

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lotusheartone
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posted March 13, 2006 10:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't say that, you did!

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DayDreamer
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posted March 13, 2006 10:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No I never made a statement, I asked a question. You didnt say I dont understand the Universal Laws, but is that what you are implying?

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lotusheartone
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posted March 13, 2006 10:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the Confusion you are creating is quite amusing..

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DayDreamer
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posted March 13, 2006 10:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry if I seem to be confusing you lotus. I just have a straight forward question I'd like for you to answer.

Do you believe that I don't understand the Universal Laws?

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lotusheartone
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posted March 13, 2006 10:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you have not gone within to the God source to find Truth

the answer is NO

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DayDreamer
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posted March 13, 2006 10:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for sharing your opinion. That makes things much more clearer to me. Do you mind if I ask you another question...Do you believe people who start wars are following God's Universal Law?

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